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Favorite Defunct Monmouth County Restaurant

We were talking last night over drinks at The Fromagerie and started talking about all of our old favorite spots that have gone away while The Fromage still stands

Consensus was most missed long time gone was The Pear Tree in Rumson and Connor's Hotel and we would soon be talking about BAT and Doris & Ed's the same way.

Periwinkles in Sea Bright and The Quay were both spoken of fondly as well as Mumford's in Long Branch, The Peninsula and The Waterfront Café in Sea Bright

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  1. Carly, I'm so with you as to The Quay, Mumfords (was so so good) and the P House to a lesser extent along with Long John's.

    Losing BAT hurts. Loved Joe's rib sticking comfort food in the fall and winter.

    1. Beasty Burger in Red Bank

      Mad Greek in Hazlet

      1. The Quay and the Little Kraut .

        1. Hook Line and Sinker....man I miss those burgers.

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            1. J. Scott's on Broad St. in Red Bank (about the same era as Mumford's). Joe & Maggie's. Regina's Italian in Atlantic Highlands. Monkee Hill Bar off the back of the Union House for a couple Summers (lord, if that place had been open year round I'd not have survived...). Santa Fe Cafe in Freehold. Bayou Cafe in Manasquan (when run by Chef Tim).

              FWIW back in the mid - late 90s I had a hobby of translating restaurant menus to HTML (This was before restaurants had websites). Many of them are in the Monmouth County area:


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              1. re: equal_Mark

                Ah Reginas....good call. They did have some great pizza.

                Romeos in port monmouth had some good cheese steaks too.

                Hofbrauhaus was a cool spot....not the greatest food but a great location and definitely a fun atmosphere....especially during October.

                1. re: equal_Mark

                  Couldn't agree more about Tim Paris's Bayou.

                  1. The American Pizza Kitchen, Shrewsbury Ave, Tinton Falls NJ.

                    The Manhattan Steakhouse Rt. 35 Oakhurst, NJ

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                    1. re: jrvedivici

                      American Pizza Kitchen -- that is/was more recently CJ McLoone's? If so, I remember that place fondly.. not haute cuisine by any means, but a good casual place.

                      1. re: drongo

                        Yes that was the location. Excellent fried calamari and the best pasta dishes/Italian for $10-$15 you could find. Loved the open kitchen and just an all around great family casual restaurant.

                      2. re: jrvedivici

                        Does anyone remember Ocean's 20(?) in Long Branch? I don't recall the name, maybe Park(?), in Manasquan. It was an Italian place with Sushi.


                        With regards to the Manhattan Steakhouse....one of the first posts I participated here on Chowhound was on MSH.

                        You may enjoy the read....


                        1. re: fourunder

                          Geeze you didn't have to trash the place! Thanks for peeing all over my favorite defunct memory! Lol

                        2. re: jrvedivici

                          I thought I was the only one who still misses American Pizza Kitchen! I had a weekly lunch date w/ mom there when I was a kid. Nothing earth shattering but it was consistently good.
                          The other day I was wishing Everybody's Cafe in Wall was still around...which was the sister restaurant to the also defunct Eurasian Eatery in Red Bank.
                          I also miss The Ritz bakery in Manasquan. They had the best bear claws and almond horns!!

                          1. re: doggiedoc

                            The Ritz was, in it's day, the best bakery anywhere on the Shore.

                        3. Caspita! Cafe, Rt 34 in Aberdeen was our favorite restaurant for several years. Bakery - coffee shop during the day and a wonderful restaurant at night.

                          1. Bayshore Charlies Seafood Restaurant, Fair Haven
                            Lil Masters Grille, also in Fair Haven

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                            1. re: HillJ

                              Eurasian Eatery, Red Bank
                              (mostly under the original owner-although the new owners did their best to recreate the recipes)

                              Saigon II Restaurant, Lincroft
                              really enjoyed the lunch crowd and the rolls, hot pots!
                              (Which now operates under Pho Le, Red Bank but isn't quite the same as SII)

                              Cobblestone Diner for late night egg sandwiches
                              (Which now operates under a diff name, same familyowners, but diff menu)

                              1. re: HillJ

                                -1 Cobblestone! Ugghhh never liked that place! Sorry!

