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Momofuko Milk Bar

kwass Jul 19, 2013 05:11 AM

Momofuko Milk Bar is opening today on the 2nd Floor of Momofuko. This was mentioned in the Openings Thread, but I thought it deserved its own thread. Here is a link to the Toronto Star article announcing its opening:


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    ylsf Jul 19, 2013 07:01 AM

    Yeah, and funny how the head office denied it was happening and was wondering where this information came from while staff was directly telling guests that it was coming :)

    I think my expectations for the "crack" pie were too high. I thought it was decent but definitely not something addictive for me.

    Interesting that they are shipping in from NYC.

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    1. re: ylsf
      kwass Jul 19, 2013 07:35 AM

      Is the crack pie sort of like a butter tart?

      1. re: kwass
        callitasicit Jul 19, 2013 07:53 AM

        Yes, it is very similar to a butter tart but more like a thin pie and more eggy.

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          kwass Jul 19, 2013 07:59 AM

          Thanks callltastic! Even though you say it doesn't live up to the hype, I'm looking forward to trying it!

      2. re: ylsf
        Nevy Jul 19, 2013 09:57 AM

        They're shipping the baked goods instead of making it locally? I'm surprised... I won't be rushing to try it TO if that's the case. I had my sugary fill in NYC already.

        If they do the soft serve... That I might try.

        1. re: ylsf
          estufarian Jul 19, 2013 11:14 AM

          The crack pie has been on their Summerlicious menu (Daisho) the whole time - as well as a couple of other Milk Bar items.

          1. re: estufarian
            ylsf Jul 19, 2013 01:34 PM

            Yeah, I tried the Crack Pie at Daisho when I went. That is why I am surprised they were denying the rumours.

            Says in the Toronto Star article that they are shipping in daily and that the baked good are in less transit time then they are when they go to one of their pop-ups in the summer.

            1. re: ylsf
              kwass Jul 19, 2013 01:40 PM

              It seems really odd that they're shipping in the baked goods daily. Why not just make them here?!

              1. re: kwass
                bytepusher Jul 19, 2013 03:09 PM

                They already have a big, commissary kitchen in the outer boroughs of NYC where they ship to the retail outlets in NYC and direct to customers all over the US. They have all the equipment, trained bakers who know the recipes, sources of supply for all the ingredients.

                There's probably no room to do this stuff in the existing kitchens at Momofuku Toronto so they would have to rent something, equip it, staff it, adapt the recipes for the differences in ingredients (our all purpose flour tends to be somewhat higher in gluten), establish a QC program yada yada yada

                There's a reason why so few restaurants run their own pastry departments and outsource to Dufflet et al.

                1. re: bytepusher
                  kwass Jul 19, 2013 03:12 PM

                  Makes sense when you explain it, but it still seems a long way to transport baked goods.

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                    bytepusher Jul 19, 2013 03:19 PM

                    Well it apparently makes economic sense for a certain doughnut chain that will remain nameless to protect the guilty to ship some of their baked goods from Ireland to the west coast of Canada (and no I'm not exaggerating), Brooklyn to Toronto hardly seems extreme.

                    1. re: bytepusher
                      kwass Jul 19, 2013 03:21 PM

                      Well when you put it that way... :)

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                        GoodGravy Jul 19, 2013 10:12 PM

                        So I can get the same pies and cookies in the NYC Milk Bar as the Toronto one at basically the same price despite the extra 500 miles they have to travel? Sounds like a bargain when you put it that way.

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            callitasicit Jul 19, 2013 07:04 AM

            I was in NY about a week ago and visited this place. Tiny space, packed full of young people looking to get their crack pie fix. I tried the fruity cereal milkshake which was very good and the crack pie which I thought was a rip off for $5, tiny slice that tasted like sweet butter. If this place is not going to sell ice cream and milkshakes, I won't be going there personally.

            1. BokChoi Jul 19, 2013 07:19 AM

              @callitasicit - that is pretty much my thought summed up on Momofuku in general. Do not really understand the magic, but maybe I am just missing something. The childhood memories brought back from the taste of cereal milk though was fun and nostalgic though.

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              1. re: BokChoi
                callitasicit Jul 19, 2013 07:55 AM

                Spot on BokChoi! The shake I had reminded me of fruity pebbles in milk. I would go back for that occasionally but not for the "crack" pie lol.

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                  BokChoi Jul 21, 2013 06:15 AM

                  I may also have left with a bad taste in my mouth after falling for the tourist line in NYC and paying over $8 for some Taiwanese pork buns.

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                  CarNut Jul 19, 2013 10:45 AM

                  Could always try making your own -http://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/20...

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                  disgusti Jul 19, 2013 10:57 AM

                  holy the comments section of that article is especially unbearable, even for the toronto star, even for a comment section

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                    afong56 Jul 21, 2013 07:03 AM

                    not willing to line up for this milk bar. . .walked into a deserted milk bar in nyc a few years back, tried their crack pie (must be a big deal for americans who aren't used to a heritage of butter tarts or tart au sucre) and found it solidly mediocre. had a cup of stumptown coffee (it was good as always--not sure if that's what they still serve there) that was better than the pie.

