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jujuthomas Jul 1, 2013 09:17 AM

So what did you think of the star challenge? It seemed very awkward to me - was Damaris sampling the punch as she made it? maybe it was just nerves... but she really seemed toasted by the time Alton got to her. I thought Stacy did a good job with her presentation and her Guests.

I was sorry to see Viet go.

  1. juliejulez Jul 1, 2013 01:13 PM

    The star challenge was stupid. Some of them got a very easy "mishap" whereas other ones, like the fire alarm or the lights going off, was way bigger. But, I was kinda shocked at how bad many of them were. It's like, you know it's a test for how you do on live television, so why would you stop if something happened? Just keep going! I feel like it would be common sense.... but maybe it's one of those "harder than it looks" sorts of things.

    1. DiningDiva Jul 1, 2013 01:39 PM

      Is it just me, or does it seem like it's now Stacy's to win or lose? I'm just not seeing too many of the others as viable.

      Rodney (sucker, can't understand), Chris (TALKS TOO LOUDLY, and not totally likable), Russell (too "chefy") all have issues of one sort or another.

      Nikki (giggly and insipid) and DeMaris (too flirty, too overtly "sexy" in her actions) don't exactly inspire a huge amount of confidence.

      So that leaves Stacy as the only sane contestant with not a whole lot of production baggage. She seems a little deer in the headlights sometimes, but she does pretty well on camera most of the time.

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      1. re: DiningDiva
        juliejulez Jul 1, 2013 03:29 PM

        I was thinking that too. Rodney is OK sometimes, but really bad other times. Plus I think his "pie" viewpoint is too narrow to make a show that can last more than a few episodes. I don't mind Chris, I liked watching him on Food Truck Race, and he seems to know what he's doing, but he is a little loud.

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          DiningDiva Jul 1, 2013 03:34 PM

          I agree Chris isn't bad and I dont' remember him being that LOUD on the GFTR.

          For some reason I have yet to put my finger on, Nikki just rubs me the wrong way. I really like DeMaris, she's cute, she's spunky, but she's too damn twitchy and a little all over the place.

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            gaffk Jul 1, 2013 04:36 PM

            I don't watch the food truck show, but I find Chris really annoying and LOUD. Besides, I still have no idea what his all-important POV is, so I don't see how he could win. And I think Rodney would be cool to hang out with at the bar for an evening, but I'm not sure I'd watch him make pies.

            I'm kinda' pulling for Chad, as he's local. But can the man please visit a barber for a shampoo and cut? Besides, last I checked, FN had no shortage of BBQ, including Bobby Flay.

            I can see checking out Stacy's show. She's upbeat, but not too perky. Of course, I don't know how long an "updating the vintage dishes" show could run.

            1. re: gaffk
              DiningDiva Jul 1, 2013 05:15 PM

              "And I think Rodney would be cool to hang out with at the bar for an evening, but I'm not sure I'd watch him make pies."

              Gotta definitely agree with you there :-). I bet he's got some great stories that can only be told in a bar.

              I think the updated vintage could last until they found something else to do with her.

            2. re: DiningDiva
              juliejulez Jul 1, 2013 04:39 PM

              I think Damaris would be great on the "travel and eat" kind of show... where she just has to go chat and be goofy w/ the owners and eat.

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                Firegoat Jul 1, 2013 04:42 PM

                But where would they go that hasn't already been done before?

                I vote for giving her a show called the Drunk Chef. Liquor her up and let her go.

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                  juliejulez Jul 2, 2013 11:23 AM

                  Who knows....they seem to keep coming out with new travel/food shows so they'll come up with something for her too.

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                    Firegoat Jul 2, 2013 11:26 AM

                    Maybe "Best Happy Hours in America?"

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                      girloftheworld Jul 2, 2013 12:00 PM

                      I think Sandra Lee already has this show- she parlayed her shrill little mating call "Cocktail Time" into an actual show

                    2. re: juliejulez
                      ennuisans Jul 2, 2013 11:40 AM

                      My guess as to travel shows is that, for one, they are very cheap to make, and for two they keep the talent busy between their regular gigs. You could hire Bobby Flay to make 52 cooking shows in a year, but does he have 52 decent shows in him in a short time span? Or give him a show for a regular season and then let him drift the rest of the year, perhaps finding a better home?

