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Cookbook of the Month July 2013: The Voting Thread

greedygirl Jun 10, 2013 04:39 AM

Lots of nominations this month - I hope I've counted right because it was a tad confusing at times with nominations for both the author and one of her books, and for pairs of books!

Anyhow, I've narrowed it down to three books, although a couple of others narrowly missed the cut. I also decided to count Mediterranean Harvest and Two Greedy Italians separately, as only a couple of people suggested them as a pair. Yes, this month was tricky!

The three books with the most nominations are:

TWO GREEDY ITALIANS by Gennaro Contaldo and Antonio Carluccio
BIG SMALL PLATES by Cindy Pawlcyn

Please note that the Diana Henry books have slightly different titles in America, which are Pure, Simple Cooking and Plenty, respectively.

As in previous months, please vote by checking the "recommend" box by your chosen title.

Voting will close at 0800GMT on Saturday, 15th June. Something tells me this is going to be tight!

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  1. greedygirl Jun 10, 2013 04:39 AM

    Vote here for:


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    1. re: greedygirl
      greedygirl Jun 14, 2013 10:04 AM

      I can't recommend my own post so am voting here for TWO GREEDY ITALIANS.

      1. re: greedygirl
        pikawicca Jun 14, 2013 11:12 AM

        There's nothing to keep you from voting for a book you recommended, in fact it seems odd not to IMO.

        1. re: pikawicca
          juliejulez Jun 14, 2013 11:26 AM

          I think she meant since she can't click the "recommend" button on her own post, she's just adding her vote below.

          1. re: juliejulez
            pikawicca Jun 14, 2013 12:38 PM

            Got it. Had me scratching my head.

        2. re: greedygirl
          dkennedy Jun 14, 2013 11:37 AM

          How interesting that you can't use your own vote button!

          1. re: dkennedy
            LulusMom Jun 14, 2013 12:35 PM

            I think that she just can't recommend her own post, as julie said.

      2. greedygirl Jun 10, 2013 04:40 AM

        Vote here for:


        1. greedygirl Jun 10, 2013 04:41 AM

          Vote here for:




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          1. re: greedygirl
            jpr54_1 Jun 14, 2013 04:59 AM

            just a thought
            change your votes for the 2 leaders

            1. re: jpr54_1
              juliejulez Jun 14, 2013 08:59 AM

              I don't want to vote for either of the two leaders because the likelihood of me cooking from either one is pretty low. My July is kind of crazy and I won't have a lot of time for cooking, especially on weekends, so that's why I voted for Cook Simple since it seemed to have a lot of quick weeknight meal stuff in it.

              I also don't think it's fair to vote for a book I'm not super interested in just to boost votes. I looked at some of the recipes online for TGI and they didn't seem that exciting to me, and there don't seem to be a ton of recipes online for Big Small Plates.

              1. re: juliejulez
                jpr54_1 Jun 14, 2013 10:58 AM

                i respect your explanation

                1. re: juliejulez
                  herby Jun 14, 2013 01:17 PM

                  JJ, there are a few recipes on-line from Big Small Plates. Check out:
                  There are probably more.

                  1. re: herby
                    juliejulez Jun 14, 2013 02:10 PM

                    Thanks, I did do some searching yesterday, and found the google books one, but a lot of the recipes I looked at had various pages of the recipes omitted, as is common w/ google books. In the link above, pages 97-381 are omitted. Or, there's the 2nd half of the recipe on page 95, but pages 93 and 94 are omitted.

                    The project foodie link only gives ingredients, not full recipes, like EYB does.

                    I seriously did search for awhile yesterday, probably for 20 minutes or so, but didn't find much in the way of actual full recipes for the book, other than the few that are included in full on the google book.

                    1. re: juliejulez
                      Caitlin McGrath Jun 14, 2013 02:16 PM

                      Surprisingly, there are actually quite a number of full recipes viewable via Amazon's look inside feature.


