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Can anyone tell me where City Cafe was located on Melrose before it moved to La Brea?

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  1. North side of Melrose, east of La Brea a few blocks, right next to LA Eyeworks.

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    1. re: Burger Boy

      You've got it too far east. It was east of Fairfax but west of La Brea (between N Vista and N Martel). I ate at at the original Border Grill right after it opened (replacing the original City Cafe after it moved to La Brea and was renamed the CITY Restaurant).

      1. re: Servorg

        I think he's got it. I recall wine margaritas at that Border Grill.

        1. re: Burger Boy

          It was next to LA Eyeworks because that was the partners' first enterprise, as I remember it. The photographer who shot all the Eyeworks ads, Greg Gorman, had a freebie deal going with City Cafe and then CITY. We'd met him in Nashville and taken him to the Loveless, so when we were next in LA he took us to CITY. That was the first time we'd ever made a meal of appetizers, and it was brilliant. I remember especially the skinned red peppers stuffed with goat cheese - Mrs. O hates sweet peppers, so I got all of them. Yum!

          1. re: Burger Boy

            The replies to this thread have been wonderful. I have a question: what was it about the 80s restaurants that made them so memorable — not that today's aren't, but what made the 80s places amazing?

            1. re: dtm323

              Los Angeles in the 80s was a very cool time. The Olympics were coming and there was a general sense of "New Wave" optimism, forward thinking and a willingness to experiment.

              1. re: dtm323

                It was totally rad :)

                Actually it was the time when many ethnic cuisines were emerging, thanks to large waves of immigration from Asia, Latin America and the Middle East between the late 1960s and mid-1970s. In the '80s, sushi hit the mainstream, Thai food was well-known locally, Korean BBQ was emerging, and the Mexican food menu became more than just tacos and burritos. In the '80s, the Iskenderian family first brought their Zankou Chicken restaurant to the US at Sunset & Normandie, and the El Pollo Loco restaurant chain in Mexico also opened up its first US location on Alvarado. In the '80s, L.A. was no longer just a place famous for chili burgers, cobb salad and french dip sandwiches, but a hotbed of diverse international cuisines.

            2. Title is misleading. I was all excited to discuss Muse, Tommy Tangs, Bistango, and more

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              1. re: yogachik

                Sorry, you're absolutely right! Let's discuss! I loved Tommy Tangs. I didn't move here until 87 though, so I missed out on a lot of great eating. Tell me about everything I missed!

                1. re: dtm323

                  City, Rex, Ma Maison, St. Estephe., 385 North, Chianti/Cucina, L'Orangerie at its peak, L'ermitage, Trumps, west Beach, upstairs at Sushi on Sunset, original Michael's, Citrus.

                  I remember Muse fondly. It was quite a cool scene. We'd live it up as kids drinking $10-12 bottles of Piper Sonoma off of their list.

                  1. re: john gonzales

                    Ah the memories!

                    A couple to add - 72 Market St., 7th St. Bistro, Rockenwagner, Rebecca's.

                    1. re: foodiemahoodie

                      Yes, a few more favorites from the era.
                      Rockenwagner became my go to hig-end spot in the later 80s when it was in the Edgemar/Gehry buliding. I just remenisced as I drove by it yesterday. The crab souffle, potato chip napoleon with salmon and caviar, anything with white saparagus, and his bread were all stars.

                      I still make the meatloaf recipe from 72 Market St. which is in the first Silver Palate cookbook.

                      Ahhh, the duckmeat chile relleno at Rebecca's with some damned good (and potent) margs.

                      1. re: john gonzales

                        One really important "new comer" to the LA restaurant scene opened its doors in 1982. Spago at 8795 W. Sunset Blvd. came into existence and became a celebrity/star/mover & shaker magnet for the LA "power" dining scene.

                        1. re: Servorg

                          Yep, I didn't include it because Wolf was at Ma Maison and I didn't want to double-dip. I didn't realize that the original Spago opened so early, and would have guessed 85. Remember those crappy plastic chairs they had in their frist few years?
                          I think many people also forget how classic and advanced Michael's was when it first opened. They were doing seasonal, farm-to-table stuff 30+ years ago. Chez Panisse (which just re-opened) blazed the trail but Michael's carved a niche in being a bit more sophisticated.

                          1. re: Servorg

                            The original Spago was one of a kind. Bernard was one of a kind too and pocketed a fortune from patrons vying for the best table. He then opened an ill fated restaurant of his own - the name escapes me. In any event, the original Spago was a unique place and far more hip and fun than the current incarnation.

