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keli175 Jun 27, 2013 11:02 AM

Dad and I were thinking Dim Sum is in order this weekend, I know it has been discussed before -
recent good experiences?
Not concerned too much about location - we are in Lewisville

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    Jon G RE: keli175 Jun 27, 2013 11:07 AM

    Been bouncing between Kirin and Maxim's and having good experiences at both places. We did have to turn away from Kirin a couple of times because the line was too long.

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      keli175 RE: Jon G Jun 27, 2013 12:01 PM

      I have heard that about Kirin.
      Any thoughts/insight on JS CHen? I have also heard theirs was good

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      mjtx RE: keli175 Jun 28, 2013 05:46 AM

      We really like the Dim Sum at JS Chen's at the S.W. Corner of Legacy Dr. & Hwy 75

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        Christnp RE: mjtx Jul 3, 2013 01:54 PM

        We also really like JS Chen's Dim Sum, but only the Legacy near 75 location. They have a second location at Legacy and Coit that is not as good.

      2. air RE: keli175 Jun 28, 2013 07:07 AM

        No brainer because of your location - Hong Kong Royal, easily better than Kirin or Maxim. Strongly do not recommend JS Chen. HKR cooks to order instead of having carts and IMO the food is better this way.

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          twinwillow RE: air Jun 28, 2013 07:54 AM

          I don't always agree with "air" but this time I must.

          Hong Kong Royal is very good! And, I also like the way everything is cooked to order.

          I once stopped in well after normal lunch time and they were very gracious and accommodating despite my being one of very few people in the restaurant.

          I do remember, everything I ate was delicious.

          I've never been to JS Chen so I have no opinion other than to say I've heard both pro & con.

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            demigodh RE: twinwillow Jun 28, 2013 08:13 AM

            It's not often that I consider ambiance (in addition to food quality) in any significant way however dim sum is one such occasion. For me, I want to go to a huge warehouse with tons of people flying around and tons of carts being pushed. I want to see lots of old chinese men reading newspapers and I should barely be able to hear the someone on the other side of the table. For me, that's a good dim sum experience. Because I value that, and quality food, I've been sorely disappointed by the dim sum offerings in Dallas. I heard from a friend that Golden Joy BBQ is really good for dim sum. Has anyone been? I'm considering going this weekend to check it out.

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              twinwillow RE: demigodh Jun 28, 2013 10:20 AM

              I'm afraid after reading your Dim Sum desires, A trip to San Francisco might be the only place to satisfy those desires.

              However, if you're ever in Austin, Dim Sum at T&S Seafood will suffice.

              http://www.google.com/search?client=s...

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                irodguy RE: twinwillow Jul 7, 2013 04:04 PM

                We ate at the top Dim Sum in SF one of the best in the country, and I find that JS Chen BBQ is so close it's not barely worth mentioning the difference. Yes the seafood Dim Sum is better in SF. It's also much more expensive across the board.

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                  c oliver RE: irodguy Jul 7, 2013 04:15 PM

                  What is that place in SF? That's one of the most hotly contested subjects on the SF board with most agreeing the best isn't even in the city or certainly not in Chinatown or the Richmond District.

                  1. re: c oliver
                    irodguy RE: c oliver Jul 7, 2013 06:19 PM

                    Yank Sing both locations

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                      c oliver RE: irodguy Jul 7, 2013 06:22 PM

                      Certainly the most expensive.

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                        twinwillow RE: irodguy Jul 7, 2013 06:40 PM

                        I remember when Yank Sing first opened on Montgomery Street. Before they moved to Van Ness Avenue. Yes, very expensive but, that's San Francisco.

                      2. re: c oliver
                        twinwillow RE: c oliver Jul 7, 2013 06:20 PM

                        Golden Gate Dim Sum Seafood Restaurant on Clement at 19th Avenue is very good. I've been there a number of times. Very good with mostly Chinese diners.

                        However, I remember going to a really large two or three story dim sum "palace" down the peninsula in Millbrae. But, I don't remember the name. But I do remember all the food was incredible! One wall contained many tanks of live fish. (not uncommon in San Francisco).

                        http://www.google.com/search?client=s...

                        After searching my memory and looking at the attached link, I'm now quite sure it was the Hong Kong Flower Lounge.

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                          c oliver RE: twinwillow Jul 7, 2013 06:32 PM

                          Wow, we've got to check that out! Those dim sum prices are great. And hopefully you've got something like that in DFW area.

                  2. re: demigodh
                    air RE: demigodh Jul 1, 2013 06:18 AM

                    Don't quite agree with you on the ambiance for dim sum. Many of the better experiences I've had with dim sum (Sea Harbour and Elite in SGV, Dim Sum King and Arco Seafood in Houston) were at places who do made to order and you use a tally sheet to tick off what you want. To me, overall experience becomes much better because of the higher quality of food without the carts. The main problem I have (specifically in Dallas) is when you show up at Kirin or Maxim and the freshness/turnover of what's on the cart tends to be questionable.

                    However, I will concede one point on made to order: you do miss the impulse nature of being put on the spot if you see something you've never tried on a cart, and you can just point at it to try.

