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What cookbooks have you bought lately, or are you lusting after? July, 2013 edition (through July 31, 2013)

buttertart Jul 1, 2013 07:45 AM

Hello all and HAPPY CANADA DAY! Nice that it fell on a Monday this year. I haven't been buying books for a bit, I've been catching up with my oldies. That "From a Southern Oven" by the magnificent Jean Anderson is one. It's impossible to pick that up without getting extremely hungry. How about you, what's on your bedside table, kitchen counter, or on your mind these days?

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    Siegal RE: buttertart Jul 1, 2013 09:28 AM

    I bought gran cocina Latina a few months ago. I got it just when morning sickness kicked in but read it cover to cover 3 times anyway. Now 4 months later I try to cook from it but can't!!! I get nausea flashbacks so it just sits by my bed as I will myself to make some rice and beans....sigh...maybe next month

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      dkennedy RE: Siegal Jul 15, 2013 06:37 AM

      I found the only cure for morning sickness was having a baby. I did get a lot of reading done though!

    2. LulusMom RE: buttertart Jul 1, 2013 03:57 PM

      I was just in the Museum of the American Indian (I think I have the name right) which has a pretty highly regarded restaurant and saw that there was a cookbook for it. I had to make myself walk by it very, very quickly. But part of me is still saying "ok, next time I'm in DC ..." Has anyone cooked from this book?

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        Gio RE: LulusMom Jul 1, 2013 04:07 PM

        The Mitssitam Cookbook:

        I've been wavering on this for a few months now. I've had the Spirit of the Harvest: North American Indian Cooking by Beverly Cox and Martin Jacobs for years and don't remember if I've ever cooked from it. Lately, though, I've been thinking it, or another, would make a fine COTM one of these months.

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          meatn3 RE: Gio Jul 15, 2013 05:56 AM

          I've had Spirit of the Harvest for about 20 years. It is a beautiful book but I don't think I've cooked from it either. Initially many of the ingredients were hard to source for me. I should reassess since 20 years has changed the ease of finding most items.

          I think a Native American COTM, highlighting several books, would be great! Nice idea Gio!

        2. re: LulusMom
          tcamp RE: LulusMom Jul 15, 2013 06:11 AM

          The Mitsitam Café Cookbook is really good! I've borrowed a friend's copy several times and made pork tacos, a quinoa salad, and the squash blossom soup.

          Sorry, I'm not helping: http://www.amazon.com/The-Mitsitam-Ca...

          1. re: LulusMom
            dkennedy RE: LulusMom Jul 15, 2013 06:44 AM

            This has been on my radar for some time. Hmmmm.

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              dkennedy RE: dkennedy Jul 16, 2013 10:30 AM

              I have it on order from the library but alas I bought the Smithsonian Cookbook One Fish, Two Fish, Crawfish, Bluefish. I am always game for another fish book.

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                LulusMom RE: dkennedy Jul 16, 2013 11:08 AM

                I should see if my library has it. I ended up joining the Smithsonian so I'll get a discount on it if I end up loving it and needing it. That does not, however, help on the whole bookshelf space problem.

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                  dkennedy RE: LulusMom Jul 19, 2013 05:06 PM

                  Just picked up my copy of The Misitam Cafe Cookbook from the library. I checked it out along with 3 others. This one is far and away the best one of the lot. I must own this book. As I paged through it, I literally wanted to make each and every recipe. I will be spending more time with this one over the next 3 weeks and will report back how the actual recipes fare compared to the way they sound on paper.

                  The other 3 books are Med Harvest (which is currently a contender for COTM); Ploughman's Lunch, and Bread Baker's Apprentice. I am glad I checked those other ones out, because though they are interesting, I do not need to own any of them.

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                    buttertart RE: dkennedy Jul 19, 2013 05:09 PM

                    Of Reinhart's books, the one I love is Crust and Crumb.

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                      roxlet RE: buttertart Jul 19, 2013 05:10 PM

                      I don't have that one, but I think I keep Breadbaker's Apprentice because there is just something about the cover photo that I love!

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                        buttertart RE: roxlet Jul 19, 2013 05:14 PM

                        It is nice. I must have another look at it.

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                          dkennedy RE: roxlet Jul 19, 2013 05:15 PM

                          The Breadbaker's Apprentice is an amazing book. I am not a baker, and I am def. not a bread baker so this is way, way, above my comfort zone. But I do plan on reading it cover to cover b4 returning it so I learn something. I may attempt to make my own epis, but that is about it.

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                        LulusMom RE: dkennedy Jul 20, 2013 05:53 AM

                        Not sure whether to be happy with this news or not dkennedy (kidding). I will look forward to hearing about what you make from the book and how it turns out.

              2. emily RE: buttertart Jul 2, 2013 09:10 AM

                Barbecue Crossroads: Notes and Recipes from a Southern Odyssey (Robb Walsh)

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                  buttertart RE: emily Jul 2, 2013 04:12 PM

                  Robb Walsh is always worth reading.

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                    TrishaCP RE: buttertart Jul 6, 2013 06:01 AM

                    Just ordered Texas Eats- on sale at The Good Cook.

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                    MelMM RE: emily Jul 25, 2013 06:05 AM

                    I recently purchased this as well, and also his new hot sauce book . I love Robb Walsh's writing and recipes, and have all of his books. Every time I read something of his or hear him interviewed, I always find myself nodding my head in agreement. He gets it right.

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                    rasputina RE: buttertart Jul 2, 2013 09:50 AM

                    I preordered the Picayune's Creole Cook Book ( 1901 second edition reprint hardcover) that comes out in 2 weeks.

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                      rmarisco RE: rasputina Jul 21, 2013 02:53 PM

                      Oh my gosh! I have this on my shelf! I don't think it's a 1901 edition though.. i'll have to look. It was my mom's so I inherited it. Never even THOUGHT to actually cook from it!

                    2. poptart RE: buttertart Jul 2, 2013 11:28 AM

                      just bought:

                      Nordic Bakery (drooling reading that one!)
                      Best Quick Breads by Beth Hensperger
                      Balanced Plate by Renee Loux

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                        merry693 RE: buttertart Jul 5, 2013 07:57 PM

                        Baking with Julia
                        The Neighborhood BakeShop
                        Chocolate and Vanilla
                        Icing the Cake

                        1. Breadcrumbs RE: buttertart Jul 7, 2013 02:05 PM

                          One yard sale for charity. Seven cookbooks. $10

                          BAKING WITH JULIA - Dorie Greenspan

                          NEW COVENT GARDEN SOUP CO BOOK OF SOUPS

                          GOTHAM BAR AND GRILL COOKBOOK - by Alfred Portale

                          JULIA'S KITCHEN WISDOM - Julia Child

                          A MAN AND HIS MEATBALLS - John LaFemina

                          EMERIL'S POTLUCK - Emeril Lagasse

                          ASIAN INGREDIENTS - Bruce Cost

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                            buttertart RE: Breadcrumbs Jul 7, 2013 04:10 PM

                            You kill me, yet again.

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                              roxlet RE: Breadcrumbs Jul 7, 2013 04:25 PM


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                                LulusMom RE: Breadcrumbs Jul 7, 2013 04:32 PM

                                I've made a few good things from the Gotham book.

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                                  Westy RE: LulusMom Jul 15, 2013 06:03 AM

                                  His duck breast with dipping sauce is outstanding. Always gts rave reviews. It is a great book as long as you don't convince yourself your food needs to be "vertical."

                                  I have and like Simple Pleasures.

                                  I also ordered hisother book (12 months or 12 12 seasons - I forget which). Gotta love used books.

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                                  rmarisco RE: Breadcrumbs Jul 12, 2013 05:09 PM

                                  i have a book by alfred portale called simple pleasures. I LOVe it! he has this wonderful casual elegant style. He should be more popular: my mom got this book on some remainder table for $5-6!

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                                    rstuart RE: Breadcrumbs Jul 15, 2013 07:11 PM

                                    How do you do it? There is obviously a higher quality of yard sale where you live. Or maybe I need to get up earlier on week-end..

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                                      Westy RE: rstuart Jul 16, 2013 05:30 AM

                                      Nope. I just use Amazon.com. Look up older books, scroll down, and often enough.... $.01+ shipping.

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                                      Ruthie789 RE: Breadcrumbs Jul 16, 2013 05:50 AM

                                      I have been hoping to come across Baking with Julia for quite sometime. Lucky you! I just might have to order it on line. It has become somewhat of a quest for me.
                                      I have found a great second hand bookstore (again) and have purchased The Breakfast Book by Marion Cunningham for $3.50.
                                      Second hand shops, tag sales are great places to purchase cookbooks of all sorts.

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                                        dkennedy RE: Breadcrumbs Jul 16, 2013 11:15 AM

                                        Who are your neighbors? Do you live in a culinary mecca?

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                                          rmarisco RE: Breadcrumbs Jul 21, 2013 02:55 PM

                                          you got at least 4 sure winners in there: dorie greenspan, alfred portale, bruce cost and julia.. Well played!

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                                            Breadcrumbs RE: rmarisco Jul 21, 2013 04:09 PM

                                            Thanks rmaisco. I was looking through Gotham this morning and I was so excited by the great recipes I saw!!

                                        2. roxlet RE: buttertart Jul 8, 2013 05:24 PM

                                          Patisserie at Home by Will Torrent. It's a lovely book, and lavishly illustrated with a color photo for each patisserie. It fills a hole in my baking collection.

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                                            buttertart RE: roxlet Jul 9, 2013 08:20 AM

                                            I want that one A LOT!!!

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                                              roxlet RE: buttertart Jul 9, 2013 08:37 AM

                                              Under $20 on Amazon

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                                                buttertart RE: roxlet Jul 9, 2013 08:39 AM

                                                Hmm...didn't I see a link to some of the recipes somewhere?

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                                                  roxlet RE: buttertart Jul 9, 2013 08:57 AM

                                                  $18.37, to be exact...

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                                              Ruthie789 RE: roxlet Jul 16, 2013 05:51 AM

                                              I bought this book a few weeks ago. It kept calling to me from the shelf at Chapters. It is quite a lovely book indeed and for anyone who wants to expand on baking skills, I consider it to be a good guide. I liked that it is in both Metric and Imperial measures.

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                                                rstuart RE: Ruthie789 Jul 16, 2013 05:59 PM

                                                I was just at Chapters at the Eaton Centre, and they appear to have every Australian Women's Weekly ever made for $5.. I was sorely tempted to buy at least 6, but showed super-human restraint and did not buy anything...


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                                                  Ruthie789 RE: rstuart Jul 17, 2013 08:37 AM

                                                  I have been going through the same promotion at the Chapter's in Pointe Claire. They also have some for $2.00 if slightly damaged. I keep looking at them, they beckon......YET, is a telling word!
                                                  Our Chapters has moved all of the cookbooks except the promotional ones to the back of the store where the lighting is poor and I am not as eager to buy, but still manage to do so.

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                                                    rstuart RE: Ruthie789 Jul 18, 2013 06:27 PM

                                                    The cookbook section in the Eaton Centre one is very alluring!! I am sure that my resolve will break soon.. they have a healthy vegetarian one that looks nice..

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                                                      Ruthie789 RE: rstuart Jul 19, 2013 03:59 AM

                                                      Almost folded on the hard covered Slow Cooker one, still calling to me.

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                                                        rstuart RE: Ruthie789 Jul 19, 2013 03:33 PM

                                                        I suspect that I will be back next week!

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                                                          Ruthie789 RE: rstuart Jul 19, 2013 06:24 PM

                                                          I am lured to Chapters at least three times a week and the one in my area closes late and is open on legal holidays.

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                                                            Ruthie789 RE: rstuart Jul 21, 2013 05:09 PM

                                                            Folded and bought Quick Mix Cakes, Little Squares and Slices and now the other ones are calling too.....They are $13.00 and selling for $5.00...

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                                                              rstuart RE: Ruthie789 Jul 21, 2013 06:16 PM

                                                              I suspect that I will also be there this week! I bought little squares and slices last month.

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                                                                Ruthie789 RE: rstuart Jul 22, 2013 04:53 AM

                                                                I love the squares and slices. The cake book is somewhat different lots of recipes with nuts, hazelnuts etc.

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                                                klyeoh RE: buttertart Jul 9, 2013 08:56 AM

                                                I was in Hungary for a couple of weeks and tasted some absolutely delicious food there. Bought Hargitai György's Hungarian Cuisine (Publisher: Media Nova), which was great in detailing what went into each of those dishes and how to reproduce them back home.

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                                                  qianning RE: klyeoh Jul 21, 2013 02:49 PM

                                                  You find the most interesting books during your travels. Anyone know how this book compares to George Lang's "Cuisine of Hungary"?....

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                                                    klyeoh RE: qianning Jul 21, 2013 10:26 PM

                                                    George Lang's a legend - as with everything he did, I'm sure his cookbook's a *lavish* product - in this case, a loving tribute to his Hungarian heritage and its rich cuisine.

                                                    The cookbook I bought in Budapest, on the other hand, looked very much like an everyday collection of home-style recipes, some of which seemed impossibly simple and rustic.

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                                                      qianning RE: klyeoh Jul 22, 2013 05:23 AM

                                                      "impossibly simple and rustic" sounds very good. Lang's book definitely tends toward the major production side, often with good results, but still....

                                                2. rainbowbrown RE: buttertart Jul 12, 2013 04:47 PM

                                                  Just placed an order for: Stir and Smoke & Pickles - because you all seem to be buying them and I was jealous, the Rancho Gordo cookbook - because I've always wanted it, and Count Zero - which isn't a cookbook, but a science fiction novel. I'm almost done with Neuromancer, so you know.

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                                                    wabi RE: rainbowbrown Jul 14, 2013 09:37 PM

                                                    Make sure you read Mona Lisa Overdrive too. Gibson rocks.

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                                                      pagesinthesun RE: rainbowbrown Jul 14, 2013 10:28 PM

                                                      I've enjoyed recipes from Rancho Gordo very much.

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                                                        dkennedy RE: rainbowbrown Jul 15, 2013 06:46 AM

                                                        Is this the Rancho Gordo book you mean?


                                                        I've heard talk of it, but I am not sure if this is what everyone is talking about. Please clarify if it is not. Thanks.

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                                                          rainbowbrown RE: dkennedy Jul 15, 2013 07:42 AM

                                                          Yes, that is the book I mean. The heirloom bean cookbook. I like the style of the recipes they have posted on their website, so I think this book might be really neat.

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                                                            dkennedy RE: rainbowbrown Jul 15, 2013 07:52 AM

                                                            Thank you for clarifying. When you have had a chance to cook out of it, let us know how you like it.

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                                                              rainbowbrown RE: dkennedy Jul 15, 2013 08:29 PM

                                                              I sure will. Can't wait to get it.

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                                                              jpr54_1 RE: rainbowbrown Jul 15, 2013 08:34 AM

                                                              I enjoy using the book

                                                        2. Gio RE: buttertart Jul 12, 2013 05:07 PM

                                                          My latest reckless and impromptu purchases after I said I wouldn't:

                                                          Smoke and Pickles: Recipes and Stories from a New Southern Kitchen by Edward Lee. Southern with a Korean accent.

                                                          Never-ending Summer by Julie Biuso. Global with a New Zealand accent.

                                                          Apparently I have no self discipline at all.

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                                                            buttertart RE: Gio Jul 12, 2013 05:29 PM

                                                            You will like the Lee a whole bunch.

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                                                              Tom from Raleigh RE: buttertart Jul 17, 2013 05:45 PM

                                                              We've cooked 2 recipes from Smoke & Pickles and both were truly great. They were the BBQ lamb (we used goat) and the tuna bowl.

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                                                                JoanN RE: Tom from Raleigh Jul 18, 2013 06:16 AM

                                                                I've been eying that BBQ lamb recipe but don't have access to an outdoor grill. He says it can be cooked in an oven. What do you think? Would too much of the character of the dish be lost without the smokey element? (BTW, The Vietnamese Lamb Chops were pretty damned great, too.)

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                                                              Westy RE: Gio Jul 15, 2013 06:04 AM

                                                              How do you like "Neverending Summer"?

                                                              If you like Kiwi food, i bought one called "Soul Cafe." Very good. I like it, except some of the ingredients (especially fish) are unique to NZ.

