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Heading back to Original Farmer's Market for first time in years...wtf do I buy?

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I haven't been back to the OFM since my taste buds matured - to put it in perspective, the last time I was there I still loved to eat at Cheesecake Factory.

I've only been to the meat market + gumbo joint. What else is good around there these days, esp. to take home? Donuts?

I'll be hitting up Short Order.

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  1. Little john's English toffee is the best.

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    1. re: wienermobile

      I don't like toffee. Will lil john change my mind?

      1. re: ns1

        It just might. I find Littlejohn's toffee far superior to any other I've had.

          1. re: Steve Green

            okay, Littlejohn's toffee did in fact change my mind. Bought 1/4 pound on Friday, killed it so fast we came back to buy another pound on Saturday. Already ate half of that box too.

            1. re: ns1

              now that's what i'm talking about.

              1. re: kevin

                no seriously, this stuff is SO FREAKING GOOD

                 
                1. re: ns1

                  Excuse me that this has nothing to do with Farmer's Market, but this time of year, I substitute LJ's toffee with the peppermint bark from William's Sonoma. a slab of dark chocolate, covered with a slab of white chocolate, covered with big chunks of peppermint candies...amazing!

                   
          2. re: ns1

            One thing about little john's is that the interplay of rich butter to sugar to the crushed nuts makes it extremely delicious and not terribly and saccharinely sweet.

            it's pretty darn good stuff, and that's no joke.

            1. re: kevin

              Little John's has the best toffee. Ask them for a sample.

              1. re: paprkutr

                Went to Little John's and got the toffee. It is a great as you guys said! Just got a half pound and each of us got a nice sample before we bought it. Also tried the fudge, but it wasn't up to the toffee.

        1. Have your taste buds really matured...

          Is what your eating now better then that bite you experienced at the Cheesecake Factory? Key word is experienced.

          Don't be a douche and succumb to the Foodie Lemming factor nothing is good unless you say it is good.

          If you look for approval for your eating pleasure then there is no hope for you.

          Sure take note of the good places offered here as a start but don't put yourself down because you liked Cheesecake Factory. Stand up for your taste buds and be happy.

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          1. Bob's Donuts are always great, even if they don't make you feel very good. The chocolate-frosted raised and the honey-wheat (btw, any '80s hounds remember when they were called "honey whole-wheat"?)

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            1. re: MoreMolecules

              Bob's buttermilk cake and buttermilk crumb are insanely good. They look like they're going to be dry as hell, and then you bite into them and they're so moist and flavorful. The perfect coffee dunking donut.

              Also, the laksa at Singapore banana leaf is good. And although it's fucking overpriced, the chicken kebab plate with tabbouleh and baba ghanoush (or mouhamara) at Moishe's is insanely tasty. (it had better be for $14)

              Magee's corned beef and cabbage is very good too.

              Avoid the French crepe place and Monsieur Marcel's at all costs.

              Mr Taster

              1. re: Mr Taster

                I did enjoy the chocolate mousse at Monseiur Marcel's though.

                1. re: Mr Taster

                  Day 1: Tried the buttermilk (plain) as well as the apple fritter. Buttermilk was super bland and lacked any texture whatsoever, dipping it in shakerato didn't help. Maybe it needs straight coffee to dunk into? Apple fritter wasn't better, tasted burnt.

                  Day 2: Tried the crumb donut this time, and while it was better it was also nothing to write home about. Not better than my local donut place, and not a revelation like The Donut Man

                    1. re: ns1

                      is a shakerato anything like a sharknado?

                      1. re: linus

                        4 shots espresso/milk/honey.

                      2. re: ns1

                        I'm totally confused. You're replying to my comment re Bob's, then proceed to say how much you didn't like Bob's, and then you say Bob's was a revelation. Unless you mean that in a negative way, I don't understand at all what you're trying to communicate.

