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Black Cod/Butterfish Question

bakerboyz Jun 14, 2013 07:04 AM

Thinking of grilling either Black Cod (Butterfish), Chilean Sea Bass or Sea Bass this weekend (if it ever stops raining!!). Looking for a reasonably priced alternative for these fishes other than Captain Marden's or Whole Foods. I am willing to travel to an Asian market if that is a reasonable alternative and they carry these species and they are good quality. While price is important, quality is much more important. Any suggestions?

  1. C. Hamster Jun 14, 2013 04:27 PM

    I'd be suspicious of "black cod" in an Asian market if sold as fillets.

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    1. re: C. Hamster
      digga Jun 14, 2013 05:09 PM

      I'm equally suspicious of seafood in Asian markets. I don't think sustainability is something that is taken under consideration. (And I thought certain Chilean seabass are a definite no-no.)

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      cutipie721 Jun 14, 2013 02:57 PM

      I've seen New Deal Fish Market having black cod for the past few weekends.

      If you're grilling and are looking to buy a significant amount, consider letting the fishmonger know that you'll be buying half a fish with bones and stuff instead of precut filets. They may charge you significantly less per pound. Doesn't hurt to give them a call and ask and maybe have them set it aside for you to pick up.

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      1. re: cutipie721
        Gabatta Jun 14, 2013 03:06 PM

        New Deal won't be more reasonably priced than Marden's of WF per the OP's request.

        1. re: Gabatta
          cutipie721 Jun 14, 2013 03:49 PM

          Hence my suggestion of getting the fish whole and talk to the store first. Some fish I bought from ND last week was at least 2x cheaper per pound as whole. I wonder what the chances are of getting a discount like this from WF.

          1. re: cutipie721
            9lives Jun 14, 2013 04:25 PM

            re buying whole fish vs fillets, this site is helpful...


            I've never seen Black Cod/Butterfish or "Chilean Seabass" in Chinatown seafood markets and it's generally pretty pricey when I do see it at New Deal or elsewhere.

            Sea Bass is a sort of a catchall name for a lot of fish but I've seen small Striped Bass and Black Bass live in the tank in Ctown...and also on ice. That or whole Red Snapper would grill up well. Figure 1 fish p/p.

            I'm carless in downtown and don't get to the big Asian markets outside of town, but Happy Family in CTown is my fave Asian market for fish.

            1. re: 9lives
              cutipie721 Jun 14, 2013 05:29 PM

              Just wanted to add to the site.

              I've filleted a whole sole before and found the number (35%) to be pretty accurate if you only take into account the beautiful and marketable top part of the fish. There's still so much meat left on the frame I continued to slice from the bottom. I got another piece of meat that's half the thickness of the top. Too thin to call it a fillet, but perfectly fine for roll ups. The rest went into the stock pot. Whole sole was 3x cheaper than fillet when I did the evaluation.

              I also noticed that ND is selling fish collars and other odd parts. A grouper cheek is HUGE!

              The value highly depends on how the cook utilizes everything.

              1. re: cutipie721
                9lives Jun 14, 2013 05:48 PM

                Good point.

                Salmon heads are usually thrown away by the markets or sold in bulk as "trash," but there's great meat in the jaw.

                Tuna..some of the best meat is in the jaw or by scraping the "backbone" with a spoon after butchering. Labor intensive and a PITA and not usually done commercially but well worth the effort if you have the whole fish.

                The cheek/jaw of most fish is great eating. I've had grouper, red snapper, tuna, yellowtail and cod.

                Cod is most common here.

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        UnclePH Jun 14, 2013 01:37 PM

        HMart in Burlington has Porgy and Pollock on sale for $1.99/lb.
        I know those are poor subsitutes for Chilean Sea Bass or Black Cod, but it sure is cheap!

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        1. re: UnclePH
          CapeCodGuy Jun 14, 2013 05:55 PM

          Porgy and Pollock might make good bait for catching Bass or Cod!

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