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                                                                Gio RE: Westy Jul 15, 2013 07:50 AM

                                                                Hi Westy... The book shipped 12 July and hasn't arrived yet. I have it listed at Eat Your Books site and from the recipe listing I can see I'm probably going to like most of the main dish recipes and the vegetables. When it arrives and I have had a chance to look through it I'll report back.


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                                                                  qianning RE: Gio Jul 21, 2013 02:51 PM

                                                                  I'm another one looking forward to a report on "Endless Summer", please.

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                                                                    MelMM RE: Gio Jul 25, 2013 06:22 AM

                                                                    My copy of Neverending Summer arrive a couple days ago. Haven't made anything, but looking through it, there is much that appeals. In some ways, the concept is a bit like this months COTM, in that there are chapters like "Things on Sticks" and "Served in a Bowl", but the recipes in this book appeal to me a bit more, and the recipes seem to have more of a Mediterranean and Asian influence.

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                                                                      Gio RE: MelMM Jul 25, 2013 06:48 AM

                                                                      The recipes are more appealing to me too, Mel. A few nights ago G was able to put together, all by himself I might add, the Quesadilla recipe and it was delicious. Spicy sausages (chicken w/rabe), fire-roasted corn kernels, salsa, cilantro, chili, and chevre with sour cream.

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                                                                  MelMM RE: Gio Jul 25, 2013 06:13 AM

                                                                  I've been enjoying Smoke and Pickles very much. So far I've made some corn pancakes with a lime molasses sauce (which I think I reported on elsewhere), some caraway seed pickles (excellent), and last night the okra tempura with remoulade (also excellent). I had an interesting comparison, because I'd made a remoulade from the current COTM the night before, and Mr. MM and I both agreed Lee's was an order of magnitude better. I think this book is worth buying for the pickles alone.

                                                                  My only complaint with Mr. Lee is that he fails my "ambrosia test". That is, he claims it needs to be reinvented. Wrong answer! It is an old creole recipe dating back to the 1800's, and needs to be rediscovered in its true form and rescued, but not reinvented. But that is a pet peeve of mine.

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                                                                    JoanN RE: MelMM Jul 25, 2013 06:26 AM

                                                                    I've made about 7 dishes from the book so far but last night put up my first batch of pickles, the Bourbon-Pickled Jalapenos. They're two days from ready, when I plan to serve them with his Honey-Glazed Roast Duck. I haven't tasted them yet, but the aroma is divine.

                                                                    Thrilled to hear about the remoulade since it's the basis for a number of sauces that sound very appealing.

                                                                    I have so many new cookbooks, but they're languishing as this one receives nearly all my attention.

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                                                                      Gio RE: MelMM Jul 25, 2013 06:51 AM

                                                                      I've been expecting S & P everyday this week and am getting Very antsy.

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                                                                        meatn3 RE: MelMM Jul 25, 2013 07:50 AM

                                                                        I've been getting more and more interested in this book but your post pushed it into the MUST GET list!

                                                                        Once I return home I see a book order being made.

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                                                                          herby RE: MelMM Jul 25, 2013 09:35 AM

                                                                          Mel and other lovers of Smoke and Pickles almost got me to buy the book but I came to my senses, checked the library and put a hold on it instead :) Looking forward to reading and cooking.

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                                                                            JoanN RE: herby Jul 25, 2013 10:23 AM

                                                                            I'm absolutely loving the book. But for reasons stated elsewhere, that I can't find right now, it's not for everyone. I think it's a good idea to take a look at it first if at all possible. It's idiosyncratic, for sure.

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                                                                              herby RE: JoanN Jul 25, 2013 12:36 PM

                                                                              Hopefully I will have it this weekend and will post my take on it after a good read and a couple of dishes. I know that you love it, Joan :)

                                                                          2. re: MelMM
                                                                            MelMM RE: MelMM Jul 26, 2013 03:41 AM

                                                                            Another dish made from Smoke & Pickles: the Southern Fried Rice. It calls for black-eyed peas (I used fresh crowder peas), corn, bell pepper, tomato and scallions, all of which were in my last CSA box. See, now that's the kind of recipe I can use! I spiced my version up a bit from Mr. Lee's version, by adding some cayenne, sichuan peppercorns, and finishing with chile oil (Dunlop's). Next time I would include some ginger. Fun recipe, with endless possibilities for variation.

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                                                                              buttertart RE: MelMM Jul 26, 2013 01:09 PM


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                                                                              nomadchowwoman RE: MelMM Jul 27, 2013 02:18 PM

                                                                              I've also been enthralled by this book although I've only tried one recipe so far, the Vietnamese lamb chops.
                                                                              Sheer reading pleasure--besides being an innovative chef, Lee is a gifted writer and storyteller.

                                                                          3. pagesinthesun RE: buttertart Jul 14, 2013 10:30 PM

                                                                            I just Flour Water Salt Yeast in anticipation of my trip to Portland over Labor Day weekend.

                                                                            I'm not much of a baker, but do enjoy making pizza dough. I also just made a sourdough starter (I think) over the past few weeks.

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                                                                              roxlet RE: pagesinthesun Jul 15, 2013 05:57 AM

                                                                              I like that book a lot, though I haven't cooked from it at all yet. I like the specificity of his directions.

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                                                                                Njchicaa RE: pagesinthesun Jul 15, 2013 08:45 AM

                                                                                I'm intimidated by this book! Still have to buy the proofing baskets and tubs so I haven't made anything from it yet.

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                                                                                  roxlet RE: Njchicaa Jul 16, 2013 04:53 AM

                                                                                  Just use bowls! I haven't baked from it because I refuse to turn on the oven until it cools down!

                                                                              2. tcamp RE: buttertart Jul 15, 2013 06:14 AM

                                                                                I'm still lusting after Jerusalem. I've had it out from the library several times and am not yet done with it. Plus, NYT is doing the book on Recipe Lab, increasing my lust factor.

                                                                                This time of year, I'm mainly referring to my vegetable cookbooks and am attracted to any new ones I see, e.g. Vegetable Literacy.

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                                                                                  pagesinthesun RE: tcamp Jul 15, 2013 09:08 PM

                                                                                  Love Vegetable Literacy!

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                                                                                    Vinnie Vidimangi RE: tcamp Aug 31, 2013 08:17 PM

                                                                                    The Jerusalem authors are full of themselves and each other. Overwrought recipes and too much oil lubricant, at least the ones we tried.

                                                                                  2. Caitlin McGrath RE: buttertart Jul 15, 2013 11:32 PM

                                                                                    Thanks to a post in one of the baking threads, I have Sugar and Spice: Sweets and Treats from Around the World, by Gaitri Pagrach-Chandra, out from the library.

                                                                                    The author has an interesting background. She is ethnically Indian and grew up on sugar plantations in Guyana, the descendant of ancestors who were brought from India as indentured laborers. She attended university in Nova Scotia, with study abroad in Salamanca, and now lives in the Netherlands and is married to a Dutch Jew. The recipes reflect all this, including North American, Caribbean, Indian, Spanish, Dutch, and other European sweets.

                                                                                    The recipes are largely for candies and confections, and small baked goods like shortbread and other cookies, brownies, tartlets, and petit fours. Candy chapters cover caramels, nougats, brittles, milk sweets, truffles, other chocolates. There's a whole chapter on marzipan, with recipes for homemade versions with various nuts (almond, pistachio, and Indian-style cashew), and confections made with marzipan.

                                                                                    I'm on a serious cookbook-buying fast due to lack of space (I really need to lose some before I bring anything else in), but there are a lot of really appealing recipes here, and plenty of great candidates for holiday treat-making. I've already committed myself to one, Amarena cherries covered with marzipan and enrobed in dark chocolate (I swoon, and I know my audience, and they will, too).

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                                                                                      emily RE: Caitlin McGrath Jul 16, 2013 07:08 AM

                                                                                      She has another book that focuses in baking that's very interesting, as well.

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                                                                                        buttertart RE: Caitlin McGrath Jul 16, 2013 10:46 AM

                                                                                        I've requested that book from my library and will look into the baking one. Wow, what a background!

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                                                                                          limoen RE: Caitlin McGrath Jul 17, 2013 02:09 PM

                                                                                          Sugar and Spice sounds amazing! I have added it to my wish list. The recipes look unusual and interesting and I am interested in making homemade treats for Christmas this year. Like you, I think this would be great for that!

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                                                                                          Westminstress RE: buttertart Jul 17, 2013 07:18 AM

                                                                                          Ouch, these and the COTM nomination threads are dangerous! My recent acquisitions include:

                                                                                          VEGETABLE LITERACY
                                                                                          MEDITERRANEAN HARVEST (sucked in by $1 price tag, still not sure which book I'll vote for for COTM)

                                                                                          and waiting for me at the library is:
                                                                                          FRANNYS: SIMPLE, SEASONAL, ITALIAN
                                                                                          I am very curious about this one as this is one of my very favorite restaurants.

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                                                                                            tcamp RE: Westminstress Jul 17, 2013 07:24 AM

                                                                                            Those are all three good buys. I have VL and MH from the library right now and feel I really should own them. Will power waning fast....

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                                                                                              Westminstress RE: tcamp Jul 17, 2013 08:39 AM

                                                                                              There's a VL thread going, will you post to it if youve made anything nice?

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                                                                                              Westminstress RE: Westminstress Aug 1, 2013 07:31 AM

                                                                                              I wanted to report back on a couple of these books.

                                                                                              VEGETABLE LITERACY -- I love this book and am so glad I bought it! I have been reading it very very slowly, just a little bit every day. There is much interesting information and a very many appealing recipes, I have lots marked to try. In fact I had one lined up for this week, Melon and Cucumber Salad with Black Pepper and Mint (doesn't that sound good?), but somebody ate up all the melon before I could get to it! Most are quite simple ways to showcase a vegetable, not as a main course, but as a component of a larger meal which could be vegetarian or not. Lots of interesting flavor combinations. I think this book would make a great COTM one day.

                                                                                              FRANNYS -- I had time to make a few recipes before needing to return the book to the library. Two were good and one was great. This is definitely a "restaurant" kind of book, and that is both good and bad. Very large quantities of olive oil in all the dishes, I ended up reducing the olive oil amounts by half and I still used plenty of oil! Techniques can be a bit fiddly -- I think they should have been streamlined a bit more for the home kitchen. I'm a bit disappointed Melissa Clark didn't do a bit more of that (I would have expected that from her).

                                                                                              The book is very exacting in terms of specifying high-end, hard to find ingredients -- this is both helpful and annoying. For example, it is both helpful and annoying to know that the key to their success with zucchini dishes is using a particular cultivar, romanesco zucchini, that is much more dense/less watery with fewer seeds. The growers at my farmers market grow quite a few different varieties of summer squash but I have yet to see this particular variety. (But noting that Deborah Madison, in Veg Literacy, also praises this particular cultivar -- if I had a garden, I'd grow this one!).

                                                                                              Two of the best things at Franny's are the pizza and the gelato. Unfortunately, I don't make either of these items at home. If I did, I would definitely buy this book. The pizza recipes look great and I'm sure they would be successful for someone who has a normal modern oven and broiler and wants to produce absolutely fantastic pizza at home. Ditto with the gelato -- I would urge anyone who likes homemade ice cream to try these recipes, especially the nut flavors. I've never had better hazelnut, pistachio or almond gelato than what I get at Franny's, and if these recipes come at all close to the restaurant version you will be very, very happy.

                                                                                              The recipe that I made that turned out the best was a simple one of Green Beans with Garlic, Chile and Lemon. The beans were sauteed in copious olive oil in a hot pan until tender, then removed and into the pan goes chopped garlic, then chile flakes, then lemon juice. This sauce is then poured over the beans for serving. Simple combo, but these were some of the most delicious green beans I've made. I really loved them cooked this way.

                                                                                              In the end I decided that I don't need this book, or at least, I don't need it now. Maybe if I get an ice cream maker I will change my mind.

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                                                                                              DatatheAndroid RE: buttertart Jul 17, 2013 01:00 PM

                                                                                              I added some of the cookbooks on my want to buy list after reading some of the comments on here. Most of the cookbooks on my list are from Amazon searches though. If you guys have any comments about the cookbooks that I have added, I would love to hear them. :)

                                                                                              Chef Paul Prudhomme's Louisiana Kitchen, Smoke & Pickles, New Complete Techniques - Jacques Pepin, Essential Pepin, Bon Appetit Desserts, The Flavor Bible, The King Arthur Flour Baker's Companion, New Orleans Food, The New Orleans Cookbook, Korean Cookbook: A Twist on the Traditional, The Bon Appetit Cookbook, Mastering the Art of French Cooking Vol. 1&2.

                                                                                              Bouchon Bakery, Tartine, Truly Mexican: Essential Recipes & Techniques, My Sweet Mexico, Burma: Rivers of Flavor, Harumi's Japanese Home Cooking, The Korean Table: From Barbecue to Bibimbap, The Picayune's Creole Cookbook, Joy of Cooking, Cook with Jamie, How to Cook Everything, Delia's How to Cook, The Way to Cook, The Brown Betty Cookbook.

                                                                                              Presented by Southern Living: Big Book of Cupcakes, Bon Appetit Y'all, Plantation Cookbook - Junior League of New Orleans, Mardi Gras to Mistletoe: A Cookbook of Festive Favories, Vintage Cakes, The Professional Chef - The Culinary Institute of America, Sugar and Spice, Dining In - Gerry Garvin, The Bread Bible, The Science of Good Cooking, Down Home with the Neelys.

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                                                                                              1. re: DatatheAndroid
                                                                                                Gio RE: DatatheAndroid Jul 17, 2013 01:58 PM

                                                                                                That's quite a library you've amassed. I have the following books from your list:

                                                                                                Chef Paul Prudhomme's Louisiana Kitchen - Love
                                                                                                Smoke & Pickles - New, hasn't arrived yet but like what I've read.
                                                                                                Essential Pepin - Love
                                                                                                Mastering the Art of French Cooking Vol. 1&2 - Love & Love.
                                                                                                Burma: Rivers of Flavor - Love
                                                                                                Joy of Cooking - Like. Good reference book.
                                                                                                Bon Appetit Y'all - Love

                                                                                                Short and sweet , I know, but the books I've "Loved" are wonderful examples of well written, satisfaction producing recipes. Each is in it's own special category, as far as I'm concerned quite individualistic and, I've made many delicious meals from them.

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                                                                                                  DatatheAndroid RE: Gio Jul 17, 2013 02:42 PM

                                                                                                  Sorry I should have been more clear. It is actually my want to buy these list. I only have one cookbook right now. I have edited my comment. Short and sweet works, I don't mind. :D I really appreciate your opinion, thanks for commenting. I don't really want to buy Joy of Cooking, but I heard that it is a good starting point, so I have decided to buy it.

                                                                                                  1. re: DatatheAndroid
                                                                                                    JoanN RE: DatatheAndroid Jul 18, 2013 06:20 AM

                                                                                                    I wouldn't buy Joy of Cooking. At least, not one of the more recent editions. Those of us who grew up with earlier editions have favorite recipes, know the book well, and probably use it more for reference than for recipes. But in my opinion there are now better all-around composite books and better learning books, if that's what you're looking for.

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                                                                                                      Westminstress RE: JoanN Jul 18, 2013 06:25 AM

                                                                                                      Totally agree. I have a copy of that book, but absolutely never use it. I mean never. Instead, why not buy something that really interests you? You will have more fun and probably learn more as well.

                                                                                                      1. re: JoanN
                                                                                                        Ruthie789 RE: JoanN Jul 18, 2013 06:54 AM

                                                                                                        You can pick up older versions at many yard and tag sales. It is a great reference book especially for beginners. It is also extensive in terms of recipes.

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                                                                                                          rstuart RE: Ruthie789 Jul 18, 2013 06:29 PM

                                                                                                          The older versions are also useful for sheer entertainment value.. mine has a recipe for beaver.
                                                                                                          But I do consult it when I want to look up something simple..

                                                                                                          1. re: rstuart
                                                                                                            Ruthie789 RE: rstuart Jul 19, 2013 04:03 AM

                                                                                                            Yes gamey meets are in the old version. Anthony Bourdain did a feature on Montreal, and featured Martin Picard who cooked up a beaver. It was somewhat hard to watch but A.B. claimed it was delicious.....The show on Montreal was really good.

