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Favorite uses for homemade Toum? Raw or cooked?

fldhkybnva Jun 14, 2013 03:35 AM

I love Toum and think I am going to give homemade Toum a try this weekend. It's great on traditional style Lebanese dishes but do you have any other favorite uses for it? I've usually been served it as a dip or a sauce, but have you had any success heating it? I thought baked chicken with Toum would be nice and planned to coat the chicken and bake but didn't know if it would do something in particular to the flavors or the emulsion and it would be better to just serve it on the side.

  1. alkapal Jun 14, 2013 05:30 AM

    you can coat the chicken with it, but why not just rub the chicken with oil and garlic? i like to serve toum on the side, and wrap the chicken with toum and beet-turnip pickles in lavash. heavenly.

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      bcc Jun 14, 2013 08:28 AM

      How do you make your beet-turnip pickles?

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        alkapal Jun 15, 2013 03:58 AM

        bcc, here is a recipe: http://www.iraqicookbook.com/iraqi_fo...

        this particular recipe is from an iraqi author, but the pickle is eaten in lebanon, too. i think many other mid-eastern countries use this pickle, as well as other pickled vegetables. i am currently exploring persian cuisine, and like its range of pickles.

         
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          bcc Jun 15, 2013 01:12 PM

          Thanks a lot. I'll be sure to try it, since my other attempts have always seemed to suffer from unwanted fermentation.

    2. hala Jun 14, 2013 05:34 AM

      A few times I had leftovers that I used up in a vinaigrette for salad. Toum gives a less pronounced taste than garlic.

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        HillJ Jun 14, 2013 06:29 AM

        On grilled lamb or beef is our favorite way. We make buckets of toum at home. The blender whip method turns out the best consistency for us. Spread on warm bread toum is amazing. spread on anything really...grilled artichokes comes to mind.

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          youareabunny Jun 14, 2013 01:15 PM

          I actually first discovered CH when I had toum at zankos in LA... My first try wasn't very successful, some sort of garlic and lemon concoction with addition of potato, not to mention I used a chopper that probably wasn't powerful enough.

          Anyway can you share how you do it? I'm guessing minced garlic in blender, salt, oil, and lemon? Do you whip with water to lighten it? I shake up my own lotion with addition of oil and sometimes add water so it's lighter...

          TIA

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            HillJ Jun 14, 2013 02:10 PM

            absolutely! I've never heard of a potato addition. hmm, but in LA you can buy toum on nearly every mom & pop convenience store and they all get it from the same local distributor who uses the follow method but in an industrial machine. So I'm sharing the at home version using a blender.

            http://thefoodblog.com.au/2010/04/fas...

            Read through the entire process (old & new) beforehand. Have all your ingredients ready to go. Don't fear the egg white you're going to refrig what you don't use--and trust me you're going to use the whole batch!!

            So good!

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              fldhkybnva Jun 14, 2013 04:22 PM

              What's the best way to store it if you don't use the whole batch?

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                HillJ Jun 14, 2013 04:30 PM

                In the cold spot of your frig. But I'd recommend using it in 3 days tops because the toum changes from a tasty light spread to an air puddle.

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                  fldhkybnva Jun 14, 2013 05:07 PM

                  OK, thanks. There are only a couple of us so maybe I can halve it

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                    HillJ Jun 14, 2013 05:37 PM

                    Just my own fyi..I haven't had success halving the recipe. Or, not following the directions as written to the tee. Something happens to the overall consistency. But if it works for you, let me know.

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                youareabunny Jun 14, 2013 11:37 PM

                Thank you very much! I had already read and bookmarked that page and am glad that it has gotten approval from a CHer. I was trying to avoid egg white but it's worth a shot.

                Vampires won't like me this weekend!

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                  HillJ Jun 15, 2013 06:00 AM

                  If the egg white doesn't bother you, you should be happy with the results. I've made it without egg whites before and wasn't at all happy with the consistency of the spread. And the blender whipping away is key here. Be sure to let the blender do the job.

