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Master Chef 6/19

No sure if there's been an uglier (personality wise) person than Krissy on MC. She's profane, hypocritical, and a bully.

I don't like the sabotage injected in these two episodes. It's one thing to give winners immunity, but to give winners the opportunity to sabotage their strongest competitors isn't consistent with finding the "best" home cook.

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  1. And neither is Joe B completely ripping into a contestant going to find the best home cook or encourage anyone to even try. Howard may have screwed up pasta, but Joe was over the line with him.

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    1. re: DiningDiva

      Douchiness seems to be an inherited trait in Joe's family.

        1. re: madeliner

          If you think slavery is douchy, yeah.

          1. re: mcf

            Was that ever proven? and ya it is douchy

            1. re: madeliner

              Have you ever heard a denial from Lidia, or another peep from the Italian accuser?

              Lidia likely did the type of crisis management that Paula Deen failed to. And FAST. That news cycle was over almost as soon as it started.

      1. re: DiningDiva

        I was really annoyed with how the judges were putting down creativity in the pasta challenge. Granted, Howard's pasta might have tasted bad (also the guy with the maple) but they seemed to reject both just because it wasn't proper Italian.

        I have come across this attitude with some Italian people who think Italian food is sacred and can't be personalized. So annoying. Who cares if it tastes good. They should be given some acknowledgement for creativity.

        I have been a stickler in the past about certain dishes tasting the way they are supposed to. However, sometimes creativity makes a dish better. I once had Korean rice cakes with melted cheese on top. This is not traditional; it was probably created by Korean college students adapting their food to the college environment. It's delicious!

        They did not say the contestants had to make the pasta Lidia made. So they were free to make whatever filling and sauce they wanted. If it didn't taste good then fine, but they seemed to be slamming the contestants' gall at daring to deviate from accepted Italian pasta fillings and sauce.

        Also, I was disappointed that we didn't see them tasting Luca's dish. I figured he would turn out a winning pasta.

        1. re: chefhound

          I also dislike it when they are tasting everyone's dishes and they deliberately don't show some. I understand they have a set amount of time.... but cut some of the repeats after each commercial or something.

          1. re: chefhound

            I agree...Howard's dish may have not been all that great, and, he hasn't been the strongest of competitors, but what right does that give Joe to absolutely destroy him in front of the other contestants and in front of a TV audience of several million. Howard is from San Diego, as am I, (no I don't know him) and I can tell you there is a huge amount of cross border flavor melding going on right now. Howards, mistake was in not aggressively playing to the Baja Med theme. The San Diego/Northern Baja area has a climate very much like Italy and produces many of the same products, how the chefs on both sides of the border have chosen to work with them is certainly different than Italy and the rest of the Mediterranean for that matter. There has been for some time a strong Italian influence in Tijuana where they openly combined the Italian with the Mexican; they aren't so concerned about "tradition", Mexican or Italian :-). But Howard is also right when he says that San Diego does not have a strong Italian food community. He was on the right track but executed poorly. There was no need to publicly eviserate him.

            I, too, thought Luca would have nailed this challenge.

            1. re: DiningDiva

              Maybe they figured they spent too much time on luca the past two episodes... but then again why build up a character so much then basically ignore him completely? I would think it would be interesting to see someone that nearly went home try to bounce back and do it in an Italian challenge. But, I'm not a TV producer.

              1. re: DiningDiva

                I also thought the treatment of Howard was obnoxious. In other cooking competition venues, it's all about what you personally bring to the dish, and that's what he was doing. I don't think he was being disrespectful of italian food; he was putting his spin on it. Now maybe it didn't taste good, but they made him out to be a lazy, self-indulgent narcissist (and even used that word). That is way over the line.

                1. re: DGresh

                  I think that so far it is interesting that I can't find a post elimination interview from Howard online, but there is one from Bime, Kathy etc. I know that the contestants really have their hands tied by the contracts they sign. Makes me wonder if there will ever be one.

                2. re: DiningDiva

                  As I recall, Joe vouched for Howard in the trials. So there would be that.