                      1. re: Caitlin McGrath
                        juliejulez Jun 14, 2013 02:23 PM

                        Thanks, it appears they are....mostly the same ones as the google book, but a few extra pages added in. 95-360 are still missing. Should the book win maybe I can try out a few from the earlier pages if I have the time and it wins.

                        But, I still don't feel right voting for a book that I can't commit to cooking from. This may be silly, but when I vote for a book I really feel committed to cook from it, and I just can't commit to either of these books, like I said above. There was a whole hullabaloo about people voting and then not participating a few months ago and as a newer member here, I don't want to be that person. Reminds me, we actually haven't seen blue room since then....not sure if she was upset about that or if something else is going on in her life. But anyway, I'm still refraining from changing my vote.

                        1. re: juliejulez
                          greedygirl Jun 14, 2013 02:39 PM

                          I don't think you're being silly at all juliejulez. I didn't vote last month because I knew my commitment would be minimal due to being away for half of June. I do worry slightly that this system of voting lends itself slightly to tactical voting, but I also like the transparency of it.

                          1. re: juliejulez
                            Caitlin McGrath Jun 14, 2013 02:41 PM

                            I understand completely. I don't vote all that often, for the same reason. I may get the winning book from library or cook from online sources in a given month or not regardless of whether I nominated/voted, but I do feel I should only vote when I have intention to commit to participating in some way.

                            1. re: juliejulez
                              Breadcrumbs Jun 14, 2013 02:59 PM

                              I totally understand Julie. I'm travelling a lot lately so I'll vote for a book if I think I can commit to cook a few things during the month. I make Italian food so frequently that I'm confident I can make a few dishes no matter how tight my time is because I'll likely have all the ingredients in my home or freezer and, I have the skill to execute them. So, for the last 2 COTMs that's where I've cast my vote.

                              I can only imagine that folks vote with the very best of intentions of cooking from the book but let's face it, sometimes life gets in the way. I feel for them, the COTM is a lot of fun and I'm sure they wish they could participate. I love that the threads live on in perpetuity though. It's great to have the ability to learn from and add to them months and even years later.

                2. Gio Jun 10, 2013 04:45 AM

                  Well I'm done, now I'll just hang out here and watch the show. Thanks as always, GG!

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                  1. re: Gio
                    greedygirl Jun 10, 2013 05:05 AM

                    Vote early, vote often!

                    1. re: Gio
                      JoanN Jun 10, 2013 05:22 AM

                      Joining you on the couch, Gio. You can have charge of the remote.

                      1. re: JoanN
                        LulusMom Jun 10, 2013 05:23 AM

                        I'll mix the drinks.

                        1. re: LulusMom
                          greedygirl Jun 10, 2013 05:30 AM

                          Make mine a stiff one!

                          1. re: greedygirl
                            LulusMom Jun 10, 2013 06:07 AM

                            Don't know how to make 'em any other way, darlin'.

                            1. re: LulusMom
                              Breadcrumbs Jun 10, 2013 08:17 AM

                              Any room for one more on that couch? I'd love to join you and watch the show...if I can keep my wits about me after one of LlM's cocktails that is!!

                              1. re: Breadcrumbs
                                LulusMom Jun 10, 2013 08:56 AM

                                It's a big couch- plenty of room for all of us. Our version of the playoffs.

                                1. re: LulusMom
                                  MelMM Jun 10, 2013 09:41 AM

                                  Good thing this is a nice long couch. You have any bubbly behind the bar there, LLM?

                                  1. re: MelMM
                                    LulusMom Jun 10, 2013 10:59 AM

                                    Why Mel, it looks like I do! Could someone pass this flute down to Mel please?

                                    1. re: LulusMom
                                      MelMM Jun 10, 2013 11:43 AM

                                      Ah, thanks. And this is the good stuff! Looks like we have a very well-stocked bar here in the voting room.

                                  2. re: LulusMom
                                    LulusMom Jun 13, 2013 07:06 AM

                                    This seems to have turned into a soccer match (and by that I mean not a lot is happening).

                                    1. re: LulusMom
                                      Gio Jun 13, 2013 07:10 AM

                                      I'm not used to these long delays. More time for the cheesy commercials I love to hate... I hope this isn't an omen for 2016.