                        Mr Taster

                        1. re: Mr Taster

                          Got confused on the names - bobs at farmers market was weak. The donut man in Glendora was a revelation.

                          1. re: ns1

                            you were comparing the same item at both places right ? rather than say, comparing a bob's crumb donut to a peach donut from the donut man in glendora in season, right ?

                            1. re: kevin

                              I'm comparing Bob's crumb donut to the one I can get at my local donut shop.

                              fresh fruit donuts from donut man are a different league entirely.

                              1. re: ns1

                                Wow. Not even sure how to respond. It's like we're existing in different donut universes.

                                Bob's buttermilk crumb is one of my favorite things to get at the Farmer's Market. I sometimes bring a dozen to work, and after my coworkers initial disappointment after a lifetime of conditioning of seeing 101 colors when they open a box of doughnuts, after one bite they last about 45 seconds.

                                What's your local donut shop? I'm ready to do a taste-off.

                                Mr Taster

                                1. re: Mr Taster

                                  my fiance actually questioned your chow cred. I had to save it with "but this is the guy that opened our eyes to Feng Mao Mutton Kebab"...

                                  1. re: ns1

                                    "but this is the guy that"

                                    :)

                                    1. re: ns1

                                      ns1, I really want to understand specifically what you prefer about your local donut shop's crumb (is it straight up cake, or buttermilk?). I'm absolutely ready to do a side-by-side comparison.

                                      I have no idea what a "shakerato" is, but I'm sure they're not from the era that these donuts are from. Bob's buttermilk are the kind of old fashioned donuts that got lost in time decades ago, waylaid in the public consciousness with those terrible Entenmann's boxed donuts (which I grew up choking down, as they were a fixture on my family table in the 70s and 80s) and later by the super light, raised Krispy Kreme variety (which would obviously disintegrate in hot coffee). Bob's is the kind of donut that my grandparents would have eaten 80 years ago. There's a comforting element about them in that they're simple and unadorned, but sturdy, and can be ever so slightly crispy on the outside edges (I don't understand your "lack of texture" claim at all), and overall are very well made. They're the quintessential coffee-dunking donut-- dense but moist. Contrast with an Entenmann's dense and dry donuts, which *require* a dunk in order to be comfortably swallowed. Over time, this kind of donut has lightened up considerably-- maybe that's where our expectations diverge. Modern cake (non-risen) donuts have become like little fried vanilla cakes. Which is fine, but it's not what I'm looking for in a real honest-to-goodness old fashioned coffee-dunking donut.

                                      Mr Taster

                                      1. re: Mr Taster

                                        Shakeratos are four shots of espresso, ice, and honey, shaken not stirred. An iced espresso drink that bob's definitely does not serve.

                                        it's doled out at Short Cakes in the farmer's market by your favorite purveyors, the slivertons.

                                        1. re: kevin

                                          So wait, ns1 dunks a Bob's buttermilk donut in ICED coffee, and his fiancee is questioning MY Chowhound cred...?! ;-)

                                          I keed, I keed.

                                          Mr Taster

                                          1. re: Mr Taster

                                            oh, shit, maybe i noted too much information.

                                            i don't really want to start another online war.

                                            as a late, wise man once said:

                                            Can't we all just, ummm, uuummm, ummm... get along ?

                                          2. re: kevin

                                            Nice article on not only the shakerato, but a dessert inspired by it as well: http://laist.com/2012/06/01/creme_car...

                                            1. re: kevin

                                              There's also milk in there.

                                            2. re: Mr Taster

                                              The buttermilk donuts were moist but did not have the textural you speak of - they were not slightly crispy on the outside edges. Maybe it's cuz it was 3pm or whatever but it was the same texture all the way through. It actually reminded me of a moist Hostess crumb donut.

                                              The Bob's buttermilk plain, in your own words, "required" a dunk in order to be comfortably swallowed. Of course, the only thing I had around me was a Shakerato and it did not make the donut any better. I wasn't willing to drop another buck fifty just to have proper coffee so I could dunk a donut into it. It was calories and dollars not well spent.