                      It's surely more efficient to give Alton Brown a paid motorcycle vacation eating doughnuts in St Louis than to burn out his existing brand with new shows, or groom a new host to fill the airspace. That said, where the hell is Baron Ambrosia this year?

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                      Poochinator Jul 4, 2013 07:11 AM

                      I like that! I miss The Galloping Gourmet.

                2. re: juliejulez
                  Firegoat Jul 1, 2013 04:33 PM

                  I think you could pull off a pie show if you wanted to really go out there with it. Include some history of hand pies for the working class, shepherd's pie etc.
                  I would like to see him do a hotdog pie.

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                    tracytrace Jul 1, 2013 04:45 PM

                    Nothing to add here, I just want to say that " hot dog pie" made me laugh out loud for real. I don't know exactly why. Maybe I sipped a bit too much wine while cooking dinner, ahem.

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                      C. Hamster Jul 2, 2013 04:58 PM

                      The pie thing would be ok for a season but probably couldn't be sustained unless turned into a Chopped-like challenge to make pie from these ingredients: frozen blueberries, canned black olives, arugula and head cheese.

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                        Firegoat Jul 3, 2013 03:10 AM

                        I could watch an all pizza pie all the time show

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                    pine time Jul 3, 2013 01:17 PM

                    On the pie guy: I keep thinking of the Sandwich King. How did that work out for him and the FN? Not so much. I see the pie guy in the same too-narrow boat.

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                      DiningDiva Jul 3, 2013 02:19 PM

                      Actually, I think it worked out pretty well. He's going into the 3rd "season" of his show, he had a 2nd show on FTV and was nominated for a Daytime Emmy.

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                        pine time Jul 4, 2013 06:57 AM

                        Wow. Had no idea. Thought he had fallen off the radar. Okay, solider on, Pie Guy.

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                          charmedgirl Jul 4, 2013 01:27 PM

                          Sadly, I've eaten Pie Guy's pies and they are ... not good. My opinion was the exact same as the selection committee's a few weeks ago -- the crust was tough and flavorless. The filling was ok, but I couldn't get past the crust. It's my favorite part of pie. Such a bummer. As a result, despite wanting to see a hometown boy make good, I can't in good conscience root for him.

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                      wincountrygirl Jul 4, 2013 04:10 AM

                      I have to admit, I like Stacy. She has a really nice quality about her. I have liked her since her appearance on Restaurant Impossible. That said, I really don't think I'd watch the shows of any of these contestants. The only concept maybe is Chad and the BBQ. Is is also pleasant to watch.

                    3. girloftheworld Jul 1, 2013 05:19 PM

                      viet seemed to get suckered punched ..."heres all your food" all your food is now gone?? that is a lot worse than ooops you have to use a fork.

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                      1. re: girloftheworld
                        chicgail Jul 2, 2013 11:50 AM

                        And he was first. So it was most likely that he would have been thrown off his game.

                        After he (and others) got back to report to the other finalists, they knew to expect ... something ... was going to happen.

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                          WNYamateur Jul 2, 2013 11:55 AM

                          No, they kept those who'd done their challenge separate from those still waiting to go. Hence the crowd got bigger in the room where they we;re asking "what did they do to you?".

                        2. re: girloftheworld
                          C. Hamster Jul 2, 2013 04:59 PM

                          I totally agree. I think they should all be judged on the same challenge.

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                            coney with everything Jul 3, 2013 04:38 AM

                            ITA with same challenge for everyone, and if a person like Viet got a show, a live challenge would probably not be relevant...not every FN chef shows up on the Today show to demonstrate a recipe.

                            Although with PD off the roster, they might need someone who can do that.