                                      1. re: Gio
                                        Breadcrumbs Jun 13, 2013 07:49 AM

                                        Well I just stepped out to pick up this fabulous bottle of Brunello and some amazing prosciutto. I was hoping we might invite some of the folks sitting on the Cook Simple couch to join us over here for a wonderful taste of Italy....

                                        1. re: Breadcrumbs
                                          herby Jun 13, 2013 08:44 AM

                                          Hey, BC, move over to our Big Small Plates couch and bring your wine to enjoy with an amazing array of small plates all with big yummy flavours :))

                                          1. re: herby
                                            Breadcrumbs Jun 14, 2013 04:11 AM

                                            Yoo Hoo...herby, LlM just pulled an amazing looking pizza out of the oven and we're serving it on small plates! Why not bring all your friends over here...we'd love to have you!

                                            1. re: Breadcrumbs
                                              LulusMom Jun 14, 2013 06:25 AM

                                              (nudge nudge) tell her about the champers and pizza!

                                          2. re: Breadcrumbs
                                            greedygirl Jun 13, 2013 09:28 AM

                                            Waves to Breadcrumbs and the gang from the real Italy, where I've just had my first (of many, no doubt) gelato. I am going to vote this time, btw. Am still wavering slightly though...

                                            1. re: greedygirl
                                              Gio Jun 13, 2013 09:59 AM

                                              You LOVE Italy. Remember?

                                              1. re: Gio
                                                greedygirl Jun 13, 2013 10:19 AM

                                                I'm going to love it even more after tonight's dinner, hopefully! Arrived too late for lunch, and woman cannot live on gelato alone.

                                                1. re: greedygirl
                                                  Gio Jun 13, 2013 10:24 AM

                                                  Buon appetito, GREEDY Girl!

                                                  1. re: greedygirl
                                                    LulusMom Jun 13, 2013 12:16 PM

                                                    Buona sera. Have a delightful time. I bet the weather is significantly better than your home base. Low 90s here today.

                                                    May I second the others in suggesting you vote based on name and location?

                                                    1. re: LulusMom
                                                      greedygirl Jun 13, 2013 01:26 PM

                                                      It's hot, hot, hot, and i've just eaten some of the best pasta I've ever had in a simple place where they just tell you the menu. I don't eat pasta that often, really, but now I want to run out and buy a machine! Incredible.

                                                      1. re: greedygirl
                                                        Gio Jun 13, 2013 05:34 PM

                                                        Oh. Pasta. Now there's a thought...

                                                2. re: greedygirl
                                                  Breadcrumbs Jun 13, 2013 10:21 AM

                                                  Buonasera gg! Just think, you can pick up all sorts of Italian ingredients to cook with during your stay!!

                                                  ...and I'd be remiss if I didn't point out the "family" connection you have to this book:

                                                  "Greedy" girl . . . Two "Greedy" Italians - the book has your name all over it!!!!

                                                  1. re: Breadcrumbs
                                                    Allegra_K Jun 13, 2013 10:44 AM

                                                    Shameless marketing you're employing, BC & Gio!! Tsk, tsk... :)

                                                    1. re: Allegra_K
                                                      MelMM Jun 13, 2013 01:58 PM

                                                      All is fair in the COTM voting thread...

                                        2. re: Breadcrumbs
                                          jpr54_1 Jun 10, 2013 01:23 PM

                                          as a non alcoholic choice-
                                          I have plenty of fresh coconuts-
                                          all invited to S.E. coast of Florida for drinks

                                  3. re: JoanN
                                    Gio Jun 10, 2013 06:22 AM

                                    I mute the commercials...

                                    1. re: JoanN
                                      dkennedy Jun 14, 2013 03:57 PM

                                      Scootch over, my copy of Stir just arrived (bought based on another thread) and I am going to snuggle up here on the cushy part of the couch and drool immerse myself until the votes are counted. LLM, can you make me a drink?

