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Next Food Network Star 7/21/13 - Spoilers

jujuthomas Jul 22, 2013 08:29 AM

SO, Lovely won the redemption challenges, then gets sent home again! I was not sorry to see her go, she really grates on my nerves for some reason.

I thought the ladies did a good, but not great, job with their donut shop promo... but both teams missed some good opportunities to talk about the food! wtf - 500 year old yeast starter? potato flour? why? why would you not talk about those things? anyway. hopefully the remaining contestants learned something.

My early favorite to win was Stacy, but I think now Nikki is in front. She has really found her stride, IMO.

  1. chris2269 Jul 22, 2013 06:50 PM

    Still waiting for a torrent to watch this. Glad lovely is gone all PR no Substance.

    1. Njchicaa Jul 22, 2013 07:04 PM

      I don't really like any of them enough to watch their own show except maybe Rodney.

      Much like Jeff Mauro aka Sandwich King, he has stayed true to his POV throughout the show. I've seen him on Paula Deen and I think also Ace if Cakes. He can be great in front of the camera.

      My money is on Rodney to win at this point. The rest of them are just so forgettable. I've watched every episode this season and I still can't tell Damaris and Nikki apart. I know one is the "veggie expert" but I don't know who and I have no clue what the other POV is.

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      1. re: Njchicaa
        paulj Jul 22, 2013 10:08 PM

        Nikki's blog - she has more personality on the blog than on the show.

        1. re: Njchicaa
          lscanlon Jul 23, 2013 06:18 AM

          I agree with Njchicaa. I can't imagine getting hooked on a show starring any of the contestants, except maybe Rodney. I like how unpredictable he is. Yes, he's hard to understand sometimes, but I'm sure FN could get him some speech training if he won. I used to think Stacy was the clear favorite, but it's clear now that she doesn't have much of a personality.

          1. re: Njchicaa
            wincountrygirl Jul 24, 2013 04:58 AM

            I agree. I would not watch any of them, they have nothing to teach me. I like Stacey she has a nice quality. Rodney has nothing to offer, but I can see him being like a Guy Fieri hosting.

          2. Firegoat Jul 22, 2013 08:38 PM

            If the Pie Guy could just speak so that human ears could understand him. ....I liked the premise... maybe he could show me how to keep my pie bottoms from getting soggy, or how to make a real NY pizza pie. I don't see that happening.

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            1. re: Firegoat
              ennuisans Jul 22, 2013 09:44 PM

              When it comes to exuberance he reminded me a lot of Guy in the pizza piece. I'm concerned that I've only seen sweet pies from him (that I remember). No savory pies or even popovers or cobblers. I'm afraid he'll be too limited (but I was wrong about Jeff Mauro that way).

              Lovely came back with such a handicap, and Nikki (or Damaris?) nailed it when she said Lovely used vague descriptors in her presentation. She may have outcooked six people but she was without weeks of experience with what the judges were expecting from the contestants. And sent home because she hadn't improved in how she presented information. Pfft.

              Stacy looks so terrified.

              1. re: ennuisans
                WNYamateur Jul 23, 2013 05:43 AM

                I'm surprised that Lovely's mouth didn't get her in MORE trouble:


                "Are you enjoying this pizza as much as ME?"

                1. re: WNYamateur
                  chicgail Jul 23, 2013 07:16 PM

                  I cringed both times.

                2. re: ennuisans
                  DiningDiva Jul 23, 2013 06:09 AM

                  I think Stacy is trying to be who she thinks they *want* her to be rather than who she really is. She's too much in her head, hence the terrified expression. . .she's just trying to figure out how to "do" what will win rather than just being.

                  1. re: DiningDiva
                    C. Hamster Jul 23, 2013 03:57 PM

                    I agree with Dining Diva.

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                rasputina Jul 23, 2013 06:13 AM

                When I saw "lovely" walk out I thought, wouldn't it be great if she gets sent home today.

                It's so annoying when people speak about themselves in the third person.

                I just find Stacy and Nikki uninteresting. Demaris cracks me me up though.

                1. junescook Jul 23, 2013 01:19 PM

                  Rodney does nothing for me. I don't get his schtick. When I can understand what he's saying he really isn't very informative, and he ain't no musician.

                  And while I agree that Stacy has been the most polished throughout the competition, I find Demaris really appealing, and I can imagine her in a program traveling around the south highlighting southern customs and food.

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                  1. re: junescook
                    gaffk Jul 23, 2013 01:28 PM

                    Agreed . . .week after week I'm left gnashing my teeth that Rodney remains. The man can't speak or sing and his food isn't impressive either. But as this board proves--different strokes.

                    And I too am rooting for Demaris. She's a little goofy, but she seems to know food and how to relate to it.