                                Have you tried the new incarnation of it?

                                1. re: jrvedivici

                                  I had a funny feeling the Cobblestone would be met with a few -1! I can't say I experienced the full menu but those late nights when I found myself on the hwy heading to RB to crash, I enjoyed the eggs. I haven't been to the place since the rename/new menu...but eventually I will.

                                  1. re: HillJ

                                    I don't mean to bash them it was never bad, but never good either. It would never make a favorite list of mine. I prefer both the All Seasons and Americana Diners each about a mile away from the Cobblestone.

                                    I'll try the new place too but I don't have high hopes! Maybe they will prove me wrong!

                                    1. re: jrvedivici

                                      I've been to both the All Seasons and Americana many x's over say 20 years. But, in both cases timing is so important. I won't wait 30 mins or better for local diner food, no matter how well prepared because I'm usually making a pit stop on my way elsewhere. The crowded, limited spaces you wind up parking & waiting at both of these diners, turns me off so I tend to drive by if the lots are already full.

                                      But, the rice pudding at All S's and the coffee @ Americana get a nod.

                                      1. re: HillJ

                                        Hahahaha I love the fact Cobblestone is one of your defunct favorite locations not because it was good, but simply because you could get a seat without waiting!

                                        Lol the fact they were the worse in the area and least busy of the three worked in their favor! I think that's the oxi-moron restaurant management philosophy.

                                        Let's be worse than our competition so when people don't want to wait for quality, they can get immediate seating here for Kwality!

                                        Come to the Cobblestone Diner where we put the K in Kwality! Lol

                                        1. re: jrvedivici

                                          No Jr, before you get all warm & fuzzy-I did say I liked their eggs. You are the funny one.

                              1. Bay Ave Trattoria- a victim of Sandy :(

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                                1. Mike and Nellys had some good steaks.

                                  1. Ray's Italian Seafood in Keyport. It was in the parking lot of a marina, most recently the home of the Sandy destroyed Red Sky Café. (Not related to the Ray's in Colts Neck, Long Branch, Little Silver)

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                                    1. re: drubenero

                                      Come to think of it, our one & only experience with Red Sky Cafe (now closed due to the hurricane) was a very nice crab meat egg scramble and lovely crab eggs benedict. Never had the chance to return. Their website still states they are closed.

                                      1. re: drubenero

                                        Do you mean the Ray's that had picnic tables for seats? In what was pretty much a hut? I have fond memories of that place!

                                        1. re: MichelleM131

                                          That's the one! The salt & pepper shakers were little beer bottles with holes punched in the top too. By far the best Italian Seafood I've ever had.

                                      2. oh how I miss The Clam Hut in Atlantic Highlands. The original with Bob, the owner, sauntering around with a cocktail and gravelly smoker voice.

                                        They had the best lobster specials - twins & triples. And the steamers! So generous. We'd head there after a day at the beach club in Sea Bright and play video games and run around the docks waiting for our name to be called.

                                        Good times.

                                        {they sold it, tried to go upscale, was never the same}

                                        1. So many favorite places have fallen by the wayside.

                                          Doris & Ed's was always a family favorite. Thank god Jim gave me their lobster bisque recipe. Always the most wonderful hospitality.

                                          Zelbe's. Belmar. Lived on their fried clams for many a summer.

                                          Joe & Maggie's. Loved every meal there.

                                          The Pear Tree for special occasions.

                                          There was a seafood restaurant in the Highlands right by a ferry stop, with boats on the hard in the parking lot, and up the block from Doris & Ed's. Can't remember their name, but do recall great seafood.

                                          Hook, Line & Sinker.

                                          There was a Mongolian Wok place in Red Bank for a while. Loved the lunches there.

                                          Thompson's Fish & Chips, while they were in Sea Bright. Now all locations gone. Sad. So tough to get authentic fish & chips- even up in Kearny & Lyndhurst.

                                          Honorable Mention: A bit far afield, but Lundy's in Sheepshead Bay. Went there for decades with 3 generations of my family. Now I go there for Turkish coffee as it's been reincarnated as Masal Cafe. That cavernous space brings back such memories. I even get to sit by the same column I sat by in the 1960's.