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                                                                                                              nomadchowwoman RE: Ruthie789 Jul 19, 2013 10:10 AM

                                                                                                              I thought that particular episode was fantastic. My mother was born in those parts, but I know she never ate beaver!

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                                                                                                                buttertart RE: nomadchowwoman Jul 19, 2013 10:28 AM

                                                                                                                I'm from Canada and no one eats beaver as far as I know unless showing off or in direst straits. I believe you can only eat the tail. And if you're doing that, why not have one of these instead?

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                                                                                                                  nomadchowwoman RE: buttertart Jul 19, 2013 01:59 PM

                                                                                                                  A much more palatable alternative indeed!

                                                                                                                  (And I should have clarified--it definitely was not the beaver that made that episode so terrific.)

                                                                                                                  1. re: nomadchowwoman
                                                                                                                    DatatheAndroid RE: nomadchowwoman Jul 19, 2013 03:23 PM

                                                                                                                    Thanks so much for the help guys. I've decided to omit the Joy of Cooking from my list completely. I may try to find an older edition later, but I have plenty of cookbooks to pick up before then. @Westminstress. That's great advice. Some of the books I only added to my list because I read that they were good for beginners. I did pick up a copy of the Master Chef cookbook because it looked like it had some pretty good recipes, and some good tips for beginners.

                                                                                                                    I also picked up Essential Pepin because it had good reviews, and I thought that the DVD would come in handy. Some of the recipes look incredibly daunting, however. There is even a recipe that teaches you how to make a ham sandwich. I'm not sure how I will manage to make such a complicated dish. :D

                                                                                                                  2. re: buttertart
                                                                                                                    rstuart RE: buttertart Jul 19, 2013 03:36 PM

                                                                                                                    According to my JoC, you can eat a young beaver (after hanging in the cold for several days, poach in salt water for one hour, then "braise as for beef until tender"). I have no intention of testing this recipe..

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                                                                                                                      buttertart RE: rstuart Jul 19, 2013 05:01 PM

                                                                                                                      Makes my eyes water to think about it. Eat the National Animal???

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                                                                                                                        Ruthie789 RE: buttertart Jul 19, 2013 06:34 PM

                                                                                                                        They are nuisances apparently...

                                                                                                                      2. re: rstuart
                                                                                                                        Ruthie789 RE: rstuart Jul 19, 2013 06:33 PM

                                                                                                                        Me neither and would never consume squirrel, opossum, porcupine or raccoon which is on page 515 of my 1975 version. Pioneer woman I am not! The squirrel recipe has illustrations....awful.

                                                                                                                      3. re: buttertart
                                                                                                                        Ruthie789 RE: buttertart Jul 19, 2013 06:29 PM

                                                                                                                        Martin Picard otherwise known as the Wild Chef cooks a lot of game. I like the pastry version. I am not much of a meat eater.

                                                                                                                      4. re: nomadchowwoman
                                                                                                                        Ruthie789 RE: nomadchowwoman Jul 19, 2013 06:26 PM

                                                                                                                        As a Montrealer I did think it was an amazing show and then he moved on to my favorite city, Quebec city.

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                                                                                                                        Ruthie789 RE: Ruthie789 Jul 19, 2013 06:39 PM

                                                                                                                        I meant meats...

                                                                                                            2. re: DatatheAndroid
                                                                                                              nomadchowwoman RE: DatatheAndroid Jul 18, 2013 08:09 AM

                                                                                                              I have almost half those those cookbooks on my shelf, so I'll weigh in on a few. I'm from New Orleans, and my favorite NOLA cookbook is the Colins' "New Orleans Cookbook." I also love Paul Prudhomme's LK for Cajun cooking. I really love "Burma," much more than I expected to.

                                                                                                              While I think Julia Child's MtAoFC belongs in any serious cookbook collection, I think her "The Way to Cook" is less intimidating, more user-friendly (and has photos!). I use it much more often. I do own an older "Joy of Cooking," and I consult it from time to time, but I have very rarely actually cooked from it.

                                                                                                              I think by shopping for used bargains on Amazon (or if you have access to a thrift store with a good selection, that could be a great resource) is a great way to build your library.
                                                                                                              I've been happy with the couple of recipes I've tried from "Truly Mexican" and the one I've tried from "Japanese Home Cooking." I'm not a great baker, but do like the King Arthur book.

                                                                                                              The one book on your list with which I have experience and which I don't like very much is "HTCook Everything," but I know many who love it.

                                                                                                              1. re: nomadchowwoman
                                                                                                                DatatheAndroid RE: nomadchowwoman Jul 19, 2013 03:43 PM

                                                                                                                That was very helpful. Thanks for the comments. :) For some reason I forgot to add it, but The Way to Cook is on my want to buy list. I will probably not wind up buying HTCE, I probably will not use it much once I have more experience in cooking.

                                                                                                                A thrift store is the best place to get cookbooks I think. Unfortunately, the area where I live does not have much of anything, so I think will have to buy most of my cookbooks online. I have checked the prices on Amazon, and they are pretty good, I just hate to think about the shipping charges, especially since some sellers do not combine shipping.

                                                                                                              2. re: DatatheAndroid
                                                                                                                Njchicaa RE: DatatheAndroid Jul 18, 2013 08:42 AM

                                                                                                                The Bon Appetit Cookbook is a good collection of everything: appetizers, soups/salads, burgers/sandwiches, entrees, sides, breads, pies/cakes, desserts. It was my first cookbook and I used it quite a lot as I taught myself how to cook. These days it mostly collects dust. Most if not all of the recipes are available for free on epicurious.com

                                                                                                                I bought How to Cook Everything because so many people raved about it but I haven't made anything from it yet. I just don't like the way that it is set up and the recipes/variations are presented. I haven't been able to bring myself to give it away yet but I probably will.

                                                                                                                I use the Down Home with the Neelys cookbook for the BBQ Ranch Salad Dressing and the Molasses Baked Beans recipes regularly. Oh and the creamed corn too. I wouldn't say that it is a must-have unless you particularly like southern BBQ-style food. I will eventually try some of the other recipes but it hasn't been a pressing matter.

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                                                                                                                  DatatheAndroid RE: Njchicaa Jul 19, 2013 03:51 PM

                                                                                                                  I like the Bon Appetit magazine, so I wanted to try the book as well. The fact that it can be purchased on Amazon for a cheap price did not hurt either. I just borrowed the Neelys cookbook as a e-book from my local library, not the Down Home one, but their 2nd cookbook I believe. If I like it, I will but it and Down Home with the Neelys. It is a little frustrating trying to find the right cookbook(s) for me, but it's fun as well. The advice you guys have given me helps a lot. Thanks again.

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                                                                                                                    LulusMom RE: DatatheAndroid Jul 20, 2013 05:55 AM

                                                                                                                    I pretty much learned to cook by using epicurious. I'd look for recipes that sounded interesting to me, and read the reports on them and try them. There is *so* much there to choose from, and it will help you narrow down what you enjoy the most. And ... it is free and doesn't take up space!

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                                                                                                                      DatatheAndroid RE: LulusMom Jul 20, 2013 12:25 PM

                                                                                                                      I've done the same thing with epicurious, except I have not tried any of the recipes yet. I prefer to have the book to look at while I'm cooking, but unfortunately space is an issue for me, so I am only going to buy cookbooks that I feel are well worth the space. Bon Appetit is at the bottom of the list. If I do wing up purchasing it, it will be when I have more space.

                                                                                                                2. re: DatatheAndroid
                                                                                                                  rmarisco RE: DatatheAndroid Jul 21, 2013 03:08 PM

                                                                                                                  i find it interesting that you have so many "compendium cooking techniques" books (such as Jacques Pepin's complete techniques) as well as more specific cultural/specialty books (such as Burma, Korea, and French/Creole).

                                                                                                                  If you are trying to amass a library for long-time use, I would recommend that you get many of these "technique" books from the library first: it's a good list, but you might feel that some of the compendiums are too generalized for your actual knowledge. For example, I was gifted the Pepin techniques book when it first came out. It's a great book..but I never open it because, after all the cooking I've done, I find I don't need to refer to a book for many of these recipe basics. I actuallly am saving it to give to one of my kids when they start their own homes! So many of these books cover (at least partially) the same ground - you might want to research them a bit before getting ALL of them. Good luck! quite an impressive list!

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                                                                                                                    DatatheAndroid RE: rmarisco Jul 22, 2013 12:44 PM

                                                                                                                    I added the cooking techniques & easy recipes cookbooks to my shopping list because I have not cooked any dishes that take a bit of time and work in years. I am trying to build up my confidence before I try anything complicated. I do not even have many good quality pieces of cookware yet. I only have a 3 oz Le Creuset casserole dish, and a 9 1/2 oz Le Creuset French oven. I added the cultural/specialty cookbooks to my list because those are the kinds of dishes that I want to make.

                                                                                                                    Getting them from the library is a great idea, unfortunately I live in a very small town in Alabama with a crappy library. I'm going to hold off on buying anymore technique cookbooks until I can buy most of the cultural books on my list. Thanks, I did some research online before I added the cookbooks to my list. I wanted to make sure that I was getting my money's worth, and space is an issue as well. Thanks for the tips, I really appreciate your help. :)

                                                                                                                    1. re: DatatheAndroid
                                                                                                                      meatn3 RE: DatatheAndroid Jul 24, 2013 06:30 PM

                                                                                                                      When I lived in the middle of nowhere Tn. my very tiny library offered free inter-library loan - perhaps yours does too? I think the librarians really enjoyed patrons who read more widely than the local budget could supply.

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                                                                                                                        DatatheAndroid RE: meatn3 Jul 26, 2013 08:50 AM

                                                                                                                        I have not asked anyone who works at the library directly. Unfortunately, I cannot request books online, which is what I did when I lived in Birmingham. So I will have to go to the library directly, or call, to get the books that I want. It's a huge pain in the butt, but it is better than paying too much money for cookbooks that I may not even want to cook from.

                                                                                                                        1. re: DatatheAndroid
                                                                                                                          lbamber RE: DatatheAndroid Jul 26, 2013 09:49 AM

                                                                                                                          I have several of the books you are contemplating, and my favorite one is Paul Prudhomme's Louisiana Kitchen. I love spicy food, and his original recipes fill the bill. One of my all time favorite recipes is his shrimp creole, although it is fiery indeed, and even I have to cut back the cayenne somewhat. His remoulade is delicious, as are a hard boiled egg-based salad dressing, and a trout stuffed with crab and shrimp.

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                                                                                                                            DatatheAndroid RE: lbamber Jul 26, 2013 01:31 PM

                                                                                                                            Thanks for the reply, that is a huge help. Paul Prudhomme was not really on my want to buy list, more like my will buy list. I have always wanted to try some of his recipes, I think I saw him on TV when I was a kid. He had a lot of personality if I remember correctly.

                                                                                                                            1. re: DatatheAndroid
                                                                                                                              lbamber RE: DatatheAndroid Jul 26, 2013 09:18 PM

                                                                                                                              Glad to be of help. Many of his recipes are fairly straightforward (like the shrimp creole), but others are pretty involved (e.g., the stuffed trout). To be honest, one of the best things I learned from the book is how to make shrimp stock (shrimp heads are worth their weight in gold here, and really make a difference to the creole or gumbo). So I think it is a worthwhile investment for a newish cook.

                                                                                                                              I haven't made it in years, but there is also a seafood dirty rice recipe that I recall being quite straightforward and tasty. As someone else mentioned, the quantities of butter and cream in some of the recipes are over the top, but easily adjusted.

                                                                                                                              Happy cooking!

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                                                                                                                                JoanN RE: lbamber Jul 27, 2013 07:54 AM

                                                                                                                                I've had "Louisiana Kitchen" since it was first published and although I don't cook as much from it as I once did, his Cajun Seafood Gumbo with Andouille Smoked Sausage remains my go-to gumbo recipe, often requested by friends. And I still make his Cajun Meat Loaf, cutting back a bit on the the seasoning, probably once a year.

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                                                                                                                                  roxlet RE: JoanN Jul 27, 2013 12:47 PM

                                                                                                                                  Agree. It's a great gumbo recipe!

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                                                                                                                                    nomadchowwoman RE: JoanN Jul 27, 2013 02:05 PM

                                                                                                                                    It's the gumbo recipe, w/a few minor adjustments, that I've used since the book came out. I've tried a few others, but none measure up to Prudhomme's.

                                                                                                                                    1. re: JoanN
                                                                                                                                      beetlebug RE: JoanN Jul 28, 2013 06:42 AM

                                                                                                                                      Louisiana Kitchen was a COTM back in 2010. I remember loving the cajun meatloaf and its accompaniments (some kind of sauce?).


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                                                                                                                                        DatatheAndroid RE: beetlebug Jul 30, 2013 04:53 PM

                                                                                                                                        Thanks to you both, beetlebug and Gio. I appreciate the link to the COTM thread, I'll def. check it out. Cajun meatloaf sounds a little bit weird I'll admit, but awesome. I'll add it to the list, thanks. :)

                                                                                                                                    2. re: lbamber
                                                                                                                                      DatatheAndroid RE: lbamber Jul 27, 2013 08:11 PM

                                                                                                                                      Thanks for the responses guys, I need all the help I can get. :D I'm making a list of recipes that I want to make from some of the cookbooks that I have purchased. I'll be sure to add shrimp stock, CSGwASS, and dirty rice to the list. I have never made Cajun food before, so I want to start with his recipes before I attempt to make dishes from other Cajun cookbooks. I'll make a note about adjusting the cream/butter as well.

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                                                                                                                                        Gio RE: DatatheAndroid Jul 28, 2013 04:44 AM

                                                                                                                                        The meatloaf Joan N mentioned is terrific. Full flavored and spicy. We make it as written w/o adjusting anything...

                                                                                                                      2. nomadchowwoman RE: buttertart Jul 18, 2013 08:21 AM

                                                                                                                        I have been pretty good in 2013 and kept my resolve to not buy many cookbooks--maybe only five or six in the first half of the year. Most recently I bought the July COTM, Cindy Pawclyn's "Big Small Plates" (for a song), and, after reading the great reviews here and elsewhere, went ahead and sprung for a new copy of Edward Lee's "Smoke and Pickles." A cursory glance tells me I won't regret it. At the very least, it's going to be a great read.

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                                                                                                                        1. re: nomadchowwoman
                                                                                                                          LulusMom RE: nomadchowwoman Jul 18, 2013 10:00 AM

                                                                                                                          I think I've stuck to my "I'm not buying any more cookbooks until some books leave the house" (these books don't need to be cookbooks, but can be - we're a house full of readers so despite many built in bookshelves we're totally out of space), but I've gotten cookbooks as gifts. Strategically asked for things I was loving or really wanting for mother's day, etc. To have made it more than halfway through the year like this stuns me, but I really do need to get some books out of here before I can start indulging myself again. But oh, there are so many that I want, and Burma is sounding like it really wants me to have it.

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                                                                                                                            lilham RE: LulusMom Jul 18, 2013 11:27 AM

                                                                                                                            That is why ebook is dangerous :)

                                                                                                                            We have cleared most of our bookcase of novels. Mr lilham and I both agreed that we will never read a physical book again. What we are left with are now only rare books and my cookbook collection.

                                                                                                                            I think I am up to 7 or 8 cookbooks this year so far. And only one that is a physical book. (Donna Hay's Off the Shelf). I am still restraining myself from the buy button on the French Market Cookbook.

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                                                                                                                              lilham RE: lilham Jul 18, 2013 11:30 AM

                                                                                                                              Oh dear. Went downstairs and was greeted by Pete Evan's my grill in the kitchen. I have totally forgotten about it.

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                                                                                                                                LulusMom RE: lilham Jul 18, 2013 11:45 AM

                                                                                                                                Laughing! Yes, I've moved to e-books too, but that hasn't taken care of the problem of the already over-crowded bookshelves (and the embarrassing piles of cookbooks in the pantry - they fell over last week and my husband gave me *such* a look). Once Lulu is back in school I can go through some of what I have and give books to the library, freeing up some space. And I'm more than willing to try an e-cookbook, but it seems that most of what we've done this year as COTMs (aside from the months when I was traveling most of the month) haven't been available that way.