                    1. re: gaffk
                      C. Hamster Jul 23, 2013 04:01 PM

                      But he swaggers and wears a ridiculous(ly) cool hat!

                      I've disliked him from the beginning. He's incomprehensible. His "cooking" is rather amateurish and unappealing.

                      People who like Guy might like him but I can't imagine broader appeal.

                      Demaris I like. And don't they need a Southern show now?

                      1. re: C. Hamster
                        rasputina Jul 23, 2013 04:18 PM

                        I just don't get "pie style"

                        1. re: rasputina
                          pine time Jul 24, 2013 09:08 AM

                          Agree, rasputina. Maybe I should audition next year. I could be "The Toast Lady." Hey, just realized that could be booze, too. Hmmmm...

                        2. re: C. Hamster
                          gaffk Jul 23, 2013 05:17 PM

                          Yes! Demaris can be the modern Paula Deen replacement!

                          Three phrases I hope I never hear after this series is done:
                          "party on a plate"
                          "pie style"
                          "culinary sin"

                          And I never trust these swaggering hat-wearing contestants--it seems there's one on every cooking-related reality show.

                          1. re: gaffk
                            dmjordan Jul 24, 2013 10:10 AM

                            Totally agree with your whole post. And how exactly is 500-year-old yeast a culinary sin? Bobby commented on it during their show but didn't call him on it later.

                      2. re: junescook
                        libgirl2 Jul 23, 2013 01:40 PM

                        I'm warming to Demaris and still like Nikki. I always liked Stacey, but she seems to be one note and kind of boring lately. I would watch Demaris for fun and Nikki for actual food ideas as I'm always trying to find more veggie dishes for the family.

                        1. re: junescook
                          Jenny Ondioline Jul 23, 2013 01:43 PM

                          Rodney's schtick is unbearable, but Russell is even worse. Every time he opens his mouth, I'm like "if you say ONE MORE WORD about 'culinary sin,' whatever you think that is, I'm throttling you through the TV screen..."

                          1. re: Jenny Ondioline
                            chowser Jul 23, 2013 06:07 PM

                            I'm with you on both Rodney and Russell. HOW is 500 year old yeast "culinary sin"? Culinary sin to me is like fish and cheese, not something that would be great to try and hear about. They're both about themselves and it showed on their episode. Then again, Guy is about himself and he's doing wonders. I can't stand Guy either.

                            1. re: chowser
                              ennuisans Jul 23, 2013 07:03 PM

                              I'm surprised they haven't called Russell out on his "sins" schtick more than they have. I agree with you; to me a culinary sin is something you should not do, not (as Russell presents it) things most cooks do now and then. Butter, bacon. Also his ingredients are not vaguely revolutionary.

                              A motto, or whatever that is, shouldn't be obscure. Compared to "pie guy" or "sandwich king", "culinary sins" is an explanation that requires an explanation.

                              1. re: ennuisans
                                chowser Jul 23, 2013 07:27 PM

                                Paula Deen v.2

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                          Jambie Jul 23, 2013 04:23 PM

                          I think my biggest surprise (or let down really) for this season was Chad. When I saw the first episode, I thought he was a natural and would easily walk away with a win. His initial shine certainly faded as the weeks went on.

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                          1. re: Jambie
                            gaffk Jul 23, 2013 05:21 PM

                            I was sort of puling for Chad at first: he has a great smile and, honestly, he's local to me. But I can never really get behind someone handling food who seems in serious need of a shampoo and hair cut (or at least shampoo and pony tail holder).

                            His new restaurant is due to open in 4-6 weeks and I'm still on the fence about trying it. Guess I'll wait until the early reviews are in.

                            1. re: gaffk
                              cwdonald Jul 25, 2013 10:29 AM

                              Gafk did you ever eat at either of the Rosies BBQ locations? Those were Chad's. I am curious to see how close the food at the Money Pit or Lucky Well or whatever the new restaurant is going to be called is to Rosie's. I hope it will be better!

                              1. re: cwdonald
                                gaffk Jul 25, 2013 04:54 PM

                                No, I don't think I was very aware of those locations. Monthly trips to Ambler are a relatively recent development, since friends and I discovered the Ambler Theater.

                                I think I saw that it's going to be the Lucky Well and will include other American fare besides just BBQ. (But if he doesn't get to a barber or hair accessory store, I may not be brave enough to try ;)

                                1. re: gaffk
                                  gaffk Oct 1, 2013 05:09 PM

                                  So anyway, Chad's Lucky Well opened last week and I tried it this evening. My review is on the Philly board (http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/917806).

                                  Chad's hair is shorter and firmly secured by a bandana :)

                            2. re: Jambie
                              chowser Jul 23, 2013 06:08 PM

                              I liked Chad, too. I thought w/ good coaching he or Viet would have good shows where you could learn something. Not that that's what Food Network is looking for that. They're looking for someone they can market.