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                                            1. re: carlylecat

                                              Hope you enjoy. This happens to be in my top 10 of all time favorite restaurant items. Many thanks to the wonderful Jim Filip, for this recipe, as well as the wonderful treatment he and everybody gave us, during my parent's memorial. (Held at D&E.)

                                              DORIS & ED’S LOBSTER BISQUE

                                              *NOTE: This recipe calls for frozen lobster meat. Do not substitute fresh, as the liquid produced when thawing frozen canned lobster is essential to the bisque.

                                              Serves 16- obviously some proportioning can be performed.

                                              Three 11.3-ounce cans of frozen* lobster meat thawed, reserving liquid
                                              1-1/2 sticks (3/4 cup) unsalted butter
                                              3/4 cup all-purpose flour
                                              1-1/2 teaspoons fine sea salt
                                              1/2 teaspoons cayenne, or to taste
                                              8 cups (2 quarts) half-and-half
                                              1/4 cup medium-dry Sherry such as Sandeman Amontillado

                                              1. Coarsely chop lobster meat.
                                              2. In a heavy kettle (about 6-quart) melt butter over low heat.
                                              3. Stir in lobster meat and reserved liquid and sweat, covered, over low heat,
                                              stirring occasionally, about 25 minutes.
                                              4. Stir in flour, salt, and cayenne and cook over low heat stirring constantly,
                                              10 minutes.
                                              5. In a large saucepan heat half-and-half just until it “smiles” (barely simmers;
                                              do not let boil).
                                              6. Add half-and-half and Sherry to lobster mixture and cook, stirring, at a bare
                                              simmer, 10 minutes (do not boil).
                                              7. Bisque may be made 2 days ahead and cooked completely before being
                                              chilled, covered. Reheat bisque over low heat, stirring until hot (do not boil).
                                              8. Makes about 16 cups

                                                1. re: JohnGaltJr

                                                  I can't help but question the lack of any tomato product what so ever from this recipe. I have never seen or heard of any bisque made without some form of tomato.

                                                  All lobster bisque have a light pink color to them, the only thing this recipe has is cayenne pepper which isn't going to be enough to taint the color of the other ingredients. I could also understand if there was perhaps a lot of paprika....what his a white bisque? Similar to a chowder? I'm very curious.

                                                  I don't recall every having the bisque at Doris and Ed's but my all time favorite was at The Tavern on the Green.

                                                  1. re: jrvedivici

                                                    This looks like the same recipe they published in 2005: http://dorisandeds.com/recipes/DorisE...

                                                    They have a boatload of recipes on the website: http://dorisandeds.com/recipes.shtml

                                                    May be a good idea to look for things of interest while the site is still up.

                                                    1. re: drongo

                                                      Here's a photo of their bisque. It was always my favorite. Jim gave me a printout one day, and I copied it exactly (obviously the identical recipe) - so this confirms that they didn't add any tomato product- but they did drizzle something (oil?) on top (not mentioned in the recipe) soooo, looks like there still are some secret ingredients. The former D&E head chef chef (Tom Donohoe) has a new restaurant that seems _very_ interesting, so perhaps after eating there a few times I might presume to ask him about it.

                                                      Thanks for the link! There are so many recipes from there I used to love, and now can save. Like the risottos. I downloaded them all.

                                                      1. re: JohnGaltJr

                                                        Traditional Bisque would be served with either some additional sherry or a dollop of cream to be placed on top of the bisque once served. Again, I've never heard of or seen oil used for this purpose.

                                                        Thanks for sharing the recipe and the picture......I am not a big recipe following kind of guy....but I just might have to give this a try sometime, I'm very intrigued.

                                                        Excuse me if I'm wrong but it seems as if the picture supplied does show a red/pink color around the edge correct? It looks as if cream was floated on the top with the true bisque color underneath. I'm fascinated by this now! lol

                                                        1. re: jrvedivici

                                                          You are correct about the coloration around the edge of the bowl- which may very well have been the sherry. Or maybe it was extra cream added for service in the center. Obviously there is something going on that's not in the recipe. All I can remember was that (to me) this was just about the best soup/bisque I have ever tasted- right up there with the pan roasts at Grand Central Oyster Bar, and the bisque at the also late, lamented Gage & Tollner. It was not a classic French lobster bisque flavor- which I just had at Le Rivage in Manhattan- which was excellent as it is done there. D&E's bisque was so very thick, almost like egg nog. This is killing me. Must. Cook. Soon.