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                                                                                                                                  dkennedy RE: LulusMom Jul 18, 2013 12:36 PM

                                                                                                                                  I really hate cooking out of ebooks. I don't mind reading them that way, but cooking out of them is harder, especially when they have subcomponent recipes. The few I have on ebook are thoroughly bookmarked on EYB but I still feel they will remain underutilized.

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                                                                                                                                    JoanN RE: dkennedy Jul 18, 2013 12:59 PM

                                                                                                                                    Me, too. I downloaded a tapas book because they were practically giving it away and I figured it would be something I could use when I'm in Guatemala. Looked at it once while I was down there and found it so frustrating to use I never looked at it again. Recently downloaded How to Cook Everything to my iPhone just because it was free. Have the paperback of that book and practically never use it. But how could I pass up free? Figured it might come in handy one day. But not yet.

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                                                                                                                                      LulusMom RE: JoanN Jul 18, 2013 02:10 PM

                                                                                                                                      I have a feeling that I'll agree with you both, but I have to at least give it a try. And since I'll be able to look at it on my computer too, that might help me format something that I can then print out and take into the kitchen to cook from. We'll see ... Hope springs eternal.

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                                                                                                                                        lilham RE: JoanN Jul 18, 2013 02:34 PM

                                                                                                                                        I have downloaded the How to Cook Everthing app and I don't even like Bittman. Can't pass on something free!

                                                                                                                                        I have found iBooks from Apple a lot more useable than amazon kindle ones. I'm not sure why kindle versions never have a list of recipes in the table of contents. I quite like being able to see all the recipes in chapter at a glance.

                                                                                                                                        I prefer cooking from paper books, but reading ebooks. But I live in a tiny house, and only have one 2-door and 1 single door billy.

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                                                                                                                                          dkennedy RE: lilham Jul 18, 2013 02:47 PM

                                                                                                                                          Is a billy a fridge?

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                                                                                                                                            LulusMom RE: dkennedy Jul 18, 2013 02:50 PM

                                                                                                                                            An Ikea bookshelf. I've got 3 myself.

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                                                                                                                                              dkennedy RE: LulusMom Jul 18, 2013 03:12 PM


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                                                                                                                                            LulusMom RE: lilham Jul 18, 2013 02:49 PM

                                                                                                                                            If I can get rid of enough of the "reading" books, I will have enough room to buy some cookbooks. I've carted some of these around for many years, and there are some I've read time and again (Pride and Prejudice again, anyone?). But some of them could definitely go.

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                                                                                                                                              lilham RE: LulusMom Jul 19, 2013 02:46 AM

                                                                                                                                              I've downloaded Pride and Prejudice on both Kindle and iBooks. They were both free on some sort of offer. I read it over and over again too!

                                                                                                                                              1. re: lilham
                                                                                                                                                Vinnie Vidimangi RE: lilham Aug 31, 2013 08:20 PM

                                                                                                                                                Were they in the same proportions on both services?

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                                                                                                                                              MelMM RE: lilham Jul 25, 2013 06:35 AM

                                                                                                                                              I agree with you, Lilham, that the iBooks are much more user friendly for cooking. I have both a kindle and an iPad, but I only buy cookbooks through iBooks. The navigation is just much easier. I'm up to 115 cookbooks on my iPad now, including this month's COTM and Smoke and Pickles. It doesn't solve all my problems, because not all books are released in this format, but when a new books comes out, I will buy the iBook if possible.

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                                                                                                                                            buttertart RE: dkennedy Jul 18, 2013 04:27 PM

                                                                                                                                            I was cooking from a recipe on the web on my iPad (I put it in a ziplock) and it was just too annoying.

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                                                                                                                                              LulusMom RE: buttertart Jul 18, 2013 04:35 PM

                                                                                                                                              What's a girl with no bookshelf space left to do???

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                                                                                                                                                buttertart RE: LulusMom Jul 18, 2013 04:46 PM

                                                                                                                                                Pile them on every available surface.

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                                                                                                                                                  Gio RE: LulusMom Jul 18, 2013 05:47 PM

                                                                                                                                                  Bigger house?

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                                                                                                                                                    LulusMom RE: Gio Jul 19, 2013 02:35 AM

                                                                                                                                                    My husband is threatening. But I love our old, in-town house and don't want to move into a suburban McMansion.

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                                                                                                                                                rasputina RE: dkennedy Jul 22, 2013 12:00 PM

                                                                                                                                                I find it easier when there are subcomponent recipes because it's so simple to hit the back button to go back to the main recipe when you need to.

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                                                                                                                                        wattacetti RE: buttertart Jul 18, 2013 08:19 PM

                                                                                                                                        I just ordered Charcuteria by Jeffrey Weiss. Unfortunately it's publication date is March 2014 but that gives me a chance to source some really good pork (or make arrangements to raise a pig).

                                                                                                                                        1. buttertart RE: buttertart Jul 19, 2013 05:02 PM

                                                                                                                                          Austerity campaign here...library has Cake Keeper Cakes, Short and Sweet, and Stir on hold for me (and Elinor Lipman's first book of short stories and new book of essays, I love her).

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                                                                                                                                            rstuart RE: buttertart Jul 19, 2013 06:15 PM

                                                                                                                                            The library is an unemployed gal's best friend.. I spent a lot of time there while I was on strike several years ago..

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                                                                                                                                              Ruthie789 RE: rstuart Jul 19, 2013 06:36 PM

                                                                                                                                              Love the library and when I keep taking out the same book I then purchase it. Unfortunately my library does not purchase recent books.

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                                                                                                                                              herby RE: buttertart Jul 19, 2013 09:49 PM

                                                                                                                                              Made slightly changed eggplant recipe from Stir for a potluck dinner earlier in the week and everyone raved and wanted the recipe.

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                                                                                                                                                buttertart RE: herby Jul 20, 2013 02:54 PM

                                                                                                                                                I've heard nothing but good about the book.

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                                                                                                                                                  herby RE: buttertart Jul 20, 2013 02:58 PM

                                                                                                                                                  I bough Stir because I heard many good things about it here and elsewhere. Eggplant is the first dish I cooked. There will more dishes coming out of the book in near future!

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                                                                                                                                                nikkihwood RE: buttertart Jul 21, 2013 10:03 PM

                                                                                                                                                Lipman's book is wonderful! I love her as well.

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                                                                                                                                                  buttertart RE: nikkihwood Jul 22, 2013 08:16 AM

                                                                                                                                                  Terrific writer. "Sugar & Spice" was also waiting for me, and is fun -- more candy than I expected, not that I'm complaining. "Smoke and Pickles" too. Had looked at that in B&N and wanted it... oddly enough, they don't have "Flour, Too" in the county library system.

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                                                                                                                                                    roxlet RE: buttertart Jul 22, 2013 08:56 AM

                                                                                                                                                    That means you have to buy it. :)

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                                                                                                                                                      buttertart RE: roxlet Jul 22, 2013 08:57 AM

                                                                                                                                                      One of these days.

                                                                                                                                              3. Breadcrumbs RE: buttertart Jul 19, 2013 05:19 PM

                                                                                                                                                Normally I wait until my books arrive before I report on them but I'm making an exception today as a community service announcement for the bakers in the crowd...from Canada.

                                                                                                                                                Today I was reading a UK blog (link here : http://www.benpentreath.com/2013/07/1... ) and I was enchanted by the beautiful savoury pies. It turns out the pies were baked from:

                                                                                                                                                POPINA BOOK OF BAKING by Peter Cassidy

                                                                                                                                                Based on what I saw and read in the blog I was intrigued enough to want the book. Much to my amazement, it just happens to be on sale on Indigo.ca for the ridiculously low price of $6.99. See here:


                                                                                                                                                Of course I ordered it and I thought I'd share the news here in case others might be tempted to scoop this up.

                                                                                                                                                Here's some info from Amazon UK to pique your interest:

                                                                                                                                                << Popina makes award-winning organic cakes, bakes and tarts. They started out with a grant from the Prince's Trust and a stall in London's Portobello Market and have since graced the shelves of Fortnum & Mason, Waitrose, Harrods and Whole Foods Market. Popina thrives on producing hand-made, organic, additive-free sweet and savoury bakes using the finest seasonal ingredients. A small team of chefs, including a former pastry chef from Le Caprice, bake their products from scratch every day. "Popina Book of Baking" is a unique opportunity to make their artisan-style treats at home. Chapters include Biscuits, Biscotti & Bites, Sweet Tarts & Pies, Cakes & Muffins, Savoury Straws & Bites, and Savoury Tarts. There are easy, no-fuss recipes, from Ginger and Caramelized Chilli Biscuits and Fig, Apricot and Pistachio Biscotti, to Butternut Squash and Parmesan Tart. >>

                                                                                                                                                Does anyone here have this book or, have you cooked from it?

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                                                                                                                                                  buttertart RE: Breadcrumbs Jul 19, 2013 05:23 PM

                                                                                                                                                  Nope, but now I want it!

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                                                                                                                                                    Ruthie789 RE: buttertart Jul 19, 2013 06:37 PM

                                                                                                                                                    Me too!

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                                                                                                                                                    roxlet RE: Breadcrumbs Jul 19, 2013 05:25 PM

                                                                                                                                                    I'm intrigued by this too, bc. I'd like to do more savory baking. This book is at least 3 times as much on Amazon!

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                                                                                                                                                      rstuart RE: Breadcrumbs Jul 19, 2013 06:18 PM

                                                                                                                                                      I have heard of the book.. it would defeat my current "one in one out" vow, but it does looks good! And from google hits, it looks like a number of British bloggers have tried some recipes and liked them..

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                                                                                                                                                        roxlet RE: Breadcrumbs Jul 21, 2013 03:06 PM

                                                                                                                                                        I went ahead and ordered the Popina Book of Baking. I like that there seemed to be quite a few savory pie recipes in the book. This fall, I am teaching a pie-making course at our local adult school, and I might want to talk a bit about savory pies even though the course focused on Thanksgiving. Turkey pot pie, anyone?

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                                                                                                                                                          Breadcrumbs RE: roxlet Jul 21, 2013 04:10 PM

                                                                                                                                                          How exciting to be teaching a class roxlet...congratulations!!

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                                                                                                                                                          MelMM RE: Breadcrumbs Jul 25, 2013 06:43 AM

                                                                                                                                                          Anyone interested in trying before they buy can find a few recipes here:

                                                                                                                                                          I recall making the butternut squash and parmesan tart, and it was delicious, but I used my own crust recipe, not the one in the book, so I can't speak to the somewhat unconventional crust.

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                                                                                                                                                            Caitlin McGrath RE: MelMM Jul 25, 2013 04:44 PM

                                                                                                                                                            Thanks for the link, Mel. The recipes look great, and I've copied the ones for Ginger-Chile Caramel Cookies, Fig, Apricot, and Nut Biscotti, and Butternut Squash and Parmesan Tart to Pepperplate (I already have a favorite recipe for gingerbread cut-outs).

                                                                                                                                                        3. Ruthie789 RE: buttertart Jul 20, 2013 01:47 PM

                                                                                                                                                          After watching the show Grocery Bags, I am interested in purchasing a cookbook called A16 Food and Wine. Seems to be about rustic Italian cooking.

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                                                                                                                                                            lyagushka RE: buttertart Jul 20, 2013 03:03 PM

                                                                                                                                                            I got Andrea Nguyen's Asian Dumplings, and now I'm cogitating on a dumpling party sometime next month. Which will mean I need to practice in the next few weeks. This books is EXCELLENT. I don't buy many cookbooks, but would enthusiastically recommend it to anyone who thinks they might ever make a dumpling in their own home.

                                                                                                                                                            Checked out of the library: Vegetable Literacy by Deborah Madison, and Gordon Ramsay's Home Cooking. So far both of these are worth a skim through, but neither one seems worth sinking my own money into.

                                                                                                                                                            1. pagesinthesun RE: buttertart Jul 20, 2013 04:32 PM


                                                                                                                                                              Does anyone have this book? I heard an interview with the author, David Leite, on The Splendid Table podcast. He was discussing eggless mayo (milk is the base). It sounded interesting.

                                                                                                                                                              From his blog
                                                                                                                                                              www.leiteculinaria.com I learned more about the book. It is getting good reviews on Amazon.

                                                                                                                                                              I'm trying to turn over a new leaf, I signed up for a library card! I'm hoping this saves me some money and space from buying cookbooks, many that I read once and never cook from. I'll pick it up at the library first, but wondering if anyone here has experience with cooking from this book.

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                                                                                                                                                                qianning RE: pagesinthesun Jul 21, 2013 05:02 PM

                                                                                                                                                                no experience with it, but would love to hear your impression after you look at it.

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                                                                                                                                                                  buttertart RE: qianning Jul 21, 2013 05:13 PM

                                                                                                                                                                  Is that the one that was published a few years ago? It's very good.

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                                                                                                                                                                    pagesinthesun RE: buttertart Jul 21, 2013 07:34 PM

                                                                                                                                                                    Yes, 2010. I'll report back after I check it out this week.

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                                                                                                                                                                nyufoodguy RE: buttertart Jul 20, 2013 09:40 PM

                                                                                                                                                                My recent purchase is Edward Lee's Smoke and Pickles which I'm really enjoying.

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                                                                                                                                                                  nomadchowwoman RE: nyufoodguy Jul 21, 2013 02:21 PM

                                                                                                                                                                  Really great read, isn't it?

                                                                                                                                                                2. Breadcrumbs RE: buttertart Jul 21, 2013 12:20 PM

                                                                                                                                                                  Yard sale report! Yesterday didn't yield quantity but I'm really happy with the quality of the books I purchased...for $5 (total!!):

                                                                                                                                                                  THE ARAB TABLE by May S. Bsisu - I don't know anything about this book but when I quickly flipped through it last night it certainly looked promising.

                                                                                                                                                                  MRS WILKES' BOARDING HOUSE - I actually already have an earlier edition of this book but there's a banner on the front of this edition noting it includes 53 new recipes so I couldn't resist.

                                                                                                                                                                  GREAT FOOD AT HOME by Mark McEwan (Cdn Chef) - I wouldn't have paid full price for this book but I'm happy to add it to my collection at a bargain price.

                                                                                                                                                                  DESSERTS by Nancy Silverton - buttertart my heart skipped a beat when I saw this one. It's been on my wishlist for some time but it's not cheap on the used book market. This book looks like new!

                                                                                                                                                                  MASTER CHEFS FOR HOME CHEFS / 04 - This is an interesting little book produced as a fundraiser by the United Nations World Food Programme. A collection of recipes from 52 international top chefs.

                                                                                                                                                                  CAPRIAL'S SOUPS AND SANDWICHES by Caprial Pence - I used to love watcher Caprial's Cafe on the Food Network's early days here in Canada. This book looks great!

                                                                                                                                                                  COOKS IN MY KITCHEN TALES AND RECIPES FROM A COOKING SCHOOL - Unbeknownst to me, The Cookbook Co Cooks is an acclaimed cooking school in Calgary. This book is a collection of recipes from chefs who have taught classes there including Jeffrey Alford, Michael Allemeier, Hugh Carpenter, Chris Halpin and Judy Wood.

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                                                                                                                                                                    rmarisco RE: Breadcrumbs Jul 21, 2013 03:11 PM

                                                                                                                                                                    you let me know if you're going to change your mind on the arab table: i'll send you my address and you can ship it right out! Middle Eastern food is my new attraction...

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                                                                                                                                                                      Breadcrumbs RE: rmarisco Jul 21, 2013 04:12 PM

                                                                                                                                                                      It looks like a great book rmarisco. Not a ton of photos but lots of interesting recipes and info. I feel really fortunate to have it and especially at such a great price! I too love Middle Eastern food.

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                                                                                                                                                                      Ruthie789 RE: Breadcrumbs Jul 21, 2013 05:06 PM

                                                                                                                                                                      AGAIN!!! I have to catch up to you! Haven't been seeing so many books at yard sales more so at used book stores. We have two great ones here, one sells hard covers for $2.00, the other $3.50. I did go to a moving sale last year and the seller asked me if i was looking for anything and I asked him if he had any cookbooks for sale. He advised me he did but a crowd gathered after someone yelled out cookbooks over here. I had to stand my ground and tell her I was there first...funny in retrospect.