                3. re: chefhound

                  Completely agree. So much of the history of food has been with mixing ingredients and techniques - tomatoes aren't native to Italy, and now they're a lovely part of the cuisine.

                  Yes there's a point to mastering the basics and understanding the basics - but sometimes messing with tradition, mixing and matching creates great new flavors and ideas.

                  Now I get that if you're cooking for Joe, that trying to convince him that linguine with clam sauce topped with parmesan is a good idea probably won't get you far. But the way he behaved by someone's attempt at bringing different ingredients together really gives the notion of sticking to the classics a bad name.

                  1. re: cresyd

                    I thought even Gordon looked a little taken aback at Joe's crazy ass rant.

                    1. re: Firegoat

                      but Gordon was the one who did that whole "act like a man and give up your apron" thing, which I also thought was mean-spirited.

                      1. re: DGresh

                        What if Lynn whipped off his apron? I'm guessing there was a producer in the background pointing to Howard so they knew they meant him?

                        1. re: Firegoat

                          The "take off your jacket, you know who you are" has been done before, and is probably a result of producer interviews beforehand. Lynn feels good, Howard feels bad, you're voting Howard anyway...

                  2. re: chefhound

                    i think this kind of food is called "fusion" :-))

                    1. re: ritabwh

                      that is what we call it when we have several take away countainers in the fridge on Sunday afternoon and make lunch out them... "fusion" lunch..

                    2. re: chefhound

                      Funny thing about that purist attitude: I find it's more common among people outside of Italy. Most of my relatives and friends who are still in the "old country" improvise all the time -- they have methods and recipes they prefer, but they're not sticklers. Over here, nostalgia makes people stick to traditions that may not even exist in Italy anymore. (For example, I know several Italians here who insist on chopping everything by hand because it's how their mothers did it; meanwhile, my relatives in Italy all use mini food processors because it saves time.)

                      1. re: piccola

                        interesting. One of the worst offenders is Marcella Hazan in my opinion. Though I love and appreciate her recipes greatly, there's an undercurrent of "of course, you will never be able to make it quite as well if you have to use American basil, or non-Mediterranean fish, or god-forbid, if you use a food processor".

                        1. re: piccola

                          The whole point of great Italian food is to utilize the best, fresh available ingredients. Why would it be a problem for someone who used the different fresh ingredients they had available?

                          1. re: chicgail

                            Exactly. But you know how it is - some people have very rigid views about food. They don't realize that cooking naturally evolves with time.

                            I should add that I'm all for classic recipes. And that while it's fine to experiment with recipes, don't call them by the same name or you'll justifiably get backlash (for example, carpaccio can't be cooked or it's no longer a carpaccio). But go ahead and play around.

                            1. re: piccola

                              My philosophy has become that "authenticity" has more to do with the technique than the ingredients. Your carpaccio, for instance. Hammered and raw, yes, fried no.

                              On the other hand, you can't fry ham and call it a fried egg, but then if I serve biscuits with white or brown gravy, giblet or sausage, it's still biscuits and gravy and no one cares what region it came from.

                              If a Thai family moves to Texas and substitutes jalapenos for their traditional chilies, as far as I'm concerned they are still Thai recipes, not Tex-Mex.

                              1. re: ennuisans

                                That's pretty much how I see things, too.

                    3. Vigliacca. If she had any brass ones, she would have stayed in and baked a meringue pie. Bime did mess up in a big way though, and I think he did deserve to go home. Krissi is soon gonna realize just how "ugly" she actually is, drop some weight, and then go join the likes of beasts like Lisa Lampanelli.

                      1. Beauty and the beast?


                        if these people subject themselves to that sort of nonsense they deserve what they do or don't get

                        Joe is just an asshole - it's fun to watch him be that tho

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                        1. re: madeliner

                          That seemed incredibly tacky. Krissi (at least on camera) appeared to take it in good humor. I'm not sure I would have reacted as well to being called a beast on TV. Not sure what the point of having team captains is if they don't get to pick their teams.

                          1. re: Firegoat

                            Oddly, I didn't hear the designation "beast" as being synonymous with ugly (although with Krissi at the head of the team I could understand that). Im pretty sure that it was intended to describe that it was a power team - or it could have been construed either way.

