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Jun 26, 2013 05:00 AM

So Paula did the Today show this morning

Did you watch it? What did you think?

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    1. Well, she invoked the highly successful Popeye Defense.

      My thoughts here, including a shoutout to everyone on Chowhound:

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      1. re: TrishUntrapped

        I hope that means she said "I yam what I yam" and didn't just pop a can of spinach and eat it live on TV. I just don't enjoy watching canned spinach being consumed.

        1. re: Firegoat

          Ha Fire!

          My husband saw me posting and said for the cartoon I should put Paula's head on Popeye and put a large of butter in the spinach can. No, I said, this really isn't funny.

          Hopefully a message was made loud and clear out there, and people will take it to heart.

        2. re: TrishUntrapped

          Even Popeye was semi literate...."I is what I is" Was she making fun of the way blacks speak?

          1. re: BiscuitBoy

            I think it is more her 'authentic' Southern drawl which has been getting more over the top and outragious year after year.

        3. Didn't watch. Read the Eater recap.

          "There is someone evil out there who saw what I had and wanted it."

          No mention of the lawsuit; no mention of the hostile workplace. Just calling the person who brought the lawsuit against her and her brother "evil."

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          1. re: LindaWhit

            I've just decided to try to keep my mouth shut on the issue now. As a lawyer I've known very very sue-happy individuals. I've turned down their cases. Likewise, I've worked in some very very hostile environments. Usually the only woman around 10-15 men who weren't going to tone down any of their boy's club atmosphere. I don't know what happened here. I'm not even going to try to guess. What happens will happen. I don't think she's going to be a bag lady any time soon.

            1. re: Firegoat

              Probably one of the most balanced posts I've read on this subject at Chowhound.

              1. re: Firegoat

                I don't disagree at all with you, Firegoat. I also suspect she'll eventually have another show. Perhaps not on the Food Network, but somewhere. She won't be suffering monetarily. There will always be some who will buy her stuff. I won't. Nor Emeril's, nor Rachael's, nor any celeb-chef's stuff.

                1. re: LindaWhit

                  I admit I bought some Martha Stewart towels for my bathroom. (hangs head in shame) I really like them.

                  1. re: Firegoat

                    If you like 'em, you like 'em. :-) Martha's stuff is about the only one I might entertain buying. It seems of pretty good quality.

                    1. re: Firegoat

                      Shhh.... I bought some beach towels from that "upscale" catalog Martha Stewart had years ago. They're quite nice and have held up longer than many of my other towels.

                      1. re: emily

                        Not a fan of Martha's, but the Martha Stewart sheets I purchased have held up better than many other brands I've gotten.

                          1. re: jujuthomas

                            Same. I love my still crisp Martha @ Macy's sheets!

                      2. re: LindaWhit

                        I needed a soup ladle after I lost my old one (yeah, I know). I got a 30% off coupon in the mail from Kohl's, so I went there and bought a Bobby Flay soup ladle.

                        It makes a difference. I feel like a real Iron Chef when ladling soup these days. No way would I go back to a non-celebrity ladle.

                        1. re: JonParker

                          I'm fairly sure I am not the only one interested in the story of how one "loses a soup ladle"

                          1. re: Firegoat

                            It's very boring. I think it disappeared after I forgot to take it home after a church lunch.

                            1. re: JonParker

                              You couldn't have built that up a bit more for us?
                              Was there an exorcism going on at the church that needed a ladle? Work with us here.

                              1. re: Firegoat

                                I'm nominally a Methodist. The closest I can get is that here in Oklahoma that's one step up from a Satanist.

                                1. re: JonParker

                                  So perhaps you had to beat off a roving band of Baptists with said ladle???

                          2. re: JonParker

                            Whatever you do, PLEASE don't go jumping on the counter on your cutting board, JonParker? :-P

                            1. re: LindaWhit

                              Look at the drama you are ladling upon us JonParker! We need more plot!

                            2. re: JonParker

                              Similarly, I purchased a Giada panini pan, and every time I take a bite out of a panino made in said pan, my teeth sparkle all the more.

                              :D <-- See?

                              1. re: inaplasticcup

                                Did it come with a free baby doll T for the full effect?