                                                          1. re: JohnGaltJr

                                                            Yeah this whole topic now is starting to make me salivate thinking of a good bisque. Lobster Bisque to me is similar to ordering veal at a restaurant, unless I know it's good, I stay away. I love veal.....but I disdain bad or average veal, I won't order it unless I'm very confident in a restaurants ability to deliver a quality product.

                                                            Lobster Bisque is the same way.......I can see it on a menu 10x's but I will only order it 1 or 2 of those times and only if I'm confident it will be quality. I can't stand a mediocre or bad bisque. lol

                                                            1. re: jrvedivici

                                                              I know exactly how you feel. Nothing is worse than slimy, clammy, stringy veal under breading. But then again I feel that about almost every food group. I always try to solicit neighborhood restaurant recommendations from long-time residents that I encounter, seek out actually, and especially those of the same ethnicity. But I will still try a walk-in if I see some place that looks like it has some promise. Better to have bisqued and lost, than never to have bisqued at all.

                                                        2. re: JohnGaltJr

                                                          What is Tom Donohoe's restaurant name and location?

                                                          1. re: carlylecat

                                                            End of Elm in Morristown. Small plates it seems. And interesting cocktails too. The menu looks very intriguing. I do remember always liking how this chef alternated between great presentations of the old classics and also had an interesting and well-executed vision of his own. Now if only chef Michele Miele from Gino would surface.

                                              1. Gianna's which was located in Atlantic Highlands. John cooked some incredible Italian dishes. I especially miss his balsamic calamari appetizer.

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                                                1. re: J M S

                                                  Thanks! I remember the stuffed flounder- (boring, I know) done well above average, as well as the fireplace in the fall and winter, and the north-westerly view at sunsets.

                                                  1. re: JohnGaltJr

                                                    If you are looking for an excellent stuffed flounder I would strongly recommend Jimmy's in Asbury Park.

                                                    1. re: jrvedivici

                                                      Thanks! Always on the lookout for "old classic" shore fair. Yet another reason to lament Doris & Ed's, with their "The Shore Yesterday" and "The Shore Today" halves of the menu to choose from.

                                                  2. I haven't thought about The Peninsula in years--it was a favorite summertime place to hang out and have a drink.

                                                    And there was another Cobblestones (not a diner) about a thousand years ago up on Hwy 35 in Middletown, a very favorite place. They served a pretty wonderful steak with a hundred tiny sauteed mushrooms scattered over the top. I think it is a Gloria Nilsson agency now. It was sort of across the street from another favorite--for very different reasons--The Oasis. Great place to hang out, great pizza.

                                                    I do miss the old Clam Hut in Highlands, too; wonderful casual atmosphere, great steamers, great smelts and lobster. It was the end of an era when the daughter of the original owner died and the family sold. It was everything that Bahr's should have been and never was.

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                                                    1. re: Deb Van D

                                                      My memories of the Clam Hut when I was a kid in the 60s, running out on the docks to check out the traffic on the river and see what folks had caught that day while the parents had drinks.

                                                      It seemed every other year they would enclose the latest outdoor deck and extend another one further out into the river....

                                                      Recent image of the clam hut:

                                                      1. re: equal_Mark

                                                        A sad picture, indeed, although less in a way of missing what it had become over the past several years. I wont miss the food.

                                                        I remember as kids being set off into fits of giggles when ordering lobster. The servers would ask how we wanted it cooked: "BR or BO?"

                                                    2. I can't say that the food was great, but a place I used to enjoy for a beer and a bite to eat (and to watch the river) was the Careless Navigator... long closed and the site now taken over by the new bridge.

                                                      In a similar vein was the Sand Bar Inn in Union Beach -- I lived about 100 yards away, so that was my local pub. It changed owner (and name) and then last year became a victim of Sandy.