                                      1. re: dkennedy
                                        LulusMom Jun 14, 2013 04:00 PM

                                        Always. What suits your fancy?

                                        1. re: LulusMom
                                          Breadcrumbs Jun 14, 2013 04:03 PM

                                          Not dk but given that it's Friday I'd like a cocktail LlM...bartender's choice - it's been a busy week and I'll be happy to indulge in anything you might be so kind as to pass my way.

                                          1. re: Breadcrumbs
                                            LulusMom Jun 14, 2013 04:18 PM

                                            Perhaps a nice dry Hendricks martini?

                                            1. re: LulusMom
                                              Breadcrumbs Jun 14, 2013 04:28 PM

                                              Sounds good. Believe it or not, I've never had a gin martini!! Happy to rectify that though!

                                              1. re: Breadcrumbs
                                                JoanN Jun 14, 2013 04:34 PM

                                                I got put off gin after an incident in college that we don't need to discuss here. Just last week, at a very small wedding dinner, one of the party ordered a Hendrick's martini. "Make that two" popped out of my mouth rather unexpectedly. Man, was that good. Maybe 50 years of denial makes you appreciate something more.

                                                1. re: JoanN
                                                  Breadcrumbs Jun 14, 2013 04:39 PM

                                                  How funny Joan, I too had an "incident" (yeah, let's call it that) with gin!

                                                  1. re: JoanN
                                                    LulusMom Jun 14, 2013 05:55 PM

                                                    Hendricks is really nice gin ladies. Only the best for those of us on the couch.

                                                    1. re: LulusMom
                                                      JoanN Jun 14, 2013 06:25 PM

                                                      The friend who ordered Hendrick's described it as "cucumbery," which I thought an excellent description once I tried it. In the spirit of Chowhound, I bought a bottle of Beefeater. (Note in self defense that the pork chop recipe in "Smoke & Pickles" calls for the chops to be marinated in a cup of gin (plus other good stuff). All this gin tasting is in pursuit of a recipe, I assure you.

                                                      1. re: JoanN
                                                        Gio Jun 14, 2013 08:07 PM

                                                        My usual evening drink is a Beefeater martini (Noily Pratt or Martini Rossi) on the rocks with a twist... sometimes a slice of peeled ginger if I'm prepping it for a recipe. Henrtick's makes a fine martini w a slice of cucumber.

                                                        1. re: Gio
                                                          greedygirl Jun 14, 2013 11:26 PM

                                                          I've never had a martini made with Martini Rossi before - must try. I like Martini Rossi on the rocks with a twist of orange which is a traditional aperitif in Madrid. Last night I had a Spritz for the first time which may be my new favourite aperitif - aperol, prosecco and soda on the rocks.

                                                          1. re: greedygirl
                                                            Gio Jun 15, 2013 04:07 AM

                                                            I meant the Dry vermouth... not the sweet. Although that Is a very nice aperitif, my favorite is Punt e Mes w a slice of lemon peel. Spritz is so continental...

                                                            1. re: Gio
                                                              greedygirl Jun 15, 2013 02:25 PM

                                                              Isn't Martini Rossi the red one?

                                                              1. re: greedygirl
                                                                JoanN Jun 15, 2013 02:48 PM

                                                                They make both sweet and dry, and lots of other stuff. Huge company. They also own the French Noilly Pratt.

                                                          2. re: Gio
                                                            LulusMom Jun 15, 2013 04:01 AM

                                                            I've been serving mine with cucumber slices. Loverly.

                                              2. re: LulusMom
                                                dkennedy Jun 14, 2013 04:05 PM

                                                Whatever you are having!!!

                                              3. re: dkennedy
                                                Breadcrumbs Jun 14, 2013 04:01 PM

                                                Oh dk, what fun! One of my absolute favourite Italian cookbooks!

                                                1. re: Breadcrumbs
                                                  dkennedy Jun 14, 2013 04:04 PM

                                                  I am reviewing your notes on EYB right now!

                                                  1. re: dkennedy
                                                    Breadcrumbs Jun 14, 2013 04:15 PM

                                                    Ahhh, memories of deliciousness past! Enjoy! I'm excited for you dk!!

