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ever been mistaken for "southern"??

Think my paternal grandfather's family MIGHT have come up north to SE PA from VA, but not sure. My paternal grandmother was pretty much straight from England "off the boat" as a baby at end of 1800's.

I make crab cakes they way she always did... lotta crab and little cake, shallow fried in bacon grease. Have been asked where from "down south" was she from... south Philly suburbs!?!

"Borrowed" Patti Labelle's potato salad recipe for an end of year teacher luncheon. NOT going remotely Paula D, but was one of only 2-3 "white" teachers in school. Got LOTS of compliments on the PS and heard a few comments... "the white teacher made it"... took it as a total compliment!

At same luncheopn, was ONLY peron in school who had a bottle of HOT SAUCE in my desk for the fried fish! NEVER had that in house growing up.

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    1. re: sunshine842

      I get irritated when my husband teases me about being a Yankee. I'm from Kentucky which I will grant is kind of a border state, but I think of myself as southern. He's from LA (lower Alabama), so practically everyone's a northerner to him.

      1. re: NonnieMuss

        When I got married I had to explain to my new Southern family that just because you come from north of them does not mean you are a Yankee. Yankees are not from Canada.


    2. Not because of my food, but it has happened because of my slow drawl and my chronic use of terms such as "y'all" and "Purt'near".

      1. Sometimes, folk think that I am from the Midwest, or even the UK, though after a few glasses of wine, they usually realize that I am a Southerner - from Mississippi.

        I do not find that a detracting situation, in the least. I am proud of being a "Son of the Old South," and wear that banner with pride.

        Now, with our general familial cuisine, most guests can tell that my wife has deep roots in New Orleans, and then I have them, near-by.

        Having grown up in the Deep South, but having sampled the cuisine from many other Southern areas, we tend to think of ourselves as just "Southern," rather than being too localized.


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        1. re: Bill Hunt

          Hey Hunt. Where in Ms are you from?? My wife was born in Memphis but grew up just over the state line in Nesbit, Ms. It's part of the Greater Hernando area...LOL.
          We were married in Hernando even though we live in Canada.

          Anyway, as you can imagine, it's why I refer to her on here as Mrs. Sippi.


          1. re: Davwud


            I am from Gulfport, MS, and wife is third-generation New Oleanian. Though from different states, NOLA was my "city of ight," growing up, and we took more from it, than any city in MS - from a cultural standpoint, or otherwise.

            We both claim our heritage as "Deep South," but with differences.

            Now, going back some years, my wife could claim to be a member of "GRITS," Girls Raised in the South. They changed their organizational structure to "Girls (and Guys) Raised in the South," so that we both now qualify.


        2. No, and I am Southern. :D People think I sound like I'm from the Midwest. That makes me happy.

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          1. re: DatatheAndroid

            I also am mistaken for Midwest. Born and raised in South Georgia.

          2. I can fry chicken and make biscuits as well as my paternal grandmother, who hailed from Birmingham, AL. But after hearing me speak a single sentence, I can never be mistaken for a southerner. I have never said "y'all" in my life--up here in NYC, we say "you guys". As in, "you guys want some of my grandma's chicken?"

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            1. re: iluvcookies

              Haha! I say you guys and it is a dead give away that I was born a Yankee, as my mother puts it. Here in this part of PA the old timers say y' uns.

              1. re: melpy

                any native new englander would take serious umbrage at a pennsylvanian calling themselves a yankee. hitting mid-nj is "the south" and west of ny/nj is the mid-west. might as well be ohio. ;)

                1. re: hotoynoodle

                  I live in Ohio now, my daddy is from New Orleans, mommy from CT, grew up in CT, my husband is from OH, and I keep telling them that they are Midwest, not Southern, I am Southern by birth, and Yankee by circumstance, wish I was in New Orleans, not Cincinnati

                  1. re: hotoynoodle

                    Considering the location of the Mason-Dixon Line, it doesn't matter what New Englanders think. Anyone from PA IS a yankee.

                      1. re: PotatoHouse

                        only according to those south of the mason-dixon, yeah?