                                1. re: rasputina

                                  And a giant bobble head? Man.... I bet the tooth fairy assigned to her house has a lot of regrets.

                                  1. re: Firegoat

                                    My best girlfriend calls her lollypop head. I have to say when I saw her walk out on the recent Next Food Network Star episode she looked positively anorexic. She has always been quite thin but seemed even more so. And that was with TVs supposed added pounds.

                                  2. re: rasputina

                                    No, and sadly, my bewbs are no more fabulous than pre-purchase, either. :(

                                  3. re: inaplasticcup

                                    Geez, I need to get one of those things and stop wasting my $$ on bleaching at the dentist!

                                    1. re: alliegator

                                      Dear Daughter likes PD and was excited to find her products in Big Lots. Had a nice chat about economics and the fact that PD's stuff was there because they couldn't sell it at retail prices. Then had a further talk that the PD cookbook she wanted to buy was great for Lowcountry cooking. But that just because Lowcountry was Southern, not all Southern was Lowcountry and she would need to buy more.

                                      Thank you Paula Deen for this memorable teaching moment.

                                    2. re: inaplasticcup

                                      Did it make your head bob like a chicken and your arms move like a Praying Mantis? Sorry but everytime I see her that's all I can think of.

                                      1. re: inaplasticcup

                                        But did you start pronouncing "mozzarella" in a forced, exaggerated way?

                                        1. re: Steve Green

                                          LOL. Everyone in my family loves to go around saying Italian ingredients with hyperItalian diction, followed by a *DING!* to represent the blinding sparkle of the gajillion watt smile that invariably follows. ;)

                                          1. re: inaplasticcup

                                            Everybody on this little subthread just made my month.

                                            Pahn CHIT ta.

                                            1. re: pinehurst

                                              On a similar note, I was watching American Baking Competition with Marcella as a judge. She talks completely normal (for me... basic midwest accent) until she pronounces chorizo or any other "Mexican" ingredient. Just makes me smile a bit and think about Ri COT tah

                                              1. re: Firegoat

                                                i've noticed "everyone" calling it "ree-coat-ah". Emphasis on the "coat".
                                                Sorry, not going to catch on in my home.

                                                  1. re: Firegoat

                                                    Ugh, I just can't keep up with how these crazy kids are pronouncing food these days. I think at a certain point, I'm just fine with how I pronounce something, barring any real missteps, like mascarpone vs. marscapone. I get that.
                                                    I remember watching RR's show a couple years ago and she said she's changed the way she pronounced paprika because a Turkish (?) friend pronounced it PAPrika and I guess RR thought that was more authentico, so changed how she pronounced it, which I though was odd for a woman over 40.
                                                    I'll always say potato, not patahto.
                                                    Oh well...

                                                    1. re: monavano

                                                      I did change the way I pronounced Quinoa after I turned 40. (and actually ate it.) And subsequently discovered I wasn't just pronouncing it wrong.... I was REALLY pronouncing it wrong. And now I have an idea for a new thread.

                                                  2. re: monavano

                                                    "i've noticed "everyone" calling it "ree-coat-ah". Emphasis on the "coat"."

                                                    Have you ever been to Italy? It's pretty much how they pronounce it. A basic rule of pronunciation in Italian is that the second syllable is the one that is stressed. Also, the "o" is pronounced as a "long o" sound. I know we are in the US and pronounce foreign words as adapted to our language, but I am just pointing this out for what it's worth.

                                                    1. re: ttoommyy

                                                      Thanks for the background. I thought as much, but it seems to be catching on now. At least I'm hearing it more.

                                                      1. re: monavano

                                                        You're welcome!
                                                        I think what we are seeing is an "education" of sorts on how to correctly pronounce foreign words that have been in our lexicon for years. The same with last names. News reporters are no longer required to pronounce their names, if Hispanic in origin say, as if it were an English word. They now pronounce them with all the flourishes one would hear in their native lands. For so long many foreigners and offspring of foreigners born in this country tried to hide their nationality in some ways and assimilate into the "American" culture. (This is especially true of people like more born in the 60s.) For the last couple of decades we have started to embrace our cultures and therefore there is a proliferation of words we were used to hearing one way now being pronounced the way they should be.

