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Shanghai Dumpling House

TripleAxel Jul 26, 2013 11:18 AM

Has anyone dined at the Shanghai Dumping House in San Gabriel? It's taken over the spot where Country Steakhouse used to be in the Hilton Plaza catty corner from Focus Plaza? Is it worth a visit?

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  1. TonyC RE: TripleAxel Jul 26, 2013 11:31 AM

    Reference: http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/9096...

    Great for soup whores. Dank pork filling, self proclaimed Nan xiang style (it's in the Chinese signage, though surely they're unrelated) with semi-droopy, thin skin. I haven't tried anything else there, as far as xiao long bao goes on Valley Blvd, this is it in terms of terms of parking/service/speed/accessibility, etc. It is eons better that other xiao long bao house 5 stores to the right, though SN1's XLB may overall be the "tastier" package.

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    1. re: TonyC
      Porthos RE: TonyC Jul 26, 2013 02:09 PM

      Whoa whoa whoa! Does that mean you've now set foot in SN1?

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        ipsedixit RE: Porthos Jul 26, 2013 07:06 PM

        TC has been to SN1. Quite a while ago.

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          Porthos RE: ipsedixit Jul 26, 2013 07:14 PM

          I think there was a thread where he specifically said he refused to set foot in there...

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            ipsedixit RE: Porthos Jul 26, 2013 07:20 PM

            Which was, I believe, after he had visited.

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              Porthos RE: ipsedixit Jul 26, 2013 08:17 PM

              Sept 28, 2012. TonyC asks how the pan fried buns at SN1 are "because I'm simply not giving SN1 any $"


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                TonyC RE: Porthos Jul 29, 2013 10:18 AM

                Still haven't, but thanks for keeping my ass in check. I'll have to remember not to ever fight for the bill at SN1.

                Things never heard at Chinese restaurants: "No, No, you pay, I insist. Blame it on this guy Porthos on Chowhound".

                1. re: TonyC
                  TripleAxel RE: TonyC Jul 29, 2013 12:45 PM

                  Funny thing... I thought the XLBs and the Pan Fried Pork Buns were the best things on their menus, when you can get them, but then again, that was over a year ago...

                  1. re: TonyC
                    Porthos RE: TonyC Jul 29, 2013 12:52 PM

                    Just don't pull so hard in check tug a war...

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                      Servorg RE: Porthos Jul 29, 2013 01:19 PM

                      If you play the game seriously, and strategically, you simply get up from the table at some point after the meal is over, find the waiter or manager, pay the tab and go back to the table. No more Indian (or Chinese) wrestling matches.

                      1. re: Servorg
                        linus RE: Servorg Jul 30, 2013 07:54 AM

                        better, give the waiter/manager a credit card before you sit down.

                        of course, i went to a gathering once where a half dozen people pulled this gambit...

                        1. re: linus
                          Servorg RE: linus Jul 30, 2013 08:01 AM

                          I kneecap all those credit card using, air mile earning poseurs by giving the manager enough cash to settle the bill and add a 20% tip (returning any left overs to me). When he thinks about the amount that the credit card company "siphons" off of the top he always defaults to the green solution I've presented him with.

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                            Porthos RE: Servorg Jul 31, 2013 12:11 PM

                            Nice. Ciao Bob and I would like to invite you to a king crab dinner at Elite one of these nights ;-)

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                              Servorg RE: Porthos Jul 31, 2013 12:18 PM

                              Better bring your credit card that night...something tells me you're going to be needing it.

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                              linus RE: Servorg Jul 31, 2013 02:56 PM

                              what i like to do is secretly buy the restaurant beforehand.
                              when the bill comes, i ostentatiously tear it up and fire the waiter who brought it.

                          2. re: Servorg
                            Mr Taster RE: Servorg Jul 31, 2013 12:57 PM

                            The people who argue at the table ARE playing the game seriously. The wrestling match is the "mianzi" or "giving face" element that is ineffably ingrained in Chinese culture.

                            You can apply American efficiency and cunning, but it's sort of missing the point of the thing.

                            Mr Taster

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                              Servorg RE: Mr Taster Jul 31, 2013 01:07 PM

                              I figure a lesson in American culture is always worth applying from the "acculturation" standpoint.

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                                ipsedixit RE: Mr Taster Jul 31, 2013 06:59 PM

                                No shit. It absolutely is not a game.

                                Internecine battles have erupted over this "game" ... and more than one divorce can be traced to lost 面子 over the dinner tab.