                            1. re: Thor123

                              I agree. Had more fun at the old (very noisy) place on Sunset. Loved the spot, the size, everything. I even ended up dating the lovely hostess. Almost committed a felony in the main room. And once got mobbed by paparazzi in the parking lot (which was great, because I was there with someone who was impressed by such things - and in the middle of negotiation.) Turns out they thought I was a member of The Eagles.

                              Except I never really got the food, never understood was so great about it. Much prefer the food at the newer Spago's. (Sorry, haven't been there since remodel and the new menu. BEFORE that.)

                              But yes, the BH location has a middle aged lunch lady feel to the location. Didn't have the hip glamour of the Sunset location - which for some reason has been dormant all these years. What a great location for a restaurant. But why so dead?

                              1. re: foodiemahoodie

                                I think the issue is parking. Parking was always bad there.

                                1. re: foodiemahoodie

                                  I'm not sure the style of the original Spago would have lasted. It was cool, but it was not real comfortable. Maybe it needed to be more upper-crust and formal?
                                  The BH Spago has been remodeled, with a more modern/chic look. Personally I don't like it a lot. I kind of liked the older school less open style though it did need SOME updating. I also can't stand to think of Waldo the designer as he and I had some real unpleasantries on a home project we both worked on.

                                  1. re: john gonzales

                                    John, As for Ma Maison, do you recall the waiter's races from those days? Ma Maison hosted it. I was really quite full of myself that I was about 19 yrs old but I had that unlisted phone number & could get a table, but then I was treated beautifully by Hernando Courtright at the Beverly Wilshire when I needed suites for guests or clients on short notice. L.A. was a small town.
                                    We could talk about Waldo. Again, I feel I must know you.

                                2. re: Thor123

                                  I think Bernard is a GM at Aureole in Vegas.

                                  1. re: Thor123

                                    I just remembered Bernard's place. It was Eclipse.

                                3. re: john gonzales

                                  There was also Splichal's Beverly Hills restaurant, Max au Triangle.

                                  1. re: New Trial

                                    Good one! I could I have forgot? I remember the Lobster Lobster Lobster menu.

                                    Kind of hard to find.

                                  2. re: john gonzales

                                    I loved Rockenwagner when Hans was on Abbott Kinney. The patio was intimate, charming, romantic, and the food was out of this world!

                                  3. re: foodiemahoodie

                                    Trumps! I remember Trumps. And City!

                                    West Beach, 72 Market St, Rebecca's, those were all such great restaurants. I remember that 72 Market St had great fried chicken and you'd often find Dudley Moore playing piano.

                                    I have to say, the thai food at Tommy Tangs in those first years was really really good. He introduced thai to LA (1st Chan Dara was open, on Cahuenga, and better, but TT had the hip scene)

                                    1. re: yogachik

                                      Michael Roberts of Trumps was a visionary. We used to go there twice a week. He introduced us to a different way of eating. His food was creative and marvelous. Tony Bill and Leonard Schwartz of 72 Market made homey food cool. "Kiss ass chili, meat loaf and mashed potatoes all great. As a sad post script ,Michael Roberts died young from complications of a form of Lou Gherigs disease. Tony and Leonard closed 72 and opened Maple drive. That venue really never worked. Also, I believe Grill on the Alley was born. First time I ever saw fhe mix of French fries and fried onions. Big shout out to Bob Spivack...another visionary
                                      B

                                      1. re: maudies5

                                        Spivak. Knew him way back when he had his first restaurant. It was born around microwave ovens and his dad's creation - Smokey Joe's BBQ.

                                        The place would heat up food in unshielded, high-powered microwaves and serve it on plates. No cooking done on the premises, just heating up. Fine for the ribs and beans , but the sandwiches which were heated up in the microwave? And you'd get that chewy bread?

                                        Wasn't a good idea and it closed. Later he would pull off The Grill and the Daily Grills..

                                        Little known fact about Bob - I believe he competed and won the 100 meter at the Macabbiahn (sp?) games.

                                        1. re: maudies5

                                          God we loved the meat loaf and chili at 72 Market!

                                          Anyone remember The Windsor tucked in behind the Ambassador Hotel? It was a great old traditional spot with professional older waiters who knew how to make a great Caesar salad at the table, and would flame the Duck à l'Orange at the table with Grand Marnier so that the skin was crispy deliciousness. Those days are sadly gone.

                                          ...or the wonderful food at Scandia. These classics are sorely missed.