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                            DGresh Jul 3, 2013 08:43 AM

                            I agree that his surprise challenge was worse than others, but he also flubbed the call in question. I mean, how hard is it to think "three dips, different colors, guac, salsa, and maybe a cheese dip"?

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                            maisonbistro Jul 3, 2013 01:21 PM

                            Soooo, your "bit" was perfect- and that's what you need to be careful about. Not to seem to perfect. Huh?? Really??/ say what Alton?

                            (He said that to Stacy- she needs to seem more vulnerable)

                            I just don't get this show anymore- and with that episode- I'm done. I find it totally lacks credibiltiy (when exactly was this 4th of July special aired "live"- and who were the people that called in?????)

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                              DGresh Jul 3, 2013 01:28 PM

                              re that 4th of july live thing, I figured it was a "simulation" of a live event, with "actors" calling in the questions. I mean, those questions were really all softballs.

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                                chris2269 Jul 3, 2013 01:44 PM

                                Agree it was fake.

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                                  maisonbistro Jul 3, 2013 03:23 PM

                                  I just wish all of these shows- Master Chef, NFNS- didn't treat the viewers as idiots. I find it insulting that they present it one way, and just assume we will accept it for what it is. You're going live in 4,3,2,- yes, a live audience.... out there in TV land, and people are even going to call in.... Seriously????

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                                    C. Hamster Jul 3, 2013 04:57 PM

                                    And why was a call in situation a "Fourth of July" challenge?

                                    Isn't the 4th a huge day for home cooks?

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                                      maisonbistro Jul 3, 2013 06:41 PM

                                      Ummm, because the "live" show never really happened. Was it July the 4th 2012? no. It was fake from the beginning. It wasn't "love" on Food Network or anywhere for that matter. Logistically it is impossible. Forget about the whole keeping the identity of the dismissed contestants a secret... I mean, if that showed last year or any time for that matter- we'd all know already that Danushka was outta there, along with the other elimintated contestants.

                                      It's a fake and a fraud and i find it insulting that the Food Network doesn't think we;d notice.

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                                        chicgail Jul 4, 2013 03:45 AM

                                        With no apologies for the FN, I didn't think that this episode was pretending to be live. I thought it was designed to recreate what it could be like on a live broadcast for the participants with all the things that could happen in that scenario.

                                        As for the Fourth of July scenario, it was obvious that since this show was shot and edited (at least) weeks ago, that it wasn't REALLY the Fourth, but shot to be "timely" for the viewing audience. Happens all the time. Annoying and silly IMO, but done because some producer planned the shows with a calendar in front of him/her.

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                                          ennuisans Jul 4, 2013 06:27 AM

                                          My own approach to shows like FNS or NIC is that they are not competition shows, they are auditions presented as entertainment. It's not surprising (as has been commented elsewhere) that many contestants, or rather applicants, have media experience and are not just people who cook well; they are being considered for a tv show.

                                          And not necessarily equally. If by this point it was clear Viet wasn't ready for a show, it's fine to give him a challenge that would really throw him off. It's not meant to be fair but to put contestants up against their weaknesses.

                                          Conversely if Stacy is getting softballs it's because she's a strong contender. It's an audition. There is nothing wrong with that, and nothing gained by making things hard on a likely finisher.

                                          Every show on FN has to be taken with a grain of salt when it comes to reality and fantasy. Iron Chef is a wholly phony premise but an apparently real competition. Every cooking show is framed by a story about how we're going to play volleyball afterwards, or getting ready for a gluten-free bachelor party. But the cooking we accept as a legitimate dish, or we find another show.

                                          Then again it's been made clear that there's so much hidden sabotage on Chef Hunter that there's no point, for me, in watching it. I guess my point is that for all the complaints we read here that "all these shows are fake", it's really a matter of whether they are fake in a way that bothers me and real in a way that entertains me.

                                          And ultimately they can take Viet's peppers away all day long. In the end he lost because he can't put together a simple chip dip. Nothing faked about that and nothing to defend.

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                                            maisonbistro Jul 4, 2013 12:03 PM

                                            I agree with what you are saying- Yes, well know it's fake- so what bothers me is that the producers, networks pretend that we're too stupid to know it's fake.