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                                                                                                                                                                        buttertart RE: Breadcrumbs Jul 21, 2013 05:15 PM

                                                                                                                                                                        Jiminy, BC, how do you do this??? I want that Silverton, I had the chance to buy it when it came out and didn't...the Arab Table is very informative, but I haven't cooked from it.

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                                                                                                                                                                          rstuart RE: Breadcrumbs Jul 21, 2013 06:18 PM

                                                                                                                                                                          I can't believe your luck! I know that you are in the GTA,, you must be in some part of TO with lots of failed cooks who are parting with their collection..

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                                                                                                                                                                            Breadcrumbs RE: rstuart Jul 22, 2013 04:22 PM

                                                                                                                                                                            I'm starting to think the same thing rstuart. Actually we don't have any terrific grocery stores out my way unless you count Sobey's or Loblaws ...so maybe people have given up hope! That said, we were out in the west end at my Mom's today and I did pretty good at a thrift store near her.

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                                                                                                                                                                              Ruthie789 RE: Breadcrumbs Jul 22, 2013 04:58 PM


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                                                                                                                                                                                rstuart RE: Breadcrumbs Jul 22, 2013 05:25 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                Etobicoke? Or further west?

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                                                                                                                                                                                  Breadcrumbs RE: rstuart Jul 24, 2013 02:17 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                  Mississauga rstuart. Are you in the west end?

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                                                                                                                                                                                    rstuart RE: Breadcrumbs Jul 24, 2013 04:58 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                    No, downtown...

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                                                                                                                                                                                      Breadcrumbs RE: rstuart Jul 24, 2013 05:05 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                      Oh that's right! Do you ever go to BMV on Edward? I've found some great deals there on new and used books. I take my ipad so I can chk EYB to see what I already own.

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                                                                                                                                                                                        Ruthie789 RE: Breadcrumbs Jul 25, 2013 04:17 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                        You have your inventory on your IPad Breadcrumbs?

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                                                                                                                                                                                          Breadcrumbs RE: Ruthie789 Jul 25, 2013 05:27 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                          Via EYB Ruthie. I can look titles up in EYB to see whether or not I own them already.

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                                                                                                                                                                                            Ruthie789 RE: Breadcrumbs Jul 25, 2013 12:40 PM


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                                                                                                                                                                                          rstuart RE: Breadcrumbs Jul 25, 2013 04:20 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                          Yes, that one and the one on Queen!

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                                                                                                                                                                                            Breadcrumbs RE: rstuart Jul 25, 2013 04:27 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                            Oooh...didn't know about one on Queen!!!

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                                                                                                                                                                                              rstuart RE: Breadcrumbs Jul 25, 2013 06:27 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                              It used to be there.. but I haven't checked recently. Was close to Fluevog..

                                                                                                                                                                            2. eight_inch_pestle RE: buttertart Jul 21, 2013 12:55 PM

                                                                                                                                                                              Been looking for help with creative contemporary vegetarian entrees. Thinking I'll go with Plenty to start.

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                                                                                                                                                                                roxlet RE: eight_inch_pestle Jul 21, 2013 01:09 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                It's a great cookbook, but not, strictly speaking, vegetarian...

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                                                                                                                                                                                  Caitlin McGrath RE: roxlet Jul 21, 2013 01:11 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                  Actually, Plenty is entirely vegetarian (and very creative, with wonderful and inventive dishes). Perhaps you're thinking of the Ottolenghi cookbook or Jerusalem, roxlet?

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                                                                                                                                                                                    roxlet RE: Caitlin McGrath Jul 21, 2013 03:09 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                    I think I remember Ottolenghi speaking about how Plenty isn't a vegetarian cookbook somewhere because he uses some non-vegetarian ingredients, and he upset a lot of vegetarians because of that. Since I am not a vegetarian, I wouldn't tend to notice whether a book had reference to non-vegetarian ingredients or not; I only mentioned it because of what I read...

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                                                                                                                                                                                      Caitlin McGrath RE: roxlet Jul 21, 2013 03:18 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                      I'm pretty sure that everything in Plenty is entirely vegetarian, ingredient-wise (it is based on his then-vegetarian cooking column in the Guardian), but he makes clear that he's not vegetarian and he does have suggestions in some recipe head notes for serving them alongside meat dishes, which I suppose I can see upsetting vegetarians, though it oughtn't to (because, just ignore it).

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                                                                                                                                                                                        eight_inch_pestle RE: roxlet Jul 21, 2013 03:21 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                        Thanks, you two. Yeah, flipping through I haven't seen anything non-vegetarian, but I'm not vegetarian, either---some fish sauce here or a few anchovies there is cool with me. Just looking to make some more veggie-centered dinners that don't taste like 1970s Moosewood fare.

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                                                                                                                                                                                          Caitlin McGrath RE: eight_inch_pestle Jul 21, 2013 03:27 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                          Then you've made an excellent choice!

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                                                                                                                                                                                            buttertart RE: Caitlin McGrath Jul 21, 2013 05:16 PM


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                                                                                                                                                                                          The Dairy Queen RE: roxlet Jul 28, 2013 05:20 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                          roxlet, I think you might be referring to the intro to Plenty where he says he's not a vegetarian and though Plenty is a vegetarian cookbook, he sometimes does mention meat or fish in the intros to the recipes. He also recounts that in his column, The New Vegetarian, he onces suggested a certain salad would be great served alongside some lamb chops, which upset a lot of readers. Though Plenty was culled from his New Vegetarian column, I do believe Plenty is entirely vegetarian.


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                                                                                                                                                                                            roxlet RE: The Dairy Queen Jul 28, 2013 05:44 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                            You're probably right. Thanks for the clarification, TDQ.

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                                                                                                                                                                                              Siegal RE: The Dairy Queen Jul 28, 2013 07:45 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                              That is correct Dairy Queen. Not one recipe (I'm pretty sure) calls for a non vegetarian Ingredient but he didn't write the cookbook solely for vegetarians. He wrote it about vegetables for everyone so he suggests in a few recipes that this dish would go great with lamb or whatever.

                                                                                                                                                                                    2. Njchicaa RE: buttertart Jul 21, 2013 08:04 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                      I'm considering buying the Bouchon Bakery cookbook because I am trying to improve my baking skills. It is easy to hold off, though, when it costs $35 new from Amazon and $27 used.

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                                                                                                                                                                                        roxlet RE: Njchicaa Jul 22, 2013 04:14 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                        I haven't been overly impressed by the Bouchom Bakery cookbook. Do you have The Art and Soul of Baking? I think it is one of the best baking skills book, imo. New copies are available on Amazon for $15.


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                                                                                                                                                                                          buttertart RE: roxlet Jul 22, 2013 08:16 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                          I agree with roxlet, excellent book.

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                                                                                                                                                                                            Njchicaa RE: roxlet Jul 22, 2013 12:14 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                            Thanks for the suggestion. I will add it to my list!

                                                                                                                                                                                        2. Gio RE: buttertart Jul 22, 2013 06:07 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                          "Never-ending Summer" finally arrived and I had only a few minutes to give it a cursory scan.. So far I'm not over the moon about it at first glance but of course it needs a much closer look. A couple of recipes did intrigue me though such as:

                                                                                                                                                                                          > Fresh Sausage Rolls which I thought would be a baked affair but no, it's a sandwich w/sausages; red peppers; red onions; rolls; parsley; Hellman's Dijonnaise mustard
                                                                                                                                                                                          > A breakfast sandwich of Raisin Bread with ricotta, honey and barbecued peaches.
                                                                                                                                                                                          > Vietnamese herb salad with fish and something called Summer Fish.
                                                                                                                                                                                          > Old familiars such as Muhammara, Kachumbar, Fattoush

                                                                                                                                                                                          There seems to be lots of appetizers, snacks, small plates, meat and fish on the barby, and sandwiches which, I suppose, lend themselves to Summer-time eating. The salads look like those I'd make.

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                                                                                                                                                                                            buttertart RE: Gio Jul 22, 2013 08:15 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                            That breakfast sandwich sounds good.

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                                                                                                                                                                                              Gio RE: Gio Jul 23, 2013 05:09 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                              G made the Quesadilla recipe from N-eS last night and it was fantastically delicious. Spicy sausages (chicken w/rabe), fire-roasted corn kernels, salsa, cilantro, chili, and chevre with sour cream over top. Embellishments were sliced radishes/cucumber/sweet onion. Great start.

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                                                                                                                                                                                              rasputina RE: buttertart Jul 22, 2013 11:56 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                              I bought

                                                                                                                                                                                              Jacques Pépin New Complete Techniques

                                                                                                                                                                                              The Big Book of Potluck: Good Food - and Lots of It - for Parties, Gatherings, and All Occasions by Maryana Vollstedt

                                                                                                                                                                                              Pickled by Kelly Carrolata

                                                                                                                                                                                              They just looked great, but I haven't had time to sit down with them yet.

                                                                                                                                                                                              None of them was over 5 dollars so I couldn't pass up the deal.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                DatatheAndroid RE: buttertart Jul 22, 2013 01:03 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                I bought Essential Pepin, Top Chef: The Quickfire Cookbook, and Masterchef Cookbook from Books-A-Million during a 3 for 2 sale. I also picked up Bon Appetit Y'all, The Williams Sonoma Baking Book, and Paris Boulangerie Patisserie at 2nd & Charles. I also picked these up from the free bin outside of their store; The Healthy Family Cookbook, 30 Meals in 30 Minutes, Southern Living 1989 Annual Recipes, The Southern Heritage Cakes Cookbook, Creative Wok Cooking, Cooking Light 87, and Favorite Recipes from our Best Cooks. My neighbor also gave me these since she's moving soon; Cooking Light 1993, The American Century Cookbook, and Lose Weight the Smart Low-Carb Way. It's quantity over quality, but I'll take what I can get.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  JoanN RE: DatatheAndroid Jul 22, 2013 01:36 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                  The Jean Anderson book is a GREAT find. She's one of my all-time favorite authors and she knows how to write a recipe better than just about anyone else on the planet. The only problem with the book is that it's a little old-fashioned nutritionally. But then, you have to the two dieting books to balance it it out. ;-)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    buttertart RE: JoanN Jul 22, 2013 02:29 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                    One of my top favorites too, and that book is fascinating to read, too.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      DatatheAndroid RE: JoanN Jul 22, 2013 04:15 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                      It's good to know that I found a winner. I just grabbed every single free cookbook that they had. I have not started to read it yet, but I am making a list of what recipes I want to make from my cookbooks. I'll go through it next. I don't mind that it's old-fashioned nutritionally, I have a few soul food books that I want to buy as well, and those are not light on calories. I won't cook that way for myself on a regular basis, but those dishes would be great for family events I think. :)

                                                                                                                                                                                                  2. Breadcrumbs RE: buttertart Jul 22, 2013 04:17 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                    Much to my surprise, my copy of MEDITERRANEAN HARVEST by Martha Rose Schulman arrived today...a very quick delivery for an Abe's Books order (from Better World Books). I'm excited to have it in time for the August COTM. Though I still can't believe it's almost August!!

                                                                                                                                                                                                    Today we had a pile of my Mom's stuff to drop off at a thrift shop near her home so of course I couldn't resist a quick peek at their cookbooks. All books were either $1.99 or $2.99 except for the wine book:

                                                                                                                                                                                                    THE GOOD CAKE BOOK by Diana Dalsass

                                                                                                                                                                                                    MODERN ITALIAN COOKING by Biba Cacciano (signed!)

                                                                                                                                                                                                    BETTY CROCKER GOOD AND EASY COOK BOOK - first edition

                                                                                                                                                                                                    JENNIFER PATERSON'S SEASONAL RECEIPTS

                                                                                                                                                                                                    THE CLASSIC ZUCCHINI COOKBOOK by Nancy C Ralston, M. Jordan and A. Chesman

                                                                                                                                                                                                    LEE BAILEY'S SOUTHERN FOOD & PLANTATION HOUSES

                                                                                                                                                                                                    PUT 'EM UP by Sherri Brooks Vinton

                                                                                                                                                                                                    SOTHEBY'S WINE ENCYCLOPEDIA - a bargain at $3.99

                                                                                                                                                                                                    I don't think any of these books other than the Betty Crocker have even been opened!!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      MelMM RE: Breadcrumbs Jul 25, 2013 06:48 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                      The Classic Zucchini Cookbook...now that's one I could use right now! I see A. Chesman as an author, so I'll hazard a guess that's Andrea Chesman, author of The Vegetarian Grill and other books. You've got to follow up on that one and let me know how it works out.

                                                                                                                                                                                                    2. LulusMom RE: buttertart Jul 23, 2013 05:49 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Took Lulu and my family to a used book store yesterday. Spent most of my time in the children's section but did find a little time to spend in the cookbook section. There were some temptations, but luckily I forgot to look for Burma and/or Vietnamese Home Cooking, and so I maintained my halo. But I have to tell you, Provencal Light by Martha Rose Shulman was screaming at me, and it was only Lulu pulling me away to go pet the cats that kept it out of the basket.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                        buttertart RE: LulusMom Jul 23, 2013 09:37 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                        I'm glad Lulu has her priorities straight. ;-)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                          LulusMom RE: buttertart Jul 24, 2013 05:52 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                          Lulu's books came before cats, then cats, then mom's cookbooks. So I agree - pretty good set of priorities. She's 1/3 of the way through Little House on the Prairie and loving it. Meanwhile I have this nasty, niggling thought in the back of my head about Burma and Vietnamese Home Cooking ... do I go back and see if they are there?? Naughty.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                            buttertart RE: LulusMom Jul 24, 2013 08:10 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                            I'd get Burma before the other one, but the other one is interesting too.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                              MelMM RE: buttertart Jul 25, 2013 06:50 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                              LLM, if you have an iPad, Vietnamese Home Cooking is a great one to get as an iBook, because they really took advantage of the format and embedded video and lots of features in the iBook. One of the best-executed electronic books I've come across.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                LulusMom RE: MelMM Jul 25, 2013 07:23 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                No iPad, just a kindle. But good to know about how well executed it is.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                  MelMM RE: LulusMom Jul 25, 2013 07:51 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I'd be curious to know if the kindle book has any of the same features. My kindle is an old one, so isn't capable of things like video, but I suppose the newer Kindle Fire is. I have no idea if more recent ebooks for Kindle are including features like these.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                    lilham RE: MelMM Jul 25, 2013 08:00 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I use the kindle app on my Ipad. I wonder if it supports features like video and music too

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                      LulusMom RE: MelMM Jul 25, 2013 10:24 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I went for the most bare bones kindle, since all I figured I'd be doing with it is reading. I'd be interested to know the answer to this question too.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        2. greedygirl RE: buttertart Jul 23, 2013 06:46 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                          I've been pretty restrained this year after some crazily unfettered buying last year! I did pick up a couple of things in TKMaxx the other day - Kitchen & Co which is the cookbook of a local café, and a Williams-Sonoma book called Rustic Italian.

                                                                                                                                                                                                          Currently on the lust list:
                                                                                                                                                                                                          TWO GREEDY ITALIANS
                                                                                                                                                                                                          MELT - I just got a Cuisinart Professional Ice-Cream Maker. Maybe I need a diet book to counteract this one!
                                                                                                                                                                                                          MIGHTY SPICE EXPRESS

                                                                                                                                                                                                          I also just ordered Mediterranean Harvest because I was fed up with not participating in COTM. Unfortunately I ordered it from the US by mistake so God knows when I'll get it! Ho hum.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                            LulusMom RE: greedygirl Jul 23, 2013 07:18 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                            Two Greedy Italians was one that I got as a gift. And I will definitely be buying Mighty Spice Express when it comes out here.

