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buttertart Jun 24, 2013 05:02 PM

Now that I have ChemKin's attention...I was in Tokyo a few weeks ago and visited the Masamoto shop at Tsukiji...scored a nakiri and a gyuto, Japanese handles, water buffalo horn band, carbon steel...I'll post photos...I am in love with these things. FINALLY!

  1. k
    knifesavers Jun 28, 2013 11:59 AM

    Hopefully you grabbed some stones over there also.

    Those pumice sponges are awesome.


    1. buttertart Jun 25, 2013 04:07 PM

      The goods.

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      1. re: buttertart
        buttertart Jun 25, 2013 04:14 PM

        And a fine pumice to take off any rust...I love the calligraphy of their name...

        1. re: buttertart
          buttertart Jun 25, 2013 04:20 PM

          So do I finally get the girl knife nerd award, or what?

          1. re: buttertart
            Chemicalkinetics Jun 27, 2013 05:45 AM

            Heh heh heh. Nice photos. The last two photos definitely point to Masamoto Tsukiji (suggested by bkultra). I am looking at your second photo, and I am not sure if it is a nakiri or an usuba. Do you know if the knife bevel is one-sided or two sided. Usuba tends to be much thicker and the bevel is one side. An usuba would be either (a) or (c) as shown below. One side looks almost flat.


            Did these knives cost you a lot?

            P.S.: Yes, you got the knife nerd award.

            1. re: Chemicalkinetics
              buttertart Jun 27, 2013 02:07 PM

              It's a double-sided bevel. One side of the shop is all one-sided, the other double.
              Total 23,000 yen including the pumice which was 1,300 yen.
              It's definitely Tsukiji, the shop is in the neighborhood (which is amazing), and the wrapping indicates same.

              1. re: buttertart
                Chemicalkinetics Jun 27, 2013 09:50 PM

                Great. A nakiri (doubled sided bevel) is much easier to use than an usuba. If I remember correctly, you had been looking for a nakiri for awhile, so this is great.

                23,000 yen, you said. Not a cheap knife you got there. Not crazy expensive, but not cheap.

                1. re: Chemicalkinetics
                  buttertart Jun 28, 2013 11:18 AM

                  That's for both of them plus the pumice, CK.

                  1. re: buttertart
                    Chemicalkinetics Jun 29, 2013 10:43 AM

                    Oh. Both knives. Then, they are not expensive. Got it. Thanks.

                    1. re: Chemicalkinetics
                      buttertart Jul 1, 2013 07:37 AM

                      No, I was happily surprised by the cost.

        2. re: buttertart
          JavaBean Jun 27, 2013 08:14 AM

          Awesome picks, congrats. How the heck did you leave that store without buying or at least playing with each one. :-)

          1. re: JavaBean
            buttertart Jun 27, 2013 02:07 PM

            It was tough. I was in heaven.

        3. Chemicalkinetics Jun 24, 2013 05:55 PM

          <Now that I have ChemKin's attention>

          Ha ha ha

          <I was in Tokyo a few weeks ago and visited the Masamoto shop at Tsukiji...scored a nakiri and a gyuto.....>

          Nice. Congratulation.

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          1. re: Chemicalkinetics
            buttertart Jun 25, 2013 04:05 PM

            It was only a matter of time...

          2. w
            wabi Jun 24, 2013 05:28 PM

            The only way I can console myself is to know that I ordered a Richmond Laser Petty knife over the weekend from Chefknivestogo.

            I have a serious knife fetish. PLEASE post pictures.

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            1. re: wabi
              buttertart Jun 25, 2013 04:10 PM

              I have had the Richmonds recommended to me lately. I'm mad at myself for not getting a petty in Tokyo.

            2. cowboyardee Jun 24, 2013 05:21 PM

              Masamoto makes very good quality knives. Nice pick up. You know which line[s] you got?

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              1. re: cowboyardee
                bkultra Jun 24, 2013 07:18 PM

                I think you are referring to Masamoto sohonten (KK,KS, etc.) not Masamoto tsukiji. Masamoto sohonten does not have a store front.

                1. re: bkultra
                  cowboyardee Jun 24, 2013 08:51 PM

                  Good catch.

                  Anyone know to what extent masamoto tsukiji's knives differ from masamoto sohonten's? I've seen the two described as 'sister companies,' but I know very little about the tsukiji knives. Now I'm really looking forward to the pics.

                  1. re: cowboyardee
                    bkultra Jun 24, 2013 09:02 PM

                    They started as one Co. (Same Family) and split for what ever reason. Sohonten means "original, first, home office", this is the better known Masamoto. Tsukiji (築) is a much smaller operation and will even engrave your name in kanji on the knives (carbon steel ones at least). There is zero affiliation with each other now. Both make excellent knives.

                    1. re: bkultra
                      Chemicalkinetics Jun 24, 2013 10:30 PM

                      Interesting story. I didn't know. Certainly, both have the same brand name Masamoto (正本). Not only that, the style which the words 正本 is written is nearly the same. Both appear to produce high end traditional Japanese knives -- with blue steels and white steels.

                      1. re: Chemicalkinetics
                        la2tokyo Jun 25, 2013 05:00 PM

                        The two companies broke off from one another at some point. I have been told that differences in opinion about marketing and things like that forced a split. I assume that means a family split. Both companies make very nice knives, with about the same profile and feel. The store at Tsukiji is for Tsukiji Masamoto only. Sohonten sells many of their knives through bigger channels like department stores and big retailers. If you are in the market for very expensive honyaki knives with more exotic handles, inlays, and spacers, Sohonten makes makes more of that kind of thing than Tsukiji. For anything under ¥40,000 I think the products are very similar.

                        1. re: la2tokyo
                          bkultra Jun 25, 2013 05:10 PM

                          I happen to own a Masamoto Honyaki gyuto (240mm). I had it polished by Jon at JKI to bring out the hamon.

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