                                                      2. re: ttoommyy

                                                        More ree-cot-ah, not ree-coat-ah

                                                        1. re: ttoommyy

                                                          There are two different stressed "o" sounds in Italian. The one in "ricotta" is the open "ò" which is more like the one in English "cot" than the one in "coat" (actually something in between).

                                                          But I'm guessing that monavano's point was that the most familiar (and fully acceptable) pronunciation in American English is something like "ruh-codda", emphasis on the "cod".


                                                      3. re: Firegoat

                                                        Marcella is all in with the Spanish pronunciation. She's like a bad stereos type.

                                                        1. re: Withnail42

                                                          Stereos type? Mine only manages to take up space and I don't know how to get rid of it. It never typed. ;))

                                                          Truly, we are living in a global society, and we seem to want to immerse ourselves and learn and cook authentically. Not sure why actual pronunciation would be a bad thing.

                                                    2. re: Steve Green

                                                      Didn't she grow up in Italy? So many Italian folks here say it "rih gut."

                                                      1. re: mcf

                                                        "Didn't she grow up in Italy? So many Italian folks here say it "rih gut."

                                                        That's an Italian-American bastardized way of pronouncing it. In Italy, it's pronounced pretty much the way Giada says it. I grew up ans an Italian American pronouncing it "rih gut." But after having travelled to Italy and studied the language a little, I just cannot say it that way anymore. I am not being pretentious, it's just what it is.

                                                        1. re: mcf

                                                          There is in fact not really one Italian language. How you pronounce words in Italy depends on where you're from and which dialect you speak. Words like Rih gut, gavatel (cavatelli) mutz or mutzarell are from the southern dialects, where most Italians emigrated from.

                                                        2. re: Steve Green

                                                          This sub thread is so long I'm not sure who to reply to. Anyway, today in the supermarket I saw a guy in a chef's jacket (Bella Sera restaurant) ask an employee if they had amaretto (pronounced a la Giada) cookies. Amaretto was the only word pronounced with the overly Italian accent. I had trouble not rolling my eyes. Damn, I actually went to the liquor store after that to buy amaretto. I should have asked an employee where it was just so I could pronounce it like he did!

                                                    3. re: LindaWhit

                                                      There are Paula Deen knives in my kitchen. They were there when I arrived so I blame SO's ignorance about anything food or cooking related. I think his mom gave them to him when he bought the house, there's was all sorts of random hand me down stuff in his kitchen. They aren't bad knives though, I use the big chef's knife when my nicer Global is already being used for something else.

                                                      And, I love me some Martha.

                                                      1. re: LindaWhit

                                                        Emeril Pro-Clad by AC is good stuff. Dansk makes Mario Batali's cast iron pizza pan, also high quality.

                                                        1. re: LindaWhit

                                                          For everyone who uses celebu-chef branded cookware - I'm glad you like them and they work for you. I just never had a need to put more money in their pockets for something I sincerely doubt most of them use in their home kitchen, nor do I have a need for anything additional in my kitchen

                                                          I'm 54 years old and I'm still using (mostly) the Farberware that I got when I was about 25 or so (after my first set of non-celebu-chef branded cookware lost all of its Teflon). Calphalon fry pans fill in the rest.

                                                          1. re: LindaWhit

                                                            My mother bought both me a nice set of Cuisinart cookware for Christmas this year. (I had lost my very large and wonderful collection of copper pans earlier that year to theft --- yes copper thieves don't just get your air conditioning tubing they will get your pans!) She had taped over the brand name and wrote "Rachael Ray" on the box instead. It made for a good laugh. Needless to say I'm not a fan and mom was well aware.

                                                            1. re: Firegoat

                                                              ROFL! OK, I like your Mom.

