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Worldwide Diner Jun 19, 2013 08:25 PM

No sure if there's been an uglier (personality wise) person than Krissy on MC. She's profane, hypocritical, and a bully.

I don't like the sabotage injected in these two episodes. It's one thing to give winners immunity, but to give winners the opportunity to sabotage their strongest competitors isn't consistent with finding the "best" home cook.

  1. DiningDiva Jun 19, 2013 08:57 PM

    And neither is Joe B completely ripping into a contestant going to find the best home cook or encourage anyone to even try. Howard may have screwed up pasta, but Joe was over the line with him.

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    1. re: DiningDiva
      Worldwide Diner Jun 20, 2013 04:36 AM

      Douchiness seems to be an inherited trait in Joe's family.

      1. re: Worldwide Diner
        madeliner Jun 20, 2013 02:52 PM

        is lydia like that too?

        1. re: madeliner
          mcf Jun 23, 2013 09:30 AM

          If you think slavery is douchy, yeah.

          1. re: mcf
            madeliner Jun 23, 2013 01:35 PM

            Was that ever proven? and ya it is douchy

            1. re: madeliner
              mcf Jun 23, 2013 02:10 PM

              Have you ever heard a denial from Lidia, or another peep from the Italian accuser?

              Lidia likely did the type of crisis management that Paula Deen failed to. And FAST. That news cycle was over almost as soon as it started.

      2. re: DiningDiva
        chefhound Jun 20, 2013 09:17 AM

        I was really annoyed with how the judges were putting down creativity in the pasta challenge. Granted, Howard's pasta might have tasted bad (also the guy with the maple) but they seemed to reject both just because it wasn't proper Italian.

        I have come across this attitude with some Italian people who think Italian food is sacred and can't be personalized. So annoying. Who cares if it tastes good. They should be given some acknowledgement for creativity.

        I have been a stickler in the past about certain dishes tasting the way they are supposed to. However, sometimes creativity makes a dish better. I once had Korean rice cakes with melted cheese on top. This is not traditional; it was probably created by Korean college students adapting their food to the college environment. It's delicious!

        They did not say the contestants had to make the pasta Lidia made. So they were free to make whatever filling and sauce they wanted. If it didn't taste good then fine, but they seemed to be slamming the contestants' gall at daring to deviate from accepted Italian pasta fillings and sauce.

        Also, I was disappointed that we didn't see them tasting Luca's dish. I figured he would turn out a winning pasta.

        1. re: chefhound
          Firegoat Jun 20, 2013 09:27 AM

          I also dislike it when they are tasting everyone's dishes and they deliberately don't show some. I understand they have a set amount of time.... but cut some of the repeats after each commercial or something.

          1. re: chefhound
            DiningDiva Jun 20, 2013 09:28 AM

            I agree...Howard's dish may have not been all that great, and, he hasn't been the strongest of competitors, but what right does that give Joe to absolutely destroy him in front of the other contestants and in front of a TV audience of several million. Howard is from San Diego, as am I, (no I don't know him) and I can tell you there is a huge amount of cross border flavor melding going on right now. Howards, mistake was in not aggressively playing to the Baja Med theme. The San Diego/Northern Baja area has a climate very much like Italy and produces many of the same products, how the chefs on both sides of the border have chosen to work with them is certainly different than Italy and the rest of the Mediterranean for that matter. There has been for some time a strong Italian influence in Tijuana where they openly combined the Italian with the Mexican; they aren't so concerned about "tradition", Mexican or Italian :-). But Howard is also right when he says that San Diego does not have a strong Italian food community. He was on the right track but executed poorly. There was no need to publicly eviserate him.

            I, too, thought Luca would have nailed this challenge.

            1. re: DiningDiva
              Firegoat Jun 20, 2013 09:31 AM

              Maybe they figured they spent too much time on luca the past two episodes... but then again why build up a character so much then basically ignore him completely? I would think it would be interesting to see someone that nearly went home try to bounce back and do it in an Italian challenge. But, I'm not a TV producer.