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                      5andman Jul 22, 2013 04:13 PM

                      Plenty of better pastry option in the city (I assume)

                      1. jlunar Jul 23, 2013 08:46 AM

                        Can't say I was excited over any of the Milk Bar offerings when I was in NYC, so I don't think I'll be making it over for much in Toronto. A friend makes a really awesome version of their Compost Cookie though, so I may pick one up for comparison's sake.

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                          MeMeMe Jul 23, 2013 09:25 PM

                          Anyone been yet? Do they have the cereal milk ice cream? I had it in NYC and it truly is delish.

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                            callitasicit Jul 23, 2013 09:35 PM

                            No milk or ice cream at this store.

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                              GoodGravy Jul 24, 2013 08:58 AM

                              Not much of a milk bar w/ no actual milk or ice cream offered.

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                            limitedtimeoffer Jul 30, 2013 11:48 AM

                            funny, many waste lots of money at starbucks on drinks that are marginal at best but dump on a higher end bakery? [confused] cookies were nice when i had one with my combo noodle lunch the other day.

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                              JennaBean Jul 30, 2013 11:56 AM

                              Tried this last weekend. Crack pie was ok. Kinda reminds me of the sugar pie of my childhood. Got an assortment of cookies and not a single one was finished. All ended up in the trash after a bite or two. Too much sugar and for me a cookie dough kind of a thing going on that I don't enjoy at all.

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                                disgusti Jul 30, 2013 03:12 PM

                                was in this hood last night for a second so i hopped in to check out the "milk bar" space... they should've called it the milk closet or something but i digress

                                didn't have crack pie available by the slice yesterday (something about didn't receive their shipment yadda yadda, i could care less if they ship in their product as long as it's same day and we're not experiencing a substantial quality drop, but at least have your advertised selection available!) so i have yet to try it here. i doubt it's any different than it is in new york.

                                scored a corn cookie, blueberry and cream cookie, and the compost cookie. i was gonna share but i iced that corn cookie before i got back to my bike. super dense, super sugary, a very... 3/4 cooked, thick feel in the centre, which i'm all for. it was intensely sweet but it hit the spot, not something i'll eat every day but once in a while, i'm glad to know it's available haha. compost cookie was ok, less super-fucking-good but not bad, i mean i'll take it over tim horton's or something. i don't eat a ton of baked goods so. gonna try the other one later i'm sure it'll be tasty though

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                                  Pantz Jul 30, 2013 03:57 PM

                                  I tried them last week. Really liked the crack pie, quite close to pecan pie (without nuts) but with flavour similar to condensed milk.

                                  Tried all the cookies. Found them all to be very rich and sweet.

                                  With all the baked goods being refrigerated, none of them are at their best coming directly out of the store. The cookie dough texture is very apparent and is not ideal with the cookies sweetness and richness.

                                  I found the cookies all need to be reheated to be edible. Not even leaving them to get to room temperature improved them. My preferred method was 5 to 10 minutes in a low toaster oven on parchment paper. At that point, texture improved immensely and they got crispy/chewy.

                                  Needing this kind of extra step might be a deal breaker for some, for me not so much. On the other hand, my better half makes a better compost cookie - Captain crunch, pretzels, potato chips and dark chocolate chunks and vegan to boot. I was so surprised when the official Milk Bar version came off lackluster in comparison.

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                                  bytepusher Jul 30, 2013 04:12 PM

                                  There has been much comment about the small space, I wanted to refresh my memory before I commented and got to do so this weekend (I was at Ma Peche for a cocktail class with the Booker and Dax guys) and I can say with authority that the Toronto version is physically a bit larger than the midtown location in the hallway outside Ma Peche.

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                                  1. re: bytepusher
                                    limitedtimeoffer Jul 31, 2013 06:10 AM

                                    who cares about the small space? can you taste small space?

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                                    magic Jul 31, 2013 05:55 PM

                                    I thought the crack pie was super tasty!

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                                      julesrules Feb 21, 2014 11:02 AM

                                      Well I finally stopped in and was surprised at the large quantities they have. Makes me wonder just how often they are shipping stuff in, because I can't imagine they're moving that much product quickly. I had thought they said "daily" but if so, they've now changed the website verbiage to "fresh" shipped. The room is also slightly chilled, so I doubt eating anything right away is going to give ideal flavour. I'm too full of ramen and want my treats at room temp, but I did have a compost cookie earlier this month at Winterlicious and I actually prefer my own results from their recipe. Mine are gooier (and fresher, they don't last long...)

                                      They have corn powder, if anyone is still looking for that to make crack pie etc.

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                                      1. re: julesrules
                                        canadianbeaver Feb 21, 2014 08:01 PM

                                        Yup, give it two hours and they thaw to be gooey. Better results!

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