                                                              And DAYAM on having your copper pans stolen. :-(

                                                              1. re: LindaWhit

                                                                Oh don't even get me started. Completely irreplaceable. And I know they were melted down for a tiny tiny fraction of what they were worth. Probably to fund someone's meth bake. I lost a lot of things in that theft but that is probably the one that I think about the most... every time I step into the kitchen. I am glad they were not replaced with bright orange RR products. :D The did catch the two thieves, and the brilliant prosecutor (I"m a former prosecutor so I feel like I have the right to talk a bit) reduced the felony to a misdemeanor and handed out probation. Recovered none of my property. They were ordered to pay restitution. A year and a half later, not a dime. And one is back in jail... only because I called their victim coordinator to ask why I had no restitution. She told me that an arrest warrant was out for one of them for "months" but they couldn't find him. I looked him up on Facebook and called her back. There he is! She said she'd let the Sheriff's office know. Saw he was arrested a month later and has been in jail about 3 more months. Yeah. I'm never going to see any restitution but it did make me feel a little better. )

                                                                1. re: Firegoat

                                                                  Wow, it took looking him up on FB to get him? What are these people doing for "months"?
                                                                  I'm attached to some of my cookware, so I know it would hit me where it hurts. I also know I probably wouldn't be running out to get an orange handled oval pot as a replacement!
                                                                  btw... love how RR talks about that pot like it's the world's most brilliant pasta pot. Uh, pasta gets pliable just about within seconds and then... tada! it fits into your round pot!

                                                                  1. re: monavano

                                                                    Oh yeah. It hurt. I was in the process of moving states and had it in boxes (along with tons of other boxes) in a locked storage shed at my parent's farm. Some of them were antiques. One in particular was a gift from a dear friend and ridiculously expensive. The sad part is that I had a beautiful copper pot rack that hung from the ceiling for them.... they left that behind. I can't stand to even look at it.

                                                                  2. re: Firegoat

                                                                    Amazing. Just looking him up on Facebook - meaning it's a public page. Moron. He deserves to be in jail. Sorry no restitution, but at least a bit of satisfaction having found him and making him sit his ass in jail for a bit. Having the pots be antiques makes it worse. You're right - melted down for a lot less than they're actually worth.

                                                                    And yes - kudos to Mom for not getting neon orange pots to replace the copper "because they're almost the same color!" ;-)

                                                        2. re: LindaWhit

                                                          At the 6:00 minute mark they start to discuss what she said in the deposition, and she states that she finds it “very distressing” when she goes into her kitchens and hears the “young people” throwing “that word at each other.” It sounds to me like she just acknowledged that her restaurant kitchens are, in fact, hostile work environments.

                                                          1. re: EM23

                                                            I'm pretty sure most high schools are hostile work environments if that is the standard.

                                                              1. re: Njchicaa

                                                                Nah....I used to teach high school. Teenagers are much more mature than adults!

                                                              2. re: Firegoat

                                                                Oh good. I was interested in your opinion FG since you are an attorney.
                                                                As the employer, isn't she responsible for correcting the behaviors of her employees. By not doing so, isn't she allowing for a hostile workplace?

                                                                1. re: EM23

                                                                  Ultimately as an owner she is responsible. I have no idea what they set down for their managers to follow or if their managers followed what they were told to do. I"m not her attorney and not an employment attorney and I have no idea how they set up their checks and balances and management. I can't really say more than that.

                                                              3. re: EM23

                                                                My impression is that pro kitchen are pretty salty.

                                                                  1. re: monavano

                                                                    Agreed. It just struck me as odd that PD, a defendant in a lawsuit charging a hostile work environment, would say that she has experienced distress listening to "that word" being used in her kitchens.

                                                                    1. re: EM23

                                                                      I can just see Paula covering her virgin ears and grasping her pearls at all the cussing in the kitchen.
                                                                      In fact, I think she could make a longshoreman blush.

                                                                  2. re: EM23

                                                                    She might be referring to black employees calling each other that word as it appears to be acceptable and commonplace.

                                                                1. On Today show, around 9:30, an announcement was just made that she lost another endorsement (Not QVC). I didn't catch what it was. Anyone?

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                                                                  1. We're going to need some guidance from the "What's for dinner?" folks about how to keep up with the four (and counting) active PD threads on this board… "What's for breakfast, lunch, and dinner? Paula Deen!" Parts 1 through 79243.

                                                                    On the subject of the "n"-word, PD either lied in her deposition, or lied to Matt Lauer today, or both. She is now on record directly and explicitly contradicting herself on this issue (which may not be a major point in the lawsuit, but is clearly important for the media and for many people following this story).