                    Knowing your preferences demigodh, I don't think you will like Golden Joy for dim sum. They have other stuff that is good, but dim sum is certainly not a strength there.

                    If you are willing to drive, perhaps try these two places in Arlington: ABC and Kowloon. ABC actually does both made to order and carts depending on when you show up. I have not been to Kowloon. As far as carts, T&S in Austin and Fung's Kitchen in Houston are where I'd go.

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                      alkonost RE: air Jul 2, 2013 11:21 PM

                      Are there any restaurants serving dim sum that also serve phoenix claws (chicken feet)? Or maybe duck tongues? Anything good in Tarrant County or would I need to head for the Dallas area?

                      I haven't ventured out much for Dim Sum yet, but so far I was pleasantly surprised by a humble dumplings stand inside the Carrolton Hmart food court- I tried the "King Dumplings" which were more like a steamed bun and another steamed pork/veg dumpling for which the name escapes me. Both were very good, I usually pick some up to go whenever I shop at Hmart for Asian groceries.

                      1. re: alkonost
                        air RE: alkonost Jul 3, 2013 06:48 AM

                        Chicken feet is a dim sum staple and you won't have a problem finding that at any dim sum restaurant. Have also seen duck tongue at the cart places but I haven't asked for it at HKR.

                        That dumpling stand is an offshoot of Chef Hsu I believe and they do great fried dumplings as well.

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                          alkonost RE: air Jul 8, 2013 10:52 PM

                          thanks! I had checked out a few menus and didn't see chicken feet on the menu so I figured I'd ask. I could live off of chicken feet and fried shrimp and chive dumplings for the rest of my life. Do the dim sum restaurants tend to make the chicken feet the same way or is there some variety? Every dim sum restaurant I've been to on the east coast & Vegas has their own special recipe and it can be quite different from place to place.

                          I chatted with the owner of the dumpling stand in Hmart last month, he says he bought the stand from a friend of his (would that be Chef Hsu maybe?) 2 years ago, and that he used to run a restaurant out in Greenville before moving to DFW. I haven't had any of the fried dumplings yet, but the steamed veggie, kimchi and king dumplings are really good. My next trip to Hmart I'll try them fried.

                          1. re: alkonost
                            air RE: alkonost Jul 9, 2013 06:27 AM

                            I haven't noticed anything remarkably different about the chicken feet, but I also don't order it often. Would love to hear your thoughts.

                            And if I'm not mistaken, I believe 3 years ago was when the dumpling stand first opened at the Hmart food court? I wasn't ever under the impression ownership had changed hands. All of the dumplings there are great and I just like the fried one the most.

                            On the dumpling front, I also strongly suggest making your way out to the remodeled Jeng Chi. The food has gotten a lot better since the renovations. XLB there is better than the best stuff I've had in Houston.

                            1. re: air
                              alkonost RE: air Jul 9, 2013 10:47 AM

                              It might have been a regional cuisine difference between the restaurants I went to but I've enjoyed dim sum chicken feet served with a spicy black bean sauce, ginger and scallion sauce, a savory/sweet/spicy sauce and salt & pepper style. All of them are great so I'm not picky about which one I get :)

                              My mom was visiting from out of town last and I took her to Hmart and treated her to dumplings at the food court before doing some shopping. The owner came out to take a break as we were eating and struck up a conversation with us and we learned a little bit about him and the dumpling stand. I don't recall his name (I have trouble with accents sometimes) but he's a very nice guy. He showed us the callouses on his fingers from making hundreds of dumplings each day.

                              Thanks for the rec on Jeng Chi, it's been a while since I had a good soup dumpling! I might head on over this week since hubs is out of town, the poor thing is on a low carb diet- which means I'm also on a low carb diet when he's around.

                              1. re: air
                                alkonost RE: air Jul 10, 2013 02:16 PM

                                Hi Air,

                                I just got back from Jeng Chi. I think I must have hit them on an off day. I'll give it a second try in a week or two.

                                1. re: alkonost
                                  twinwillow RE: alkonost Jul 10, 2013 03:24 PM

                                  In addition to their wonderful dumpling dishes, I also love their "twice cooked pork". I order it less spicy.

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                                    alkonost RE: twinwillow Jul 10, 2013 04:00 PM

                                    I need a bigger stomach :) I was looking over their menu and saw a lot of items I wanted to eat- twice cooked pork was one of them!- but there's only so much room in my belly. I got the mini soup dumplings and the salt & pepper shrimp, unfortunately the latter wasn't good but I realize that there's some dishes a restaurant does very well and others are so-so.

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                                      twinwillow RE: alkonost Jul 10, 2013 04:35 PM

                                      Also, be sure to have the Leek Turnover. There's two to an order but you can always take one home with you. The Green Onion Pancake (1) is very good, too. But, we think the Leek Turnover is even better!

                                      I know It's hard to go to a restaurant like Jeng Chi if you're by yourself.