                            And I'm pretty sure Jane Lynch didn't make up the designations. The production team gave them to her. This stuff, like all reality TV, is all scripted.

                            1. re: chicgail

                              And designations are in the eye of the beholder. Jane Lynch (or at least her Glee character, as I understand the show) prefers the Beast, so it's not an insult coming from her.

                        2. The show is getting nastier and nastier - apparently by design. The producers must think it will garnet them an audience.

                          For me it's just the opposite.

                          I have no interest in watching people be "sabotaged" or insulted or demeaned. But then I don't watch any of the "Real Housewives" of anywhere and it apparently has an audience. Someone must like it.

                          I'm done.

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                          1. re: chicgail

                            If it continues down this road, I suspect I won't be watching next season.

                            1. re: LindaWhit

                              I'm having a pretty hard time finishing up this season and we're only a few episodes in...

                              1. re: DiningDiva

                                Me, too. I have to be out of other stuff on TiVo before I watch it now. Used to be so eager to see it every week.

                          2. I completely agree that the sabotage component of this season is making what was always a fairly antagonistic show unnecessarily mean.

                            In discussion of the Australian Masterchef this season - things have felt less nice/chummy than they did in the previous season, and personally I suspect that part of it has to do with some changes in how the challenges have been designed. There is just no way to respond to the sabotage element with much grace. I think that Luca tried as much as possible by saying that it was because Jordan didn't go into the pressure test and then warmly praised his cupcakes. But there's no way to get out of it and not be "mean" to someone.

                            1. It was nice to see Lynn finally get a little air time. Also nice to see Natasha and Jessie put their hair back while they cooked. I hate all that long hair flying around over the food.

                              1. I have been watching Master Chef Korea and loved every episode.

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                                1. re: Monica

                                  I am just starting to watch that.

                                  Master Chef Korea CELEBRITY!!

                                    1. re: Monica

                                      Stupid question: Is it available subtitled?

                                      1. re: piccola

                                        I can only find it subtitled in Korean... Which I can't read. I haven't found it subtitled in English like Korean soap operas are (I am currently enjoying "My girlfriend is a 9 tailed fox.")

                                        I can understand a little bit of what they are saying, but not much.

                                        It's entertaining!

                                        1. re: C. Hamster


                                          I Googled. Man I want to check that out but there are already way too many time-sinks in my life.

                                          1. re: C. Hamster

                                            Ah, OK. I think I'll pass then - I like knowing what people are saying.

                                          2. re: piccola

                                            Even with English subtitle, I don't think it will be as entertaining if you are not a native speaker. There are some stuff that can't never be translated into English and most of the time, that's the funniest and most entertaining part. One of the judges has a major Southern accent (Busan accent) and things she says are just hilarious and blunt and just can't be translated.

                                              1. re: C. Hamster

                                                I think both female judges have glasses on, no? The one who is skinnier and supposely from Vienna is pretty funny.

                                        2. Can't believe some of the hatred being shown to Krissi on twitter. Someone wishing her kid gets AIDS? WTF people? It's just a show and edited to create the reality that the producers want you to see. @MC4Krissi

                                          1. I personally thought it was cool how giddy Krissy got around Lydia. She's really not that bad, fairly typical South Philly type. I'd eat at her house any time.

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                                            1. re: saeyedoc

                                              In Kathy's exit interview she talks about how she thinks Krissi is a really good person.

                                              1. re: Firegoat

                                                I like Krissi. I think she's smart, says what she means and she's also playing it for air time.

                                              2. re: saeyedoc

                                                But then you'd have to spend time with her. UGH ...

                                                1. re: saeyedoc

                                                  I'm a Philly person and Krissi represents just about everything I hate of the "South Philly" stereotype at this point.

                                                  1. re: sockii

                                                    Forgive my ignorance, but can you expand on that "South Phlly stereotype?" I get her accent, but not familiar with the rest of the persona. She's just doesn't come across with any class, IMHO.

                                                    1. re: pine time

                                                      "just doesn't come across with any class" - that's pretty much it, really.