                                            2. re: Gio
                                              Candy Jun 16, 2013 09:48 AM

                                              I'm joining you.

                                            3. d
                                              dkennedy Jun 10, 2013 05:55 AM

                                              Well, this month's COTM nomination thread was especially dangerous for me, I bought 3 books, none of which made it to the voting thread! My vote went to Big Small Plates, and I also bought Cindy's Supper Club by the same author and have taken Mustards out of the library so I will be in good standing if Cindy wins.

                                              I did buy an Italian book, Stir, but not 2GIs, so I will have to stand on the sidelines if this one wins. In the past I had checked Plenty out of the library and decided I didn't need this one, so I will try to do that again. BTW, the last new book was Northwest Bounty, of course will report back on all of these when they arrive.

                                              ETA: Here is what I will be making tonight out of BSP:

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                                              1. re: dkennedy
                                                jpr54_1 Jun 10, 2013 06:14 AM

                                                fortunately I have the Two Greedy Italians

                                                1. re: jpr54_1
                                                  Gio Jun 10, 2013 06:23 AM


                                                  1. re: jpr54_1
                                                    qianning Jun 10, 2013 06:46 AM

                                                    unfortunately neither my library nor I own tgi....but then again, choosing between the other two options was tough enough. there were lots of great ideas in the nomination thread, mostly new to me, but many very intriguing, good work & thanks for sorting it all out gg.

                                                  2. re: dkennedy
                                                    herby Jun 10, 2013 06:59 AM

                                                    The only nominated book I have is Big Small Plates. I bought it last year after a lively discussion on one of these boards but have not made anything from it yet. So, if it wins I will be cooking along :)

                                                    I had Diana Henry from the library but it didn't speak to me and as DK I have Stir but not Greedy - definitely do not need another Italian cookbook!

                                                    I love the idea of BSP for the summer - great for casual dining and entertaining too.

                                                    1. re: herby
                                                      Breadcrumbs Jun 10, 2013 08:21 AM

                                                      Lots of the TGI recipes seem to be online herby so if that wins you could cook along if you wish. I voted for TGI since Italian is mr bc's favourite cuisine and, the book looks fabulous. That said, I also own BSP but like you, I haven't cooked from it so will definitely be able to join in if that should win.

                                                      1. re: Breadcrumbs
                                                        herby Jun 10, 2013 08:39 AM

                                                        Good to know about on-line recipes - thank you, BC! I love Italian food too but have already a number of books and do not use what I have enough!

                                                    2. re: dkennedy
                                                      dkennedy Jun 11, 2013 08:32 PM

                                                      Just wanted to report back about the lamb burgers I made out of Big Small Plates. They were am-a-zing!!!!

                                                      A tamarind vinaigrette dresses the greens that go on the burger; then a bunch of herbs are chopped up to go in the salad - basil, mint, cilantro, (I also added a considerable amount of arugula); the burgers themselves have more herbs in them, plus sweet onion, garlic, oyster sauce and lime; all this makes for a very flavorful, juicy burger, that was served atop onion rolls and topped with an aioli and more of the vinaigrette.

                                                      My only complaint was that the patties tend to fall apart so I ended up making them on the stove top instead of the grill because they would have fallen through the grates.

                                                      1. re: dkennedy
                                                        greedygirl Jun 11, 2013 09:10 PM

                                                        A shameless attempt to win votes! Maybe we should have a "no campaigning" rule for ths thread. ;-)

                                                        1. re: greedygirl
                                                          dkennedy Jun 11, 2013 09:16 PM

                                                          Tee hee hee.

                                                    3. juliejulez Jun 10, 2013 09:14 AM

                                                      Sad none of the grilling books made it on, but maybe next month!

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                                                      1. re: juliejulez
                                                        Gio Jun 10, 2013 09:19 AM

                                                        Julie, there is a grilling books thread already in progress...

                                                        It's not book specific so folks can report on a recipe in any grilling cookbook.