                                                      1. In West End Long Branch, Max's (NOTHING like the existing Max's hot dog place,) the Bull Pen for great burgers, and Joe's Inkwell (the original old building with head-shop out front and the silliest menu of late-night food that somehow satisfied;) farther up, of course the Quay and the original (best gotten-to-by boat) Clam Hut. I see someone mentioned the Little Kraut - I think the last time I was there was at least 30 years ago and it was already in decline... Burgers were great at several of the bar-restaurants that occupied that location built up on the sea-wall in Sea Bright... JM's RiverEdge for the two seasons (79 and 80?) that the late Tony Marsalla was cooking there... going south, Christie's and Gallegers (for the popovers) at the Asbury Circle...

                                                        1. Does anyone remember the Fox & Hounds in Colts Neck?

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                                                          1. re: chefjimmc

                                                            Yupper. That was the successor to the Happy Apple Inn. I know, I'm starting to date myself here.

                                                            1. re: chefjimmc

                                                              Here's an old ad for the Fox & Hounds http://matawan.ididigital.com/TheInde...

                                                              It says opposite Delicious Orchards but I think that address (29 Rt 34) is on other side of 537?

                                                              1. re: drongo

                                                                Just out of curiosity, you just happened to have a copy of the May 9th 1984 The Independent laying around on your coffee table.

                                                                1. re: jrvedivici

                                                                  Yep, that's right.

                                                                  Actually, I just googled Fox & Hounds, Colts Neck. I've lived in Colts Neck since 1992 but don't remember this place.

                                                                  (As an aside, the first thing I thought about when I saw the name was "how many hounds?"... when I was a child in England we had a game when travelling which was that when one saw a pub from the car you'd get a number of points equal to the number of legs in the name of the pub -- so Fox & Hound would get you 2 x 4 = 8 points. But Fox & Hounds would lead to quite an argument...)

                                                                  1. re: drongo

                                                                    Although you beat me to the area by 2 years I have no recollection of The Fox and Hounds. I assume it is the old IL Cavalini location?

                                                                    Just out of curiosity ever step foot in the Green Meadow? Know anyone who has?

                                                                    1. re: jrvedivici

                                                                      No... 21 years years in Colts Neck and I never was tempted to go to Green Meadows. I've always thought of it as a place to take my Grandma... but my two Grandmas have been dead 25 and 35 years.

                                                                      1. re: drongo

                                                                        Exactly, pretty much the same answer I get from everyone I ask. So how in the world does that place stay open? Colts Neck does NOT have a sufficient Grand Mom population to support it! It's a mystery to me!

                                                                  2. re: jrvedivici

                                                                    ;-)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) (to jrvedivici)

                                                              2. Can anyone remember the name of the Mexican restaurant (or the one prior) that was in the building before Nicholas (in Middletown)? They made some awesome chili.

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                                                                1. re: jfedorko

                                                                  I believe it was Three Amigos

                                                                  I can still picture the sign with the yellow background and the three guys in their hats

                                                                  1. re: carlylecat

                                                                    Hmmmmm you are 100% spot on with the sign, but the name doesn't seem to ring accurate. Uggggghhh Los Amigos? I don't think it was the Three Amigos I would remember the reference to the movie.

                                                                    1. re: jrvedivici

                                                                      There is an item on ebay that is a matchbook from the restaurant - it was just called Amigos the phone number was 530-TACO - no need for an area code then!
                                                                      There was only one guy in a hat on the logo on the matchbook cover


                                                                      1. re: jrvedivici

                                                                        I think it was Los Amigos too. Perhaps the just plain Amigos name was an earlier incarnation?

                                                                        Edit: Here's a site that lists it as Los Amigos: http://www.jerseymenus.com/menus.php?...

                                                                    2. re: jfedorko

                                                                      Thank you! What an incredible resource you guys are! Now, if anyone knows of a comparable chili that would really complete the deal, lol!

                                                                    3. In the 80s, there was a steakhouse called "LT's" in Brielle (Chrlie Brown's property). It was owned by Lawrence Taylor and decorated with Giants memorabilia, served giant slabs of beef and the classic sides, and had a cool circular barroom with tables in it.

                                                                      To an adolescent boy, getting to go with Dad to LT's was about the greatest thing imaginable.

                                                                      Another one was the Drawbridge in Manasquan. It was also a classic steakhouse. Like What's Your Beef, they let you stand at the window and select the size of your cut.