              1. re: DiningDiva
                DGresh Jun 20, 2013 02:46 PM

                I also thought the treatment of Howard was obnoxious. In other cooking competition venues, it's all about what you personally bring to the dish, and that's what he was doing. I don't think he was being disrespectful of italian food; he was putting his spin on it. Now maybe it didn't taste good, but they made him out to be a lazy, self-indulgent narcissist (and even used that word). That is way over the line.

                1. re: DGresh
                  Firegoat Jun 22, 2013 10:24 AM

                  I think that so far it is interesting that I can't find a post elimination interview from Howard online, but there is one from Bime, Kathy etc. I know that the contestants really have their hands tied by the contracts they sign. Makes me wonder if there will ever be one.

                2. re: DiningDiva
                  ennuisans Jun 21, 2013 01:13 AM

                  As I recall, Joe vouched for Howard in the trials. So there would be that.

                3. re: chefhound
                  cresyd Jun 20, 2013 10:23 AM

                  Completely agree. So much of the history of food has been with mixing ingredients and techniques - tomatoes aren't native to Italy, and now they're a lovely part of the cuisine.

                  Yes there's a point to mastering the basics and understanding the basics - but sometimes messing with tradition, mixing and matching creates great new flavors and ideas.

                  Now I get that if you're cooking for Joe, that trying to convince him that linguine with clam sauce topped with parmesan is a good idea probably won't get you far. But the way he behaved by someone's attempt at bringing different ingredients together really gives the notion of sticking to the classics a bad name.

                  1. re: cresyd
                    Firegoat Jun 20, 2013 10:28 AM

                    I thought even Gordon looked a little taken aback at Joe's crazy ass rant.

                    1. re: Firegoat
                      DGresh Jun 20, 2013 02:47 PM

                      but Gordon was the one who did that whole "act like a man and give up your apron" thing, which I also thought was mean-spirited.

                      1. re: DGresh
                        Firegoat Jun 20, 2013 02:50 PM

                        What if Lynn whipped off his apron? I'm guessing there was a producer in the background pointing to Howard so they knew they meant him?

                        1. re: Firegoat
                          ennuisans Jun 21, 2013 01:16 AM

                          The "take off your jacket, you know who you are" has been done before, and is probably a result of producer interviews beforehand. Lynn feels good, Howard feels bad, you're voting Howard anyway...

                  2. re: chefhound
                    ritabwh Jun 21, 2013 07:42 PM

                    i think this kind of food is called "fusion" :-))

                    1. re: ritabwh
                      girloftheworld Jun 24, 2013 10:01 AM

                      that is what we call it when we have several take away countainers in the fridge on Sunday afternoon and make lunch out them... "fusion" lunch..

                    2. re: chefhound
                      piccola Jun 22, 2013 02:49 PM

                      Funny thing about that purist attitude: I find it's more common among people outside of Italy. Most of my relatives and friends who are still in the "old country" improvise all the time -- they have methods and recipes they prefer, but they're not sticklers. Over here, nostalgia makes people stick to traditions that may not even exist in Italy anymore. (For example, I know several Italians here who insist on chopping everything by hand because it's how their mothers did it; meanwhile, my relatives in Italy all use mini food processors because it saves time.)

                      1. re: piccola
                        DGresh Jun 23, 2013 03:03 AM

                        interesting. One of the worst offenders is Marcella Hazan in my opinion. Though I love and appreciate her recipes greatly, there's an undercurrent of "of course, you will never be able to make it quite as well if you have to use American basil, or non-Mediterranean fish, or god-forbid, if you use a food processor".

                        1. re: piccola
                          chicgail Jun 23, 2013 07:07 AM

                          The whole point of great Italian food is to utilize the best, fresh available ingredients. Why would it be a problem for someone who used the different fresh ingredients they had available?