                                                        1. re: Gio
                                                          juliejulez Jun 10, 2013 09:25 AM

                                                          Oh I know, I just thought it would be fun to do one as a COTM too :)

                                                          1. re: juliejulez
                                                            MelMM Jun 10, 2013 09:43 AM

                                                            We did have Raichlen's Planet Barbecue! as COTM a while back. If you have the book, which I highly recommend, you can always add to that thread.

                                                            1. re: MelMM
                                                              juliejulez Jun 10, 2013 09:44 AM

                                                              That book is on my list... I just bought the Pete Evans book I nominated, and Raichlen's BBQ Bible, so those'll probably keep me occupied for a bit before I will let myself buy another one :)

                                                      2. delys77 Jun 10, 2013 10:04 AM

                                                        I am going to abstain from voting as July will be busy and I am unlikely to participate much. That said, I may see what is online for the winner and dip a toe in the water if time allows. Happy cooking all!

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                                                          pavlova Jun 10, 2013 10:52 AM

                                                          Interesting! I haven't got any of these books and neither does my library so I'll abstain. I'll actually be in Italy for the month of July, so I'll do my own version of a greedy non-Italian!

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                                                          1. re: pavlova
                                                            Gio Jun 10, 2013 11:00 AM

                                                            Oh mio Dio, A month in Italy. Be still my heart...

                                                            1. re: Gio
                                                              angelsmom Jun 13, 2013 01:14 PM

                                                              Rally call fr a few more votes for TWO GREEDY ITALIANS.
                                                              I have so many pages flagged to cook.

                                                              1. re: angelsmom
                                                                Gio Jun 14, 2013 04:40 AM

                                                                Angelsmom!!!! Quick!! You must vote by clicking the Recommend button at the top of the page... We Don't want to lose your vote!! Open the first Vote Here box and CLICK...

                                                                1. re: angelsmom
                                                                  Breadcrumbs Jun 14, 2013 04:51 AM

                                                                  Oh yes angiesmom...please come back and cast your vote up-thread.

                                                                  Good catch Gio! I've started the car....let's go find her!!! ; )

                                                                  1. re: Breadcrumbs
                                                                    KrumTx Jun 14, 2013 06:44 AM

                                                                    I've been eyeing a new Coach bag, and briefly have considered selling my vote:) Another COTM barn-burner!

                                                                    1. re: KrumTx
                                                                      LulusMom Jun 14, 2013 07:58 AM

                                                                      It (your vote) is probably worth a fair penny to some of us ...

                                                                      1. re: LulusMom
                                                                        greedygirl Jun 14, 2013 08:42 AM

                                                                        You're all being very naughty while my back is turned! No gerrymandering on my watch, thankyouverymuch.

                                                                        1. re: greedygirl
                                                                          smtucker Jun 14, 2013 10:41 AM

                                                                          +2 for using the word gerrymander on a cooking board.

                                                                    2. re: Breadcrumbs
                                                                      angelsmom Jun 14, 2013 05:55 PM

                                                                      Yes I hit the recommend vote got TGI

                                                                      1. re: angelsmom
                                                                        Breadcrumbs Jun 14, 2013 05:57 PM

                                                                        For some reason I'm not seeing your name there angelsmom. It's a counter-intuitive process, you have to click on the word "Recommend" vs the box beside it.

                                                                    3. re: angelsmom
                                                                      greedygirl Jun 14, 2013 02:24 PM

                                                                      I am inclined to count this but will also check that angelsmom hasn't also clicked on the recommend box.

                                                                      1. re: greedygirl
                                                                        L.Nightshade Jun 14, 2013 03:35 PM

                                                                        I agree with you here, greedygirl. Although it goes against my own interests in this race! I think if someone is clear that they are voting for a book, but just don't have the hang of the new method yet, the vote should be counted.

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                                                                  smtucker Jun 13, 2013 04:52 PM

                                                                  Two Greedy Italians doesn't exist in the Minuteman Library system, but there are "tons" of Big Small Plates to be had. I should read the nomination thread to learn more before voting.