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                                                                      1. re: MGZ

                                                                        Back in January of this year I had a casual business meet and greet with a company which LT is a partner. We met for drinks at Rooney's in Long Branch, and after the "business" was discussed we hung out the rest of the night. It was a truly unique experience to spend time with someone you idolized as a child.

                                                                        I've heard many stories over the years of how arrogant he was etc., I'm happy to report that he was as "regular Joe" as can be. I imagine the combination of it being somewhat a business meeting, along with the troubles he has had over the years, might have mellowed him although as the night and drinks led on......he did start to loosen up a bit. lol

                                                                        A couple of observations; his favorite drink? Scotch and Milk, no lie. Trying to follow his lead I ordered one as well (after an uncomfortable moment when he initially ordered it and I laughed thinking it was a joke) I can attest it is a horrible combination.

                                                                        Second thing.......by all standards I'm a "large man". Standing a tad under 6' 4" and a tad over 300lbs nobody has ever used the terms, petite, fragile or frail to describe me. Mind you I do not claim to be "in-shape" but under the padding the past decade or two life has added to my mid section there is still the frame of a man who has spent endless hours in the gym, sacked a few QB's and spent a very athletic life. LT and I stand about the same height.....he is 16 years my senior (approximately 59/60 years old)......he is a solid 250lbs......when I went to shake his hand I made a conscious effort to make sure I shook my childhood idols hand like a man!! Shoot my hand into his......firm grip.....eye contact......and a deliberate up and down shake, no more than two times.

                                                                        That at least was the plan.

                                                                        The reality was I stepped towards him....he extended his hand.....I shot my hand in.....maintained eye contact......I used a firm grip......and when I went to "shake" his hand in the normal up and down motion of a handshake.......nothing. Like trying to shake hands with a carved marble statue of a Greek God, there was nothing.....as I made the first effort to raise his hand slightly with mine to initiate the "shaking" motion, my effort was met with a firm resistance, that made me realize if he wanted to he could yank my arm with such strength he could probably rip it off and bludgeon me with it. It was truly amazing in that one second it takes to initiate a handshake the strength can be exhibited in that moment. His arm was like a solid extension of his body and as he felt my effort to move his hand with mine, a coy smile crossed his face as he released my hand. Well played Mr. Taylor, I know my place.

                                                                        All in all a nice guy (speaking strictly from a fan and business meeting perspective, yes he has many demons in life, I know) and I look forward to another meeting with him some day soon.

                                                                        1. re: jrvedivici

                                                                          His company is doing the renovation of our building and he has been incredibly visible, friendly, helpful and is really a unique and engaging individual.

                                                                          Glad you have had the same experience I have.

                                                                          1. re: carlylecat

                                                                            LOL I bet I know where you live! Yes, he is a partner in a commercial construction company after Sandy they were in the area soliciting business for large damage repair and have picked up a few jobs.

                                                                            I'm happy to hear your experience's with him were similar to mine.

                                                                          2. re: jrvedivici

                                                                            Sorry J....but like the MSH, I'm going to have to disagree with you on the subject of LT from first hand experience. Back around 88 or 89, I was invited guest to play in a American Cancer Society Charity Golf event at Hackensack Golf Club....LT was in my group. This is when he was supposedly a good golfer and before all his demons have come to light. For the entire round, he did not engage in any attempt to socialize with anyone in the group....and for the record, he was not a good golfer by any means at the time....and he also did not play the game as intended.

                                                                            A year later,I had decided to play a round of golf at Spook Rock Golf Course, located in nearby Airmont/Suffern,NY, just over the NJ border. This was also a place LT like to frequent. Spook Rock at one time was on the original lists for the Top 25 Public Golf Courses in the US, so it was a popular place to play. On this particular day, I had chosen to walk, as I was in much better shape almost a quarter of a century ago.......coming up the 9th hole, LT was standing just off the green. I had clearly recognized him...but I couldn't imagine why he was standing there. Dare I think he wanted to greet me from our earlier game? Turns out he did not recognize me...but instead without any pleasantries or a simple *excuse me*, he barks out....*Did you find my Super bowl Ring out there*? I respond, Sorry I did not. Without any pause, he barks back, * Go out there and look for it and if you find it , bring it to me*......I look at him and reply.....Go fu*k yourself LT and if I find it, I'm keeping it*! In my eyes, he''l always be a piece of Sh*t.