                                            In response to Chicgail- I am pretty sure they intended everyone to believe it was happening live - because they said it so many times- with no caveats.

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                                              chicgail Jul 4, 2013 06:29 PM

                                              They did say it several times, maisonbistro, but I don't know what they intended "everyone to believe."

                                              I thought that was at least as much for the audience - or to reiterate that the challenge was for the finalist to operate AS IT it were live.

                                              But for anyone (especially the contestants) to actually believe it the calls were spontaneous audience questions challenges credulity and their intelligence - unless, of couse they think Santa Claus really does make toys in the North Pole that he flies around the world on December 24 on a sleigh pulled by reindeer.

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                                                girloftheworld Jul 4, 2013 10:42 PM

                                                What? there is no Santa!???? damn my parents were right I needed to be careful on an adult site!

                              2. JonParker Jul 5, 2013 01:42 PM

                                There's really only one answer in response to whether or not NFNS is a credible show: Guy Fieri.

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                                  chicgail Jul 5, 2013 01:48 PM

                                  Does Guy Fieri represent for you that NFNS is credible? Or not credible?

                                  His show runs endlessly on FN - and many of us find him a complete waste of airtime. So I guess there is more than one answer, even if you consider Guy Fieri.

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                                    girloftheworld Jul 5, 2013 02:02 PM

                                    I have never watched a complete episode of any of his shows... so I cant really judge..unless that in itself is a judgement.

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                                      JonParker Jul 5, 2013 02:37 PM

                                      In one of his DDD episodes he hung out with Joe at Joe Squared in Baltimore, which was one of my favorite hangouts, so I did watch that episode. Still, ugh.

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                                      JonParker Jul 5, 2013 02:34 PM

                                      I've been posting on Chowhound since 1999 (which frightens me a great deal) so I thought it would be obvious that I find Fieri not only a waste of time, but actively offensive. The man is horrid.

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                                        girloftheworld Jul 5, 2013 02:42 PM

                                        i guess i shouldnt say Wow before i was born should I ?

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                                          JonParker Jul 5, 2013 03:18 PM

                                          No you really shouldn't :P

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                                          chicgail Jul 6, 2013 03:28 AM

                                          Sorry I hadn't noticed your particular point of view about GF. At the same time, I'm relieved that it pretty much matches mine.

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                                            wincountrygirl Jul 6, 2013 04:24 AM

                                            I think the critics agreed with you when they reviewed his restaurant!!

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                                          kimmer1850 Jul 6, 2013 10:50 AM

                                          I truly do not enjoy GF or his shows but, by definition, he is a FN star. BTW... love Joe Squared!

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                                            DiningDiva Jul 6, 2013 11:02 AM

                                            I think GF suffers from a common FTV ailment...over exposure. When one of their hosts connects with the view audience, FTV has a long and littered track record of over using them ad nauseum until the audience is thoroughly and completely sick and tired of them. Emeril, Rachel, Paula come to mind.

                                            Bobby has come dangerously closed to being over exposed as has Giada. I suspect what saved Bobby from going over the cliff is that most people seriously disliked him when he first started on TV. Then 3 things happened, Throwdown w/BF showed a kinder gentler side, he got married, and he's gotten older and mellower. The viewing audience's opinion changed and he's become a pretty solid performer for FTV without being some silly caricature the FTV has dreamed up for him. Giada had her baby just at the right time; absence made the heart grow fonder for her while she was away.

                                            Guy has gone over the edge into the abyss of over exposure and caricature with an annoying and silly personna that almost just begs for people to take shots at him. But, to use his term, he's "money" for the advertisers and as long as that continues, we'll probably be subjected to more of his antics. DDD has been a money machine for him, the production company, FTV, the advertisers and the places featured on it. As Jerry Maguire said...show me the money

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                                              wincountrygirl Jul 6, 2013 11:16 AM

                                              Youmare so right about Bobby Flay. I couldn't stand him but he really has mellowed out and it was very obvious whe he did Worst Cooks. He had a sense of humor and compassion.