                                          1. re: josephnl

                                            The Windsor was on one side of the street, The Cove on the other side.

                                            1. re: mc michael

                                              Yes...I completely forgot about the Cove. Nothing like those spots today...Dan Tana is about as close as you can get.

                                              1. re: josephnl

                                                Oh, the Cove does bring back memories. I was only in my 20s when a date started taking me there, but that was one place that made one feel like a real grownup. Especially the vodka gimlets.

                                          2. re: maudies5

                                            I loved 72, loved it, and I love The Grill: Great burgers, great fries, great caesar salad. BUT, you must ask, sotto voce, if they have the sole or the soft shell crab, never on the menu. They're pure heaven.
                                            Oddly my best friend, a 6'4" former model, can eat about four of the kid's sized chicken pot pies - lol!

                                            1. re: yogachik

                                              Bangkok one introduced me to Thai food in the late 70s, which probably predates both Tommy Tangs ('82), and Chan Dara which opened about 30 years ago. When Thai food came to LA, I thought i'd died and gone to heaven.

                                          3. re: john gonzales

                                            Great 80s memories, especially L'Orangerie and Citrus on Melrose. Delicious Ossetra "eggs" and Michel was doing some amazing stuff. Original Patina on Melrose was great too

                                            1. re: Ernie

                                              Another place we liked back in the day was La Toque, the Ken Frank place on Sunset. Even though it opened in '79 we didn't start going until 1983 when I came back to LA from working in Saudi for a few years. I think he ran it for something on the order of 15 years. He was a young chef (24 IIRC) when he opened it. It was a small place, but the cooking was large.

                                              1. re: Servorg

                                                La Toque was great. I believe that Ken Frank was one of Michael's original chefs. Ken Frank was the first (as I recall) to offer a full truffle tasting menu, including ice cream. Pretty damn fabulous. Last I heard he was in Napa. Brilliant chef!

                                                1. re: maudies5

                                                  Ken was/is a master with foie gras. He also was the one to give Brooke Williamson her start.

                                                2. re: Servorg

                                                  It was excellent Too bad he didn't have the financial clout to keep it going.

                                            2. re: dtm323

                                              Well, i've been thinking. There were many small places, small, but very good:
                                              Roda Rumet on La Cie, near Melrose, The Melting Pot, where we brought high ladders and shot our senior project, Mediterania up the street, Nowhere Cafe at Erewhon, loved Quinn's for products and snacks, Bono's, La Masia, Mario's, the Bratskeller and Arthur's in Westwood. In a previous post, mentioned my first Thai food at Bangkok One on La Brea. What fun.

                                              In BH, there was Chasen's, La Dulce Vita, Tail of the Cock (ugh), Perino's where, in the '60s, I once had a side of 12 peas for $3.50, Konditori, charming, quaint and impressed NYers, and my fave, Bistro Garden where they treated us to
                                              LA's first 'Chef's Table' and treated us to the 1st tasting menu every time we came in. They just really loved us! The big guns were always upstairs!

                                              In Hollywood and what became WeHo, there was Martoni's, Orion's, Nuclear Nuance, The Carriage House, and Ben Franks. Then there was our main hangout place, where the waiters never stopped bringing us food and sat down with us to talk about their love life... *Fellini's*!
                                              I still remember one waiter giving us a tape of his song "Take a Hike"

                                              On the Westside, Chicago Pizza Works, Stellini's,
                                              Al Penny's was then the only restaurant in CC. Always crowded; we went b/c they were still open at 2AM, a sure deviation from the LA norm.

                                              In SM, there was a restaurant, can't remember the name, we went there often; it was right next to One Life on Main, and really good. Does anyone remember it? Also on Main St, there was the Oar House, a meat market with sawdust and great bar food. Also, The Great American Food and Beverage Co; enormous plates of food brought to you by singing waiters. Also Wildflower on Main, where shooting up in the booths was not uncommon. A restaurant sister, clean and family safe, Earth Wind and Flour is still on Wilshire. Madame Wu's nearby on Wilshire also, and as someone else mentioned, the student's prince of pizza, Barbera's

                                              Loved this era. Some of these places may have been bigger in the'70s, and may not have lasted long into the'80s, but most made it through.

                                              1. re: VenusCafe

                                                Le Central? It was next next to One Life.

                                                1. re: VenusCafe

                                                  Venus, can you or anyone recall the rather Gourmet Health Market that was originally on the south side of the Blue Whale/Pacific Design Center? The decor wasn't bad and the prepared foods were great! I shopped there often, which was silly because of the prices. It was like an upscale Mrs. Gooch's or Whole Foods (which really didn't exist as a chain yet).
                                                  THANKS!