                          1. re: chicgail
                            piccola Jun 23, 2013 09:20 AM

                            Exactly. But you know how it is - some people have very rigid views about food. They don't realize that cooking naturally evolves with time.

                            I should add that I'm all for classic recipes. And that while it's fine to experiment with recipes, don't call them by the same name or you'll justifiably get backlash (for example, carpaccio can't be cooked or it's no longer a carpaccio). But go ahead and play around.

                            1. re: piccola
                              ennuisans Jun 23, 2013 04:15 PM

                              My philosophy has become that "authenticity" has more to do with the technique than the ingredients. Your carpaccio, for instance. Hammered and raw, yes, fried no.

                              On the other hand, you can't fry ham and call it a fried egg, but then if I serve biscuits with white or brown gravy, giblet or sausage, it's still biscuits and gravy and no one cares what region it came from.

                              If a Thai family moves to Texas and substitutes jalapenos for their traditional chilies, as far as I'm concerned they are still Thai recipes, not Tex-Mex.

                              1. re: ennuisans
                                piccola Jun 23, 2013 04:28 PM

                                That's pretty much how I see things, too.

                    3. Cheese Boy Jun 19, 2013 09:22 PM

                      Vigliacca. If she had any brass ones, she would have stayed in and baked a meringue pie. Bime did mess up in a big way though, and I think he did deserve to go home. Krissi is soon gonna realize just how "ugly" she actually is, drop some weight, and then go join the likes of beasts like Lisa Lampanelli.

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                        madeliner Jun 19, 2013 09:51 PM

                        Beauty and the beast?


                        if these people subject themselves to that sort of nonsense they deserve what they do or don't get

                        Joe is just an asshole - it's fun to watch him be that tho

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                        1. re: madeliner
                          Firegoat Jun 20, 2013 06:50 AM

                          That seemed incredibly tacky. Krissi (at least on camera) appeared to take it in good humor. I'm not sure I would have reacted as well to being called a beast on TV. Not sure what the point of having team captains is if they don't get to pick their teams.

                          1. re: Firegoat
                            chicgail Jun 20, 2013 08:45 AM

                            Oddly, I didn't hear the designation "beast" as being synonymous with ugly (although with Krissi at the head of the team I could understand that). Im pretty sure that it was intended to describe that it was a power team - or it could have been construed either way.

                            And I'm pretty sure Jane Lynch didn't make up the designations. The production team gave them to her. This stuff, like all reality TV, is all scripted.

                            1. re: chicgail
                              ennuisans Jun 21, 2013 01:18 AM

                              And designations are in the eye of the beholder. Jane Lynch (or at least her Glee character, as I understand the show) prefers the Beast, so it's not an insult coming from her.

                        2. chicgail Jun 20, 2013 02:44 AM

                          The show is getting nastier and nastier - apparently by design. The producers must think it will garnet them an audience.

                          For me it's just the opposite.

                          I have no interest in watching people be "sabotaged" or insulted or demeaned. But then I don't watch any of the "Real Housewives" of anywhere and it apparently has an audience. Someone must like it.

                          I'm done.

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                          1. re: chicgail
                            LindaWhit Jun 20, 2013 04:11 PM

                            If it continues down this road, I suspect I won't be watching next season.

                            1. re: LindaWhit
                              DiningDiva Jun 20, 2013 04:43 PM

                              I'm having a pretty hard time finishing up this season and we're only a few episodes in...

                              1. re: DiningDiva
                                mcf Jun 23, 2013 09:34 AM

                                Me, too. I have to be out of other stuff on TiVo before I watch it now. Used to be so eager to see it every week.

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                            cresyd Jun 20, 2013 03:05 AM

                            I completely agree that the sabotage component of this season is making what was always a fairly antagonistic show unnecessarily mean.

                            In discussion of the Australian Masterchef this season - things have felt less nice/chummy than they did in the previous season, and personally I suspect that part of it has to do with some changes in how the challenges have been designed. There is just no way to respond to the sabotage element with much grace. I think that Luca tried as much as possible by saying that it was because Jordan didn't go into the pressure test and then warmly praised his cupcakes. But there's no way to get out of it and not be "mean" to someone.

