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Jerry's Deli Westwood closed

From KTLA. Jerry's never had a clue about decent edible deli food.

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  1. It's about time. Surprised they lasted as long as they did.

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    1. re: wienermobile

      They weren't bad in the beginning. At least the chicken soup was good, generous portions, tasty broth. And then it started to slide. I gave up on it around 8 years ago. Infuriatingly inconsistent - and never hit the notes it had in the beginning. Too salty, bland, overcooked chicken. Tasted like it came from a mix.

      Stupid. A friend of mine - a former restaurateur - had a saying for a place like that "It's like they've never tried their own food."

      So true. Mind boggling.

    2. The one in Westwood sparsely had anyone in it. Each time I went, the food got progressively worse.

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      1. re: JosephEBacon

        It was famously bad.

        I do feel sorry for the workers who only got three days notice. That's not very long. I hope they find new jobs soon.

        1. re: PaulF

          I feel bad for all those customers that came to Jerry's to experience good Jewish deli food and were served bad. I also feel bad that Jerry's took over a world class deli like Rascal House in Miami and ruined it. I was ready to sit shiva when I saw that for myself. There simply is no alternative to good Jewish deli food. Yes places like Brent's are expensive but at least you get the real deal over there.

          1. re: SIMIHOUND

            That is a big space. It will be interesting to see what goes in there. Do they have a liquor license?

            1. re: maudies5

              full liquor license. filled before every UCLA basketball home game and major holiday. one of the places gentiles went to that was open on XMas and New Year's if they didn't want Chinese food.

            2. re: SIMIHOUND

              Jerry's is actually more expensive than Brent's. Pastrami sandwich at Jerry's $16.95 at Brent's $13.75.

              1. re: wienermobile

                Jerry's was always more expensive and served dreck.

                1. re: wienermobile

                  Pastrami sandwich at Label's Table $8.50, a buck cheaper if the sandwich of the day.

                2. re: SIMIHOUND

                  Once upon a time, when there were only one or two stores (i.e., before about 1992), Jerry's was actually pretty decent. I gave up on the place by the mid-90s, however.

                  1. re: SIMIHOUND

                    I say the same thing about Rascal House all the time. I miss good deli's like the old days in Miami. Rascal House, Wolfie's, Pumpernicks. Oy vay.

              2. I can't believe how long it took for an awful restaurant in a big space - in a high-rent district - to close the doors. I only hope that the employees find new jobs.

                1. Westwood is slowly being revived from the dead, Fab's Hot Dogs is opening next to Diddy Riese, Chick Fil-A is coming in where Burger King was and the Boiling Crab is opening where the old Acapulco was. Along with 800 Degrees, Fundamental LA, Shophouse, UMini, TLT Food, Stan's Donuts & Ike’s Place things are looking up after many many years.

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                  1. re: wienermobile

                    I just posted on the other active thread about Westwood Village. You list a promising line up - I hope it gives the once-thriving area some needed traction.

                        1. re: PaulF

                          Is that a good thing? Isn't the BC on par with the Claimjumper or Cheesecake Factory?

                          1. re: jgilbert1000

                            Not necessarily a good thing.

                            I was just noting that BC was replacing the Brew Co, not Acapulco's.

                      1. When the founder of Jerry's, Ike Starkman, fell into declining health, the place had already fallen down hill, yet the prices continued to climb uphill.
                        His son Guy was more interested in the night club scene, and thus a recipe for the downhill slide - no one to watch over the ship.
                        More of their places will be closing in the not too distant future, unless the entire company is sold to a quality operator, as their leases are expiring, or will soon.

                        1. Did Jerry's Famous Deli take over the old Hamburger Hamlet space or is that just to the left (west)?

                          I agree there are a lot of trendy places moving in recently. But I do not agree that Westwood is reviving. Jerry's is a big storefront and has access to a lot of parking in the rear, and goes under. (Did they validate for that parking?) The large restaurant that was Chili's on the east side of Westwood Blvd. has been vacant for what, two years now? Large storefront, two stories, was successful for a long time as Yesterdays and after less so as Duets. The big Circuit City has been closed forever. The Best Buy went under almost a year ago and appears abandoned. The drugstore above the Ralphs has been gone a long time. The movie theatre next to 800 Degrees is closed.

                          I guess some of the landlords who own the storefronts and are charging ever-increasing rents can wait out the empty properties, and those who own the parking lots and charge $7 to $9 get just enough business to survive. But for Westwood Village to thrive, some of those are going to be forced to bite the bullet, establish some large, convenient free or almost-free parking facilities, and then bring in enough traffic and attract the UCLA student and medical center population so that everyone can thrive.

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                          1. re: nosh

                            parking/traffic are the #1 and #2 reasons why I don't go to westwood village.

                            1. re: nosh

                              "Did Jerry's Famous Deli take over the old Hamburger Hamlet space or is that just to the left (west)?"

                              Jerry's did take over the old Hamlet space.

                              1. re: Servorg

                                You beat me to the proverbial punch.