                        1. re: hotoynoodle

                          That's the same reply I received from Mrs. Potato (Maine born and bred).

                        2. re: PotatoHouse

                          As a life long Southerner the Mason Dixon line makes no sense to me...Never has. Never will. ~~ Yeah Yeah I'm familiar with American History. ~~ Are we saying Washington DC is Southern?? I sure as hell hope not!! ~~ Try "South of the Missouri Comprise Line", and you'll be in the ball park.

                          1. re: Uncle Bob

                            Well, many define "The South," by fairly strict guidelines, such as Florida, and Texas, not being part of "The South." Washington, DC, regardless of the geography, has almost never been considered as part of "The South."


                            1. re: Bill Hunt

                              "Washington, DC, regardless of the geography, has almost never been considered as part of "The South."

                              Exactly my point. ~~ Nor is Maryland. ~~ Nothing west of Sabine River is "The South"....it's Texas. ~~ At least the lower half to two thirds of Florida IMO is not The South either.

                              As to the OP's question. Since my family moved into the Territory from the Carolinas in the early spring of 1800, I am always 'mistaken' for a Southerner.

                              1. re: Uncle Bob

                                For that matter, much of Northern Virginia is no longer "The South."

                                  1. re: Bill Hunt

                                    Maryland is culturally and historically "The South". It was a slave state occupied by federal troops for the duration of the war. Some of Southern Maryland and the Eastern Shore are plantation economies to this day. The Mason-Dixon Line is more than a line on the map. There are stark differences in culture, local accents and even weather between MD and PA. DC was until fairly recently a southern city, not unlike Atlanta in that regard. Having spent my formative years in the DC area, I can still detect and pinpoint the various regional accents. There are just fewer natives around nowadays.

                                    1. re: flavrmeistr

                                      No one in My South considers Maryland or DC as "Southern" in any respect...Culturally nor historically. The Mason Dixon Line was a survey to settle some state border disputes. Period. As for "plantation economies".. they exist in South America, the Caribbean, and Africa to this day.

                                      1. re: Uncle Bob

                                        It wasn't actually a state border dispute, it occurred before states existed. the states just happen to follow the same lines.


                            2. re: hotoynoodle

                              Definitely, and I've even heard many people refer to DC as a southern city, particularly bc of the race politics.
                              PA to me is culturally mid-west.

                          2. re: iluvcookies

                            i thought it was "youse guys" from nyc?

                              1. re: coll

                                Yep... you still hear it from the old timers quite a bit.

                          3. my great father had a South African accent and when he would talk fast people always thought he was from "the hills of tennesse"

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                            1. re: girloftheworld

                              I have no idea how that would happen. South Africa sounds not a lick like Tennessee.

                              1. re: sunshine842

                                i know that you know that.. but i guess when people cant place an accent the assume it must be somewhere south...My grandfather says it use to make him so angry. "You are not form around here are you from down south? Applachia?maybe?" It usally would happen when he was in Kansas, Okla, other Midwest states..

                                1. re: girloftheworld

                                  still weird, though.

                                  I'm often guessed as being English when in France...which I can understand, as they just recognize that I have an accent that belies English as my native language, I'm frequently in areas where there aren't a lot of American accents, and the plethora of English accents in the UK.

                                  But misplacing a fellow native speaker? (Full disclosure - I have a hard time separating South Africa from Australia from New Zealand unless they're side by side -- but I can manage "former British colony in the Southern hemisphere....)

                                  1. re: sunshine842

                                    I don't think I've ever heard anyone from Tennessee talk fast. Hell, does anyone from the south talk fast? When I first moved north, everyone told me I talked too slow.

                                    1. re: Bkeats

                                      There is a community outside of NOLA where the natives all sound like they are from Brooklyn in both speech rhythm and accent. It is the oddest thing to hear down in the bayou.

                                      1. re: PotatoHouse

                                        It's not actually down on the bayou or "down the bayou," as people say here (that's a whole other accent/rhythm/cadence--"not "southern either), but the Brooklyn-speak of which you speak is prevalent in New Orleans proper (in certain wards especially) and in areas immediately outside the city limits, and it's because these areas became home to many Italian (and Irish) immigrants during the same period that these folks were settling in NY and other port cities.