                                                                                                                                                                                                          2. emily RE: buttertart Jul 23, 2013 01:27 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                            1,000 Mexican Recipes
                                                                                                                                                                                                            Practically Raw: Flexible Raw Recipes Anyone Can Make

                                                                                                                                                                                                            Thinking about:
                                                                                                                                                                                                            Margaret Fulton's Baking (contains a lot of international recipes - German, Australian, etc.; author is Australian )

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                                                                                                                                                                                                              buttertart RE: emily Jul 23, 2013 05:10 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                              That Fulton sounds great.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                MelMM RE: emily Jul 25, 2013 06:53 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                1,000 Mexican Recipes is a really good book. That whole series is much better than I would ever have expected. The Italian one is by Michelle Scicolone.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                  emily RE: MelMM Jul 25, 2013 10:54 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Yeah, I was looking at the 1,000 Indian Recipes (which was gifted to me) the other day and thought "why don't I turn to this more often"?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                    MelMM RE: emily Jul 25, 2013 11:11 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I have the Indian one too! Also a really solid book.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                      herby RE: MelMM Jul 25, 2013 12:37 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Do you like it better than 660 Curries?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                        rasputina RE: herby Jul 25, 2013 12:49 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I like it a lot more than 660 Curries but I also had it first and I've cooked with it quite a bit.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                          MelMM RE: herby Jul 25, 2013 01:20 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I would say, yes.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                      rasputina RE: MelMM Jul 25, 2013 12:48 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      1000 Indian Recipes by Neelam Batra is my favorite in the series. I do have the Mexican one also and like it.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Gio RE: MelMM Jul 25, 2013 01:56 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I have the 1000 Italian Recipes book and love it. Are there any other books in that collection other than Indian, Mexican and Italian?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                          MelMM RE: Gio Jul 25, 2013 02:07 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I know of a vegan one and a gluten-free one. I think the three we've discussed are the gems of the collection.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Breadcrumbs RE: Gio Jul 25, 2013 03:26 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Others I saw at a cookbook store were: Vegetarian, Jewish, Low Fat and Diabetes

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                              BigSal RE: Gio Jul 25, 2013 07:23 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Penelope Casas is coming out with a new book in this series in November. 1,000 Spanish recipes. http://www.amazon.com/000-Spanish-Rec...

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                MelMM RE: BigSal Jul 26, 2013 03:26 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                That means I have a few months to make room on my bookshelf for it...

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Samuelinthekitchen RE: emily Jul 25, 2013 07:45 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Margaret Fulton isn't just Australian, she is an Australian icon. She is responsible for so many great things in the Australian foodscape and one of our finest living treasures.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Buy all of her books you can or alternatively just send her a cheque because she's wonderful and ought to be encouraged.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            That particular book is wonderful too.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          3. Berheenia RE: buttertart Jul 24, 2013 07:21 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Tired of our constant leftovers I just ordered CI Cooking for Two cookbooks. Buy 2013 and get 2012 free for 30 bucks including shipping.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                              herby RE: Berheenia Jul 24, 2013 09:48 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Please share your thoughts on these books! I strongly dislike leftovers and have three books on cooking for one that I like:
                                                                                                                                                                                                                              The Pleasures of Cooking for One by Judith Jones
                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Solo Suppers by Joyce Goldstein
                                                                                                                                                                                                                              The Pleasure is All Mine by Suzanne Pirret

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I also have:
                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Gourmet Cooking for One by Robert Graham Paris - an old book that I am yet to cook from
                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Serve Yourself by Joe Yonan that does not inspire me

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              If anyone cooks from these books, please share your favourites.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                JoanN RE: herby Jul 24, 2013 10:18 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                A friend of mine gave me the Judith Jones book about a year and a half ago and I've never cooked a thing from it. There are a number of things about the book that annoy me. But first, let me say that I don't mind leftovers. In fact, more often than not, I love having leftovers in the fridge or freezer and often make note in my books about just how well the leftovers hold up.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Judith's book often calls for special sized equipment such as a 4-inch square cast iron skillet or small tart pans with removable bottoms. I'm not going out and buying special equipment just in order to prepare single serving quantities. Also, it's surprising in such a book how often she calls for leftover ingredients, whether dough in your freezer, chunks of meat saved from previous meals, or leftover cooked rice. Some of the recipes are followed by a paragraph called "second round," acknowledging that you can't make the dish for just one. And many of the recipes are just so simple that it would be easy enough to take any recipe and do the math. I don't need her to tell me how to make an omelet for one, or linguine, or a single artichoke, or a single, pan-seared salmon fillet. And on and on. And I'd never even consider making tomato sauce for one. I mean, why bother?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                But that's me. You may feel differently about it. But I strongly recommend you take a look at these books before you commit to them. You may decide you could figure it all out by yourself and really don't need their help.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Berheenia RE: JoanN Jul 25, 2013 11:42 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I agree that I could probably figure out how to reduce most recipes but as a newly retired couple we are looking forward to spending more time cooking weekdays and trying recipes that are outside our box. Have always like CI recipes and hope to find some winners. If I do I may double them to freeze, as I do with the usual cast of characters, but now an easy peasy weeknight meal from the freezer is not that important.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    JoanN RE: Berheenia Jul 25, 2013 12:44 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I was referring specifically to the Judith Jones book, which I thought had an awful lot of rank beginner recipes in it. I really couldn't figure out quite who the market for that book is supposed to be, unless it's recent widowers having to cook for themselves for the first time. I haven't seen the CI books. I agree that CI recipes are usually reliable, if sometimes unnecessarily fussy. Also, cooking for two is quite a different ballgame than cooking for one. Lots more opportunity for variety there. I'll be curious to hear what you think of them once you've had a chance to spend a bit of time with them.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    And welcome to more-time-for-cooking retirement. I've been enjoying it immensely.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    herby RE: JoanN Jul 25, 2013 07:14 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Thank you for such detailed review, Joan! I do not recall actually making anything out the book but loved the "second round' ideas. I can't stomach anything more than twice and even that is a stretch unless I LOVED the dish. I would make Bolognese and you can't make one serving, right? So, one day it is tossed with pasta and the second day I may layer it with eggplant and ricotta for some take on lasagna and after that it goes in the freezer because I do not have any more ideas. If she gives me good ideas for more rounds of the dish, I am happy. Some things are easy: I make soups all the time and freeze in single serving containers and it is fine. But I do not like everything out of the freezer either...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              2. beetlebug RE: buttertart Jul 24, 2013 01:43 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I bought Smoke and Pickles and am really happy owning it. This is without making a single thing from it but this book just screamed to be owned. This is my first purchase since Burma last fall.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I picked up Vietnamese Home Cooking from the library. Although it was pretty, the recipes didn't seem to be anything that different then the COTM Vietnamese couplet we did a few years ago. I returned it after a quick glance.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Gio RE: beetlebug Jul 24, 2013 01:55 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  So happy you like the book BB... My copy hasn't arrived yet. Again it was shipped on the back of a turtle. I'm dying to get it in my hot little hands.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Breadcrumbs RE: beetlebug Jul 24, 2013 02:09 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I felt the same way about Smoke and Pickles beetlebug. It's such an interesting book with innovative recipes.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    That's helpful to hear your thoughts on VHC as well. I've had this on my Amazon wishlist waiting to read feedback from folks I trust. I really appreciate the context you've provided. I wasn't a CH member during the Vietnamese COTM but I did purchase the books knowing I could leverage those threads and add my own feedback.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      beetlebug RE: beetlebug Jul 24, 2013 02:13 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      The squid and bacon salad is just calling my name. @Gio, I ordered from ecookbooks. The shipping pattern was ridiculous. The store is less then 10 miles from my house, it shipped down to NJ, then to Western Mass and then to me.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      @Breadcrumbs. I really liked both Vietnamese books and ultimately purchased Mai Pham's book since I liked that a teensy bit more. Plus, Andrea Nguyen's book was readily available at the library and always there when I needed it.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        JoanN RE: beetlebug Jul 24, 2013 02:24 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Are you sure we're not related, bb? Undercooked the bacon, over emulsified the vinaigrette, and it was still simply outstanding. Serving for four was dinner for one (overeating, yes, but only slightly).

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          herby RE: JoanN Jul 24, 2013 03:52 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          That looks so good, Joan! Are there many pork/bacon recipes in the book that can't be substituted by smoked turkey or duck? I have in my Amazon cart but haven't pulled the trigger yet.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            JoanN RE: herby Jul 24, 2013 04:47 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            There are about a dozen recipes for ham and pork and about eight that contain bacon. I would think you could substitute a non pork product for the bacon, but it wouldn't work for the majority of the ham or pork recipes, I don't think, since most of them call for whole or half legs or shoulders.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              herby RE: JoanN Jul 24, 2013 05:50 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Many thanks Joan! I think I need to take the book out of the library for a test drive and see how it works for me.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            beetlebug RE: JoanN Jul 25, 2013 05:54 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            We might be related. My family tree was lost in WW2 so anything is possible. ;-)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            But, I do suspect that lambs bleat in fear when we see a new cookbook but cumin farmers rejoice.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            That salad looks fantastic. I may buy some arugula as a bed for it. His notes says to use never been frozen squid. I feel like all squid has been frozen at some point. I'm going to have to take a closer look at the fish monger.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              JoanN RE: beetlebug Jul 25, 2013 06:12 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              The fisherman at my local farmer's market had fresh-off-the-boat squid. I'm sure it was better than frozen would have been, but I wouldn't hesitate to make this if frozen squid is all that's available.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              And speaking of lambs: http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/907537

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          LulusMom RE: beetlebug Jul 25, 2013 02:35 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Thank you so much for your post bb. I trust you very much on these things, so I will nix the idea of letting Vietnamese Home Cooking sneak it's way into my kitchen. I have both the Vietnamese books we did as COTMs.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        3. Breadcrumbs RE: buttertart Jul 24, 2013 02:51 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Three books of UK origin arrived at my door today:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          THE ITALIAN FAMILY COOKBOOK by Tony Casillo - I found a magazine clipping of an old review of this book in another Italian cookbook I purchased at a thrift store. It was the back story of the book that caught my interest. The author's family emigrated to the US (Buffalo) from Florence Italy when he was 12 and he helped cook many of the family meals. His interest in food continued through adulthood and he became a food writer. He then moved to the UK and travelled extensively to Italy. This book is a collection of his family recipes and those from chefs he met through his travels. He put the collection together for his daughters when they were moving out so they could prepare the same meals for their families.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          POPINA BOOK OF BAKING by Isidora Popovic. I reported on this book up-thread when I first ordered it because I found it on sale here in Canada and the price was so good I thought others might be interested. Here's a link to that post:


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Now I have it in hand I'm even more excited about it. It may not be a big book (just 144 pgs) but it's mighty appealing. I went through it page by page and there's a great blend of classic recipes and innovative recipes. The savoury dishes were particularly appealing and there's also a number of amazing looking pies, tarts and muffins that make use of seasonal fruit. Oh and then there's the outrageously delicious-looking Ginger and Chili Caramel Cookies....see what I mean! This book is treat and a true bargain for $6.99

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          THE MEATBALL COOKBOOK - GREAT BALLS OF FIRE RECIPES FROM THE BOWLER MEATBALL TRUCK by Jez Felwick. The author is the chef/owner of a UK meatball food truck and this is a collection of his favourite recipes. I'm already in love with this book. I want to make every single ball, sauce, dip I saw! The Green Chile Chicken Balls with Coconut Curry Sauce look ridiculously good but there are just so many innovative meat/fish/veggie balls to choose from it will be tough to know where to start. I'm way more excited about this than I was the Meatball Shop book. FYI this is the North American edition of the book, in the UK it's called: The Bowler's Meatball Cookbook.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Ruthie789 RE: Breadcrumbs Jul 25, 2013 04:19 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            The last book is calling to me!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Breadcrumbs RE: Ruthie789 Jul 25, 2013 05:33 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              It's currently being indexed in EYB so you'll soon be able to look at the recipe list there to see if it's of interest. I'm very excited about it and it seemed to receive great reviews in the UK. When I make something from it I'll report back here.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          2. pagesinthesun RE: buttertart Jul 24, 2013 06:26 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I finally broke down and ordered Two Greedy Italians in anticipation of it being a fall COTM!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Also, EYB just July roundup. I had ordered newly released Ruby Violet's Ice Cream Dreams. I almost ordered it from the title alone! I'm in such anticipation of getting my remodeled kitchen put together and freezing the ice cream bowl in the new freezer.... It was an emotional buy, obviously, but hopefully a delicious one! It's not an Amazon prime, so I'll get back to ya in August on this one!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              meatn3 RE: pagesinthesun Jul 24, 2013 06:58 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              That sounds like a perfect gift to yourself to initiate your new kitchen! Each year I vow to make room for the ice cream maker bowl in the freezer and each year it doesn't happen...my hips are probably happy though!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              dkennedy RE: buttertart Jul 25, 2013 07:17 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              My copy of One Fish, Two Fish, Crawfish, Blue Fish just arrived. I found it for a penny on Amazon.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I have far too many cookbooks in general, and far, far too many seafood cookbooks, but I felt I needed to buy this one. I think I tend to over-induldge on books that I wish I cooked more like. So, I have more Far Eastern books and seafood books than I will use in two lifetimes, but if they motivate me to cook fish and stir fries more often, they are worth having, right? Anything to keep me motivated and in the kitchen.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              After looking through it, I think I made a good investment. It was put out by the Smithsonian some years back, and all the recipes were contributed by star chefs of the day. People like Alice Waters, Suzanne Goin, Mary Sue Miliken and on and on. It is fun to read the recipes for the who's who factor alone.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              For those of you with a passion for seafood, I think this is a good book to seek out. The reviews on Amazon are all positive, and the recipes appear to be approachable. More to follow once I cook out of it. Now I just need to find a way to squeeze it onto my shelf!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              1. alkapal RE: buttertart Jul 25, 2013 08:29 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Lee Brothers' Charleston Kitchen -- everything is so wonderful!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Food of Life (Persian recipes, and better than the newer version called "New Food of Life"). http://www.amazon.com/Food-Life-Ancie...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Enjoying Dorie Greenspan's "Around My French Table" quite a lot, too.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                these are all from the library, as my husband has finally laid down the law on my obsessive cookbook collecting. (he is right, of course, because they are everywhere. EVERYwhere! i have over a thousand, i'm sure). i will begin a cull this fall, when the weather is amenable to a big sale!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  ellabee RE: alkapal Aug 2, 2013 07:19 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Re Food of Life, alkapal: What makes you prefer it to New Food of Life? (Do you own New Food, or was it an earlier library checkout?)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I'm very interested to get some more impressions from readers & owners,since one or the other of these is at the top of my wishlist for 2013. I'm fine with buying used if there's a reason to go with the first version.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Siegal RE: ellabee Aug 3, 2013 11:32 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I have the new one - never had the old one. It has nice pictures and I made two great dishes and a few not so great dishes but I need to whip it out again as I bookmarked a bunch of things I want to make

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      ellabee RE: Siegal Aug 3, 2013 03:58 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Thanks, Siegal!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                2. Ruthie789 RE: buttertart Jul 26, 2013 07:15 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I was at Chapters tonight and sneaked a peak of 4-hour Chef by Tim Ferriss. I am interested in it and a Phaiden book by Ginette Mathiout, which is a compilation of all her cookbooks I think.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  As well took the Art of Living according toJoe Beef book out of my library.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    rstuart RE: Ruthie789 Jul 27, 2013 10:17 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    My brother got that for Christmas (Joe Beef).. I should ask him if he liked it..