                                              My "local" place is Dad's Donuts in Burbank, Victory/Buena Vista. The donuts are slightly crisp on the outside and moist on the inside. I'm not saying the donuts are worth driving for, I'm just saying Bob's isn't worth driving for.

                                              1. re: ns1

                                                I suspect it's the time of day that's the issue. I don't eat them often, but when I do, it's in the morning.

                                                There's usually several people in line when I arrive, and they've always got several trays of donuts cooling next to the ones that are being sold to customers, so there's high turnover.

                                                When I buy them for my office (which is once every couple of months) they've been very consistent, as described above. I've never, ever experienced a dry Bob's buttermilk cake or crumb (and they don't last until the afternoon).

                                                I've always got my own supply of coffee (Chemex brewed) which I take to work in a thermos, so I arrive to work dunk-ready.

                                                Mr Taster

                                                1. re: Mr Taster

                                                  Yeah I highly suspect it's the timing. Ever get the beignet? how is it?

                                                  1. re: ns1

                                                    Terrible.

                                                    It would be fine if they didn't call it a beignet-- it's not light and tender enough. It's really a square risen donut covered with powdered sugar. So, if you eat it with those expectations, you'll be fine.

                                                    Mr Taster

                                                2. re: ns1

                                                  If you lost me at "shakerato" but you utterly confound me by criticizing a donut that you bought at 3:00 p.m.

                                          3. re: ns1

                                            thanks.

                                            i misread.

                                            my bad.

                                            sometimes speed reading is just ...

                                    2. re: ns1

                                      what did you think of the shakerato ????

                                      1. re: kevin

                                        It was pretty good for a milk based coffee drink, of which I'm not usually a fan.

                                        1. re: ns1

                                          it sure as hell ain't my coffee drink of choice: cafe sua dua (sp?).

                                          esp when it comes with a great atmosphere for the added attractions.

                                    3. re: Mr Taster

                                      Stopped by Singapore Banana Leaf, tried the mee goreng w/ egg + satay.

                                      Mee goreng was life changing - I need to find me more of this ASAP. Egg was a little overcooked, chicken satay nothing to write home about. Of course I can't have any of that peanut sauce which looked super delicious, so my review of the satay is for the straight up chicken.

                                       
                                    4. re: MoreMolecules

                                      Yes to Bob's Donuts. I can't get off their apple fritter. Crispy fried, appley goodness.

                                    5. Short Order is celebrating with Dine LA - $15 dollar lunch! Loteria is too. The great Bakery is gone :(

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                                        1. re: Mr Taster

                                          I love their custard shakes but I don't like burgers unless they are cooked on a griddle.

                                          1. re: Mr Taster

                                            ive heard the cocktails there are very good.

                                            loteria was kinda meh last time i went.

                                            1. re: linus

                                              I can't get past the fact that they charge father's office prices for what it distinctly a sub par FancyBurger(tm). If you're going to charge those FUB prices, you'd better have a product to justify them especially when competition in LA for FancyBurgers(tm) is so fierce.

                                              Can't vouch for the cocktails.

                                              Mr Taster

                                              1. re: Mr Taster

                                                I could not have put it any better, Mr. Taster. Their food is good, but their prices are not, and with all the local competition, no point in getting gouged.

                                            2. re: Mr Taster

                                              short order sucks, but it's bakery sisster is pretty good.

                                              1. re: kevin

                                                Agree +1 for Short Cake and not Short Order

                                            3. re: chewbacca

                                              ...that's why I'll be in the area. Rueben is $14. DineLA is $15. No brainer for this Reuben addict

                                              1. re: ns1

                                                Haven't tried the reuben-- just two different burgers (on two different occasions) and each time I left feeling empty inside both my soul and my wallet.

                                                I really dislike the whole Silverton "down-home-fancy" schtick. You cannot be down to earth and charge $12-$14 for a hamburger. It's the false pretense of hominess that rankles my bunches.

