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Ericruo Jul 21, 2013 05:49 PM

Had a nice lunch of decent Xiao Long Bao and fish filets in Wine Sauce at Shanghai Restaurant. Thought the bao were decent, kind of 'B' in its execution, likely frozen and steamed up. The fish filets were nicely cooked, the wine sauce was good but too thickened up.

When we walked out, we found a place that's just about to open: Tian Jin Dumplings at 989 Franklin, Suite B- only take out. They are going to be open 7 days a week, from 8 am to 6 pm. They only had the pork and chive dumplings, $6.75 for 15. This may be a very interesting place! The dumplings clearly are hand made. They had the Robot Coupe box outside their booth and they were hand rolling the dough as we walked walked by.

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  1. Melanie Wong Jul 21, 2013 06:50 PM

    What style of dumplings? Dare I hope for that Tian Jin specialty, Gou Bu Li Tang Baozi?

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      Ericruo Jul 21, 2013 07:58 PM

      Illiterate in Chinese, sorry

      Menu says:
      Tianjin pork bun
      Vegetable pork bun
      Biscuits (pan-fried cake)
      Smoked egg
      Pan fried pancake fruit
      Vegetarian chive pie
      Pork cabbage pie
      Handmade pork chive dumplings
      Handmade pork cabbage dumplings

      frozen:

      "According to personal taste can order one day in advance, minimum order 50"

      The pork & chive and the pork & cabbage plus:

      Pork and celery dumplings
      Vegetarian San Sun dumplings
      San Sum dumplings (pork, chive, shrimp and egg)
      Beef and carrot dumplings
      Flounder and celery dumplings

      1. re: Ericruo
        Melanie Wong Jul 21, 2013 08:25 PM

        Thanks for sharing the menu! Gou bu li tang baozi is a giant steamed pork bun, so perhaps the first one listed on the menu. Gou bu li means "dog won't touch".

        Here's more about this specialty:
        http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/34465
        http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/236726
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go_Believe

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          klyeoh Aug 28, 2013 08:44 AM

          Somehow, I'm not surprised that Goubuli's smallish pork buns (folks in Tianjin would wolf down 6-8 buns at one go) were *upsized* to giant pork buns in the US :-D

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          soupçon Aug 12, 2013 03:31 PM

          From the name of the place, its specialty appears to be shui jiao, and that's what leads the picture display posted below.

          The buns, from their name and size,appear not to be goubuli, but the more ubiquitous niurou bao and cai rou bao, similar to what draws the crowds at Good Mong Kok in SF Chinatown.

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        zippo Jul 22, 2013 04:22 PM

        formally opens tomorrow, Tuesday, 7/23 from 8 am - 6 pm and 7 days a week at those hours thereafter. It's on the west side of Franklin St., across from Bank of America and the Pacific Renaissance Plaza.

        photos, click on "Start Slideshow" at upper right, with score:

        http://weeklyegret.phanfare.com/6158489

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          shanghaikid Jul 22, 2013 08:24 PM

          it's in the spot Sushi King was at.

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            zippo Aug 27, 2013 05:03 PM

            It appears that Tian Jin has new hours according to a sign I saw by their window this afternoon:

            Tuesday: closed
            Wed., - Sunday: 8 am - 3 pm

            cash only

          2. Melanie Wong Jul 23, 2013 06:35 PM

            It's past closing time. Did anyone try it?

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              shanghaikid Jul 23, 2013 06:43 PM

              got there at 3. only pan fried pancake fruit(3.95) was left.
              -tasted and looked like a crepe wrapped around 2 you tiaos
              greasy taste from the you tiao, black sesame taste from the crepes.
              wouldn't reorder this..

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                Martin Strell Jul 23, 2013 07:28 PM

                I was there at a little past 1:00, and they were already out of everything except the "Pan fried pancake fruit" which shanghaikid mentions above. This is better known as Jianbing Guozi, a common snack sold in carts in the streets of Tianjin and Beijing. See http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/820809. It wasn't the best I've had (I like the one at Everyday Beijing in San Mateo better), but my experience wasn't as negative as shanghaikid's. It didn't have the spicy sauce on it that I'm used to, and I agree that it was very heavy.

                 
                 
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                  Melanie Wong Jul 25, 2013 01:24 AM

                  Thanks to you both for the jianbing report. Sounds like TJD has an auspicious first day.

              2. felice Aug 12, 2013 01:26 PM

                Tried their pork and leek dumplings today: 15 for $6.75. Really tasty, lots of leek, the wrapper is thinner than most. I think the best in this neighborhood.

                1. Melanie Wong Aug 12, 2013 01:55 PM

                  Anyone tried the Tianjin pork bun?

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                    abstractpoet Aug 13, 2013 02:44 PM

                    It did not appear that the Tianjin pork bun is on the menu anymore -- unless they're just calling them "pork buns" now, in which case they look something like this:

                    http://www.yelp.com/biz_photos/tian-j...

                    (I haven't tried those yet.) The dumplings are real good.