                                1. re: ipsedixit
                                  Servorg RE: ipsedixit Jul 31, 2013 07:24 PM

                                  “The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting.”

                                  1. re: Servorg
                                    ipsedixit RE: Servorg Jul 31, 2013 07:25 PM

                                    It's not war.

                                    Much more important. It's 面子.

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                                      Servorg RE: ipsedixit Aug 1, 2013 05:36 AM

                                      I do know that my wife's parents were glad to leave behind the strictures that defined so much of the cultural norms in their birth countries (Korea and Japan) when they came to the US to pursue higher education in the early '50s. Neither one misses any of that and talk about the negative aspects of it at times.

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                                    raytamsgv RE: ipsedixit Aug 1, 2013 02:48 PM

                                    I've seen physical altercations erupt--mainly pushing, shoving, and grabbing. Those older Chinese people can sure put up a good fight when it comes to getting the check.

                                    1. re: raytamsgv
                                      ipsedixit RE: raytamsgv Aug 1, 2013 06:29 PM

                                      Family name and honor are at stake.

                                      You do not want to disrespect your elders and previous generations, nor do you want your children to live a life of shame.

                                      1. re: ipsedixit
                                        TripleAxel RE: ipsedixit Aug 5, 2013 07:28 AM

                                        "Saving Face." I don't think I've ever heard it used so much in American culture until AFTER the Western cultures learned about it from "Joy Luck Club" both novel and movie... now I hear news journalists on my local TV stations use that term...

                                        1. re: TripleAxel
                                          Servorg RE: TripleAxel Aug 5, 2013 07:34 AM

                                          Just such a zero-sum "game" (I know...I know it's NOT a game) that can ruin lives evidently. This falls into the general category of religion for me in which you are excluded from the inner circle, (in the typical attempt by religions to control others) if your actions and words don't happen to exactly match the dogma being propounded. A lot of (as those of my generation like to say) hogwash and malarkey.

                                        2. re: ipsedixit
                                          JThur01 RE: ipsedixit Aug 5, 2013 12:03 PM

                                          I witnessed a classic check duel at, of all places, Happy Noodle. Son-in-law vs. father-in-law. What began with credit cards rapidly being moved from bottom back to top repeatedly escalated into moves that looked like wrestling along with some shoving. I looked over at the women folk, who rolled their eyes. Soon, FIL and SIL broke out laughing while in mid-headlock. This one was very Looney Tunes-ish and all good in the end.

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                                            JAB RE: JThur01 Aug 5, 2013 12:43 PM

                                            Do you know who's Kung Fu prevailed?

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                                              JThur01 RE: JAB Aug 5, 2013 02:32 PM

                                              Ah, I neglected to mention, father-in-law prevailed. He good naturedly congratulated son-in-law on the effort. All smiles.

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                                                JAB RE: JThur01 Aug 5, 2013 06:15 PM

                                                Nice, as it should be.

                2. Servorg RE: TripleAxel Jul 26, 2013 11:34 AM


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                  1. re: Servorg
                    TripleAxel RE: Servorg Jul 28, 2013 06:13 PM

                    Are they owned by the same people?


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                      Servorg RE: TripleAxel Jul 28, 2013 06:18 PM

                      Maybe not? Someone may have shanghaied the name or one is the "dumplingganger" of the other? Now we're going to need a "Shanghai Dumpling House" taste off. Will the work never end for the hard toiling hounds in the SGV?

                      1. re: TripleAxel
                        Chandavkl RE: TripleAxel Jul 28, 2013 10:25 PM

                        Monrovia location closed a couple of weeks before San Gabriel opened, presumably so they could move all of the stuff over.

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                          Servorg RE: Chandavkl Jul 29, 2013 06:13 AM

                          Chow comparison called off!

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                            TripleAxel RE: Chandavkl Jul 29, 2013 07:31 AM

                            And they took over the Country Steakhouse location, right? Did they just go out of business?

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                              Chandavkl RE: TripleAxel Jul 29, 2013 08:41 AM

                              Yes, that's the correct location. Haven't been by there lately.

                              1. re: TripleAxel
                                JThur01 RE: TripleAxel Jul 29, 2013 09:36 AM

                                I stumbled across Cowboy's Steakhouse closing and Shanghai Dumpling House replacing it and posted it to this thread last December (2012):


                                SDH has a fairly small and basic menu, befitting a dumpling house, but if TonyC says they have good XLB, that's good enough for me.

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