                                        Even more interesting, for CH purposes, is how these immigration patterns affected our different cuisines. Hollywood notwithstanding, New Orleanians in general do not have "southern" accents (that is associated more with English-Scottish migration and settling; some linguists claim that Elizabethan speech patterns can still be found in Appalachia), and likewise, our cuisine is not "southern," as it is typically understood--unless of course we get into a sub-category, African-American cooking, where there is a lot of overlap with traditional southern cooking--fried chicken, okra, stewed greens, etc.

                                        1. re: nomadchowwoman

                                          The Elizabethan influence is also found in Eastern North Carolina. My accent is a very muted version of the outerbanks/down east dialect, and many people from outside of NC have a hard time placing and don't believe me when I say I'm from the South.

                                          1. re: nomadchowwoman

                                            I love to hear all the different accents. There are definitely many different southern ways of speaking. I love to hear the other languages still woven in.

                                            1. re: wekick

                                              Language/dialects/accents utterly fascinate me. Almost as much as different cuisines or "foodways."

                                          2. re: PotatoHouse

                                            NO SLEEP TILL
                                            NO SLEEP TILL NOLA!!!!.........

                                            Depending on your age and musical taste will dictate if you get that.

                                            1. re: jrvedivici

                                              I had that cassette (pre-CD technology for you younglings)!!

                                              1. re: PotatoHouse

                                                As did I. Saw them in concert somewhere around 87' or 88' at the Capital Theatre in Passaic NJ....a site which is no longer there.

                                                  1. re: DatatheAndroid

                                                    Once upon a time, in a universe far away, there were .25" tapes, encased in plastic. Those were "cassettes," and were played in devices, designed for them. Those were tape players, but with a difference - they were designed to play the tapes, that were inside the plastic structures. About that time, there were 8-track tapes, also encased in plastic, but instead of being linear, were coaxial by design.

                                                    You had to have been there, to fully understand.


                                                    1. re: Bill Hunt

                                                      I still have a couple of Beta video cassettes, even though I no longer have anything to play them on. The eight tracks however are long gone.

                                                      1. re: coll

                                                        I am with you. Beta tapes, no playback. Cassettes, some playback. Eight-track tapes, well, long gone. VHS, that I can still do.


                                                        1. re: Bill Hunt

                                                          Beta was actually better than VHS, but VHS had longer tapes than Beta and won out. The great thing about 8 tracks was you could listen to more than one song at once, at least until you shoved a matchbook under the tape to get it to play right. Texan by the way, not part of the South as you alluded to earlier.

                                                          1. re: James Cristinian

                                                            Yes, Beta was an improvement, but just never caught on. The same could be said for HD-DVD, which lost to BD (Blur-ray Discs), but then came under the purview of Sony, with a ton of restrictions, and support for only commercial titles (many by Sony), so it has not taken off, the way that DVD-Video did, and is still doing.

                                                            Sometimes it is all about the timing, or perhaps the marketing, or maybe it has something to do with Sony????

                                                            As for 8-Track, there were so very many issues, BUT they were marketed by Lear very well. I had a cassette deck in my '67 XKE, but when I bought a new auto in '73, only 8-tracks were offered. It was not until about the '80s, that one could find built-in cassette decks, and 8-tracks were gone.

                                                            I gave away my 8-track recorder and collection, in about 1985. Should have held onto everything, just for historical purposes.

                                                            It's not unlike very good food items - some just do not stay on the market, where others, that I feel are inferior, have a half-life of a Twinkie - a Gazillion years.


                                                            1. re: Bill Hunt

                                                              I still have a working Beta recorder, possible the last one in the universe. I dont use it to record much anymore, but I still use it to play stuff I recorded in the 80s and copy on to DVD.

                                                              1. re: Fydeaux

                                                                My husband had a recorder, but his friend borrowed it and never returned it. Wonder how much you could get on eBay?