                                I still miss Hamburger Hanlet. And the owner passed away a couple weeks ago.

                                1. re: Servorg

                                  actually, Hamlet was next door when Jerry's moved in. one of the old time Hamlet servers worked at Jerry's and she told me so.

                                    1. re: Servorg

                                      I think your source is mistaken. Hamburger Hamlet was in the space just west/left of JFD.

                                      1. re: Servorg

                                        I think the server who worked at both places and physically spent decades at both restaurants would be the better source, don't you?

                                  1. re: nosh

                                    Free or almost free parking facilities? I'm howling w/ laughter. UCLA owns some of the property in the village. They'd never allow for free or almost free. They just upped the price of all-day parking on-campus to $12/day. Employees and students would snap up those spots, anyway, and force non-UCLA folks out (except, possibly, for dinner or on the weekend).

                                    It's a lovely fantasy, though. ::sigh::

                                    1. re: ilysla

                                      There's the almost free, at least it's 2 hours free before 6pm lot, on the street that Falafel King is on.

                                      1. re: kevin

                                        Yes, on the east side of Broxton. A structure that was built about a dozen years ago, on that stretch where Broxton is one-way going south and only exits to a right-hand turn west on Kinross.

                                        You know, if UCLA developed some of that property to some multi-level parking even for students and staff it wouldn't be a bad thing. It would draw students/faculty/staff/medical into the Village before and especially after work, into the proximity of businesses who could use the customers.

                                        Note that for almost every new restaurant in the Village, another has bit the dust: TLT replaced The Stand; Ike's took over Subway which moved across the street and replaced Quizno's; Chik-Fil-A (not open yet) replaced Burger King and may get some opposition; Fundamental isn't in the Village, etc. JFD's and Chili's square footage (and two stories) probably dwarf the others put together.

                                        However many restaurants, part of the problem is the scarcity of bar-centric places to drink and hang out. Much higher profit margins. BJ's is beer only, Baxter's (under the current Whole Foods) is gone, O'Malley's O'Hara's, O'Whatever limps along, and Barney's Beanery replaced Stratton's. Yesterdays>Chili's-dead. Westwood Brewing Company-changing into a chain restaurant. Acapulco's, home of the dollar-plus margarita happy hour, dead. Alice's>Tanino --higher-level restaurant, but not a place to drink. Monty's, where older residents and faculty went to drink and take in the killer view, turned into Napa Valley Grille (sort of, why the redevelopment went street-level and gave up that view baffles me). Palomino does a huge happy hour business but has parking issues.

                                        1. re: nosh

                                          The food might not be good at all but I do miss Monty's and Acapulco.

                                          Nosh, your update is quite extensive, thorough, and encapsulates what's going on.

                                          1. re: kevin

                                            Thanks, kevin. Click on my screenname and shoot me an email -- let's do lunch some MWF.

                                          2. re: nosh

                                            I forgot to add in my other post in this thread:

                                            The Glendon is a good place to drink. I've only had appetizers there, so I can't really speak to the food, but the drinks are good and the place has a cool vibe during Happy Hour.

                                            1. re: PaulF

                                              The Glendon used to be Moustache Cafe ?

                                                1. re: PaulF

                                                  What about the Gardens on Glendon? Is that still running? Or did the Glendon replace that?

                                                  1. re: nosh

                                                    That address is now Skylight Gardens. I've never been to either location, so I have no idea what, if anything, has changed.

                                            2. re: nosh

                                              Free parking would be a draw, but, if one had to pay, I don't know if it would. The medical center is sufficiently close to the Village that many people already walk it pretty frequently; I think most of the medical staff also just want to get the heck out of the area as soon as they're done w/ work. Students are used to walking. ;)

                                              I think you bring up a good point about the someone odd variety of places available in the Village. I think the Village might work better if it were clustered into an eating area, a retail area, etc.

                                              But (sort of) back to the thread, I quite enjoyed the cafe in the Hammer Museum the one time I went to it.

                                      2. Its sad for Westwood. That space will probably sit vacant for five years or more I have no idea what's wrong with the landlords in Westwood. They appear to be asking too much rent, and are too stuborn to budge. I was there recently and there are a huge number of vacant storefronts. I can't believe that if rents kept getting lowered, more tenants wouldn't move there. Although parking is difficult, it is in a very affluent area, and parking is equally bad in other areas that have few vacancies (e.g. San Vicente in Brentwood).

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                                        1. re: jgilbert1000

                                          There's a slew of vacant storefront with "For Lease" signs plastered in the windows in Westwood Village.

                                          1. re: kevin

                                            The landlords are not leasing or renewing to just any business that wants to open in Westwood.

                                            1. re: latindancer

                                              Kind of like the studios won't just let any schmo make a multimillion dollar movie. And yet the chosen ones still routinely make total bombs.

                                              I think the selection process is a bit of a crap shoot, no matter what criteria may be used by the landlord. Maybe Bill Chait can get involved? He seems to be the man of the moment in L.A. these days when it comes to well received restaurants.