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                                                                  1. re: smtucker
                                                                    Breadcrumbs Jun 13, 2013 05:00 PM

                                                                    Lots of the TGI recipes are online smtucker as TGI is a cooking programme.

                                                                  2. Breadcrumbs Jun 14, 2013 11:23 AM

                                                                    I was just re-reading your OP to see when the voting closed and I have to say, you called it this time by saying it was going to be tight!! With mere hours to go we're almost neck in neck. Such excitement here at the COTM Noms!

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                                                                      dkennedy Jun 14, 2013 01:45 PM

                                                                      I am embarrassed to ask this but isn't GMT 9 hours ahead of us here on the West coast - California time? If so, it must be 9:40 at night right now, correct? So my real question is, is there 11 hours left for voting or 23 hours? Are we closing at 8:00 a.m. or 8:00 p.m., GMT? I was thinking 8:00 at night but BC mentioned there are mere hours to go so I thought I better clarify.

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                                                                      1. re: dkennedy
                                                                        LulusMom Jun 14, 2013 01:57 PM

                                                                        Just guessing here, but I think GMT is military time, so it would be in the morning.

                                                                        1. re: LulusMom
                                                                          pikawicca Jun 14, 2013 02:27 PM

                                                                          GMT is not military time. You are correct that it is 9 hours ahead of Pacific time.

                                                                          1. re: pikawicca
                                                                            JoanN Jun 14, 2013 02:40 PM

                                                                            I don't think so. I think PDT is GMT -7.

                                                                            1. re: JoanN
                                                                              juliejulez Jun 14, 2013 02:46 PM

                                                                              Correct, according to this site, GMT is currently around 9:45pm http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/

                                                                              1. re: JoanN
                                                                                greedygirl Jun 14, 2013 02:49 PM

                                                                                Joan is right.. The time zone thing is a nightmare for COTM purposes. I've also just realised that I'm GMT+2 in Italy....

                                                                            2. re: LulusMom
                                                                              juliejulez Jun 14, 2013 02:29 PM

                                                                              GMT = Greenwich Mean Time :) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenwic...

                                                                            3. re: dkennedy
                                                                              greedygirl Jun 14, 2013 02:20 PM

                                                                              0800 is 8 in the morning. 8pm would be 2000. I'm really used to this system because of working in broadcasting and I thought it made things clear. If that's not the case I will give alternatives next time around.

                                                                              1. re: greedygirl
                                                                                dkennedy Jun 14, 2013 02:38 PM

                                                                                Thank you for the clarification.

                                                                                1. re: greedygirl
                                                                                  JoanN Jun 14, 2013 03:46 PM

                                                                                  Well, if we didn't all have it figured out before, we sure do now. And presumably next month's vote will be less of a nail biter and those of us on the couch won't be sitting there staring at the clock.

                                                                                  1. re: greedygirl
                                                                                    LulusMom Jun 14, 2013 04:01 PM

                                                                                    Exactly - military time.

                                                                                  2. re: dkennedy
                                                                                    Breadcrumbs Jun 14, 2013 03:08 PM

                                                                                    0800 GMT Sat = 3am EST Sat = Midnight tonight for LA Ca. I believe.

                                                                                    1. re: Breadcrumbs
                                                                                      JoanN Jun 14, 2013 03:19 PM

                                                                                      You're forgetting that it's daylight savings time down here: EDT and PDT respectively. So 4:00 a.m and 1:00 a.m.

                                                                                      1. re: JoanN
                                                                                        sedimental Jun 14, 2013 03:47 PM

                                                                                        Is that anything like...."it's 5:00 somewhere?" Lol

                                                                                        1. re: sedimental
                                                                                          LulusMom Jun 14, 2013 04:02 PM

                                                                                          Sounds like you're reading for a drink.

                                                                                          1. re: sedimental
                                                                                            JoanN Jun 14, 2013 04:03 PM

                                                                                            It's always 5 o'clock on the couch.