                                                For all the ridiculousness of Father's Office, at least they're not pretending to be down-to-earth. I can respect that more than I can the illusion that Silverton tried to project. (Please, take the fucking wheelbarrow off the roof.)

                                                By the way, for anyone who's interested, I'm not this crotchety in real life :)

                                                Mr Taster

                                                1. re: Mr Taster

                                                  For a really great burger in the area The Golden State is just two blocks north on Fairfax. Beer floats too.

                                                  1. re: wienermobile

                                                    Yup. And they don't charge extra for a side, either-- which you would think would be de rigeur, part of the age-old unofficial contract between burger purveyor and customer-- but in this day & age, is not.

                                                    I talked with one of the guys once (Jason, I think) and he was philosophically opposed to the idea of french fries a la carte. I appreciate and respect that. He's charging a fair price (for the area), using high quality ingredients, and making a nice profit for himself. It's capitalism the way it should be-- without the gouging (although one could argue they make up their profits on the expensive beer...!)

                                                    Mr Taster

                                                      1. re: schrutefarms

                                                        And spicey sauce to dip those fries in. It's quite addictive.

                                                      2. re: Mr Taster

                                                        Jason is a cool, great guy. And of course, even more philosophical in his approach to beers.

                                                        In my opinion, Golden State's fish and chips are even better.

                                                        Though in the past year or so, the beer list is not as well-curated and unique as it once was, but that may just have a little something to do with every tom, dick, and harry opening up a gourmet beer food bar these days.

                                                        1. re: A5 KOBE

                                                          Pann's is better both of them for it's patty melt, which is the paragon and epitome of perfection.

                                                          1. re: kevin

                                                            The patty melt is average in taste and above average in size. Taste is similar to Tops in Pasadena.

                                                              1. re: jgilbert1000

                                                                My bad.

                                                                I thought there was a digressive discussion.

                                                                Fair enough.

                                                        2. re: Mr Taster

                                                          Taster, I'm going to get shit for this too.

                                                          but i agree with you 100 and ten fucking percent that "the whole Silverton "down-home-fancy" schtick" is lame, disingenuous, and not that great. (As many can tell, I'm not a fan of her Mozza joints and come to think of it I'm not a fan of Campanile through the years. I'm in the serious minority on my sentiments here --- though I have not tried her mozzarella bar at the Osteria yet).

                                                        3. re: ns1

                                                          Oh, and please let us know how the reuben is, and if the bread disintegrates halfway through eating it (as it does with the burger)

                                                          Mr Taster

                                                          1. re: Mr Taster

                                                            Yep. I got no interest in their hamburgers based on previous Short Order reviews (+ the comments above), but REUBEN!!! If they're out I might just walk out

                                                            1. re: ns1

                                                              ns1, save your dollars at least for some great sushi. please skip short order unless unless unless you just want to grab an OK version of a mixology cocktail. but do grab some great third wave coffee from its sister spot.

                                                              1. re: kevin

                                                                NOBODY has said the rueben sucked, so I'm going to go ahead and gamble $15 on it. Call it my DOM contribution.

                                                                1. re: ns1

                                                                  mind you dont break a tooth or choke on the down home fancy schtick.

                                                            2. re: Mr Taster

                                                              Rueben @ Short Order.

                                                              Pretty good but not amazing; will not return for it as it didn't have the WOW factor. Bread was grilled pretty nicely so it didn't disintegrate. If anything it was grilled too crunchy.

                                                               
                                                          2. re: chewbacca

                                                            The short order bakery is gone ????

                                                            Or the bakery that has been there for years upon countless years.

                                                          3. Piedmontese beef at Marconda
                                                            Double baked almond croissant at Short Cake

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                                                            1. re: A5 KOBE

                                                              Grass fed strip steak at Marconda's on sale for $14ish/lb.

                                                              Mr Taster