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Ruthie789 RE: rstuart Jul 27, 2013 02:36 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I am enjoying it, but would probably never make most of the recipes except for the bavette as I am really not much of a meat eater. Lot's of history about Montreal and their love of food, and fine dining shines through.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  2. Allegra_K RE: buttertart Jul 27, 2013 01:37 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Today I found an estate sale in which the previous owner was an avid cookbook collector....and I do mean Avid. There were over a thousand cookbooks, plus magazines, TimeLife series, and a huge amount of bakeware. Most of the cookbooks were about baking and confectionery making, but there were so many to choose from that I really had a hard time selecting what I needed with my limited time....I had an impatient, bored, and hungry family waiting in the car for me so I had to be fast!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    For $20, I found:
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Complete book of Caribbean Cooking-Lambert Ortiz
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Turkish Cookery-Inci Kut
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Time Life Cooking of Spain & Portugal (both books)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Time Life A Quintet of Cuisines (both books)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Time Life Russian Cooking (both books)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    A Drizzle of Honey: The lives and recipes of Spain's secret Jews by David Gitlitz & Linda Kay Davidson
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Indonesian Food and Cookery-Sri Owen
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Treasures of my Caribbean Kitchen-Anne-Marie Whittaker
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Persian Cuisine-M.R. Ghanoonparvar
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    The Romanian Cookbook-Anisoara Stan
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    The Malawi Cookbook
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Mediterranean Cooking-Paula Wolfert
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Tapas and Appetizers-Jose Sarrau
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Hungarian Cookery Book-Karoly Gundel
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Indian Regional Classics-Julie Sahni
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    The Philippine Cookbook-Reynaldo Alejandro
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    La Tradicional Cocina Mexicana-Adela Fernandez
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    The Food of Portugal-Jean Anderson

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Wish I could have had the chance to thoroughly peruse the shelves, but this was pretty darned awesome, so I'm really happy with my finds!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Breadcrumbs RE: Allegra_K Jul 27, 2013 01:48 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Wow Allegra, what an amazing haul. Your post made me wish I lived nearby and could rush right over!!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      You have a lot of wonderful books on your list. For Caribbean, that Whittaker book is a real gem.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        MelMM RE: Allegra_K Jul 27, 2013 02:01 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Wow. That is some really great stuff. I bet the former owner would be glad to see you have it, and to know it had found an appreciative home.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Ruthie789 RE: MelMM Jul 27, 2013 02:34 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          A kindred spirit who likes to cook merits those books.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          nomadchowwoman RE: Allegra_K Jul 27, 2013 02:14 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          You're one efficient shopper, Allegra! And you've got some great finds there.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Ruthie789 RE: Allegra_K Jul 27, 2013 02:33 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            That is a score and wonderful to have diverse cuisine options. The yard sales here in Quebec have dried up due to the construction holiday, no one is in town.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          2. Breadcrumbs RE: buttertart Jul 27, 2013 02:27 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            We made a quick stop at a community yard sale for charity today and I picked up the first 3 books for 50¢ each. I may have to donate the Fannie Flagg book though because although it appears to be in pristine condition, unfortunately it smells like cigarettes. The final book came from HomeSense (Cdn version of HomeGoods) and it was $6.99.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            FANNIE FLAGG’S ORIGINAL WHISTLE STOP CAFÉ COOKBOOK

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            A TASTE OF GEORGIA by The Junior League

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            JASPER WHITE’S COOKING FROM NEW ENGLAND

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            AROUND THE WORLD IN 80 DISHES – recipes from various chefs including Jamie Oliver, Nigella Lawson, Rose Gray & Ruth Rogers, Gennaro Contaldo Heston Blumenthals, The Hart Brothers, Alice Waters, April Bloomfield

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Ruthie789 RE: Breadcrumbs Jul 27, 2013 02:35 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Not much you can do about the fumes, how annoying! But all I can say is AGAIN!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Breadcrumbs RE: Ruthie789 Jul 27, 2013 02:40 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I know Ruthie, it's tough to remove cigarette odours. I do have some cedar shavings leftover from my last attempt to de-stink some books. I was able to save 4 out of 8 so I might try to save this one if I think it looks worth it after I've flipped through it. At the moment it's outside on our covered porch in the hopes it will air out a bit!!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Ruthie789 RE: Breadcrumbs Jul 27, 2013 03:27 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Believe it or not the bright sunshine might redeem it, as it is a very powerful agent. You might try putting it in a plastic bag with a bowl that has a douse of essential oils in a cotton swab in it. Cigarette smoke and also mildew smells often linger in old books. I enjoy hearing about these yard sale acquisitions!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Ruthie789 RE: Ruthie789 Jul 27, 2013 03:29 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Just coincidently is there a book you are on the hunt for and have not found yet?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Breadcrumbs RE: Ruthie789 Jul 27, 2013 04:20 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I'm always on the look out for any books on my Amazon wishlist. Especially the more expensive ones. In particular:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Mastering the Art Of Chinese Cooking by Eileen Yin-Fei Lo

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Vijs At Home: Relax, Honey: The Warmth and Ease of Indian Cooking by Meeru Dhalwala

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Food Journeys of a Lifetime: 500 Extraordinary Places to Eat Around the Globe by National Geographic

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Madhur Jaffrey Indian Cooking

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      The Flavor Bible: The Essential Guide to Culinary Creativity, Based on the Wisdom of America's Most Imaginative Chefs
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      by Karen Page

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Junior League cookbooks - I love these!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I also collect old cookbooks (unfortunately, too old for EYB's database) and recipe booklets so I'm always on the lookout for these. I love reading through these old gems, especially if the recipes are accompanied by handwritten notes.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      btw, do you collect vintage kitchenware? I love the pyrex pieces in your avatar! I collect antique and vintage kitchenware so I'm always on the lookout for new pieces as well as cookbooks! It never ends!!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        buttertart RE: Breadcrumbs Jul 27, 2013 05:32 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Don't bother with the Eileen Yin-Fei Lo, my least favourite Chinese cookbook in ages...I gave mine away when we moved in 2010. The Key to Chinese Cooking by Irene Kuo and the Fuchsia Dunlop's are the real deal.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          dkennedy RE: Breadcrumbs Jul 27, 2013 07:13 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          BC, just so you know, there are copies of Food Journeys available on amazon for 3.97 plus shipping. I just bought one so thank you for bringing it to my attention.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I rarely find books I knew I wanted at yard sales but I often discover books I never heard this way. Once in a great while I find a treasure. Twist of the Wrist by Nancy Silverton was one I snagged for $2.00 at the library book store. I wouldn't have bought it retail, but now that I have it, I really love it.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I also love Junior League cookbooks which unfortunately are never indexed on EYB.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          ETA: I kind of look upon these Chowhound threads as yard sales. I am constantly stumbling upon books I never knew I wanted!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            herby RE: dkennedy Jul 28, 2013 02:43 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Thank you both, BC and DK! the Food Journeys is now in my basket at Amazon....

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Breadcrumbs RE: dkennedy Jul 28, 2013 03:30 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              That's great to know dk!! I don't know why I didn't think of checking Abes for this (shipping is cheaper for us in Cda via Abes). Very exciting...this one's been on my list for a long time!!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                ellabee RE: dkennedy Aug 2, 2013 07:26 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Charleston Receipts is a great Junior League cookbook that's indexed on Eat Your Books, so there's hope for the future.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                rstuart RE: Breadcrumbs Jul 27, 2013 07:54 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I also wondered about your avatar photo Ruthie.. love the pyrex! I think that my mother got rid of all of the ones that we had when I was a child, which is too bad...

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Ruthie789 RE: rstuart Jul 28, 2013 12:43 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I had started collecting Pyrex about ten years ago. I have picked up many bowl sets at yard sales and flee markets for a nominal fee. I have kept some but have given sets to various family members. Anything vintage in the kitchen can be purchased by me, I am very dangerous to unleash at yard sales. Most items are much better quality than kitchen goods that we are seeing new today.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  This might make a good thread.....

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Stardustgirl RE: Ruthie789 Jul 28, 2013 03:16 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    It would make a great thread! I've often wondered about a vintage muffin tin I have that was my grandmother's. It's aluminum but so heavy that I could knock someone out with it. I've never seen other pieces or another like it - but I'd sure love to know if anyone else has it.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Ruthie789 RE: Stardustgirl Jul 28, 2013 04:48 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I am sure that there are many of us wondering if others know about our vintage. Why don't you start the thread and I know I will join in!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Ruthie789 RE: Breadcrumbs Jul 28, 2013 12:37 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  OMG, I was going to ask you the same question about vintage kitchenware. I just got back from a second hand store and bought a cake pan and a Sheffield cake knife for under $5.00 total. I was collecting vintage Pyrex for quite some time, but have now stopped. I also love jadite and milk glass. If you like tea, purchase the 6 cup Pyrex teapot, it makes THE best tea and keeps it really hot. Somehow I knew a vintage cookbook collector would collect vintage kitchen goods. I almost purchased two Skyline cake pans from England today but they were really banged up. Junior League cookbooks are the best, I love them.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Breadcrumbs RE: Ruthie789 Jul 28, 2013 03:03 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I have to confess that I collected so much kitchenware (ooh, and antique and vintage table linens!) that I actually started a business to re-sell some of my collection! Once I'd culled as much as I was wiling to part with I closed up the business though I still have a couple of interior designers that check in with me time to time if they are sourcing a piece. Like you, I love jadite and delphite. I also have a thing for mixing bowls. I love yellow ware bowls and actually just used two of mine to mix up a cake. Pressed and depression glass pitchers are also a weakness of mine! Oh, and I too love tea in my clear glass Pyrex teapot.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    There a lot of great deals to be had if you know what you are looking for. Sounds like you found some great treasures today Ruthie!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Ruthie789 RE: Breadcrumbs Jul 28, 2013 04:46 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      My obsession started with a quest to find an arborite table in good condition, still looking to date have not found.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        rstuart RE: Ruthie789 Jul 28, 2013 06:30 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        You two both have good yardsale luck! I love the pyrex.. I live in a small, overstuffed condo, so can't acquire any more "stuff"..

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      buttertart RE: Ruthie789 Jul 28, 2013 09:17 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      That Pyrex teapot was the one we used at the cottage in Port Franks, ON for years...nice memories of drinking tea with my mom...I have one still.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Breadcrumbs RE: Ruthie789 Jul 27, 2013 04:05 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I love reading about them as well Ruthie. Thanks for the tip about essential oils. Is there one in particular you'd recommend?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Ruthie789 RE: Breadcrumbs Jul 27, 2013 06:04 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Bitter orange, or eucalyptus(sometimes you can get leaves which have a strong sent) are my two favorite essential oils, lavender is also quite nice.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Stardustgirl RE: buttertart Jul 28, 2013 03:19 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Laduree: The Sweet Recipes just moved from the lust list to being on its way to me:


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I cannot count how many Pintrest and Tumblr hours I've spent staring at macarons. I need to see them up close and personal in my kitchen. :-)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              buttertart RE: Stardustgirl Jul 28, 2013 09:19 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              That's like a cookbook for Marie Antoinette, in a satin-lined box and with a velvety cover...enjoy it :)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              asubound RE: buttertart Jul 28, 2013 05:55 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Smitten Kitchen - great recipes and humorous captions.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                lilham RE: asubound Jul 29, 2013 01:06 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I've got it a while back, but haven't been inspired to cook anything from it. I think there is a cook along thread around for the Smitten Kitchen book/blog.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                debbypo RE: buttertart Jul 28, 2013 10:12 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                These two fell into my suitcase while my defenses were down on a California vacation... must have been forced on me in San Luis Obispo at a used bookstore where I was browsing.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                The Cooking of the Eastern Mediterranean by Paula Wolfert
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                and Seductions of Rice by Alford and Duguid.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Any thoughts?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Caitlin McGrath RE: debbypo Jul 29, 2013 01:01 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Seductions of Rice was a COTM a couple of years ago. Here's the main thread, with links to the threads with reports on recipes people made, if you want to take a look-see: http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/787689

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                2. greedygirl RE: buttertart Jul 29, 2013 12:42 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I went to an actual bookshop yesterday (they're surprisingly hard to find these days in central London).

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I went to see if they had MIGHTY SPICE EXPRESS which is being released in a couple of days time (they didn't), but when I was there spied a book I now really want called POLPO. It's from a London restaurant of the same name, which I haven't visited, which specialises in Venetian small plates. The recipes look great, and very suitable for the home cook. So many things I wanted to make immediately.


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Polpo has actually developed into a mini-chain. The young chef at Polpetto, Florence Knight, also has an interesting-looking book out.


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I was also struck by a book of Persian recipes called Pomegranates and Roses. Has anyone come across this one?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    lilham RE: greedygirl Jul 29, 2013 01:10 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Is Poplpetto and Florence Knight actually any good? When I read an interview with Florence Knight on the Guardian a few months back. My impression of her is that she's a chef of a mini restaurant that hasn't traded for very long, and that it's been closed for renovations for more than a year. It didn't help that she is easy on the eyes and the boss's girlfriend. Maybe I'm a bit harsh, but it doesn't inspire confidence when someone claimed to be a headchef of a place that's not been trading for a while. The media seems to be good at finding pretty faces to sell books and TV shows. (I'm thinking the likes of Sophie Dahl and Pippa Middleton).

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Here's the article

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      greedygirl RE: lilham Jul 29, 2013 01:55 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I liked the look of her book on first flick-through, and when I was there someone bought the only remaining copy so I couldn't take a closer look!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Breadcrumbs RE: greedygirl Jul 29, 2013 03:15 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      gg thanks for the reminder about Polpo. I still haven't cooked from it but will now rectify that. I know it captivated mr bc and I when it arrived. In case you missed it, here's a link to a Guardian article w some recipes from the book:


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Also, the book is indexed in EYB if you want to take a look at the recipes. I'm sure you'll love the book though!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        greedygirl RE: Breadcrumbs Jul 29, 2013 03:44 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I saw those recipes thanks Breadcrumbs. I might check out the restaurant this week!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          LulusMom RE: greedygirl Jul 29, 2013 05:15 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Those recipes look very tasty BC, thanks for posting. And I would love to hear about the restaurant if you go, gg.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            greedygirl RE: LulusMom Jul 29, 2013 06:52 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I've just booked for lunch on Friday!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              LulusMom RE: greedygirl Jul 29, 2013 07:01 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              It really looks fantastic. I just checked out the menu and want to try it myself. For those of you who want to live vicariously here is the restaurant's website: http://www.polpo.co.uk/

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                nomadchowwoman RE: greedygirl Jul 29, 2013 07:04 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                After reading the menu LulusMom linked, I am officially green with envy!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          nomadchowwoman RE: greedygirl Jul 29, 2013 07:02 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Uh oh, "Polpo"--sounds right up my alley. More than the "big plates" or multi-course meals in Venice, I loved the cicchetti--and the tramezzini. I'll have to look up this book's availability here.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            dkennedy RE: greedygirl Jul 29, 2013 07:41 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Now I have Polpo and One on my wish list. It looks like Polpo is indexed on EYB with 109 of us having it listed on our shelves. BC, I see you own it. Can you let us know if you have cooked out of Polpo yet and what you think of it.....my trigger finger really needs to know!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Breadcrumbs RE: greedygirl Aug 1, 2013 06:42 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I thought I'd report back here that I made my first dish from Polpo on Tuesday. The Burrata with Lentils & Basil Oil - p. 218. Unfortunately I couldn't get Burrata so I went with Bufala mozzarella and the dish was absolutely delicious. Sauteed carrots, celery, onion and garlic are stirred into the cooked lentils and this mixture is then dressed with a Dijon vinaigrette from another recipe in the book (a Pear, Gorgonzola & Chicory Salad). The hot, dressed lentils are then topped with the cheese and drizzled with basil oil that you make in the food processor by combining fresh basil w EVOO, S&P. The combination of ingredients and flavours was sensational. The nice thing about this dish is that it's also terrific at room temp or cold...we've had leftovers for lunch since. A terrific first experience cooking from the book.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                greedygirl RE: Breadcrumbs Aug 1, 2013 06:44 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Glad to hear this as I caved in today and ordered in from Amazon! I am going to one of the restaurants tomorrow - will let you know how it is.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  LulusMom RE: Breadcrumbs Aug 1, 2013 07:45 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  You are a very very bad influence.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Breadcrumbs RE: LulusMom Aug 1, 2013 08:02 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I suspected someone might say that!! ; )

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              2. The Dairy Queen RE: buttertart Jul 29, 2013 07:33 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                OK, lovers of Smoke & Pickles, is this book accessible for a busy mom type? That is, are there enough recipes that are pretty simple in terms of preparation or are most of the recipes long and involved?


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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  JoanN RE: The Dairy Queen Jul 29, 2013 07:42 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  If you consider that there are a number of things that require overnight marinating or three day curing (lots of pickled things in the book), the recipes are fairly simple. The ingredients lists are a little long, but it's a teaspoon of this and half a teaspoon of that, most of which those of us who do any Asian cooking have on hand such as sesame oil, soy sauce, and fish sauce. Many of the recipes have accompanying sauces, glazes, or garnishes, but for the most part they're easy enough to prepare or can be ignored entirely.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Not sure, though, that there would be a whole lot in the book for your little one. I would recommend, as I have before, that you take a look at it if at all possible before committing to it.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    The Dairy Queen RE: JoanN Jul 29, 2013 07:47 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Hmmmm...Ok, maybe I'll see if I can't have a look at the bookstore or something. I was in the cookbook section a couple of weeks ago. I really can't remember why I didn't make a point of looking at this book then.