                                              1. re: Servorg

                                                Being that the landlords make a certain percentage of the business's profits, in certain areas, and the 'reinvention' is part of a city-wide plan it's pretty certain some very nice, high profit businesses are going to go in the those spaces.
                                                When the city's investing many millions one would hope there's a good future.

                                                1. re: latindancer

                                                  Here is part of the Westwood master plan to bring more life into the Village "it moves the Fowler Museum and UCLALive's programs from campus out to theaters in the Village. It also creates a public gathering space at Westwood and Broxton called Zocalo, with a park and ride garage underneath and "an entertainment/conference center/arts hotel 'gateway' complex" above."

                                          2. re: jgilbert1000

                                            <That space will probably sit vacant for five years or more I have no idea what's wrong with the landlords in Westwood.>

                                            There's nothing wrong with the landlords and no, it won't sit vacant for five years.
                                            The city is in the process of reinventing the Westwood area.
                                            The landlords are not renewing leases as of yet...
                                            There's a gentrification plan with a city wide participation, spending many millions in the process, to bring in healthy and productive businesses that will renew the area.
                                            It's been in the planning for a long time.
                                            Read the business section...you'll understand what's happening.

                                            1. re: latindancer

                                              You can read about reinvigorating Westwood Village articles every couple of years. Never happens.

                                              Drove along Le Conte today. Malibu Yogurt, which opened a fairly large storefront just west of Westwood Blvd. and directly across from UCLA Med Ctr a couple years ago, now closed.

                                          3. On a similar note, Waffle Chix also closed.

                                            It was in the old Falafel King location. Not the original Falafel King location, but the location on Broxton, near Barney's Beanery and Five Guys burgers. FK is now across Broxton, really close to Stan's Donuts.

                                            I never made it to Waffle Chix -- even though I work right there. There was never anyone in there and for me there was something slightly unappealing about the massive but empty room.

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                                            1. re: PaulF

                                              Yeah, I checked it out once. I"m suprised they didn't quite make a go of it with their fried chicken and waffles dish supposedly patterned after Roscoe's.

                                              1. re: kevin

                                                I'm sorry I didn't try and support it. As my posts here indicate, I try to hit the hole in the wall places.

                                                For some reason, this one just never got to the top of my list.

                                                In Westwood, I eat in Barney's sometimes. Vast menu, sports on television, love the chicken club sandwich (even though it has too much bread). I go to Sepi's and Headlines, mostly for the food, but partly for the nostalgia as they've been there forever. Falafel King for the same reasons.

                                                I like 800 Degrees, but it's really crowded at lunchtime. There is an Indian place with decent lunch specials in the village, but I prefer to drive all the way to India's Oven for the buffet. Veggie Grill and Native Food fill a niche. I liked The Stand for a hot dog, but it closed. I haven't tried the mini-Umami Burger place on Westwood but I want to give it a go. Mr. Noodle is okay for some dishes, but it's too packed.

                                            2. No more kreplach, No more knishes = No more customers.

                                              If you claim to be a deli... Be a deli!

                                              1. I used to go to the Jerry's in Marina Del Rey about 10 years ago or so. Can't speak to the entire menu as I always got the Cobb salad, but it was a delicious cobb salad!

                                                1. i could never figure out how they stayed open. Currently there is a home-printed sign taped to the doors that advertises Lenny's (formerly Junior's) on Westwood and Pico. Does this mean that it's going to become Lenny's or is Lenny's just taking advantage of the closure?

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                                                  1. re: estnyboer

                                                    i think that means there might be two Lenny's now on the Westside. i doubt that they will close down the Pico/Westwood location.

                                                    1. re: kevin

                                                      Keep in mind there may be 3, as the 17th Street Cafe at 1610 Montana Avenue in Santa Monica has been taken over by one Leonard Rosenberg!!!

                                                      1. re: carter

                                                        My bad.

                                                        Carter, you are the expert on these matters.

                                                        I didn't even know the 17th Street Cafe was closing. It had been there for years (the cafe was not good though it was comforting to know it was there).

                                                        1. re: kevin

                                                          17th Street Cafe was a reliable option and will be missed. I had a 4-onion soup there probably 25 years ago that remains one of the tastiest dishes I've ever had.

                                                          1. re: nosh

                                                            17th Street was bought by the original owner and renamed "Jack's" http://www.jacks-on-montana.com/index... and everything is essentially the same as it was.

                                                            1. re: Servorg

                                                              It had not been Jack's since 1989, per ABC, yet the now- active license shows Leonard Rosenberg as its new owner, seen here:
                                                              http://www.abc.ca.gov/datport/LQSData...
                                                              He can call it anything he wants, but it surely appears that he is the owner. Whether he owned Jack's back in the 80's or before, I have no idea.

                                                                1. re: Servorg

                                                                  Interesting that Rosenberg can be the only stockholder per ABC, yet the boe report might imply that he has no interest.
                                                                  Yes, they could be partners, with Jack as the operator-partner and Leonard the legal/financial owner, or ?
                                                                  Interesting....