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Frizzle Jul 24, 2013 01:15 PM

I want to make this dish for a friend. http://cuisine.co.nz/cuisine.nsf/reci...

The friend is pregnant and has been advised by her doctor to avoid all alcohol for the first trimester - even in long cooked dishes. I could cook something else but she loves olives and lamb and is very excited at the thought of this dish.

Does anyone have any suggestions for what I could use as a substitute for the 300ml of white wine in the recipe?

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    treb Jul 24, 2013 01:21 PM

    Maybe some of the brine from the nicoise olives and juice from the tomatoes. Both are flavorful liquids.

    1. greygarious Jul 24, 2013 01:24 PM

      white grape juice, or chicken broth

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      1. re: greygarious
        Ruthie789 Jul 26, 2013 02:16 PM

        I vote for the chicken broth as well but would also add some grated lemon rind to the dish which is quite common in this regional cuisine.

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        jennymoon Jul 24, 2013 01:26 PM

        I think a light broth or stock would work. Simmer a stalk of celery, a carrot, and half an onion in some water for 30 minutes. You could also add any Provencal-y herbs you have handy (savory, fennel, basil, thyme)

        Probably water would even be fine. The white wine in this recipe is combined with onions, garlic, olives, and anchovies - I don't think that the taste of the wine is going to really shine through anyways.

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          janniecooks Jul 24, 2013 01:28 PM

          For that small amount chicken broth is a good substitute; i often use chicken broth in beef or pork braises (and no wine) to good effect.

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          1. re: janniecooks
            pamf Jul 24, 2013 01:38 PM

            Might also want to add a splash of vinegar or lemon juice because white wine adds some acidity.

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            miss_belle Jul 24, 2013 01:30 PM

            A good non-alcoholic white wine? If there is such a thing?

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            1. re: miss_belle
              suzigirl Jul 24, 2013 01:41 PM

              I have never tried it but i have heard good things about Fre wine

              1. re: suzigirl
                pinehurst Jul 24, 2013 02:25 PM

                The white Fre is okay...the red, no, but I would go with miss_belle's suggestion because it's a pretty good amount of wine...what is that, a cup and a half, a little under? So to get the whiff of wine flavor, I'd use it.

                1. re: pinehurst
                  miss_belle Jul 24, 2013 04:08 PM

                  That's what I was thinking too. 1 1/4 c of white wine amounts to a goodly bunch of flavor.

                  Also, her friend can always have a glass of n/a wine with dinner while everyone else is drinking the good stuff. That way the rest of the bottle won't go to waste:-)

                  Thank you to you too suzigirl.

                  1. re: miss_belle
                    hotoynoodle Jul 24, 2013 04:17 PM

                    except the flavor of most n/a wines is pretty terrible, so why add something that doesn't taste good to a lovely dish?

                    just use a light broth or stock and add some lemon juice as others have already mentioned.

                    it's nice of you to cook for a pregnant lady!

                    1. re: miss_belle
                      suzigirl Jul 24, 2013 05:34 PM

                      I am a drinker of wine, not a cooker of it so I am not one to know if Fre tastes good when cooked, or any n/a wine for that matter but i think the winey smell and taste would be important to the finished flavors.
                      And feeling like you are participating with a n/a glass of wine sounds like a win and a way to use up the wine

                      1. re: suzigirl
                        Frizzle Jul 24, 2013 05:45 PM

                        Ok, I've found a stockist of Fre so I will pick some up and taste it. If it tastes horrendous I'll choose one of the other suggestions.

                        Thanks to all who have helped with advice.

                        1. re: Frizzle
                          suzigirl Jul 24, 2013 05:51 PM

                          Good. Sounds like the way to start. Maybe you can ask at the liquor store if they like one n/a over another. While I think the other posters are right on with adding acid to broth, it just won't taste like wine. It will be a fine substitute if the n/a wine is a bust. Happy hunting Frizzle

                  2. re: suzigirl
                    Ruthie789 Jul 26, 2013 02:13 PM

                    I quite like a brand called Vino Zero.

                  3. re: miss_belle
                    Ruthie789 Jul 26, 2013 02:17 PM

                    A replacement or a substitute is more like it. I have tried a number of them and most are mediocre.

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                    Westminstress Jul 24, 2013 01:44 PM

                    I'd use chicken stock or water for the initial deglazing and add a bit of lemon juice at the end for acidity.

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                      FriedClamFanatic Jul 24, 2013 01:53 PM

                      the wine itself should have all the alcohol gone, leaving just the flavor.

                      But......chicken broth preferably low sodium would work or a mirepoix type stock as suggested above...the splash of vinegar is a good idea

                      1. JungMann Jul 24, 2013 02:01 PM

                        I would use stock with a little lemon juice. Adjust the lemon juice after adding the anchovies to balance.

                        FWIW, I dry roast tied lamb's leg. There are a few recipes out there involving olives without the wine as well.

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                          Frizzle Jul 26, 2013 01:06 PM

                          An update to this.
                          The dinner has been postponed due to a family emergency of the guests. I did buy a bottle of the Chardonnay Fre. I had a wee tipple and found it to be a bit like grape juice. Slightly more winey but not much.
                          I think when I do make this for her I will use half or two thirds Fre, stock and some lemon. I think using all Fre would make the dish too sweet.

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                          1. re: Frizzle
                            Ruthie789 Jul 26, 2013 02:14 PM

                            I have tried this brand and found the Chardonnay too sweet but liked another white wine made by the same company.

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                            wincountrygirl Jul 26, 2013 01:12 PM

                            Chicken broth or stock

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