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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Westminstress RE: The Dairy Queen Jul 29, 2013 11:19 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    FWIW I have looked at this book a number of times in the bookstore. I agree that it seems a compelling book. But I wasn't so sure that I would get much use out of it, since many dishes seemed just a bit more complicated than what is truly doable for me. Also, I tend to like books featuring lots of vegetables and this book is pretty meat-heavy. That said, I put the book on hold at the library. If it is a truly extraordinary book -- like Jerusalem, for example -- I can deal with a little extra fiddliness now and then. And I won't know until I try.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Caitlin McGrath RE: Westminstress Jul 31, 2013 04:22 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      After perusing the recipe listing on EYB, I requested Smoke and Pickles from the library, and picked it up yesterday. Having made that perusal, I knew that it really is quite red meat-centric, in that there are lamb, beef, and pork chapters, and ham and bacon also show up in a fair number of the poultry, seafood, vegetable, and condiment recipes. Not something that leaps out as a must-own to a non-red meat-eater, but that said, there are some exceedingly appealing recipes that I want to make. I don't have the book in front of me, but off the top of my head, stuff like:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Miso-Smothered Chicken (I had previously saved that one from this link: http://www.concordmonitor.com/home/57...
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      )Strawberry Ketchup
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Rosemary Pickled Cherries
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Fried Green Tomato-Cilantro Relish
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Collards and Kimchi (I believe JoanN raved about that one)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Parsnip and Black Pepper Biscuits

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Like I said, that's what I can think of at the moment. And while I haven't had time to really sit with it yet, I can see what everyone means about what a delight Ed Lee's writing is.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        LulusMom RE: Caitlin McGrath Jul 31, 2013 04:44 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Thanks for this appraisal Caitlin. I have a feeling this is the sort of book I should look for at the library, totally enjoy as a read, and probably won't find all that useful as a cookbook (given that I'm not a big red meat eater). I had a feeling from previous reports that it was charming but maybe not something that would work for me in the kitchen, and you have pretty much confirmed that.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          The Dairy Queen RE: Caitlin McGrath Jul 31, 2013 05:41 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Yes, doesn't that miso chicken sound fab? Also, the potato stuffed chicken. I think I wanted to make every recipe in the poultry chapter, though I might adapt recipes that call for quail...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Anyway, I just came back in to this thread to say my book arrived today. (Didn't I just order it yesterday??? That was awfully fast. Or did I actually order it on Monday. Fast either way you look at it.)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I am very charmed by the writing. And on the topic of it being meat-centric, it really really is. I was laughing at the WTF Potato Salad. In the headnotes he says it's a dish he eats when he wants to eat only vegetables...and then the ingredients listing includes HAM!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Oh my. I wonder how many substitutions are possible? Turkey bacon for the pork and lamb bacon? I'm not sure what you could substitute for ham. We do eat it a couple times a year, so I don't think it's so bad to have one or two ham recipes, but I mean what can you substitute for ham when it's just a small component of a dish, as in the WTF Potato Salad.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Still, I have a number of recipes marked.


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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            herby RE: The Dairy Queen Jul 31, 2013 06:56 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I successfully substituted turkey for ham - either smoked (i.e. pea soup) or deli style (i.e. pasta roses). Since I do not eat pork I always look for substitutes. I have not tried but heard that duck bacon is amazing and does not have half the preservatives that chicken bacon does. Andrea Nguyen said that chicken thighs are great substitute for ground pork; I tried in several recipes and it works like a charm.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              greedygirl RE: The Dairy Queen Aug 1, 2013 12:21 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Lamb bacon? I have never even heard of such a thing.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                JoanN RE: greedygirl Aug 1, 2013 04:33 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                He has a recipe for lamb bacon in the book and says it's a great beginner's curing recipe. I adore lamb and would love to try it, but this is yet another instance where a stove-top grill pan will not stand in as a substitute for an outdoor grill. In fact, I'm not even sure if it can be done on a gas grill since the recipe calls specifically for a charcoal grill and for putting soaked hickory wood chips on top of hot coals.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  buttertart RE: JoanN Aug 1, 2013 06:44 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Make it and take it to someone with a smoker at some point...

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    JoanN RE: buttertart Aug 1, 2013 07:12 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Or perhaps I could convince someone who has a smoker to make it and invite me over. ;-)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      buttertart RE: JoanN Aug 1, 2013 02:01 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I like the way you think.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Breadcrumbs RE: The Dairy Queen Aug 1, 2013 05:45 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                In instances where bacon is added to a dish for its smoky flavour you could simply leave it out and use smoked paprika.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Depending on the recipe, I've also used a smoked cheese instead of bacon. This works especially well in salads. Even my bacon-loving mr bc doesn't miss the bacon when I do this.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  herby RE: Breadcrumbs Aug 1, 2013 02:31 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Don't you find that paprika has its own unique flavour in addition to smokiness and that it might interfere with the taste? I do not think I would enjoy smoked paprika in pea soup... Smoked cheese is brilliant! Why have I never thought of it ?? :)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Westminstress RE: herby Aug 2, 2013 07:09 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    There is also smoked salt, which might be worth a try.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    LulusMom RE: Breadcrumbs Aug 1, 2013 03:56 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    The weird thing is that smokiness is something I normally don't much care for as a flavor. Even Guinness beer sometimes rubs me the wrong way because of that smoky flavor, and I don't care for smoked cheeses. Not much of a surprise that I don't like bacon, I guess. I do like smoked paprika though. Going to have to think this through and figure out why.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      buttertart RE: LulusMom Aug 2, 2013 04:05 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I'm also not that fond of smoked tastes, but I love a good Kasseler Rippchen. Go figure. Smoked cheese, NO.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              nomadchowwoman RE: The Dairy Queen Jul 29, 2013 02:34 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Yes, I agree with Joan--this is not a book for everyone; probably not a lot of kid-friendly recipes, and based on what I've deduced from your posts, you might find it too fussy for your schedule these days.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Having said that, the one recipe I've tried--Vietnamese Lamb Chops--was very easy.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              But I've enjoyed reading Lee's narrative and intros about as much as any I can think of.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                The Dairy Queen RE: nomadchowwoman Jul 29, 2013 06:09 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Whoops! I just bought it. And I really mean "whoops." It was in my Amazon cart from this morning and I just bought something else and literally forgot it was in there. I was going to cancel the order but decided against it. But, here's the thing, I am going to have a look at it. If I don't like it, I do have 30 days to send it back for a full refund...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                If any of you folks have any other recommendations for "easy" dishes from this book, please let me know and I'll have a look at them. This sounds like a unique book. My kid won't be a toddler forever right?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                On the other end of the spectrum, I also just purchased Mighty Spice Express.


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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  dkennedy RE: The Dairy Queen Jul 29, 2013 07:33 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  TDQ, I think you were the one looking for good weeknight cookbooks, weren't you? Well, I stumbled upon this and it made me think of you:


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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    The Dairy Queen RE: dkennedy Jul 29, 2013 07:46 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Looks intriguing, thank you. I preordered it. We'll see!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    In the meantime, I went to EYB and scanned through all of the recipes and notes for Smoke & Pickles. (I sometimes forget you can peruse the recipes and ingredients on EYB!) I ended up with about a dozen marked "want to try" based on scanning, most of them being braises that seem like they might be a good weekend meals for cooler weather. I did notice a lot of lamb and cocktail recipes, which are completely useless to me. Also, I'm not sure I'm ever going to go to the effort to put together rice bowls, though I'll bet they are wonderful.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    We'll see what I think once the book arrives. Yes, it does seem pretty meat heavy, btw.


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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      The Dairy Queen RE: The Dairy Queen Jul 29, 2013 07:50 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      P.S. A part of me thinks I have no business owning Smoke & Pickles at this moment in my life...


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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    greedygirl RE: The Dairy Queen Jul 29, 2013 11:04 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Did you get it from the UK? I thought it wasn't out in the US yet?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      lilham RE: greedygirl Jul 30, 2013 01:03 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I can't believe I'm reading this thread. I forgot that Mighty Spice express is out on 1 Aug. Amazon has the kindle edition, and I will have a very hard to resisting this. (It didn't have the kindle edition last I look and I have no space to put another cookbook right now).

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      This thread is evil, I say.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        LulusMom RE: lilham Jul 30, 2013 02:25 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Laughing and nodding in agreement.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        The Dairy Queen RE: greedygirl Jul 30, 2013 02:56 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Yeah, I ordered it from Amazon UK. (Only 1 more left in stock...it seemed a little scarce, which is why I decided not to wait around.)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        It's out in the US Oct 1, I think. ETA, I believe in the US, the Kindle version comes out Aug 1! That's according to Amazon.Talking to YOU LLM...


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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          LulusMom RE: The Dairy Queen Jul 30, 2013 05:47 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Ohhhh boy. Message received, loud and clear.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        MelMM RE: The Dairy Queen Jul 31, 2013 06:41 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        TDQ, while this certainly isn't a "quick and easy" book, it is more home-cook-friendly than you might imagine. Nothing that I've made from it was particularly hard. Even though many are commenting that the book is meat-centric (and it does have a lot of meat, especially lamb, in it), everything I've made has been vegetable-based, if not outright vegetarian.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Part of the reason the book is really working for me is that I live in the South, and the seasonality of the recipes matches the produce I get locally. I find in books written by people from other parts of the country, the recipes might call for things I don't get at the same time, like leafy greens (winter for me) and tomatoes (summer). None of that here. I'm finding recipes that match up perfectly with my CSA box. All the ingredients are things that are easy for me to get where I live (but that might not be the case for you).

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        So far, I've made the corn pancakes (stunning, and not hard at all), the Southern fried rice (good, fun, weeknight friendly, needed spicing up a bit for my taste, but used a ton of CSA produce), the okra tempura with remoulade (fantastic, but you do need really good quality, small okra pods), and the caraway pickles (super easy, quick to make, and fantastic).

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          The Dairy Queen RE: MelMM Jul 31, 2013 06:55 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          This is terrific feedback, Mel, thank you. I was looking at a few recipes, and noticed (since I don't live in the south) that there are a few things that aren't in season for us at the same time. My impression from reading reports on this book is that his recipes seem to be so precise in their perfect timing and their mysterious synergy. I hate to mess with that kind of perfection by leaving ingredients out or making substitutions. I can't think of any specific examples right now, but I remember one super vegetable-heavy dish that had one vegetable that's not readily available locally.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Have you had any experience with making substitutions with this book?


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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            MelMM RE: The Dairy Queen Jul 31, 2013 07:36 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I've made a few substitutions. For example, in the remoulade, I substituted the author's own caraway pickles, finely chopped, for the pickled okra, and I omitted the boiled egg. The first time I made the Southern fried rice, I made it mostly as written, but used fresh crowder peas instead of dried black-eyed peas. The second time I made it, I used red bell pepper instead of green, and omitted both the corn and the tomato, and the ham broth, and added a good deal of dried chiles.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            The recipes are well-written, so you'll have good results if you make them exactly, but this is playful food, based on adaptation to local ingredients, so I have no problem messing with the recipes a bit. I would feel free to omit an ingredient or substitute with what you have available.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              The Dairy Queen RE: MelMM Jul 31, 2013 08:15 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I'm feeling very encouraged! Thank you. I feel a bit guilty adding to my cookbook collection when I just worked so hard to really pare it down, but I really liked Ed Lee when he was on Top Chef and everything I've read about this book sounds so appealing. Hopefully I'll have time to cook from it.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I also finally took the plunge and bought JERUSALEM. I just figure there are a few special cookbooks that come along now and then and I think I'll regret not having this one, even if I'm not having time to cook from it right now.


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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                herby RE: The Dairy Queen Jul 31, 2013 08:28 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                TDQ, you will love Jerusalem - there are so many great tasting recipes. Not all are easy/quick and a many are. I do not think that I cooked out of any book as much in a short time as I did from Jerusalem.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  The Dairy Queen RE: herby Jul 31, 2013 08:34 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I don't doubt it, herby. I really loved everything I've cooked from Ottolenghi.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  My real issue with Jerusalem when it was COTM, aside from my general flakiness as of late, is that it was the dead of winter here at that time and lots of the great produce was not available. And, then, on top of that, I wasn't really up to the great ingredient hunt. But, we're well into our glorious produce season now, so maybe I'll be able to find some that jump right out at me.


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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    MelMM RE: The Dairy Queen Jul 31, 2013 08:47 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I think I like Jerusalem best of all the Ottolenghi books, and I'm sure you will love it. I agree that it was not the best timing for the book to be COTM. I was looking through it the other day and noticing how many great summer recipes are in there. Meanwhile, the July COTM is one where the recipes just don't match the season, for me. The tomato and leafy green problem, for example, which apparently is not a problem in California, but it is here. Too bad we couldn't have had Jerusalem in July! I do think it is one of those cookbooks that kind of become a benchmark, and is really worth having.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Westminstress RE: MelMM Jul 31, 2013 10:38 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I was actually considering proposing a Jerusalem revisit for August or September, considering that there are so many tempting tomato, pepper and eggplant recipes that I wasn't able to make in January! I figured people wouldn't want to do the same book again so soon though (but I would!)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        herby RE: Westminstress Jul 31, 2013 10:56 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Great idea! Lets keep it in mind for the next summer. By then the original book will be published in US and we could combine both or even all three for a re-visit. Personally, I would love it :)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          MelMM RE: Westminstress Jul 31, 2013 12:24 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Well, we can always post to the original thread.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      stockholm28 RE: buttertart Jul 30, 2013 04:41 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      "Aquavit" by Marcus Samuelsson and "Swedish Cakes and Cookies" - no author, it is a classic cookbook that they sell in one of the big grocery chains (ICA) in Sweden that was just translated into English a few years ago.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I'm not Swedish, but I lived in Stockholm for a couple of years and every once in a while I feel a little "homesick" for a country that I ended up really loving. Last month, David Lebovitz posted a number of blog entries detailing his visit to Sweden which made me want Swedish food . He went to some of my favorite places in Stockholm ... Östermalm's Saluhallen, Hötorgshallen, and Rosendals Trädgård. The first two are indoor food markets. Rosendals Trädgård. is an apple orchard and garden where they have a wonderful bakery and a café where they make the most beautiful salads and desserts.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      His posts made me want to buy a couple of Swedish cookbooks. Up until this point, I've only had one ... a Swedish cookbook called "Rosendals Trädgårdscafe (from the previously mentioned café). After reading his post, I broke down and bought the "Swedish Cakes and Cookies" book which is a very classic Swedish baking book. I didn't realize they had translated it into English. I also bought "Aquavit". I've checked this book out of the library many times and made a number of the recipes in this book over the years (the Swedish meatballs, the pea soup, his Grandmother's roast chicken which is a delicious fall/winter dish), I saw it used for $12 and decided to just go ahead and buy.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Haven't made anything yet (I really associate most Swedish food with cold weather), but when it gets colder, I'll definitely be making something (and drinking a little glögg too)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        qianning RE: stockholm28 Jul 31, 2013 03:45 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        If you find any "keepers" from the Swedish Cakes and Cookies book, please share. I have the book, but never use it, not sure why not.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          buttertart RE: qianning Jul 31, 2013 11:04 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Same here...

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        JanMc RE: buttertart Jul 30, 2013 08:10 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        It's summer.... "Frozen Desserts" (Francisco Migoya, CIA book)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I suspect I will be quite popular as I do some 'practice' runs..

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        1. herby RE: buttertart Jul 31, 2013 06:59 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          After reading so many glowing reviews of Smoke and Pickle, I caved and ordered it along with Food Journeys of a Lifetime that Breadcrumbs so generously brought to my eager attention. Also bought a couple of quilting books after going through a bag-full from the library. Oh, temptations that surround us! :)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          1. buttertart RE: buttertart Aug 1, 2013 06:49 AM


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            New thread for that most exciting of all months, August...c'mon over!

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