                            1. Firegoat Jun 20, 2013 06:04 AM

                              It was nice to see Lynn finally get a little air time. Also nice to see Natasha and Jessie put their hair back while they cooked. I hate all that long hair flying around over the food.

                              1. Monica Jun 20, 2013 07:48 AM

                                I have been watching Master Chef Korea and loved every episode.

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                                  C. Hamster Jun 20, 2013 01:11 PM

                                  I am just starting to watch that.

                                  Master Chef Korea CELEBRITY!!

                                  1. re: Monica
                                    Cheese Boy Jun 20, 2013 08:25 PM

                                    Cool ... go Psy go !!

                                    1. re: Monica
                                      piccola Jun 22, 2013 02:45 PM

                                      Stupid question: Is it available subtitled?

                                      1. re: piccola
                                        C. Hamster Jun 23, 2013 12:28 PM

                                        I can only find it subtitled in Korean... Which I can't read. I haven't found it subtitled in English like Korean soap operas are (I am currently enjoying "My girlfriend is a 9 tailed fox.")

                                        I can understand a little bit of what they are saying, but not much.

                                        It's entertaining!

                                        1. re: C. Hamster
                                          ennuisans Jun 23, 2013 04:20 PM


                                          I Googled. Man I want to check that out but there are already way too many time-sinks in my life.

                                          1. re: C. Hamster
                                            piccola Jun 23, 2013 04:29 PM

                                            Ah, OK. I think I'll pass then - I like knowing what people are saying.

                                          2. re: piccola
                                            Monica Jun 24, 2013 07:41 AM

                                            Even with English subtitle, I don't think it will be as entertaining if you are not a native speaker. There are some stuff that can't never be translated into English and most of the time, that's the funniest and most entertaining part. One of the judges has a major Southern accent (Busan accent) and things she says are just hilarious and blunt and just can't be translated.

                                            1. re: Monica
                                              C. Hamster Jun 24, 2013 07:47 AM

                                              The judge with the glasses?

                                              1. re: C. Hamster
                                                Monica Jun 24, 2013 07:52 AM

                                                I think both female judges have glasses on, no? The one who is skinnier and supposely from Vienna is pretty funny.

                                        2. Firegoat Jun 20, 2013 07:51 AM

                                          Can't believe some of the hatred being shown to Krissi on twitter. Someone wishing her kid gets AIDS? WTF people? It's just a show and edited to create the reality that the producers want you to see. @MC4Krissi

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                                            saeyedoc Jun 20, 2013 08:22 AM

                                            I personally thought it was cool how giddy Krissy got around Lydia. She's really not that bad, fairly typical South Philly type. I'd eat at her house any time.

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                                            1. re: saeyedoc
                                              Firegoat Jun 20, 2013 08:26 AM

                                              In Kathy's exit interview she talks about how she thinks Krissi is a really good person.

                                              1. re: Firegoat
                                                mcf Jun 23, 2013 09:36 AM

                                                I like Krissi. I think she's smart, says what she means and she's also playing it for air time.

                                              2. re: saeyedoc
                                                C. Hamster Jun 20, 2013 01:13 PM

                                                But then you'd have to spend time with her. UGH ...

                                                1. re: saeyedoc
                                                  sockii Jun 20, 2013 03:26 PM

                                                  I'm a Philly person and Krissi represents just about everything I hate of the "South Philly" stereotype at this point.

                                                  1. re: sockii
                                                    pine time Jun 21, 2013 01:05 PM

                                                    Forgive my ignorance, but can you expand on that "South Phlly stereotype?" I get her accent, but not familiar with the rest of the persona. She's just doesn't come across with any class, IMHO.

                                                    1. re: pine time
                                                      sockii Jun 24, 2013 09:47 AM

                                                      "just doesn't come across with any class" - that's pretty much it, really.