                                                  1. re: innatestyle

                                                    Think it was called Savory. Or Savory's.
                                                    They had the BEST butters ever! And plenty of different brans.

                                                  2. re: VenusCafe

                                                    Tell me more about Arthur's in Westwood.

                                                    I got to L.A. in late 1986. My first high-end restaurant jaunt was to Chinois on Main, during the football season probably 1987 or '88. Really fun vibe -- it was very crowded and I stood against the back north side wall looking into the kitchen watching the cooks. When we finally found a couple of open seats at the bar, a waiter appeared with some appetizers and said, "You've been waiting -- Wolf would want you to have these." Wonderful treatment.

                                                    1. re: nosh

                                                      yeah, that's why almost 30 years later they're still there.

                                                        1. re: nosh

                                                          High quality customer service of chinois and puck

                                                    2. re: VenusCafe

                                                      We used to go to Madam Wu's before she got fancy and moved to the other side of Wilshire in what I think was an old Swiss place. Grew up in Westwood and I can't place Arthur's at all. Was it in Westwood proper or down on Westwood Blvd?

                                                  3. re: yogachik

                                                    Bistango still exists in OC (Irvine), under the same ownership and just as good as the original on La Cienega.

                                                    1. re: josephnl

                                                      The owner of Vertigo started out as a waiter at Bistango

                                                    2. re: yogachik

                                                      Loved those places. Here's a great article I ran across a few years ago with a terrific tribute to a lot of them. If anyone's interested in this topic you should give it a read:
                                                      http://www.100miles.com/my-restaurant...

                                                      1. re: yogachik

                                                        Do you recall, does anyone recall a less hip but very happening, busy place on the far west reach of Melrose almost to Doheny? Almost to the now defunct Karl's Market. South side of Melrose, it was very busy at lunch, great soups, great salads, especially great veggie dishes. This is the building where both SMOKE and MURANO were located.

                                                        1. re: innatestyle

                                                          You might be thinking of Cafe Figaro--a mainstay in the area at the time.

                                                          1. re: New Trial

                                                            I am indeed - Cafe Figaro. Thank you New Trial! I had the funniest experience there once. The waitress took forever to get to our table, then rushed up breathless exclaiming that she was so sorry but "knew" we'd understand, you see "her agent" was at another table so they had to talk business. lol, we asked for a different server.
                                                            But it was a mainstay, not about cuisine, about energy and location. Thanks again New Trial!

                                                            1. re: innatestyle

                                                              I wonder if her agent left her a 10% tip.

                                                              1. re: New Trial

                                                                Brilliant! He no doubt arranged a starring part on the Gong Show before she returned to Des Moines to marry the son of the local Buick dealer - and that 10% tip!

                                                      2. How about Tamayo Restaurant and the Russian restaurant downtown whose name I can't remember, which I would bet was the first craft brew pub in LA.

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                                                          1. re: FranklinJefferson

                                                            Yes! Thank you.

                                                            All those progressive workers murals on the walls in that very basic industrial space.

                                                            1. re: FranklinJefferson

                                                              Gorky's was great! I lived downtown in a loft for a couple of years in the mid-80's (the very beginnings of the "arts district"). There weren't many places to eat and hang out, but lots of other artists went to Gorky's, the Atomic Cafe, Suehiro, Al's Bar and almost next to Gorky's---Vickmans.

                                                              Vickmans was great for breakfast---sitting at the long tables with factory workers, produce & flower people, truckers. The coffee came in those glass carafes. During Thanksgiving time, the tables would be loaded up with pies waiting for people to pick up their orders.

                                                              Does anybody remember the name of the last Italian deli on Ord street in Chinatown? Sawdust on the floors, celeb pics on the walls and GREAT sandwiches. The Italian sub came with their house Italian dressing that they called "jungle juice"? I loved that place!

                                                              A friend gave me a Gorky's beer coaster recently that he had saved all these years. I have it proudly on my fridge!

                                                              1. re: LAgirl2

                                                                Gorky's was a lot of fun after a night at Al's Bar, Obituary, etc. Good times!

                                                                1. re: LAgirl2

                                                                  Jungle juice ?

                                                                  Can you please describe further ?

                                                                  Thanks.

                                                                  1. re: kevin

                                                                    my best recollection (this was at least 25yrs ago)---probably red wine vinegar, olive oil, salt and pepper. but the quality and proportions of those ingredients were great. they also made a killer meatball sub. very long lines during lunch.