                                              2. re: PotatoHouse

                                                I met a guy from there that sounded like Brooklyn, had to confirm that with New Orleans Native aka my daddy

                                                1. re: PotatoHouse

                                                  I met one of these people while attending a company training class. He claimed to be NOLA born and bred but sounded exactly like a character in a 40's gangster movie. It was fascinating!

                                                  1. re: Pwmfan

                                                    True New Orleans speech is often mis-read as being Brooklyn, or Bronx.

                                                    Regardless of what Hollywood might indicate, it is very, very seldom mistaken for Southern. Now, Baton Rouge, and north, then that is often the "sound of the South," but most folk out in an audience, would never buy that.

                                                    If one studies the vocalizations carefully, they should be able to pick out Georgia, from South Carolina, and North Carolina from Mississippi. Texas can confuse many, as can some of the similar, but different dialects from New Orleans.

                                                    When I get to the Tidewater areas, then I begin to fail horribly, and have to apologize to many.

                                                    Once, in Mississippi, I could usually nail the Gulf Coast, Jackson, maybe Meridian, and then The Delta. Now, they blur, to my brain, with the exception of the Gulf Coast - unless one just moved there from Jackson, or Hattiesburg.

                                                    Also, I could once pick the New Orleans neighborhood, that one grew up in, within a dozen blocks. Not so much anymore, as things have become very scattered.


                                                    1. re: Bill Hunt

                                                      Migration has a lot to do with local speech patterns. New Orleans is a great example. I've heard it said that the influx of northeastern carpetbaggers that swept in during the Union occupation and reconstruction changed the local dialect forever. To my ear, a euphonious blend of North Jersey, the Gulf Coast and Acadiana. I love it.

                                                      The influx of northern job-seekers over the past 30 or so years in DC, Atlanta and even the Triangle cities of NC seem to be de-localizing speech patterns in the younger folks. Historically, the migration patterns were south to north. Loss of industry in the north seems to have reversed those trends.

                                                      Conversely, cities losing population seem to retain them. "Bawl'mer" is hanging tough, for example. Even the newscasters still say "Bawl'mer". Cross the Susquehanna to the east and you start getting into "you'z guys" and "d'hell wi' yuz" territory.

                                                      1. re: flavrmeistr

                                                        Way back when (though more recent than Reconstruction), New Orleans had many regional dialects, even down to the "neighborhood" level.

                                                        As neighborhoods changed, populations moved about more, and then from about Hurricane Betsy, and later, that has been diluted. I doubt that I could tell anyone's neighborhood now. Once, as family members grew up, and married, they still stayed near-by. Now, with such a mobile society, that aspect has rather been shattered.

                                                        Sort of like in my now home city, Phoenix, everyone is from somewhere else. In New Orleans, even among the natives, moving about has contributed to a great deal of homogenization - and then there is Hollywood, that just cannot seem to get it right.

                                                        Though from the Deep South, I still have trouble with some of the speech patterns, and certainly colloquial words, in the mountain areas of TN, NC and even SC. I have to listen carefully - then there is Gullah in SC and GA. I am just lost there.


                                                        1. re: Bill Hunt

                                                          There are some very old dialects still spoken along the southeastern coast. On Ocracoke Island, NC they use words that haven't been in general usage for nearly 300 years, like "mammock". To be "roight mammocked" is to take a good pounding from rough seas, but it can mean anything from enduring an ass-whipping to a long day of hard work. The "Ococker" dialect is relatively unchanged from the time of Blackbeard's capture there in 1718. There are only about six family names on the island, all originating from Bristol or Southampton, England. It's hard to understand these folks when they get talking amongst themselves. Same with Tangier Island, VA and some of the more isolated communities in the lower Chesapeake that have been around since the mid-1600's. These are the dialects of the original southern colonists, nearly intact.

                                                          1. re: flavrmeistr

                                                            there are similar clusters in Appalachia. I find these hidden pockets of ancient dialects fascinating.

                                                            1. re: sunshine842

                                                              Indeed. I worked with a crew of guys from the Shenandoah highlands (Luray, Egypt's Bend VA) some years ago. Couldn't hardly understand a word they said, amongst themselves or individually. They might as well have been Glaswegians.