                                                      A "Yo, Philly!" big-mouthed arrogant, rude, close-minded, Italian-American stereotype.

                                                      1. re: sockii
                                                        mcf Jun 24, 2013 09:49 AM

                                                        You make those sound like bad things! ;-)

                                                        1. re: sockii
                                                          pine time Jun 24, 2013 01:50 PM

                                                          Once before, I wrote something like "would she be proud to have her son watch her antics?" and I've decided that she wouldn't care just how graceless her behavior is. Competitiveness is one thing, Machiavellian actions are another. Poor son.

                                                          1. re: pine time
                                                            girloftheworld Jun 24, 2013 02:12 PM

                                                            spotted dogs have spotted pups.. he more than likely has seen mom behave like this at ball games and pinewood derby his whole life.

                                                            1. re: girloftheworld
                                                              saeyedoc Jun 24, 2013 02:29 PM

                                                              I guess you've never been to South Philly, almost everyone is like that.

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                                                    zillabreeze Jun 20, 2013 08:48 AM

                                                    I just found Master Chef UK this week! What a breath of fresh air! Cooking competition, humility and civility altogether.

                                                    When I watched MCUS last night I felt embarrassed and dirty. This show started out so much lighter and more fun. I guess theatrics and rudeness are more interesting than watching skilled cooks showcase and improve their talent. Pity.

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                                                      LindaWhit Jun 20, 2013 04:12 PM

                                                      Please tell us - WHERE did you find MC-UK?

                                                      1. re: LindaWhit
                                                        C. Hamster Jun 20, 2013 06:45 PM

                                                        You tube. But it's spotty.

                                                        You can also watch the entire first season of Top Chef Canada and the first 5 episodes of season 2 and 3.

                                                        That's where I watch Master Chef Korea CELEBRITY!!!! Which is helpfully subtitled.... In Korean. Not!

                                                        1. re: C. Hamster
                                                          DGresh Aug 13, 2013 10:49 AM

                                                          Just started watching Master Chef UK. Awesome! The judges are so intelligent and respectful of the contestants, and the contestants are very skillful.

                                                        2. re: LindaWhit
                                                          pickychicky1979 Jun 22, 2013 04:08 PM

                                                          It is on Directv on BBC USA we've watched 14 or so episodes

                                                      2. Firegoat Jun 20, 2013 08:50 AM

                                                        And next week we get blindfolded chefs. Why can't they just let them cook.

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                                                        1. re: Firegoat
                                                          chris2269 Jun 20, 2013 09:39 AM

                                                          Because it's FOX. This is a huge show for them.
                                                          By example
                                                          Americas got talent pulls a 9 Share and around 11.75 Mill viewers other than the voice one of the biggest reality shows.

                                                          Masterchef had an 8 share on its night with 5.4 million (which for fox is huge) they were against the Stanley cup which beat them slightly with a 9 share and 6.4 million viewers.

                                                          Fox has a formula for all the reality shows. You have all the personalities covered, create drama, yell, done.

                                                          This show is as much about cooking as Grey's Anatomy is about what its like to work in a hospital.

                                                          Go to You tube and watch some UK or AU Masterchef you won't recognize the show.

                                                          1. re: chris2269
                                                            Firegoat Jun 20, 2013 09:42 AM

                                                            Oh i've watched some AU Masterchef and I agree with you definitely a different dynamic. They all seemed to like each other. However, the one thing that really stood out to me on one of the episodes I watched was when they had to make a special vanilla cake. There must have been 10 solid minutes of them telling the competitors how difficult it was. Okay. I get it. It's difficult. Move on.

                                                        2. Firegoat Jun 20, 2013 11:06 AM

                                                          I think it would be fun if they had some Jell-O brand lemon pie filling in the "pantry" to see if someone took it.

                                                          1. Firegoat Jun 20, 2013 03:57 PM

                                                            So during the pie challenge were they using food coloring? I'm not sure where they got that deep yellow color.