                                                      A "Yo, Philly!" big-mouthed arrogant, rude, close-minded, Italian-American stereotype.

                                                      1. re: sockii

                                                        You make those sound like bad things! ;-)

                                                        1. re: sockii

                                                          Once before, I wrote something like "would she be proud to have her son watch her antics?" and I've decided that she wouldn't care just how graceless her behavior is. Competitiveness is one thing, Machiavellian actions are another. Poor son.

                                                          1. re: pine time

                                                            spotted dogs have spotted pups.. he more than likely has seen mom behave like this at ball games and pinewood derby his whole life.

                                                            1. re: girloftheworld

                                                              I guess you've never been to South Philly, almost everyone is like that.

                                                  2. I just found Master Chef UK this week! What a breath of fresh air! Cooking competition, humility and civility altogether.

                                                    When I watched MCUS last night I felt embarrassed and dirty. This show started out so much lighter and more fun. I guess theatrics and rudeness are more interesting than watching skilled cooks showcase and improve their talent. Pity.

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                                                    1. re: zillabreeze

                                                      Please tell us - WHERE did you find MC-UK?

                                                      1. re: LindaWhit

                                                        You tube. But it's spotty.

                                                        You can also watch the entire first season of Top Chef Canada and the first 5 episodes of season 2 and 3.

                                                        That's where I watch Master Chef Korea CELEBRITY!!!! Which is helpfully subtitled.... In Korean. Not!

                                                        1. re: C. Hamster

                                                          Just started watching Master Chef UK. Awesome! The judges are so intelligent and respectful of the contestants, and the contestants are very skillful.

                                                        2. re: LindaWhit

                                                          It is on Directv on BBC USA we've watched 14 or so episodes

                                                      2. And next week we get blindfolded chefs. Why can't they just let them cook.

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                                                        1. re: Firegoat

                                                          Because it's FOX. This is a huge show for them.
                                                          By example
                                                          Americas got talent pulls a 9 Share and around 11.75 Mill viewers other than the voice one of the biggest reality shows.

                                                          Masterchef had an 8 share on its night with 5.4 million (which for fox is huge) they were against the Stanley cup which beat them slightly with a 9 share and 6.4 million viewers.

                                                          Fox has a formula for all the reality shows. You have all the personalities covered, create drama, yell, done.

                                                          This show is as much about cooking as Grey's Anatomy is about what its like to work in a hospital.

                                                          Go to You tube and watch some UK or AU Masterchef you won't recognize the show.

                                                          1. re: chris2269

                                                            Oh i've watched some AU Masterchef and I agree with you definitely a different dynamic. They all seemed to like each other. However, the one thing that really stood out to me on one of the episodes I watched was when they had to make a special vanilla cake. There must have been 10 solid minutes of them telling the competitors how difficult it was. Okay. I get it. It's difficult. Move on.

                                                        2. I think it would be fun if they had some Jell-O brand lemon pie filling in the "pantry" to see if someone took it.

                                                          1. So during the pie challenge were they using food coloring? I'm not sure where they got that deep yellow color.

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                                                            1. re: Firegoat

                                                              Deep yellow ...

                                                              And most if them made LIME pie

                                                              1. re: C. Hamster

                                                                Key limes and their juice are yellow when ripe.

                                                                It cracks me up whenever I see a green key lime pie.

                                                                1. re: INDIANRIVERFL

                                                                  And IIRC, several of them were using a combination of key limes and Persian limes.

                                                                  And yeah, the green coloring is a dead giveaway. :-)

                                                                  1. re: LindaWhit

                                                                    I think one used a combo and the others used only persian but I dont really recall ....

                                                                    1. re: LindaWhit

                                                                      Key lime isn't neon yellow, it's kind of a paler, muddy yellow.

                                                                      Those were Jello-o pudding yellow.

                                                                      Very common for recipes to call for green food coloring for key lime; I hate that.

                                                                      1. re: mcf

                                                                        No, I know what key lime pies look like when properly made. I don't recall a neon yellow, however. Would have to again see pics of what was brought up for judging.

