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Jul 6, 2013 10:11 PM

Where does one go for authentic Americanized Chinese food?


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  1. New York City!? ("Get a rope...")

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    1. re: PeterCC

      (Sorry, but that rope is still around my neck)

      1. re: ipsedixit

        Does authentic mean still prepared by Chinese but tweaked to cater to Americans? I get that "authentic" Americanized Chinese vibe from Dragon Palace in Santa Monica. Have to try their egg roll to see if it's the thick kind with meat inside...

        1. re: PeterCC

          Does authentic mean still prepared by Chinese but tweaked to cater to Americans?

          No, not necessarily.

          1. re: ipsedixit

            This seems like a trick question. Like I could say P.F. Chang but I think it's been deemed not even Chinese (Chinese adjacent?), Or I could answer Chin Chin, which is definitely Americanized, but perhaps so much so that it's not authentic?

            What about the original Panda Inn restaurants that led to the Panda Express pandemic?

            1. re: PeterCC

              I think I figured out the answer to my own question.

              Yang Chow.

              1. re: ipsedixit

                Been going there since the early '80s. I like it, especially the Walnut Shrimp, but it doesn't get good Chow grades. Probabably for the very reason it's a good call here.

                1. re: Midlife

                  Not really. I LOVE Chinese food, authentic or americanized, and Yang Chow used to be a great choice that could satisfy a big table with lots of opinions. But recent attempts to eat there were so disappointing. Really greasy, like they were afraid they might have to scrub a wok. Its off my list for good.

                  1. re: Jetneo

                    That's disappointing. I really haven't been there more than once or twice in the past several years so I should really have qualified my comment. I was hoping the reason for poor Chow reviews was that it was over-Americanized.

              2. re: PeterCC

                The term "authentic" is so slippery that it is essentially what you make of it, and ipse knows this, so don't ask questions expecting any specific answers. Make your own judgment call and share with us.

                Mr Taster

        1. re: NYCnowLA

          Genghis Cohen: The closest I have come to the egg rolls I have had in New York and where I grew up, St. Louis. Yes, for some reason, St. Louis had those pebble-skinned egg rolls made with pork, shrimp, cabbage, etc.

          1. re: NeverEnough

            That restaurant name belongs in some kind of record book!

            1. re: NeverEnough

              Emperor Express in Sherman Oaks, @ Burbank / Fulton has them, too. Just like I remembered from my midwestern days...

          2. Need more specifics Ipse. "Authentic Americanized Chinese food" is kindof an oxymoron without a specific set of references.

            There used to be a lot of what "I" would call
            Americanized Chinese restaurants in LA, but I have no idea if A)you'd call them that' or B) if they're still serving the same kind of food these days. Down here, in far-South OC, there are a number of them. In fact, it's hard to find those that aren't. I'm using the criteria of dishes like Lobster Cantonese, Beef with Broccoli (the kind with large florets), and maybe a 'pupu plkatter' of appetizers on the menu. On the other hand, I grew up in NYC and have never really found anything like the food at Ruby Foo's (the original, not the recent incarnation) here.

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            1. re: Midlife

              I second this. In OC there are a number of places like Al Palace Chinese Restaurant, China Moon and Peking Dragon. All Americanized and serving the type of Chinese food popular in the early 90's. You won't find any hand-torn noodles.

            2. Some places I personally feel that are flying below CH's radar include Pei Wei, P. F. Chang's, and Panda Express (and arguably Panda Inn). I doubt most if not all have ever heard of these fine establishments.

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              1. re: Xan7hos

                Panda Inn is not bad. I'm referring to the one on Foothill Blvd in east Pasadena. I don't even mind PF Chang's. But Pei Wei was pretty awful. Seems like everything has a bucket of sugar in it.

                1. re: Dirtywextraolives

                  Panda Express, not Panda Inn, is the one that's not so good. Thanks for the info on Pei Wei. I was going to try the one here in Vegas but won't now.

                  1. re: mucho gordo

                    Yeah, stick with Panda Inn, Pei Wei is pretty wretched.

                  2. re: Dirtywextraolives

                    +1 nod for Panda Inn

                    or you can go to Sea Harbour and get the Sweet and Sour Pork a la J. Gold

                    1. re: andytseng


                      i'm going to have to try the original Panda Inn.

                      Interesrestingly enough, a few years back, there was a location in the mall across from the apple pan.

                2. oh great, let's delve into a postmodernist discourse on cultural relativistic semiotics.

                  like we needed an excuse.