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Red wine buy today and cellar

Vllyred Jul 11, 2013 03:53 PM

Every year on our anniversary we buy a wine to cellar for a later anniversary, any suggestion for a red to buy today and save for later? We traveled to Spain this year so maybe a Spanish one? Thanks for your help!

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    mmeisner Jul 26, 2013 10:36 PM

    How much are you trying to spend? I bought a Promise Cabernet for my recent engagement, but that's $250. However, it's a fitting wine for the occasion. http://www.promisewine.com

    1. SteveTimko Jul 17, 2013 01:46 PM

      You don't say how long you want to lay them down.
      If you're looking for wines to lay down for 20 or 30 years, consider reds from Bandol. Sadly, the price for Tempier has gone through the roof (comparatively speaking. Not compared to say Bordeaux). But there's lots of other good producers, like Terrebrune, Pradeaux and Suffrene.

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      1. re: SteveTimko
        wally Jul 17, 2013 03:40 PM

        I recently had a 2001 Terrebrune, very fine.

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        TombstoneShadow Jul 11, 2013 11:54 PM

        Hi Villy... the Shadow is always glad to help such a romantic endeavor, and I always "steer you" in the correct direction.... And I always focus on what's AVAILABLE... what you can probably find on the shelf if you have well-stocked wineshops in your vicinity...

        2009 Bordeaux... depending on your vendor, also look at the 2010's.

        2009 Burgundy Cote de Nuits
        The above are ultra-premium, highly sought-after bottles, where IMO the wine is exceptional but so is the price...

        SO... let's keep the following gems just between us... to keep the prices down...

        2007 Brunellos... our little secret, okay ? Crazy great food-loving monster wines... Pop one of these open in 5 or 10 years and REALLY impress your friends :)

        2010 Chat. du Papes... maybe not such a secret, but they get lost in the shadows of Bordeaux and Burgundy, fortunately... tremendous age-worthy wines here, awesome vintage... you can pull these out in 10 or 15 years and toast the Shadow :)

        2007 Vintage Ports... hello, the most no-brainer go-out-and-buy-em wines on the shelf today... while you're at it you might find a great bottle of 2003 as well...

        2007 California Napa cabernet... see what your wine shop has on the shelf, in general these are really strong wines...

        Enjoy :) I love the romance in your quest, keep us posted as to what you purchase!

        Sorry I just can't recommend any Spanish vintages right now that compare to the above... they are either too picked over (2004-2005), or just not released (2010's)....

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        1. re: TombstoneShadow
          Vllyred Jul 12, 2013 05:17 AM

          Interesting - Thanks! I agree on the 2010 Chat du Papes - already have that one stored..I will check on the others you recommend. Thanks

          1. re: TombstoneShadow
            zin1953 Jul 12, 2013 06:34 AM

            >>> Sorry I just can't recommend any Spanish vintages right now that compare to the above... they are either too picked over (2004-2005), or just not released (2010's).... <<<

            OK, so either you're kidding, or you live in an extremely impoverished area . . .

            Not only are the 2008 and 2008 vintages stunning in both the Rioja and the Rebera del Duero, but there remain on the market any number of 2004s and 2005s -- even 2001s -- for sale. For example, here are but some of the wines currently available, shown alphabetically:

            2005 Riojas:
            -- Bodegas Lan Reserva
            -- CVNE Gran Reserva
            -- CVNE Imperial Reserva
            -- CVNE Viña Real Reserva
            -- Muga "Prado Enea" Gran Reserva
            -- Remirez de Ganuza Reserva

            2004 Riojas:
            -- Baron de Ley Gran Reserva
            -- Baron de Ley 7 Vinas
            -- Bodegas Lan Culmen Reserva
            -- CVNE Viña Real Reserva
            -- La Rioja Alta Viña Arana Reserva
            -- La Rioja Alta Viña Ardanza Reserva
            -- Marques de Murrieta Castillo Ygay Gran Reserva Especial

            Let alone the Ribera . . .

            Let alone 2008s and 2009s . . . .

            There are even 2001s still available, and in excellent shape:
            -- CVNE Imperial Gran Reserva
            -- La Rioja Alta Gran Reserva "904"
            -- La Rioja Alta Viña Ardanza Reserva Especial
            -- R. Lopez de Heredia Viña Tondonia Reserva
            -- Viña Olabarri Gran Reserva

            . . . .among others.

            1. re: zin1953
              Vllyred Jul 12, 2013 09:19 AM

              Awesome - Thanks I will check these out as well!

              1. re: Vllyred
                TombstoneShadow Jul 12, 2013 12:17 PM

                2008 and 2009 aren't even recognized as excellent vintages by the Rioja wine council itself so I wouldn't recommend either of them to someone who wants to lay down a special bottle. 2009 being the better of the two, but the gran reservas aren't released yet...

                I'm okay with the 2004 & 5's as I previously noted, the two best Spanish vintages of at least the past 15 years... IF your wine vendor(s) have any meaningful selection for you.... But these are being picked over and not nearly the abundance of the other regions I listed.

                If we're going to go back to 2001 that's fine, but those are going to be carefully cellared special bottles, much scantier inventory and at premium prices....

                ....So IMO somebody looking for abundantly available monster red wines at popular prices RIGHT NOW on the shelf isn't going to find nearly the selection from Spain they will find in other wines.

                At any point in time, certain wines are at a sweet spot where you have an awesome vintage, wide selection, and popular pricing...

                1. re: TombstoneShadow
                  zin1953 Jul 12, 2013 07:30 PM

                  Shadow, I'm not trying to be difficult, but having tasted many 2008s and 2009s, let's just say we disagree: I can wholeheartedly recommend them . . . at least the ones I've tried.

                  As for 2001, define "premium prices."

                  -- CVNE Imperial Gran Reserva: $69.99 (OK, not cheap)
                  -- La Rioja Alta Gran Reserva "904": $43.99
                  -- La Rioja Alta Viña Ardanza Reserva Especial: $29.99
                  -- R. Lopez de Heredia Viña Tondonia Reserva: $39.99
                  -- Viña Olabarri Gran Reserva: $24.99 (haven't had this one)

              2. re: zin1953
                ChefJune Jul 17, 2013 09:46 AM

                I'm such a fan of Lopez de Heredia wines-- that's the first thing that came to my mind.

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              collioure Jul 11, 2013 04:46 PM

              Tinto Pesquera Gran Reserva from Ribera del Duero, the best wine region in Spain. About $100.

              Too exp - buy the Reserva.for about $45.

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              1. re: collioure
                Vllyred Jul 12, 2013 05:16 AM

                Thanks - I will check these out!

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