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                                                chowser Jul 8, 2013 06:57 AM

                                                That's a great synopsis. Yes, Guy has bought into his own hype. The purpose of his show is for him to show off what he knows. I agree that Bobby and Giada have mellowed and are much more like-able now.

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                                                  juliejulez Jul 8, 2013 10:33 AM

                                                  Another agreement on Bobby Flay. I was just thinking about it the other day (I need to get a life), he seems the most "real" out of all the judges on NFNS. I like watching his brunch show on Cooking Channel and the new BBQ Addiction show on FN too.

                                                  I was watching a very old Giada show the other day on Cooking Channel... must have been from the first season of Everyday Italian, and she was very mellow then, much like Rachael Ray was at first. Then things got amped up, her shirts got lower cut and she became kind of a caricature., and now I'm not crazy about Giada. I will say she was one of the ones who "taught" me how to cook back in 2006. I still keep a few of those early recipes in my repertoire. The SO thinks she's hot.

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                                                    monavano Jul 8, 2013 10:42 AM

                                                    Bobby's Brunch is an excellent show. It's everything put together from soup to nuts.
                                                    Giada- also she used to speak at normal volume, now she whispers so much it's annoying. Then there's the "creamy" drinking game.
                                                    Alton has a permascowl and at times, looks like he's passing a porcupine. I do appreciate his straight forward nature.

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                                                    rasputina Jul 8, 2013 01:20 PM

                                                    I agree with you about Bobby, I couldn't stand him all the way back to Hot Off the Grill. Throwdown redeemed him.

                                                    On the other hand while I've never been a fan of Giada watching her on FNS really showed her bitchy, stuck up nature. I still don't like her although she has toned it down in the last season or two.

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                                                      girloftheworld Jul 8, 2013 03:23 PM

                                                      Is it just me or does she seem to look more and more like a Polly Pocket doll?

                                                       
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                                                        wincountrygirl Jul 9, 2013 04:06 AM

                                                        Yes, but the neckline is not low enough!

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                                                          chicgail Jul 9, 2013 07:06 AM

                                                          I always thought of her as a bobble-head doll: you know, her head is way to big for her body.

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                                                            C. Hamster Jul 9, 2013 05:40 PM

                                                            Her nickname is Little Big Head

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                                                            Kris in Beijing Jul 9, 2013 01:40 PM

                                                            We call her a BRAT.

                                                            http://www.luciagirl.com/my_weblog/br...

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                                                    HeyImBack Jul 6, 2013 10:47 AM

                                                    One thing I have noticed this season (and am surprised that no one has commented on) is that none of the hosts/judges have been pushing the contestants to show us their culinary POV. I've heard the contestants mention it several times, but none of the FN people. Strange.

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                                                      rasputina Jul 8, 2013 07:05 AM

                                                      "why do you need to bring this product to market at this time and how does it reflect you"

                                                      Are they kidding me? Does it taste good? Is it something people would be interested in? That's all that matters to me. I can't remember ever standing in the aisle at the market and looking at a product and asking, "how does this represent them".

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                                                        JonParker Jul 8, 2013 07:40 AM

                                                        On the other hand I'm sure there were a lot of people who went to Sam's Club and saw Guy Fieri's S'More's Pizza and though "wow, that really does seem like something Guy would do."

                                                      2. Firegoat Jul 8, 2013 07:33 AM

                                                        Couldn't bring myself to watch last night's show Watched a recap and the results of the online Star Salvation. I think I'm done with this.

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                                                          monavano Jul 8, 2013 08:34 AM

                                                          I dvr'd it and watched this morning. Yawn.

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                                                            rasputina Jul 8, 2013 09:39 AM

                                                            The only reason I'm still watching is because there is nothing else on Sunday now that my regular shows are on hiatus for the summer. Ok and I do find Damaris amusing to watch.

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                                                              monavano Jul 8, 2013 10:08 AM

                                                              I think she gets up every day and eats a big ole bowl of crazy!