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                    youareabunny Jun 15, 2013 06:38 AM

                    I will certainly try it with the egg white. I hear that Zankou's is simply oil, garlic and lemon, but considering the volumes that they produce and the industrial equipment they use, it is understandable that they can achieve such consistency... but maybe they do use some sort of thickening or emulsifying ingredient. Who knows?!

                    Hope I don't burn out my blender!

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                      HillJ Jun 15, 2013 07:36 AM

                      If you have a food processor, using the paddle blade and follow the same procedure.

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                        youareabunny Jul 11, 2013 02:42 PM

                        I followed the recipe without egg white and I believe it was a success! I halved the recipe which was risky but it came together, although more gelatinous than creamy smooth. But I think a few stirs before serving will solve that.

                        I stopped once I smelled burning plastic. So my food processor (black and decker) may be injured or near destroyed but I believe it was worth it.

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                          fldhkybnva Jul 11, 2013 04:13 PM

                          Perfect, thanks!

          2. JungMann Jun 14, 2013 07:10 AM

            You can use the toum to baste your chicken, but any kind of heat is going to alter the flavor of the garlic. Essentially you're just baking the chicken with a garlic and olive oil baste.

            Raw you can use the dip as a side to any grilled meat. I like it on rice and really it can be used to perk up anything that needs a hit of garlic.

            1. chowser Jun 14, 2013 07:27 AM

              I've put it on fried rice. I think it's good on most savory foods.

              1. ipsedixit Jun 14, 2013 08:06 AM

                Maybe make grilled cheese with it?

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                  fldhkybnva Jun 14, 2013 04:22 PM

                  Aha, I like this idea!

                2. boogiebaby Jun 14, 2013 01:24 PM

                  Serve it on the side. It's just going to separate when you bake it.

                  I like it with grilled chicken and rice. I also like it as a dip for sliced carrots. I also put it on pita and add feta and sliced cucumbers -- black olives too, if I have them.

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                    Harters Jun 15, 2013 06:58 AM

                    Chunks of chicken coated in toum and then grilled on a kebab skewer are served at a Lebanese place I know. A lovely change from it being served as a sauce.

                    1. pamsaliba Jul 10, 2013 01:58 PM

                      Mixed with sriracha, on anything.

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                        EdwinNJ Jul 10, 2013 08:06 PM

                        Bathing in it, using it as personal lubricant, worshipping it as a god

                        I LOVE GARLLIICCCCC!!!!! NOM NOM NOM NOM!!!!

                        Usually I just put it on bread, but I have spread it on the bread before making open-faced (or normal) grilled cheese sandwiches

                        Heating it is only a problem where you use egg in the recipe as an emulsifier, as the egg may make the stuff solidify to some extent. This can be avoided by using lecithin as an emulsifier. Normaly something you can't get, but luckily whole foods sells sunflower lecithin in jars, I guess as some stupid health thing. You can also order liquid soy lecithin online for the same reason, but whole foods is brick-and-mortar so it's easier to just drive there and save on the shipping.

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                          fldhkybnva Jul 11, 2013 10:53 AM

                          Do you have a preferred recipe or method?

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                            EdwinNJ Jul 11, 2013 08:36 PM

                            Recipe has only a few variations. Some variations include lemon juice, I don't. It's always just blend and slowly add oil until it thickens a lot, more oil than even the volume of chopped garlic. And of course, salt it. Oh yeha, nd obvs you have to use an oil that isn't solid at fridge temps, like canola or soybean.

                            With the egg yolk, you first drop an egg yolk or two in, then add the oil. For using the lecithin paste, I might first dilute that and mix it in some oil by heating it, since the lecithin by itself is so thick it wouldn't mix well on its own. Then add that oil-lecithin mix first before adding the rest of the oil.

                        2. pinehurst Jul 11, 2013 11:02 AM

                          I haven't heated it. I use it raw and make it minimalist. I use olive oil, and a ton of garlic, and kosher salt, mashing the garlic with salt first and adding olive oil dribble by dribble. I use a mortar and pestle not to be authentic, but b/c I don't own a food processor. Spritz of lemon at the end and I'm good.

                          I dip shrimp in it, and like it on tomatoes.

                          I've had it *with* roast chicken as a dip, but not on it as it roasts, but as I love garlic I don't think I'd mind!!!

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