                              1. re: chowser
                                gaffk Jul 23, 2013 07:02 PM

                                Viet was such a cutie. His show, with some polish, is probably the only one I would have watched.

                            3. Breadcrumbs Jul 24, 2013 10:36 AM

                              This definitely isn't the strongest FNS season and I'm really struggling to see any of the contestants as food experts.

                              I think Stacy would do well as a commentator on a FN show but I can't see her with her own programme.

                              I'm not excited by either of the guys. I do see a bit of Guy Fieri in the mumbling guy but his inability to form an intelligible sentence is frustrating and I expect, limiting.

                              I do think Nikki is leading at the moment, though I don't see myself having any interest in her show if she were to win. Ultimately she seems very forgettable.

                              That leaves me with Damaris. I have to say that she's growing on me. I enjoy her unpredictability and quirkiness. Do I want to watch "The Loopy Girl Cooks" ...likely not but I could see her doing a travel/food show - I think she'd thrive in the South but could be quite funny travelling to places that are "new to her" and trying new foods, visiting food shops etc. As I type I realize I have no idea what her PoV is supposed to be...is it Southern?

                              ETA: Like others have commented, happy to see Lovely leave...again. Hopefully this is the last we see of her.

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                              1. re: Breadcrumbs
                                chowser Jul 24, 2013 10:41 AM

                                Damaris would be good at a show like that.

                                "This definitely isn't the strongest FNS season and I'm really struggling to see any of the contestants as food experts."

                                This is the case every season for me. While the NFNS is just barely watchable (if only to discuss it here!), I don't think any of the contestants are ones I want to watch. Oh, there was the spice guy who I thought would be good but he didn't win. I can't remember his name anymore. The ones who are good chefs, like Viet, don't have the presence they want. Overly bubbly, personal stories, etc.

                                1. re: chowser
                                  rasputina Jul 25, 2013 07:07 AM

                                  The spice guy from a previous season? You are probably referring to Jeffrey Saad. While he didn't win, FN gave him one of those travel eats shows, United Tastes of America.

                                  1. re: rasputina
                                    chowser Jul 25, 2013 10:30 AM

                                    Yes, that's him. Have you seen the show? I vaguely remember seeing a commercial now that you mention it.

                                    1. re: chowser
                                      rasputina Jul 25, 2013 12:27 PM

                                      I saw a couple minutes of it once when I turned on the TV and it happened to be on. I'm not really a fan of those travel food shows in general, so I don't feel qualified to review it. I did think he seemed like a nice guy when he was on FNS so I watched a few minutes of it. He is personable.

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                                Jambie Jul 24, 2013 05:10 PM

                                Has Susie Fogelson made an appearance yet this year?

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                                1. re: Jambie
                                  DiningDiva Jul 24, 2013 05:38 PM

                                  Yes, first episode.

                                  Bob has made 2 appearances

                                2. jmckee Jul 25, 2013 10:14 AM

                                  I have come to the conclusion that I don't like any of them except Demaris. She seems genuine and is fun to watch.

                                  Rodney is beyond irritation, like "Vic Vegas" on crack.

                                  The culinary sin dude is hipped on his marketing tags, not cooking or performing.

                                  Stacy and Nikki both annoy me. Stacy is beyond phony, and I simply can't watch anything starring "Nikki Dinki" without giggling uncontrollably.

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                                  1. re: jmckee
                                    chowser Jul 25, 2013 10:31 AM

                                    Stacy looked manic with that donut guy. She was trying so hard that I felt sorry for her.

                                    1. re: chowser
                                      jmckee Jul 26, 2013 07:26 AM

                                      That's the word I was looking for: Manic. She always looked forced and manic. Eyes WIDE OPEN. Fixed and Joker-like grin.

                                      1. re: jmckee
                                        DiningDiva Jul 26, 2013 08:35 AM

                                        See my comments below on this thread...

                                        Stacy's restaurant is up the street from my house. I've met her many time and talked with her at length about her resto. She is very nice, very warm and friendly. Do I think she should win? Not sure. She is not, however, manic, which after watching her the last 6 weeks, led me to make the comments I did below.

                                        If she'd just relax and be herself instead of who she thinks the selection committee *wants* her to be, she'd be fine.

                                        1. re: DiningDiva
                                          jujuthomas Jul 26, 2013 09:46 AM

                                          she seems very, very driven. ITA that if she'd just chill and be herself she'd be great. :)

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                                    rasputina Jul 28, 2013 07:35 PM

                                    Ok so I was watching tonights episode and it finally clicked why I don't like Stacy. She just comes across like a morning talk show host to me. I'm sure she is a very nice person. But I just have no desire to watch her at all. I don't like her for the same reason I can't stand Kelly Ripa.

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