                                                                            btw....at the old NFL Classic held at Upper Montclair Country Club, I also witnessed his lack of class with the fans, especially when kids asked for his autograph.

                                                                            For the record, I have a nice story about a future owner in the NFL if you want to hear about it.

                                                                            Maybe LT has been humbled by age and his misfortunes.

                                                                            1. re: fourunder

                                                                              From my original post;
                                                                              "I've heard many stories over the years of how arrogant he was etc.,"

                                                                              Your closing line;
                                                                              "Maybe LT has been humbled by age and his misfortunes."

                                                                              My point exactly, I can't tell you if it was him schmoozing for business or if he has been humbled by his misfortunes in life, however during the time we spent together he was extremely
                                                                              ordinary with no air of arrogance about him. Based on what Carlycat said above, I do hope he is a changed man. (even if his legal problems seem to continue)

                                                                              I would enjoy any story regarding the NFL you would care to share.

                                                                              ***(Edit based on Mod's comment below my email is on my profile Four)

                                                                              1. re: fourunder

                                                                                Folks, we know restaurant nostalgia can bring up all sorts of old stories, but we hope people can try to remain focused on food-related nostalgia. Thanks!

                                                                                1. re: The Chowhound Team

                                                                                  The Chow Team are obviously not NY Giants fans!!!!

                                                                                  1. re: The Chowhound Team

                                                                                    Does the inclusion of hot chocolate and a sandwich count as being food related?

                                                                                      1. re: jrvedivici

                                                                                        I just sent you the story, but I could not send it with the address in your profile. I had to omit the http://,so let me know if you received. If the mods respond hot chocolate and a sandwich meets requirements....maybe we can post it for the others..

                                                                                        let me know if you get a laugh......

                                                                            2. When I first moved to Elizabeth in '85 I was often taken to a place called Evelyn's, which I was told was a clone of a place with the same name in Monmouth County. Does anyone know about that?
                                                                              The seafood at the Elizabeth location was pretty good, until it wasn't, and then it was gone.

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                                                                              1. re: OGguy

                                                                                There was an Evelyn's in Belmar.

                                                                                Btw, celebrity chef Tom Colicchio got his start at the Evelyn's in Elizabeth http://www.biography.com/people/tom-c...

                                                                                Edit: found this snippet with a little history of the location where Evelyn's used to be in Belmar:
                                                                                507 Main at Shark River Brick Oven Pizza, Restaurant and Patio Bar in Belmar, New Jersey There have been several restaurants in this location prior to 507 Main at Shark River, including Evelyn’s, Jack Baker’s, Amici’s and Big Ed’s BBQ. We open at 4pm Monday through Friday and at three on the weekends & our Patio is open seasonally http://businessfinder.nj.com/46779/50...

                                                                              2. I miss the pies and salad bar at Gertrude Browns

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                                                                                1. re: Bossa_Nova

                                                                                  While I agree completely those were the only reasons to miss them. Take into consideration Charlie Browns maintained a decent salad bar and it's just the Pies.

                                                                                  1. re: Bossa_Nova

                                                                                    I miss Gertrude Brown's chicken pot pies.

                                                                                  2. There used to be a funky bbq joint in Englishtown, close to raceway park. This was a long time ago (60's-70's). They had the best rotisserie chix, potatoes and cole slaw. Does anyone remember the name? Or a comparable place now?

                                                                                    1. At the Porta Chowdown yesterday we were discussing the Monmouth County shore scene (surprise!) when the topic of South Belmar/Lake Como came up, and with it the memory of Armadillo Crossing and the rather tumultuous connection between owner Bryan and the psycho-b***ch chef Traci, owner of Ragin' Cajun. The Cajun is still Ragin' but the crossing is no more...


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                                                                                      1. re: equal_Mark

                                                                                        I went to the Ragin Cajun several times, and also to her other short-lived place in Belmar. 'Psycho Bitch'? I must have met someone else masquerading as the chef and owner. I think that comment belongs on some private space, not this one.

                                                                                        1. re: OGguy

                                                                                          Actually Traci had a sign posted at the original spot on Main St. in Belmar that stated something to the effect of "Do Not Distract Psycho Bitch Chef," and wore the title proudly. As far as I know she has never operated a restaurant anywhere else than Belmar. I've been covering her exploits there for over ten years. This one was the day before Katrina hit New Orleans...