                                                                  2. re: LAgirl2

                                                                    We were in an artist loft in the early 80s. Were Maggie and Steve your landlords? When we left we paid our existing bill with a piece of our art work.

                                                                    Gorky's was definitely fun, Als and the Atomic Cafe also, but after we were there for a long enough time (4 years) we were DELIGHTED to have Cocola's, with the art of Angus Chamberlain dominating the bar AND offering a much needed high end eatery that was really fun to have.

                                                                    1. re: VenusCafe

                                                                      was this in downtown LA in the 80s ????

                                                                      i still really miss 410 Boyd St

                                                                      1. re: kevin

                                                                        Cocolas was DTLA in the mid eighties, for lofties, a mirage and an oasis.

                                                                        http://articles.latimes.com/1988-02-1...

                                                                        When was 410 Boyd closed? Actually when did it open?

                                                                        The only other Boyd St i can think of is Roark's Art Supply, now gone, but DTLA has many art stores now.

                                                                      2. re: VenusCafe

                                                                        We lived in the Globe Tire Bldg which is on Olympic between Mateo and Santa Fe across from the fire station.

                                                                        I forgot about Cocolas!

                                                                        1. re: LAgirl2

                                                                          We overlooked the 4th St Bridge, five year leases on each of 18 units for artists that had to be renovated for individuals to work and live.

                                                                          Each just came with a bathroom; some of our buds almost blew us up installing gas in order to cook!

                                                                          Most of us were too poor to eat anywhere but at home during the first year.

                                                                          BIG shake up during the Whittier quake in '87! Our Dobie, Ebony Mahalo Chicago went missing, but found quaking in
                                                                          an upstairs bathroom.

                                                                          1. re: VenusCafe

                                                                            i didn't even know there was an artist's district in downtown LA in the early 80s.

                                                                            you guys were truly on the forefront.

                                                                            1. re: kevin

                                                                              You are right, Kevin, b/c it didn't become an art district until everyone started moving into more of the area's buildings, circa '85.

                                                                              We negotiated our unit in '82; but it wasn't completed until '83,
                                                                              and it was still pretty raw!
                                                                              It included a special deal for the owners/builders who renovated it, if it included a living space in each of the 18 units; this gave them a BIG discount and a BIG tax break.

                                                                            2. re: VenusCafe

                                                                              No more poor starving artists in the Arts District.

                                                                              1. re: JAB

                                                                                yes---no more starving artists in the arts district. when our lease was up (maybe '86) the owner of our building wanted to triple our rent because of all the work we did to the raw space. "look at this beautiful place, how can you walk away from it"? my ex said "watch me, i'm not paying that type of rent". we ended up moving to silver lake (pre hipsters)

                                                                                @ VC--yes, we only had a bathroom w/ a toilet and sink---the shower was shared by everybody in the building. FREEZING in the winter!

                                                                                we were broke also--but would scrape up coins in leaner times and pick up food @ tacos michoacan (or is it carnitas michoacan?) and at any of the taco trucks or stands around the hood.

                                                                                1. re: LAgirl2

                                                                                  Never ate from the food trucks! But learned to make a pretty fine meal for 12-14 using a double hot plate and a Krups! Seriously good eats.
                                                                                  Our lease was net net net; every week we had someone from the city, the county or the state come in to tell us we had to pay more taxes based upon our improvements and work we did! The entire thing became too unwieldy. I could definitely share a few incredibly rich, complex, humorous, sad, crazy, unique, ironic, weird, tough stories...well i'm sure you know.
                                                                                  It was one of my favorite times ever.
                                                                                  We all moved into our lofts the same weekend.
                                                                                  We bonded. We played. We created.
                                                                                  ~We even played basketball every Friday at the live exhibit court provided by the Temporary Contemporary.
                                                                                  Now that's interactive!

                                                                        2. re: LAgirl2

                                                                          "Does anybody remember the name of the last Italian deli on Ord street in Chinatown?"

                                                                          That would have been Dario's. And you're right about their great sandwiches. A few doors west there was another sandwich place at the S/E corner of Ord & Hill called Stottlemeyer's.

                                                                            1. re: Sam D.

                                                                              yes! Good call Sam---it WAS Dario's (I've been wracking my brain on that one). Too bad they're not still around.

                                                                              1. re: Sam D.

                                                                                How about Yee Mee Loo on Ord and their famous Chinese Tacos! Early fusion.

