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Mark Bittman's VB6

Hesitant to post this, because I'm only on my 4th day trying this. And I haven't bought the book yet, but I will. I thought I'd just start this thread to see if anyone else is trying the concept out (vegan before 6 p.m., more veggies, cut out as much processed food as possible, eat what you like in the evenings, within reason). I've been eating a lot of fruit, some veggies (definitely need to increase that) and a bit of grains during the day. i also usually eat a veg and/or salad with dinner, whatever that may be.

http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/...

Anyone else?

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  1. I'm in! (As I sit here on my lunch break with stir fried bok choy and broccoli, a little tofu, a little sriracha.) I actually had almond milk in my caffe "latte" this morning. Thanks for posting, and for including that link.

    This should be relatively easy for me, as I'm not usually tempted during the day, just during social evenings. We shall see...

    1. Interesting! I like the idea and the fact that we can eat as vegans do on a part-time basis, in whatever routine works. Like L. Nightshade, evening is when I'm at my weakest so the after 6 deal might work. Thanks for posting the link, mariacarmen!

      1. I've been trying to be vb6 but here's my problem - lunch (I work from home) is usually reconfigured leftovers with lots of fresh veggies added. Usually there's a small piece of meat involved. Don't know what I'm supposed to do with what is really not enough for dinner but us perfect for a lunch - throw it out?

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        1. re: katnat

          No, don't throw stuff out! I'm in your same situation, and when I scrounge the refrigerator for lunch, the bits of leftover savory meats are very appealing. I'm either wrapping them up and freezing them, or incorporating them into dinners. Think how lucky we are! We are working from home and in control of what we eat!

          1. re: katnat

            Sorry if I am missing something here, but I don't think it really matters what time of day you eat your meat. From what I understand Bittman picked 6 pm because that is what works for HIM.

            If you want to eat meat for lunch and return to plant-based eating for the rest of day, that should be fine. Ditto for those who don't want to give up their bacon and eggs for breakfast. Bittman also cites folks who eat a vegan diet during the week and are omnivores on the weekend.(Note this is for those giving up meat for dietary, not ethical or religious reasons--hopefully that is obvious!)

            I think it's less about actual time of day (or day of the week) and more about mindfulness.

            1. re: pedalfaster

              of course. the point is only to limit you to one non-vegan meal per day (or, as you say, 2 non-vegan meals per week - the point is less meat/dairy/processed foods, more veggies), and for a lot of people, myself included, dinners are harder to make vegan because i eat with someone who would not be amenable to that, and i also like to eat out quite a bit, and would not like to limit myself to non-meat/dairy items when i'm out on the town.

            2. re: katnat

              Freeze it and when you have enough left overs of the same kind there's dinner ready .i would use a plastic box for things like that so i don't have little packs all over the freezer.

            3. my office orders in lunch once a week and today they had "Pub Fare", which included, surprise of surprises, some vegan sausage patties! awesome, with some slaw on the side and roasted beets.

              good thing, cuz i blew it yesterday. but we soldier on.

              1. I don't understand why the time of day matters in what you consume.

                If his mere goal is to eat less meat or animal products, it's totally irrelevant. But then he's doing this to lose weight.

                I guess I know too many overweight vegans to ever even consider it. Plus I like my meat & fish.

                Be interesting to hear if this "works" for you -- whatever your goal may be....

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                1. re: linguafood

                  i responded above. time of day doesn't matter at all. it's just easier for some - like me - being at work all day and only having to feed myself.

                  1. re: mariacarmen

                    Gotcha. What exactly is your goal with this diet? Are you still in WW as well?

                    1. re: linguafood

                      oh lingua, you know me, the goal is always losing some weight. can't get motivated to back to WW strictly, so i'm trying this. i think if i do this and maintain portion control, i can kick-start this whole thing. i am working out again, too, but i need to increase that. we'll see. you know i'm a meat-eater at heart.

                      1. re: mariacarmen

                        Maybe you should try low(er)-carbing, or have you tried it before (sorry if I can't remember, my brains are mush today)?

                        I've been able to keep my weight down with that "method", which speaks to me as a meat, fish, and dairy lover. I eat more vegetables than I did when I had starchy sides, given that I generally replace the usual rice, pasta or potato side with another veggie or salad.

                        But I also know that this doesn't work for everyone. As long as you manage to get enough protein in, you should be fine.

                        1. re: linguafood

                          i tried low carbing - very low carbing - and it did not do one thing for me. didn't lose an ounce. and i was very strict about it. i know you've had success without being fanatic.

                          i find when i do a combo of portion control and some low-ish carbing it works for me. and exercise of course. i think this V6 thing for me will just make me aware of overeating during the day.

                          and i have no doubt i'll squeeze in enough protein!

                          1. re: mariacarmen

                            mariacarmen, have you tried following simply filling technique (which used to be called core) on weight watchers? I"ve had great success with it. It's basically lean proteins and nonfat dairy, whole grains, and, of course, lots of produce. (WW calls these power foods.)

                            http://www3.weightwatchers.com/util/a...

                            It's not "low carb" but I've heard people call it "low carb" WW style (I don't really know why people call it that...I think because there's not really a lot of emphasis on restricting meat). It's not mutually exclusive to VB6, by the way. You could do both. But the great thing about SFT is that you don't have to "count" or weigh or measure any of the power foods.

                            For me, it's a way of choosing what I eat more mindfully without having to feel like I'm "on a diet" all the time. You still get your activity points and your weekly points allowance. I use those for things like nuts or "upgrading" my nonfat dairy to lowfat.

                            RE": VB6--I think I'd have the same problem as rmarisco describes below, is that I'd crave protein, etc. all day long and gorge at dinner. I think I'd be better off having my non vegan meal at breakfast. Which, of course is fine, except, I wonder, is VB6 heavy on the breakfast recipes?

                            Finally, I also take leftovers for lunch, so I'd be more in the vein of eating vegan for two days in a row kind of thing, than just mornings only.

                            ~TDQ