                                                                                          1. re: equal_Mark

                                                                                            OOH Love String Bean and the Stalkers. Saw them not too long ago at Harrigans on 71.

                                                                                            The first time I went to Ragin Cajun Traci was still on Main Street - sat at the counter and watched her cook, almost a precursor to the in-kitchen chef's table. We've been to the Rt. 35 location several times but not recently.

                                                                                            I believe the South Belmar location was called Tortuga. It was Caribbean themed and she sold the pretty decent homemade hot sauce served there by the bottle.


                                                                                            1. re: missybean

                                                                                              I was going right in for Tortuga... can't believe I got beat! Good call, also on the Main Street location of Rajun' Cajun.

                                                                                              Also have to mention The Farm House in Little Silver, Eurasian Eatery in Red Bank and Chef Ed's in Belmar, along with many others already on the page.

                                                                                              1. re: aklein

                                                                                                I remember a specific meal at the counter at Tortuga where I disobeyed the sign to not distract the Psy*** B**** Chef Traci, at which point she accidentally rubbed her eye after preparing blackening spice for a couple fish filets Serious antics and verbal fireworks ensued...

                                                                                      2. Manhattan Steakhouse...miss that one a lot.

                                                                                        Peacock, still the best Indian food we've ever had in this area. Long Branch.

                                                                                        There used to be a really good BBQ joint in the Home Depot/Taco Bell plaza in Long Branch on Rt 36, don't remember the name though.

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                                                                                        1. re: joonjoon

                                                                                          BBQ joint that served whole turkey legs? Close to the Verizon store? I remember that place it didn't last too long.

                                                                                          Nice to see someone else who appreciated Manhattan Steakhouse!

                                                                                          1. re: jrvedivici

                                                                                            Across the street, where Bubbakoo's is now, used to be "Big Dawgs"

                                                                                            Hot Dogs, burgers, and Cheesesteaks. The guy shaved his own rib eye and had about 100 different combinations of toppings. One of the best cheese steaks I've ever eaten.

                                                                                            One time I was in there and mentioned to him about possibly putting up a website. and He shrugged and said "Heh.. I don't need a website, people know I'm here"

                                                                                            1. re: jrvedivici

                                                                                              Yeah that's the one jr. I really enjoyed the BBQ there, didn't know they had turkey legs tho.

                                                                                              You know Manhattan was one of my faves in the area...miss that one the most. Especially the potato "pancake" dish there. And strangely...the salad.

                                                                                              1. re: jrvedivici

                                                                                                It was called Colonel Muzzy's. I agree. Delicious!

                                                                                            2. While it'll never be mentioned in the same breath as BAT, D&E's or Mumfords, as a great restaurant, a tip of the hat is in order and 'Taps' played for the now gone Adriatic in AP.

                                                                                              Loved their fish and shellfish. Dated and worn out ship that she (Adriatic) was, the food remained top notch till they eventually closed their doors. I actually thought they'd survive with the renaissance. I guess they were so far out of any tourist/visitor's 'sights' when visiting AP.

                                                                                              1. There was a great restaurant in Matawan called Terra Christa's that my family went to for years. Great New American cuisine. Then the owners retired, it became a succession of crappy stuff that would close within a year, and now it's a 25 Burgers. Bums me out.

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                                                                                                1. re: wereboar

                                                                                                  In the plaza with Starbucks at the complete opposite end?

                                                                                                2. My most missed places in no particular order:

                                                                                                  1) Jim's Burger Haven! Nothing like a bacon cheeseburger, grilled cheese, onion rings and a large Mountain Dew for 7 bucks. Nothing like their pancakes either.

                                                                                                  2) Mama Lucia in Red Bank, because it was the first place I discovered my love for linguine and clam sauce as a child.

                                                                                                  3) Carmine's sub shop was briefly in Red Bank and definitely pretty great.

                                                                                                  1. The original Ama in Atlantic Highlands, which moved to Sea Bright. Going to miss Chef Pat's incredible cooking now that he's no longer there!!

                                                                                                    1. trinity in keyport (when chefMD was cooking) followed by manhattan steak house.