                                                              1. re: flavrmeistr

                                                                Rhode Island is supposed to have 41 functional accents, and there are definitely swamp Yankees there that are impossible to understand .

                                                                1. re: fara

                                                                  I can't understand anyone from Rhode Island. "Spa", "bubbler", "cabinet"---what are these things?

                                                              2. re: sunshine842

                                                                I agree, and as we spend a fair amount of time in that area of the world, we love to hear those, even if we do not understand everything 100%.


                                                                1. re: sunshine842

                                                                  not food related but have you ever seen the movie Songcatcher Adian Quinn? it is an amazing story about a woman who is trying to presserve music of Appaliachia in its purest form... it always makes me want to go and do with with food in communitiys.

                                                                  1. re: girloftheworld

                                                                    Cool! Thanks -- I'll have to look for it.

                                                                    "I Wonder As I Wander" is one of my favorite carols -- it's traced to Appalachia (just by a quirk) - I've read that the melody follows late 17th/early 18th English music patterns.

                                                                2. re: flavrmeistr

                                                                  Love Ocracoke, too bad I didn't experience the dialect.

                                                                  1. re: fara

                                                                    Go there in the off-season when all the mainlanders are gone. It's a different place.

                                                      2. re: Bkeats

                                                        We were just in Virginia, and yes, they can talk fast, and with a pronounced accent. I had a hard time understanding a few, I'd ask them to repeat, and it would be the same. So, I would just nod and smile.

                                                      3. re: sunshine842

                                                        Just the other day in Jakarta I was assumed to be an Iranian asylum seeker "on my way to New Holland". But a few weeks ago, someone thought I was Korean.

                                                        Shoot, all I know these days is that my blood is still red.


                                                        1. re: BuildingMyBento

                                                          and that's pretty much all that really matters. :)

                                                      4. re: girloftheworld

                                                        If I were your Grandfather, I would have said, 'Yes I'm from the South, South Africa.'

                                                      5. re: sunshine842

                                                        Not at all. Australia, maybe, if you aren't paying attention. But definitely not Tennessee.

                                                    2. People are surprised to hear I'm from the south. I went to school in Yankee land and have spent my career working in many places in the US and abroad. While I occasionally say y'all and ain't, I've completely lost my accent. The southern accent comes out in my cooking or when I've had too much to drink.

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                                                      1. re: Bkeats

                                                        I rarely break out in Southern, although I learned to talk in Tennessee. My maternal grandma was from Notasulga, Alabama. Iove a southern accent, but due to predatory money-grubbing people my favorite aunt and uncle were victimized by I don't much care for a midwestern accent, except for the Chicago accent that several of my favorite cousins and their parents still have.
                                                        I can't seem to keep from saying "dudn't" instead of "doesn't"- where to heck did that come from?

                                                      2. Only when I invite people for dinner in my double-wide

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                                                        1. re: beevod

                                                          You are in tall cotton with a double wide.

                                                          Dear daughter is a Florida Cracker. And does not have what her Texas neighbors consider a southern accent. Due to her not hearing it in the home and having schoolmates from a variety of countries and throughout the USA.

                                                          1. Well, I am from Alabama, but have lived in the Chicagoland area for the last 11 years. (I am 37.)

                                                            My accent used to be country fried, but at one point in the 8th grade I got laughed at in class for how I pronounced 'iron.' "Arn." Embarrassed the shit out of me, so I became a bit self-conscious of my speech and over time developed a more articulate delivery than my biscuit-mouthed brethren, but I still had a decent lick of the Deep South on my tongue.

                                                            After living in the Midwest for a bit, my sister said I pronounced 'sausage differently and that I was turning into a Yankee.

                                                            Now that I've been up here for a decade+, some people say they can't detect an accent at all, while some others can spot my drawl. Had a language teacher a few weeks ago ask me if I was from Alabama/Georgia. She had a good ear.

                                                            Also, I know your post is about food, and I totally ran off on my own tangent. Sorry. I'm bored and rambling.

                                                            1. OP's never been back, so we still don't know if being mistaken for being Southron (yes, I know how I spelled it) is a bad thing or a good thing....

                                                              I'm still not sure, even after reading the post so many times.