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                                                                chicgail Jul 8, 2013 10:34 AM

                                                                I don't think she's crazy at all. I think she is very self-expressed and just needs to learn how to manage that so it works on screen (and probably in life!).

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                                                                KrumTx Jul 8, 2013 01:25 PM

                                                                I've watched it a couple of times for the same reason ... nothing else on! Ready for Shameless and House of Lies again. I'm thoroughly underwhelmed with this season's contestants.

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                                                                  wincountrygirl Jul 9, 2013 04:07 AM

                                                                  Bring back Game of Thrones please!!

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                                                                    coney with everything Jul 9, 2013 04:48 AM

                                                                    Breaking Bad. That is all

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                                                                  ennuisans Jul 8, 2013 09:40 AM

                                                                  I think I cringed the whole time. Chad makes baked beans that are too sweet and claims they are for grownups. Nikki is channeling Aarti. Damaris is told to be herself after two months of being told not to be herself.

                                                                  Fully expected the saved contestants to charge back in and demand a revote.

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                                                                    gaffk Jul 8, 2013 10:15 AM

                                                                    I cringe every time the pie man breaks out his guitar. They tell him to be succinct and clear, but instead he breaks into another unintelligible song. Not to mention, his packaging includes duct tape and an old hanger, but Chris goes home?

                                                                    Can we just declare Stacey the winner and end this season now?

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                                                                      monavano Jul 8, 2013 10:29 AM

                                                                      I think the food execs got a kick out of his guitar, while the mentors cringed because it's way past getting old.
                                                                      Plus, that was the stupidest packaging I've ever seen. It should come with a warning and a label that says "keep away from children".
                                                                      And how does he envision this dumb product getting stored on shelves for display??
                                                                      It looked like something a third grader made for show and tell.
                                                                      BTW... pre made pie crust? Been done forever. Pie filling? Ditto. Quiche is in the freezer section and how do you keep egg filling from being lethal if not frozen or refrigerated?

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                                                                        gaffk Jul 8, 2013 10:41 AM

                                                                        Not to mention, the kit included pie crust and goat cheese. What refrigerated case could accommodate that monstrosity?

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                                                                          monavano Jul 8, 2013 10:45 AM

                                                                          All I could think of was "clean up on aisle 12!".

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                                                                            wincountrygirl Jul 9, 2013 04:07 AM

                                                                            And why package it in a jar?

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                                                                              DGresh Jul 9, 2013 04:20 AM

                                                                              didn't it kind of seem like they were required to put everything in a jar of some sort? That seemed to be what they could choose among(and as if Kellogg doesn't package things in, um, boxes?)

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                                                                                jujuthomas Jul 9, 2013 05:45 AM

                                                                                i think the challenge was jar, bottle or box. The bacon candy was in a little take-out style box, IIRC. The pie kit in a jar was ridiculous.

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                                                                                  wincountrygirl Jul 9, 2013 08:30 AM

                                                                                  I thought so, When he said kit I guess I thought of something like an Ina Garten cake mix that comes with most ingredients and you just add the fresh stuff. In his case, it was all made and just needed to be put together.

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                                                                                    jeanmarieok Jul 9, 2013 11:12 AM

                                                                                    That's what I expected, too - something with a pie crust, and maybe cheese and seasonings, where the home cook added eggs and milk to complete. I was pretty surprised at the ridiculous jar that came out.

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                                                                                      wincountrygirl Jul 9, 2013 11:13 AM

                                                                                      Right - and with all that duct tape!

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                                                                                        chicgail Jul 9, 2013 01:25 PM

                                                                                        I know, right? What's so great about duct tape and bent wire coat hangers for food products?

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                                                                                          DiningDiva Jul 9, 2013 04:10 PM

                                                                                          Did you happen to notice the reactions of the "marketing" person from FTV that they had to meet with first and explain their idea and then their vision for how it would be packaged?

                                                                                          She was totally confused

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                                                                                            gaffk Jul 9, 2013 04:26 PM

                                                                                            Yes, that was some classic TV. Especially after seeing how well she was working with the others.

