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Where to find gamay rouge besides v. Sattui?

j918kny Jul 13, 2013 10:28 PM

The only wine my mom drinks is gammay rouge. Are there any wineries in or around the sf Bay Area that make a gamay?


  1. Liquidsquid Jul 14, 2013 04:37 PM

    Beringer Vineyards Gamay Beaujolais Nouveau North Coast comes out around Thanksgiving. I don't know how they get away from calling it that.

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    1. re: Liquidsquid
      Robert Lauriston Jul 14, 2013 04:44 PM

      I thought they stopped making that some years ago.

      1. re: Liquidsquid
        moto Jul 14, 2013 05:50 PM

        calif manufacturers have been 'borrowing' old world, appellation controlee or denomination d'origine controlee names more than a century now, no ? in this aspect at least (also how they regard g.m.o. food crops) the old world is more sensible.

        1. re: moto
          Robert Lauriston Jul 14, 2013 07:12 PM

          That's mostly of historical interest. Most of the "semi-generic" wine types such as Burgundy, Chablis, and Claret, while still permitted by FTC regulations, have largely faded from the market even at the low end. Champagne, Marsala, Sherry, and Port are still commonly abused.

          The vast majority of contemporary California wines have varietal designations. The law used to allow "Napa Gamay" and "Gamay Beaujolais" but as of 2007 those are banned.

      2. Robert Lauriston Jul 14, 2013 11:22 AM

        V. Sattui's "Gamay Rouge" is chilled to stop fermentation at 1.5% residual sugar.


        That's probably why your mom likes it, so you should probably be looking for off-dry wines rather than Gamay Rouge.

        V. Sattui has been making that wine for over 30 years and it was originally Napa Gamay, which is now supposed to be labeled Valdiguié. Did they really switch to Gamay Noir grapes?

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        1. re: Robert Lauriston
          Melanie Wong Jul 14, 2013 12:39 PM

          This 2010 piece in the SF Chron says it's Valdiguie.

          "Sattui's best-seller is the Gamay Rouge, a sweet and easy-drinking ruby-red rosé made from Valdiguié. "

          1. re: Melanie Wong
            moto Jul 14, 2013 01:45 PM

            according to the Bonne article linked above, wines made from Valdiguie´ and other new world 're-brands' lost the right to use 'gamay' in 2007. Was Bonne mistaken, or did Sattui benefit from some legal 'grandfather' exception or other political/legal favor ?

            1. re: moto
              Robert Lauriston Jul 14, 2013 03:56 PM

              If the wine contains no true Gamay, I'm pretty sure they're in violation of the ATF regulations.

              That article's by Janny Hu, not Jon Bonné.

        2. moto Jul 14, 2013 11:03 AM

          cru Beaujolais (i.e. Fleurie, Morgon, Moulin a Vent, Brouilly, not the nouveau stuff, which is also gamay) from the excellent 2010 vintage is now in the retailers. most of it is reasonably priced relative to the high quality in many of the bottles. gamay grown and vinified in the Beaujolais region is generally considered to reach its peak expression ; of course your mama might prefer calif. cheers

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            absc Jul 14, 2013 09:01 AM

            Try this article from Jon Bonné: http://www.sfgate.com/wine/thirst/art...

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