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Jun 24, 2013 05:02 PM

Masamoto knives...

Now that I have ChemKin's attention...I was in Tokyo a few weeks ago and visited the Masamoto shop at Tsukiji...scored a nakiri and a gyuto, Japanese handles, water buffalo horn band, carbon steel...I'll post photos...I am in love with these things. FINALLY!

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  1. Masamoto makes very good quality knives. Nice pick up. You know which line[s] you got?

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    1. re: cowboyardee

      I think you are referring to Masamoto sohonten (KK,KS, etc.) not Masamoto tsukiji. Masamoto sohonten does not have a store front.

      1. re: bkultra

        Good catch.

        Anyone know to what extent masamoto tsukiji's knives differ from masamoto sohonten's? I've seen the two described as 'sister companies,' but I know very little about the tsukiji knives. Now I'm really looking forward to the pics.

        1. re: cowboyardee

          They started as one Co. (Same Family) and split for what ever reason. Sohonten means "original, first, home office", this is the better known Masamoto. Tsukiji (築) is a much smaller operation and will even engrave your name in kanji on the knives (carbon steel ones at least). There is zero affiliation with each other now. Both make excellent knives.

          1. re: bkultra

            Interesting story. I didn't know. Certainly, both have the same brand name Masamoto (正本). Not only that, the style which the words 正本 is written is nearly the same. Both appear to produce high end traditional Japanese knives -- with blue steels and white steels.

            1. re: Chemicalkinetics

              The two companies broke off from one another at some point. I have been told that differences in opinion about marketing and things like that forced a split. I assume that means a family split. Both companies make very nice knives, with about the same profile and feel. The store at Tsukiji is for Tsukiji Masamoto only. Sohonten sells many of their knives through bigger channels like department stores and big retailers. If you are in the market for very expensive honyaki knives with more exotic handles, inlays, and spacers, Sohonten makes makes more of that kind of thing than Tsukiji. For anything under ¥40,000 I think the products are very similar.

              1. re: la2tokyo

                I happen to own a Masamoto Honyaki gyuto (240mm). I had it polished by Jon at JKI to bring out the hamon.

    2. Jealous!
      The only way I can console myself is to know that I ordered a Richmond Laser Petty knife over the weekend from Chefknivestogo.

      I have a serious knife fetish. PLEASE post pictures.

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      1. re: wabi

        I have had the Richmonds recommended to me lately. I'm mad at myself for not getting a petty in Tokyo.

      2. <Now that I have ChemKin's attention>

        Ha ha ha

        <I was in Tokyo a few weeks ago and visited the Masamoto shop at Tsukiji...scored a nakiri and a gyuto.....>

        Nice. Congratulation.

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          1. re: buttertart

            And a fine pumice to take off any rust...I love the calligraphy of their name...

            1. re: buttertart

              So do I finally get the girl knife nerd award, or what?

              1. re: buttertart

                Heh heh heh. Nice photos. The last two photos definitely point to Masamoto Tsukiji (suggested by bkultra). I am looking at your second photo, and I am not sure if it is a nakiri or an usuba. Do you know if the knife bevel is one-sided or two sided. Usuba tends to be much thicker and the bevel is one side. An usuba would be either (a) or (c) as shown below. One side looks almost flat.


                Did these knives cost you a lot?

                P.S.: Yes, you got the knife nerd award.

                1. re: Chemicalkinetics

                  It's a double-sided bevel. One side of the shop is all one-sided, the other double.
                  Total 23,000 yen including the pumice which was 1,300 yen.
                  It's definitely Tsukiji, the shop is in the neighborhood (which is amazing), and the wrapping indicates same.

                  1. re: buttertart

                    Great. A nakiri (doubled sided bevel) is much easier to use than an usuba. If I remember correctly, you had been looking for a nakiri for awhile, so this is great.

                    23,000 yen, you said. Not a cheap knife you got there. Not crazy expensive, but not cheap.

                    1. re: Chemicalkinetics

                      That's for both of them plus the pumice, CK.

                      1. re: buttertart

                        Oh. Both knives. Then, they are not expensive. Got it. Thanks.

                        1. re: Chemicalkinetics

                          No, I was happily surprised by the cost.

            2. re: buttertart

              Awesome picks, congrats. How the heck did you leave that store without buying or at least playing with each one. :-)

            3. Hopefully you grabbed some stones over there also.

              Those pumice sponges are awesome.