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                                                                                              monavano Jul 9, 2013 04:43 PM

                                                                                              Edited for full effect, because at home, I think most of us were scratching our heads.

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                                                                                                chowser Jul 9, 2013 06:27 PM

                                                                                                The whole challenge was pretty lame in making them design their own logos and packaging. That would never happen in real life and they're not marketing/sales people. I thought she'd be helping them, not just putting it together for them.

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                                                                                                  DiningDiva Jul 9, 2013 06:49 PM

                                                                                                  Me too, I was surprised at how amaturish a lot of the final products looked

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                                                                                                    chowser Jul 9, 2013 07:35 PM

                                                                                                    The pie thing was pretty scary/funny. But they loved the straw tied around the jar? Hasn't that been seen to death at craft fairs?

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                                                                                                      coney with everything Jul 10, 2013 04:45 AM

                                                                                                      Professional graphics designer, or Mrs. Smith's 6th hour "How to use Microsoft Paint" class at the local middle school?

                                                                            2. re: ennuisans
                                                                              monavano Jul 8, 2013 10:19 AM

                                                                              Chad's "famous" beans. Really Chad? Has ANYONE ever heard of your famous beans?
                                                                              Sorry, but the "famous" eponymous dish= conceited.
                                                                              I thought the flavor profiles were by and large contrived. The contestants want to think that they're so self possessed when it comes to cooking, but the flavors weren't there.
                                                                              The GF cookie cooked pale and flaccid. Not cooking out alcohol in sauces is an amateur mistake. Bacon anything is trite and so 2006, and I can't see a cooking show based on "sinfully" unhealthy food.

                                                                              1. re: monavano
                                                                                JonParker Jul 8, 2013 10:33 AM

                                                                                Well, the fact that we're discussing them here means they're somewhat famous. Maybe not Paul McCartney famous, but at least Billy Preston famous.

                                                                                1. re: JonParker
                                                                                  monavano Jul 8, 2013 10:44 AM

                                                                                  Who's Billy Preston?
                                                                                  Chad's not famous and his beans never were. It's so cliche to name your product "famous" when it's little well know and even less cared about.
                                                                                  Bush's baked beans are famous. Duke Bush is more famous than Chad will ever be.

                                                                                  1. re: monavano
                                                                                    gaffk Jul 8, 2013 10:53 AM

                                                                                    Who's Billy Preston? SMH.

                                                                                    And, FWIW, Chad's beans are pretty well-regarded in the Philly burbs. Of course, given Philadelphia's reputation as a hotbed of BBQ, you can take that for all it's worth ;)

                                                                                    1. re: gaffk
                                                                                      monavano Jul 8, 2013 11:02 AM

                                                                                      It's surprising that the judges really didn't like them. You'd think his beans would have been a ringer.
                                                                                      Does Chad own a restaurant or BBQ place in Philly?

                                                                                      1. re: monavano
                                                                                        gaffk Jul 8, 2013 11:10 AM

                                                                                        He owned two in the burbs just outside Philly. He closed them late 2012 and bought a bigger location in Ambler (suburb of Philly). That restaurant was supposed to open this Spring, but I just checked and it has yet to open.

                                                                                        (The location he purchased used to be a bar and restaurant that featured live music. Rumor has it the stage will remain for live music . . . Maybe Chad will invite Rodney to perform?)

                                                                                        1. re: gaffk
                                                                                          monavano Jul 8, 2013 11:14 AM

                                                                                          Oh that would be funny.

                                                                                        2. re: monavano
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                                                                                          jujuthomas Jul 8, 2013 11:12 AM

                                                                                          Chad owned Rosey's BBQ with two locations in the Philly 'burbs, which closed recently in favor of his soon-to-open Lucky Well in Ambler PA. The BBQ at Rosey's was decent, ya know for Philly - hot bed of bbq that it ain't... :)
                                                                                          Lucky Well will also be a BBQ place, from what I hear.