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                                                              1. re: sunshine842

                                                                Do we need to establish this before people can participate in this thread? (Evidently, no.) Maybe the OP is one of those people who doesn't feel the need to classify everything as either "good" or "bad" and share their verdict with everyone.

                                                                1. re: DeppityDawg

                                                                  It obviously impacted the OP enough that it prompted him/her to make the post. If it had been perceived as a completely neutral statement, the post probably would not have been made.

                                                                  Trying to understand the OP's POV...it's a little easier to have a discussion when you have some idea what the OP's motivation was.

                                                                  1. re: sunshine842

                                                                    Maybe the OP just thought it was funny and felt like posting. And her question "ever been mistaken for 'southern'??" needs no further explanation (although I really wish she had added "based on the way you cook or eat"). If you have an anecdote to share, you are free to specify "and this made me happy/angry because I believe it is a good/bad thing", but you don't have to.

                                                                    I have no relevant anecdotes, because it would be logically impossible for anyone to mistake me for Southern.

                                                              2. I had a Southern accent before my family relocated from Savannah to northern NY. My mother went to work trying to eradicate the accent. She was a teacher and gave a spelling test and the kids misspelled words because of her accent.

                                                                Most of the time people would have a hard time deciding where I might be from. When we are back down south the accent always returns.

                                                                1. The teachers at my school are always having pot lucks. In Febuary the the Teachers who are African American ave a "soul food"lunch. Well I go to an international baccalaureate school so many of the teachers are not familar with American cusian much less specific regional or cultural so the sign up is thin. One of the teachers always asks me to cook a few dishes. When they ask who made them tells me she says " my little redheaded black souled child"

                                                                  1. Never. In fact, I'm most often mistaken for being Canadian.
                                                                    I'm from Pennsylvania, but here in Arizona, Canadians make up a good portion of the northerners around.
                                                                    I find this to be quite a good thing, because a few local places serve up some damn good poutine!

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                                                                    1. re: alliegator

                                                                      <<but here in Arizona, Canadians make up a good portion of the northerners around. >>

                                                                      But ONLY in the Winter, and then they disappear... [Grin]


                                                                      1. re: alliegator

                                                                        Hey Allie- what part of AZ? I'm guessing Scottsdale, based on my SIL who does interior design and real estate in that general area.

                                                                      2. There is no mistaking that I am born, raised up and live in the South. I always turn it on when I visit Up North, because people first think I'm stupid, then realize I'm not, then think I'm somehow strong for overcoming, lol.

                                                                        1. Stan Laurel: " I'ts good to be down South again. "

                                                                          Oliver Hardy: " What do you mean down South ? What part of the South are you from ? "

                                                                          Stan Laurel: " South London. "

                                                                          1. I've never been mistaken for anything but Southern.

                                                                            Also the "s" in "Southern" is capitalized. ;)

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                                                                            1. re: deet13

                                                                              I agree. "Southern" is a point of reference, a point of origin, and then, "a state of mind." It IS Southern, and all should make note.


                                                                            2. Born & raised in Kentucky, but northern part. When I went to college in central KY, went to a grocery story (1st Piggly Wiggly I'd ever seen) to stock the dorm room fridge.

                                                                              The cashier said--very fast: "ya'll be wantin' a poke?" I had no idea what the heck she said, much less what she meant. Ended up: do you want a bag?

                                                                              For food--I'm certainly Southern, from biscuits and gravy to redeye gravy with country ham and 'nana puddin' for dessert.

                                                                              Although a week ago, heard an interview on NPR with a KY cooking person talking about the "KY famous" dish of Benedictine (not the drink)--cream cheese with cucumber. I'd never heard of it. They said it was a Louisville thing, and I never lived even near Lou'ville.

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                                                                              1. re: pine time

                                                                                I understand completely. I grew up on the MS Gulf Coast, with New Orleans as my city of influence.

                                                                                Over the years, I have been amazed at dishes, popular in other areas of MS, that I had never heard of - the state is not THAT large!