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                                                            1. re: Firegoat
                                                              C. Hamster Jun 24, 2013 03:45 AM

                                                              Deep yellow ...

                                                              And most if them made LIME pie

                                                              1. re: C. Hamster
                                                                INDIANRIVERFL Jun 24, 2013 10:27 AM

                                                                Key limes and their juice are yellow when ripe.

                                                                It cracks me up whenever I see a green key lime pie.

                                                                1. re: INDIANRIVERFL
                                                                  LindaWhit Jun 24, 2013 10:32 AM

                                                                  And IIRC, several of them were using a combination of key limes and Persian limes.

                                                                  And yeah, the green coloring is a dead giveaway. :-)

                                                                  1. re: LindaWhit
                                                                    C. Hamster Jun 24, 2013 10:44 AM

                                                                    I think one used a combo and the others used only persian but I dont really recall ....

                                                                    1. re: LindaWhit
                                                                      mcf Jun 24, 2013 10:58 AM

                                                                      Key lime isn't neon yellow, it's kind of a paler, muddy yellow.

                                                                      Those were Jello-o pudding yellow.

                                                                      Very common for recipes to call for green food coloring for key lime; I hate that.

                                                                      1. re: mcf
                                                                        LindaWhit Jun 24, 2013 01:04 PM

                                                                        No, I know what key lime pies look like when properly made. I don't recall a neon yellow, however. Would have to again see pics of what was brought up for judging.

                                                                        1. re: LindaWhit
                                                                          mcf Jun 24, 2013 01:13 PM

                                                                          I recall bright yellow on the example they brought out as ideal.

                                                                          1. re: LindaWhit
                                                                            INDIANRIVERFL Jun 24, 2013 01:13 PM

                                                                            I shudder to think of the thickening agent if they used persian limes. Gelatin? Corn starch?

                                                                            1. re: INDIANRIVERFL
                                                                              girloftheworld Jun 24, 2013 01:18 PM


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                                                                                C. Hamster Jun 24, 2013 01:30 PM

                                                                                corn starch

                                                                                thats what Bimi thought he was using when he added five pounds of cream of tarter to his curd,

                                                                        2. re: INDIANRIVERFL
                                                                          melpy Jun 24, 2013 04:46 PM

                                                                          Ditto. If I see a key lime pie that is green, I pass.

                                                                    2. LindaWhit Jun 20, 2013 04:06 PM

                                                                      Yeah, I'm done with Krissy. She's turned into someone more evil than Joe. And I really REALLY disliked that if it wasn't what Lidia would have made, i.e., specifically Italian or that someone would use/make in Italy, it was automatically dismissed before tasting.

                                                                      The earlier Glee episode was interesting in that Krissy was blaming Bime for them losing the team challenge due to raw chicken, BUT it was Bime's chicken which got the MOST votes for their entire team.

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                                                                      1. re: LindaWhit
                                                                        sockii Jun 20, 2013 05:39 PM

                                                                        Actually the Glee episode was the second one last night, after the episode with Lidia.

                                                                        But I agree that Krissi is just turning out to be a hateful and horrible "character" all around. As a Philly girl myself, I didn't like her at the start because she seemed to represent everything stereotypical about the South Philly Italian community. I was starting to warm up to her but last night just turned me off completely. The only ones I really like at all at this point are Luca and James.

                                                                        1. re: sockii
                                                                          LindaWhit Jun 20, 2013 07:19 PM

                                                                          Ahh, that's right (episode order). And I still like Jessie and Jordan.

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                                                                        daeira Jun 20, 2013 04:42 PM

                                                                        I also dislike the portrayal of Krissi. What an ugly personality.

                                                                        I'm becoming increasingly frustrated that cooking shows have become entirely too competitive and adversarial. I miss the days when cooking shows actually taught you how to cook.