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                                        alkonost RE: twinwillow Jul 10, 2013 07:28 PM

                                        I wanted one so bad, but I held back knowing it would have been far too much food. My in-laws are going to be moving to DFW next year, my MIL would be a great dim sum buddy, she loves going out.

                              2. re: alkonost
                                irodguy RE: alkonost Jul 9, 2013 06:32 AM

                                The chicken feet are done slightly differently. JS Chen and Hong Kong Royale both are savory with a hint of sweet. Kiran Court is a bit more spicy. I don't remember Maxims.

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                                  twinwillow RE: irodguy Jul 9, 2013 09:06 AM

                                  I love chicken feet. When I was kid, my mother would pot roast (like a stew) a chicken (Jewish style) every Friday night.

                                  The chicken feet were my favorite part to eat. But only after I ate the chicken neck's skin, which was stuffed with garlic and onions sauteed in chicken fat and then cooked in a flour roux which was then all stuffed and sewed up in the chicken neck's skin and cooked in along with the chicken. Damn, that was good!

                                  Just thought I'd share that with y'all.

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                                    alkonost RE: twinwillow Jul 9, 2013 09:32 AM

                                    Thanks for sharing, I just wiped up a puddle of drool off my keyboard :)

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                              foiegras RE: alkonost Jul 3, 2013 02:31 PM

                              I thought they all served those (chicken feet)? JS Chen definitely does, and I've been to another one that does but I'm not sure which it was--perhaps Hong Kong Royal?? A bland white storefront as I recall. I have been to these and Kirin Court ... IMO JS Chen (Legacy) more than holds its own with the others I've tried. They also have fabulous savory sticky rice (special order, not on the carts).

                      2. re: air
                        keli175 RE: air Jun 29, 2013 02:48 PM

                        You read my mind. I was just going to ask about HKR close and it appears to have what we all like - I will post after we go and let you know.
                        Thanks for the advice

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                          irodguy RE: air Jul 7, 2013 04:08 PM

                          Air,

                          Which location did you go to? J.S. Chen BBQ on 75 and Legacy has cart service on the weekend. I have hosted large groups at all the DFW Dim Sum places. Hong Kong Royal is good but due to low traffic can have issues. J.S. Chen BBQ is good and high turnover of food. Their Crab fried rice also rocks. We find that JS Chen or HK are better for large groups. Kiran Court is on the borderline of rude trying to move the group along due to their high traffic.

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                            air RE: irodguy Jul 7, 2013 04:56 PM

                            I've never had a good meal at that JS Chen in the entire time it's been open and that's made me super hesitant on trying again. I'll consider revisiting.

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                              irodguy RE: air Jul 7, 2013 06:21 PM

                              JS Chen BBQ not JS Chen on Coit. The crab fried rice is also a definite win.

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                                air RE: irodguy Jul 8, 2013 06:31 AM

                                Oh I know it's the one on Legacy, it's the only one we're talking about.

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                              twinwillow RE: irodguy Jul 7, 2013 06:33 PM

                              Shortly after Kirin Court opened, six of us went for either dim sum or dinner. I don't remember now which it was .

                              Anyway, the service was terribly slow and somewhat arrogant. So, I told the girl serving us I was the restaurant critic for the DMN and I was there to do a review.

                              Well, it didn't take but a split second before we had a half dozen people serving us and asking if everything was OK? They all smiled at us and waved goodbye after we finished and left the restaurant.
                              We all laughed our butts off after we got into the car.

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                                c oliver RE: twinwillow Jul 7, 2013 06:37 PM

                                And hopefully never went back...for just that reason. Ugh.

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                                  twinwillow RE: c oliver Jul 8, 2013 07:13 AM

                                  Never!

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                                  irodguy RE: twinwillow Jul 7, 2013 07:43 PM

                                  While Kirin court does have good Dim Sum it's simply a hassle to eat there. They hoover above you and try to chase you out. I don't blame them it's busy they want the table back. However this does not make for a great experience especially for larger groups.

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                                    foiegras RE: twinwillow Jul 7, 2013 07:54 PM

                                    OMG, that's hilarious!

                                    Few reasons I am not fond of Kirin Court ... I thought it was very noticeable that the quality of the food on the carts improved right about the time everyone was full (we got there when they opened). They must be doing very well, but the decor is just sad. And our noodles (not from the carts) arrived stone cold. Once was enough for me ...

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                                      burntcremebrulee RE: twinwillow Jul 9, 2013 11:24 AM

                                      LOL TW! That's too funny!!!

                                      Did you act like you were taking notes?

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                                        twinwillow RE: burntcremebrulee Jul 9, 2013 12:42 PM

                                        LOL, no we weren't taking notes. It was just a spur of the moment thing. But we all remember the experience and laugh about it when it's brought up.

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                                  foodie06 RE: keli175 Jul 9, 2013 05:42 AM

                                  I thought Kirin Court had a very large selection and the food was good but it was so busy and it did feel rushed and crazy in there. We just went to JS Chen's on Legacy and loved it. Service was great and all the selections we had were outstanding. We are looking forward to going back. Its amazing how different the JS Chen's on Coit is. I've always found their food to be subpar.

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