                                                                              2. Never ever. Born and raised in CA; in Virginia for 25 years.

                                                                                1. I grew up in California, but my mother was from Alabama and my father from Texas. When I talk with family there I slip right into a sort of bastardized southern accent--probably still sounds Yankee to them, but my husband says it sounds southern to him (he can just hear a few words of my side of a conversation and know who I'm talking with on the phone). And "y'all" is far too useful a word not to use it regularly.

                                                                                  And I cook southern--some things, anyway. Mostly baking--cornbread, biscuits, old school pies and cakes, many from old family recipes. I save bacon grease and treasure it like congealed gold. I'm not afraid to deep fry. However, I do NOT and never will boil my green beans for an hour, and my fried chicken still doesn't come close to my mother's (I'm working on that, though).

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                                                                                  1. re: MsMaryMc

                                                                                    Ah, green beans. I just cannot eat them al dente. Cook 'em to death and then for another hour, just for good measure. With a heaping spoonful of bacon grease. Mom used fatback, but kinda hard to find it in the 'burbs in SoCal.

                                                                                    1. re: pine time

                                                                                      I cook them that way...but I've been known to nibble them anywhere from raw through crisp-tender to cooked for hours.

                                                                                      1. re: pine time

                                                                                        You and my mother... She used to grow them in her garden, pick them fresh and bring them inside and, within minutes...put them in a pot with a hunk of ham hock and boil them to mush. One time, I rescued them on the way to the stove and said "Let ME cook the beans tonight!" I did them just al dente, with a smidge of butter and a kiss of fresh lemon. Mom took one bite and said "These aren't cooked!!" Oh, well.

                                                                                        1. re: MsMaryMc

                                                                                          Your Mom and I may be related. I grow green beans, too, and I'll even have my water boiling before I go to "harvest" a panful (I do the same with corn on the cob that I grow). Yup, a crunchy green bean is a raw green bean to me, too.

                                                                                      2. re: MsMaryMc

                                                                                        " I do NOT and never will boil my green beans for an hour"

                                                                                        Neither will I. Two hours++ is better!!! ;)

                                                                                        1. re: MsMaryMc

                                                                                          Ah yes, Southern cooked vegetables. For those who don't know how to do them this style it's really pretty easy. Take your vegetables, put them in a pot with some pork product, turn on the heat and go on vacation for a week or two. They should be ready when you get home. They really are cooked to death.
                                                                                          For the most part it's fine if not preferable. Greens, for example are pretty tough otherwise.
                                                                                          As much as I cook Southern though, I just can't do corn on the cob that way. Mrs. Sippi likes her's such that if you hold it by one end, it'll droop. Not I. I do like that crisp.

                                                                                          Anyway, unless I'm doing fried corn, if I do a pot of vegetables it either gets a ham hock or saved ham bone. Any flavourizers such as onion will get a saute in bacon grease. Yes, I save mine too.


                                                                                          1. re: Davwud

                                                                                            Home grown corn on the cob I will do a flash cook. Everything else: boil for your 2 week vacation!

                                                                                        2. My mother-in-law grew up as a WASP, Mayflower Society member in brownstone Brooklyn. Moved to rural Georgia in the 1980s...people there thought she was from England.

                                                                                          1. I have never been mistaken for Southern.

                                                                                            However, a Southerner once mistook me for Mexican.

                                                                                            1. I've never been mistaken for anything but a Southerner. I is what I is.

                                                                                              1. Native Minnesotan with strong Minnesota accent. Inevitably mistaken for Canadian, includig by a US Customs agent who grilled me because I sounded "Canadian". My speech is a constant source of amusement to my coworkers in Georgia and Texas. However, during vacations in Europe and Mexico, I was regularly assumed to be a New Yorker (?????).

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                                                                                                1. re: Pwmfan

                                                                                                  I understand. Though from Mississippi, I was stopped by Australian Immigration last month, as they thought I was British. I mean, British? How could they possibly think that, and especially with a well-used US Passport? Still, that was what they had in their minds, and I had to prove them wrong.


                                                                                                2. When someone comments on how slow I talk, I reply: "if you think I talk slow, you oughta hear my sister. One time she was out with a feller and before she could say she wadn't that kinda girl - she was!"