                                                                        Compared to a few seasons ago, this is quickly becoming MC Hell's Kitchen style. I'm just waiting for Joe to start calling them donkeys

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                                                                        1. re: daeira
                                                                          LindaWhit Jun 20, 2013 04:53 PM

                                                                          Well, technically, this isn't a "cooking show". Being a reality competition show, it's not really there to teach us anything, unless it's by accident, I guess. :-)

                                                                        2. girloftheworld Jun 20, 2013 07:45 PM

                                                                          it didnt show here for some reason :(

                                                                          1. ennuisans Jun 21, 2013 01:26 AM

                                                                            There is probably less overall animosity this season (showing) than last season, and fewer hateable players. If anything these gameplay moves like taking the mixer away, picking safe people, and whatever, seem to have built up camaraderie with most of the players (given that the people wronged by the choices say in their interviews "It was good game play" and not IMMA CUT YOU BEOTCH" more often than not).

                                                                            Is Bri the one that people thought was a Monte wannabe? Because we need to talk.

                                                                            Lynn is HUGE now because the first we see of him in this season he's a total disaster. It's him and Jessie at this point for me.

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                                                                              maisonbistro Jun 21, 2013 10:19 AM

                                                                              I totally agree. I fully expect that by the end of the season, the MC logo at the beginning of the show, will go up in flames, like they do with Hell's kitchen. Krissy laughing her way through the lemon (but not lemon) meringue pie challenge was a show of poor sportsmanship and just lack of class. I thought it was disgusting. This show has completely taken a nosedive and I for one am sad. I also agree that the whole sabotage element is a needless gimmick to add drama. Can we not just have one, simple, food/cook oriented cooking competition????? Ugh.

                                                                              1. Sandwich_Sister Jun 22, 2013 04:41 AM

                                                                                I really didn't understand why Krissy was so hell bent to get Bime sent home.

                                                                                Her ideas on sabotage were strange.

                                                                                First off Bime made the chicken which get the highest score. She could have saved him and made an alley out of him plus knowing that Bime hasn't appeared to be the strongest chef, she could have kept him around knowing she could beat him.

                                                                                She should have sent Natasha in, because it's likely Natasha will not save her if it comes down to that.

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                                                                                1. re: Sandwich_Sister
                                                                                  chicgail Jun 22, 2013 05:54 AM

                                                                                  Maybe it's because she's not just mean. She's stupid.

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                                                                                    DGresh Jun 23, 2013 03:04 AM

                                                                                    I think that whole "this worked out just the way I wanted to" was exactly what she would have said no matter what happened. She seems to like seeing herself as the evil dictator.

                                                                                2. Firegoat Jun 22, 2013 10:22 AM

                                                                                  It appears that for now Master Chef isn't commenting on whether the Paula Deen episode will be cut or re-edited. (This is the episode that already appeared in the opening credits of the first 3 episodes and spoiled who the final five chefs will be)

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                                                                                    DiningDiva Jun 22, 2013 02:32 PM

                                                                                    Let's see....MC is on the Fox network which is not exactly a bastion of political correctness or liberal thinking. My guess is, the episode will appear as is with little to no further editing. Most likely by the time the episode airs people will have moved on to the next scandal and Paula will be just a blip on the litter road of celebrities behaving badly

                                                                                  2. chowser Jun 23, 2013 05:24 PM

                                                                                    Now team leaders have to pause and wonder whether it's better for them to win or lose the challenge. Bime made great fried chicken and is out. It's no longer about cooking and how well you do in the challenges, it's about conniving. Big Brother v2.

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                                                                                      mcf Jun 23, 2013 05:43 PM

                                                                                      I hate MC this year. It's about gimmicks, like that awful year of Top Chef with all the stupid bicycle, shooting, non food and cooking crap.

                                                                                      Add outright disgusting abuse, way past snark, of a contestant by Joe and the bullying to get Howard to take off his apron and this show should roll over and die.

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                                                                                      madeliner Jun 23, 2013 10:03 PM

                                                                                      How many think that Joe was a large part of ruining this show?

                                                                                      I certainly do.