                                                                        1. re: LindaWhit

                                                                          I recall bright yellow on the example they brought out as ideal.

                                                                          1. re: LindaWhit

                                                                            I shudder to think of the thickening agent if they used persian limes. Gelatin? Corn starch?

                                                                              1. re: INDIANRIVERFL

                                                                                corn starch

                                                                                thats what Bimi thought he was using when he added five pounds of cream of tarter to his curd,

                                                                        2. re: INDIANRIVERFL

                                                                          Ditto. If I see a key lime pie that is green, I pass.

                                                                    2. Yeah, I'm done with Krissy. She's turned into someone more evil than Joe. And I really REALLY disliked that if it wasn't what Lidia would have made, i.e., specifically Italian or that someone would use/make in Italy, it was automatically dismissed before tasting.

                                                                      The earlier Glee episode was interesting in that Krissy was blaming Bime for them losing the team challenge due to raw chicken, BUT it was Bime's chicken which got the MOST votes for their entire team.

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                                                                      1. re: LindaWhit

                                                                        Actually the Glee episode was the second one last night, after the episode with Lidia.

                                                                        But I agree that Krissi is just turning out to be a hateful and horrible "character" all around. As a Philly girl myself, I didn't like her at the start because she seemed to represent everything stereotypical about the South Philly Italian community. I was starting to warm up to her but last night just turned me off completely. The only ones I really like at all at this point are Luca and James.

                                                                        1. re: sockii

                                                                          Ahh, that's right (episode order). And I still like Jessie and Jordan.

                                                                      2. I also dislike the portrayal of Krissi. What an ugly personality.

                                                                        I'm becoming increasingly frustrated that cooking shows have become entirely too competitive and adversarial. I miss the days when cooking shows actually taught you how to cook.

                                                                        Compared to a few seasons ago, this is quickly becoming MC Hell's Kitchen style. I'm just waiting for Joe to start calling them donkeys

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                                                                        1. re: daeira

                                                                          Well, technically, this isn't a "cooking show". Being a reality competition show, it's not really there to teach us anything, unless it's by accident, I guess. :-)

                                                                        2. it didnt show here for some reason :(

                                                                          1. There is probably less overall animosity this season (showing) than last season, and fewer hateable players. If anything these gameplay moves like taking the mixer away, picking safe people, and whatever, seem to have built up camaraderie with most of the players (given that the people wronged by the choices say in their interviews "It was good game play" and not IMMA CUT YOU BEOTCH" more often than not).

                                                                            Is Bri the one that people thought was a Monte wannabe? Because we need to talk.

                                                                            Lynn is HUGE now because the first we see of him in this season he's a total disaster. It's him and Jessie at this point for me.

                                                                            1. I totally agree. I fully expect that by the end of the season, the MC logo at the beginning of the show, will go up in flames, like they do with Hell's kitchen. Krissy laughing her way through the lemon (but not lemon) meringue pie challenge was a show of poor sportsmanship and just lack of class. I thought it was disgusting. This show has completely taken a nosedive and I for one am sad. I also agree that the whole sabotage element is a needless gimmick to add drama. Can we not just have one, simple, food/cook oriented cooking competition????? Ugh.

                                                                              1. I really didn't understand why Krissy was so hell bent to get Bime sent home.

                                                                                Her ideas on sabotage were strange.

                                                                                First off Bime made the chicken which get the highest score. She could have saved him and made an alley out of him plus knowing that Bime hasn't appeared to be the strongest chef, she could have kept him around knowing she could beat him.

                                                                                She should have sent Natasha in, because it's likely Natasha will not save her if it comes down to that.

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                                                                                  1. re: chicgail

                                                                                    I think that whole "this worked out just the way I wanted to" was exactly what she would have said no matter what happened. She seems to like seeing herself as the evil dictator.