                                                                                          1. re: jujuthomas
                                                                                            monavano Jul 8, 2013 11:15 AM

                                                                                            Thanks for the info. I wish him well with his Ambler location.

                                                                                        3. re: gaffk
                                                                                          chicgail Jul 9, 2013 07:08 AM

                                                                                          I had to look up SMH. Now I'm ROTFLMAO.

                                                                                          Who's Billy Preston, indeed.

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                                                                                            wincountrygirl Jul 9, 2013 08:30 AM

                                                                                            Can you clue me in? SMH? ROTFLMAO? I'm clueless!

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                                                                                              pine time Jul 9, 2013 08:58 AM

                                                                                              Shaking my head. Rolling on the floor laughing my ass off.

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                                                                                                wincountrygirl Jul 9, 2013 09:35 AM

                                                                                                Thank you!

                                                                                    2. re: monavano
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                                                                                      pine time Jul 9, 2013 07:16 AM

                                                                                      On the rare occasions I buy canned baked beans, I have to check the sugar content of each--some of them make cereals look healthy. Can't stand too-sweet baked beans.

                                                                                      1. re: pine time
                                                                                        chicgail Jul 9, 2013 07:22 AM

                                                                                        Worse, most canned beans contain HFCS.

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                                                                                          pine time Jul 9, 2013 07:39 AM

                                                                                          Didn't he use canned beans? Wonder if that's 'cause of the time challenge, or if he uses canned beans for his "world famous" version, too?

                                                                                          1. re: pine time
                                                                                            chicgail Jul 9, 2013 11:07 AM

                                                                                            Yes he did use canned beans. Sorry, I wasn't clear. What I should have said is that most canned "baked beans" contain HFCS.

                                                                                            1. re: chicgail
                                                                                              Firegoat Jul 9, 2013 11:13 AM

                                                                                              You actually made me get up and go to the kitchen and check my can of Bush's Best Country Baked Beans. No HFCS just brown sugar and sugar.

                                                                                              1. re: Firegoat
                                                                                                chicgail Jul 9, 2013 01:25 PM

                                                                                                I'm pretty sure Bush's is the only one that doesn't use it. Good for you. Good for them.

                                                                                                1. re: chicgail
                                                                                                  Firegoat Jul 9, 2013 01:31 PM

                                                                                                  I grew up disliking beans. Finally decided I liked Baked Beans after having some Bush's beans.

                                                                                                2. re: Firegoat
                                                                                                  gaffk Jul 9, 2013 01:36 PM

                                                                                                  Yeah, I had to check too. B&M Original (in the jar) just uses sugar and molasses.

                                                                                              2. re: pine time
                                                                                                monavano Jul 9, 2013 02:05 PM

                                                                                                Just a guess, but now that we're talking about how much sugar canned beans have, maybe the beans Chad used were an unfamiliar brand and in the heat of the challenge, he didn't think to looks at the preexisting sugar content before he added his own.

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                                                                                                  DGresh Jul 9, 2013 02:48 PM

                                                                                                  I don't think that canned *beans* ever have sugar. It's canned baked beans, and I can't imagine he started with those.

                                                                                                  1. re: DGresh
                                                                                                    monavano Jul 9, 2013 03:01 PM

                                                                                                    Well then, that would be worse.
                                                                                                    I must have been thinking of PW's "Best Baked Beans".

                                                                                              3. re: chicgail
                                                                                                monavano Jul 9, 2013 09:38 AM

                                                                                                I've been a label reader for a long time, but only recently started to dissect baked bean labels because we eat it infrequently, but I think I was in denial.
                                                                                                I have been paying more attention lately, but settle for the best of the worst, nutritionally!

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                                                                                                  pine time Jul 9, 2013 01:21 PM

                                                                                                  Monavano--I stand in the grocery store and compare every brand's sugar level. The least amount of sugar is the one I buy. Heck, when I make them from scratch, which is most of the time, I use "maybe" 2 Tbl. of brown sugar, if even that much.

                                                                                              4. re: pine time
                                                                                                monavano Jul 9, 2013 09:36 AM

                                                                                                Amen to that!

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