                                                                                      but of course it is all pre planned and scripted so can't really blame anyone who is involved, they gave their consent by signing on

                                                                                      1. C. Hamster Jun 24, 2013 07:50 AM

                                                                                        Benn Starr's blog is awesome:

                                                                                        "Now it’s pressure test time, and as usual, the producers are turning MasterChef into The Hunger Games…making it about strategy rather than cooking."


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                                                                                        1. re: C. Hamster
                                                                                          Firegoat Jun 24, 2013 10:14 AM

                                                                                          I have enjoyed his blog as well as Marie's. Makes you realize how Krissi is being played when she's a single mom that sleeps on her couch in her one room apartment so her kid can have his own room. Also interesting that those shots of (was it Ryan? whatever guy gave Christina Ha the crab) were all juxtapositioned in just for drama

                                                                                          1. re: Firegoat
                                                                                            sockii Jun 24, 2013 04:43 PM

                                                                                            I'm just tired of being a parent as being an excuse for any kind of behavior. Bime is a father of three, if I'm not mistaken, who never seemed to make an issue of it. Every season there has to be someone we're supposed to sympathize with because they're "doing everything for their kid(s)". Well, some of us would do anything to even be able to have kids, so she doesn't win a lot of sympathy points from me at this point for using her kid as an excuse for everything.

                                                                                        2. C. Hamster Jun 24, 2013 05:02 PM

                                                                                          I just have to day that Ben Starr's blog (which I posted above) is quite an exposé of the show's editing.

                                                                                          Chrissy not be that much of a turd. Just portrayed that way in a brain headed attempt to stoke our interest, rather than totally repel us.

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                                                                                          1. re: C. Hamster
                                                                                            LindaWhit Jun 24, 2013 05:20 PM

                                                                                            EXCEPT....Chrissie does say the things she does. She does act the way she does. If she's not so much of a turd, why say and/or act the way she does?

                                                                                            1. re: LindaWhit
                                                                                              C. Hamster Jun 24, 2013 07:27 PM

                                                                                              I am personally inclined to believe that she's a giant turd.

                                                                                              But Ben's blog explanation might give her reprieve about her despicable behavior toward Bime.

                                                                                              But maybe not. She could just be a first class loudmouth asshole.

                                                                                              1. re: LindaWhit
                                                                                                Firegoat Jun 25, 2013 07:35 AM

                                                                                                That's true. Marie's blog did talk about how the producers kept baiting her in talking heads to try to go on and on about her IQ and how she kept trying to toss in something odd so they couldn't use it against her in a TH later had she gone through to the next round. Between that and Ben's blog about how the whole evil chuckling over the live crab event didn't happen the way it was portrayed I'll give the lady some reasonable doubt here. Sure is making the American Baking Competition look more and more like a better choice to watch on Wednesday nights even if the judges are doing their own thing.

                                                                                                1. re: LindaWhit
                                                                                                  Firegoat Jun 25, 2013 08:18 AM

                                                                                                  LindaWhit you may be more right than I am. Guess I tried to give her the benefit of the doubt. Here's an interview with a spastic host with Howard and Savannah.

                                                                                                  1. re: Firegoat
                                                                                                    LindaWhit Jun 25, 2013 09:50 AM

                                                                                                    "Spastic" is putting it mildly! And Ashlee loves Joe B and Chrissie? Oy.

                                                                                                    BUT....looks like a turd is a turd is a turd. I know Howard probably has no love lost for Chrissie, but Savannah pretty much agrees with him in that interview.

                                                                                              2. meld_la Jul 25, 2013 02:22 PM

                                                                                                I just googled her. I can't believe how spiteful she is and in particular against a 22 year old. Krissy has a kid who's going into his teens and I think she's setting a terrible example. I am also watching masterchef Australia. I get the sense that the chefs aren't necessarily as talented, but the australian version is all about the food. The chefs cheer each other on without making the show boring because they want to win or lose based on food not hatred of another competitor...

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