                                                                                1. It appears that for now Master Chef isn't commenting on whether the Paula Deen episode will be cut or re-edited. (This is the episode that already appeared in the opening credits of the first 3 episodes and spoiled who the final five chefs will be)

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                                                                                  1. re: Firegoat

                                                                                    Let's see....MC is on the Fox network which is not exactly a bastion of political correctness or liberal thinking. My guess is, the episode will appear as is with little to no further editing. Most likely by the time the episode airs people will have moved on to the next scandal and Paula will be just a blip on the litter road of celebrities behaving badly

                                                                                  2. Now team leaders have to pause and wonder whether it's better for them to win or lose the challenge. Bime made great fried chicken and is out. It's no longer about cooking and how well you do in the challenges, it's about conniving. Big Brother v2.

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                                                                                    1. re: chowser

                                                                                      I hate MC this year. It's about gimmicks, like that awful year of Top Chef with all the stupid bicycle, shooting, non food and cooking crap.

                                                                                      Add outright disgusting abuse, way past snark, of a contestant by Joe and the bullying to get Howard to take off his apron and this show should roll over and die.

                                                                                    2. How many think that Joe was a large part of ruining this show?

                                                                                      I certainly do.

                                                                                      but of course it is all pre planned and scripted so can't really blame anyone who is involved, they gave their consent by signing on

                                                                                      1. Benn Starr's blog is awesome:

                                                                                        "Now it’s pressure test time, and as usual, the producers are turning MasterChef into The Hunger Games…making it about strategy rather than cooking."


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                                                                                        1. re: C. Hamster

                                                                                          I have enjoyed his blog as well as Marie's. Makes you realize how Krissi is being played when she's a single mom that sleeps on her couch in her one room apartment so her kid can have his own room. Also interesting that those shots of (was it Ryan? whatever guy gave Christina Ha the crab) were all juxtapositioned in just for drama

                                                                                          1. re: Firegoat

                                                                                            I'm just tired of being a parent as being an excuse for any kind of behavior. Bime is a father of three, if I'm not mistaken, who never seemed to make an issue of it. Every season there has to be someone we're supposed to sympathize with because they're "doing everything for their kid(s)". Well, some of us would do anything to even be able to have kids, so she doesn't win a lot of sympathy points from me at this point for using her kid as an excuse for everything.

                                                                                        2. I just have to day that Ben Starr's blog (which I posted above) is quite an exposé of the show's editing.

                                                                                          Chrissy not be that much of a turd. Just portrayed that way in a brain headed attempt to stoke our interest, rather than totally repel us.

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                                                                                          1. re: C. Hamster

                                                                                            EXCEPT....Chrissie does say the things she does. She does act the way she does. If she's not so much of a turd, why say and/or act the way she does?

                                                                                            1. re: LindaWhit

                                                                                              I am personally inclined to believe that she's a giant turd.

                                                                                              But Ben's blog explanation might give her reprieve about her despicable behavior toward Bime.

                                                                                              But maybe not. She could just be a first class loudmouth asshole.

                                                                                              1. re: LindaWhit

                                                                                                That's true. Marie's blog did talk about how the producers kept baiting her in talking heads to try to go on and on about her IQ and how she kept trying to toss in something odd so they couldn't use it against her in a TH later had she gone through to the next round. Between that and Ben's blog about how the whole evil chuckling over the live crab event didn't happen the way it was portrayed I'll give the lady some reasonable doubt here. Sure is making the American Baking Competition look more and more like a better choice to watch on Wednesday nights even if the judges are doing their own thing.

                                                                                                1. re: LindaWhit

                                                                                                  LindaWhit you may be more right than I am. Guess I tried to give her the benefit of the doubt. Here's an interview with a spastic host with Howard and Savannah.

                                                                                                  1. re: Firegoat

                                                                                                    "Spastic" is putting it mildly! And Ashlee loves Joe B and Chrissie? Oy.

                                                                                                    BUT....looks like a turd is a turd is a turd. I know Howard probably has no love lost for Chrissie, but Savannah pretty much agrees with him in that interview.

                                                                                              2. I just googled her. I can't believe how spiteful she is and in particular against a 22 year old. Krissy has a kid who's going into his teens and I think she's setting a terrible example. I am also watching masterchef Australia. I get the sense that the chefs aren't necessarily as talented, but the australian version is all about the food. The chefs cheer each other on without making the show boring because they want to win or lose based on food not hatred of another competitor...