                                                                                Of course their bar and the famous juke box which supposedly still exists.

                                                                              2. re: LAgirl2

                                                                                Dario's ...jungle juice olive oil vinegar chopped garlic onion probably oregano....it was a great place.....

                                                                            2. re: Gypsy Jan

                                                                              The woman who owned Gorky's lives downtown, I believe in those condos across from Disney Hall. What I'd like, pretty please, is her recipe for Lentil Salad. I came in from Santa Monica for Gorky's, Al's, the Atomic and Madame Wong's for the music.
                                                                              Downtown had it's "fifteen minutes" and frankly so did most of L.A. in the eighties. It was great.

                                                                              1. re: innatestyle

                                                                                Weelllll..I think this is the recipe (or at least it is pretty close). I got it from a lady there some night back in the day.

                                                                                My recall is a little foggy (hey, it was late night in a bar, ya know), but I do remember that red lentils, apricots and honey were essential ingredients:

                                                                                Ingredients:

                                                                                3 tablespoons oil
                                                                                1 large onion, chopped
                                                                                2 cloves garlic, chopped
                                                                                1/3 cup dried apricots, chopped
                                                                                1-1/2 cup dried split red lentils, rinsed
                                                                                5 cups of stock
                                                                                2 Tablespoons fresh lemon juice
                                                                                3 ripe plum tomatoes, peeled, seeded and chopped
                                                                                1/2 tsp. ground cumin
                                                                                1/2 tsp. dried thyme
                                                                                Salt and pepper and honey, to taste

                                                                                Chop the garlic & onions.

                                                                                Clean lentils being sure to remove any small pebbles.

                                                                                In a pot, heat the oil over medium heat. Add the onion, garlic, and dried apricots. Sauté until the onion is translucent, about 12 minutes.

                                                                                Add lentils to the stock. Bring to a boil, then reduce the heat and simmer, covered, until the lentils are tender, about 30 minutes.

                                                                                Stir in tomatoes, cumin, thyme, and salt, pepper and honey. Simmer, covered for another 10 minutes.

                                                                            3. I guess people get more emotional over the James Deans of the restaurant world, that flame out early. This one is definitely a Norma Desmond - Kate Mantilini - which remains unfashionably in existence.

                                                                              Can you think of other places from that period that have lost their youth, and no one wants to know anymore?

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                                                                              1. Does anyone recall a small Italian place in or around Beverly Hills called Franscotti? They had a great thin delicate pizza I can still taste. Of course the best pizza of that or any generation was La Barbaras in West LA!

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                                                                                1. re: Thor123

                                                                                  La Barbara's was good. And gooey. Somewhat comparable is Domenico's at various locations in the SGV at various times.

                                                                                  1. re: Thor123

                                                                                    Boy do I miss La Barbara's Pizza. For me it was my second home and the best pizza in LA. Loved their sausage toping.

                                                                                    ..and for some reason they are listed on Yelp?
                                                                                    http://www.yelp.com/biz/la-barberas-o...

                                                                                    1. re: wienermobile

                                                                                      There was some sort of seed in the sausage. I don't know: anise? coriander?

                                                                                      1. re: mc michael

                                                                                        I remember lots of fennel seed. Sure was good and cheap.

                                                                                    2. re: Thor123

                                                                                      You may be thinking of Frascati, which was on Wilshire in Beverly Hills. I don't remember their pizza but do remember they made the best Monte Christo sandwich. The also had a location in Santa monica

                                                                                      1. re: maudies5

                                                                                        That was it. Thanks. My aunt used to take me there as a kid.

                                                                                      2. re: Thor123

                                                                                        Of course. When I lived in WLA while studying at UCLA (in the late 60's), it was our go to spot for good pizza. By today's standards of Sotto and Mozza, it would likely be 2nd rate, but in those days we loved it!

                                                                                        1. re: Thor123

                                                                                          Do you mean Frascati Grill on La Cienega? (There was one on the Sunset Strip at one time.) I think it was technically Belgian, but they lost menu discipline...

                                                                                          1. re: condiment

                                                                                            Seems to me there was more than one Frascati and they had slightly different names and menus: Frascati Grill, Frascati Cafe, maybe one or two more.

                                                                                            1. re: condiment

                                                                                              Monty's in Pasadena closed at least a year ago.

                                                                                              1. re: judybird

                                                                                                All that's left is the sign. The last remaining Monty's is in Woodland Hills.

                                                                                            2. re: Thor123

                                                                                              Any still in this style of la Barbara's and Fracati that are still around ?