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                      moto Aug 13, 2013 02:53 PM

                      we tried both the Tianjin pork and pork/veg buns. the only difference was a small amount of chives with the meat in the latter. they were good, and everything tasted fresh, simple, not excessive in salt or msg. not in the same league though as our gold standard from the SGV in greater LA. they might be the best take out steamed bao in Oakland C-town, and for the price we have no motivation to go elsewhere. the same is true for the pork and leek dumplings we tried.

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                        Melanie Wong Aug 15, 2013 09:24 PM

                        So, the word so far is thumbs up on the dumplings and steamed buns. Thumbs down on the jianbing, at least the early version.

                        How about the smoked egg or the panfried cakes/pies/biscuits?

                    2. PorkButt Aug 16, 2013 11:12 AM

                      So far I've tried the Tianjin bun, pork/veg bun, and youtiao. The woman at the window says that they start running out of things around 10am and are usually sold out of most items by noon. It's possible to stop by early to preorder and they'll hold it for you. I've never been there early enough to get anything out of a steamer and the bao were piled into plastic containers.

                      The bun fillings are mildly flavored and not very sharp with ginger and white pepper. Salting seemed to vary between visits though.

                      Tianjin bao ($0.50) is just pork with a bit of scallion. Bigger than a goubuli.

                      Pork and vegetable bun ($0.65) is larger than the Tianjin bao and has cabbage, not chive as someone else claimed. The cabbage still had some crunch which I didn't mind.

                      Youtiao ($1?) was doughy but fine for jook when sliced and reheated. Smaller but cheaper than the takeout places.

                      The bun dough is yeast-raised and has a good chew. No sourness so I think they added some alkaline solution to the dough. It's been years since I've bothered with Shandong but from what I remember this bao is better.

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                        moto Aug 16, 2013 12:07 PM

                        one of the traditional leavening agents for bao dough is ammonia based. if you have it in your pantry it can be used as a 'smelling salt'. doesn't leave the aftertaste that yeast sometimes does.

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                          Pius Avocado III Aug 16, 2013 12:25 PM

                          I had no problem getting dumplings at 12:15 a few days ago.

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                            PorkButt Aug 16, 2013 12:45 PM

                            They always have frozen dumplings that they can cook quickly but the woman said that they can only make a limited number of bao each day because of their small space.

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                              Pius Avocado III Aug 16, 2013 01:10 PM

                              I picked up some bao 5 minutes ago; there were plenty.

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                                PorkButt Aug 16, 2013 01:29 PM

                                They may have made more for Friday and the woman was lying about what they could make. They were out of nearly everything at 1pm on two mid-week visits.

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                          zippo Sep 17, 2013 09:59 PM

                          Luke Tsai of the East Bay Express writes that the mung-bean crepe (Jianbing guozi) was simple and homey, the juiciness of the beef-and-carrot dumplings was rich without being greasy, and the pork-and-chive dumplings were fragrant with wrappers thin and delicate.

                          http://www.eastbayexpress.com/oakland...

                           
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                            abstractpoet Sep 26, 2013 12:28 PM

                            The owner apparently also makes off-menu special dumplings (beyond those listed) by request, with advance notice of course. If she's already made a big batch for the day and has extra, you don't have to buy an entire 50 dumpling order. She had some lamb-and-scallion dumplings the other day that were excellent. I think I paid $9.99 for 20.

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                              abstractpoet Oct 5, 2013 02:28 PM

                              She had Chinese chive pockets (jiu cai hezi) today. $0.99 each, Saturdays only. Not as good as fried to order, but not bad -- still warm. The filling was chives, thickish rice noodles cut short, a good amount of egg, and a few little bits of something else I wasn't sure about: Japanese-style fishcake? Artificial crab leg?

                              She was swamped and sold out of almost everything by around noon.

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                                vincentlo Oct 7, 2013 12:32 AM

                                So they don't advertise this chive dish (韭菜盒子) as a vegetarian one? Probably chopped-up shrimp inside.

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                                  abstractpoet Oct 7, 2013 02:27 PM

                                  It's not listed on the menu at all, so I'm not sure if it's vegetarian. Definitely wasn't just regular shrimp, though.

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                                    theSauce Dec 15, 2013 08:22 PM

                                    Chive pockets are not vegetarian, though the Chinese often consider them vegetarian because it's doesn't contain any kind of red meat. It does have eggs and dried shrimp inside.

                                2. daveena Dec 7, 2013 12:16 PM

                                  Another addition to my weekly rotation. The crepes frequently sell out (I've seen people asking for them with the intensity of heroin addicts looking for their next hit), so I try to get them when I can, but a lunch of 15 little dumplings is also a satisfying option. The last time I got them, I went a little late and they ran out of their usual chili sauce, so they gave me a little packet of Tapatio instead. I <heart> Oakland.

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                                    flavorenhancer Jan 29, 2014 12:14 PM

                                    The dish previously in the Tianjin Dumplings menu written in english as Pan Fried Pancake Fruit (Jianbing Guozi) has been 're-branded' as Savory Tianjin Crepe. It is still a uniquely tasty, hefty, meatless street snack for a great price ($3.95).

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                                      zippo Feb 3, 2014 05:29 PM

                                      I walked by Tian Jin this afternoon and they had a sign posted that said that they would be closed for a few days and will reopen on Wednesday, February 12, 2014.

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