                                                                                            1. re: JoanN
                                                                                              Breadcrumbs Jun 14, 2013 04:18 PM

                                                                                              There's no place like home Joan!! btw, tomorrow I plan to make more rhubarb syrup for my favourite spring cocktail ...a little rhubarb syrup, a generous pour of Aperol and then fill the flute w Prosecco. I call it my Comfortably Numb Cocktail.

                                                                                              1. re: Breadcrumbs
                                                                                                JoanN Jun 14, 2013 04:28 PM

                                                                                                Oh, my! Perhaps that should be the couch cocktail for Spring. Although I must say, that Hendrick's martini doesn't sound too bad either.

                                                                                                Have you posted the details on the rhubarb syrup anywhere? Sounds lovely. Although I already have more syrups in the fridge than I know what to do with.

                                                                                                1. re: JoanN
                                                                                                  Breadcrumbs Jun 14, 2013 04:35 PM

                                                                                                  Here's the recipe I've been making for a few years now. Super quick and easy:


                                                                                                  For drinks, I do strain it as they suggest. For all other purposes, I just whizz it in the blender.

                                                                                                  I know what you mean about having too many syrups and it's a pity you aren't close by and I could just give you some! I made a batch last weekend and put it in a lovely Weck jar then packaged it up w a bottle of Prosecco and a bottle of Aperol as a hostess gift for a good friend.

                                                                                                  1. re: Breadcrumbs
                                                                                                    JoanN Jun 14, 2013 05:01 PM

                                                                                                    What a lovely hostess gift. Think I'll steal it at some point. (The idea; not the gift.) Thanks.

                                                                                                    1. re: JoanN
                                                                                                      dkennedy Jun 14, 2013 05:10 PM

                                                                                                      I wish we all lived closer together. I think any one of us would be blown over by such a lovely and thoughtful hostess gift and unfortunately I don't have anyone in my inner circle who would appreciate such a gift or have the where with all to gift me something like that! First one to win the lottery should spring for all of us to share a summer Chateau some place fabulous!

                                                                                                      1. re: dkennedy
                                                                                                        JoanN Jun 14, 2013 05:22 PM

                                                                                                        That fabulous Chateau someplace (or even just a nice house on a lake with a big kitchen) could be doable. It would just take a lot of planning. But I'd be in. In a heartbeat.

                                                                                                        1. re: JoanN
                                                                                                          LulusMom Jun 14, 2013 05:57 PM

                                                                                                          If people can deal with a very chatty 7 year old foodie joining in, then Lulu and I will be there.

                                                                                                          1. re: JoanN
                                                                                                            herby Jun 14, 2013 06:59 PM

                                                                                                            Fabulous idea! Let me know where and when, and I'll be there with a case of nice wine :)

                                                                                                          2. re: dkennedy
                                                                                                            Breadcrumbs Jun 14, 2013 05:23 PM

                                                                                                            Thanks so much dk, I love your idea...I'm in!

                                                                                                          3. re: JoanN
                                                                                                            Breadcrumbs Jun 14, 2013 05:22 PM

                                                                                                            Thanks Joan, enjoy!!

                                                                                                            1. re: JoanN
                                                                                                              LulusMom Jun 14, 2013 05:56 PM

                                                                                                              Oh what the heck, I'll actually steal the gift. Anyone for some of BC's rhubarb syrup in their cocktail?

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                                                                                              dimsumgirl Jun 14, 2013 03:10 PM

                                                                                              BIG SMALL PLATES

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                                                                                              1. re: dimsumgirl
                                                                                                Breadcrumbs Jun 14, 2013 03:11 PM

                                                                                                dimsumgirl you have to click the "Recommend" button beside that book at the top of this thread to cast your vote.

                                                                                                1. re: Breadcrumbs
                                                                                                  dkennedy Jun 14, 2013 03:44 PM

                                                                                                  So if you are going to count angelmom's vote does that mean you will also count dimsumgirl's vote?

                                                                                                  1. re: dkennedy
                                                                                                    L.Nightshade Jun 14, 2013 03:50 PM

                                                                                                    Hahaha! I didn't see that one. It's only fair, I think!

                                                                                                    1. re: dkennedy
                                                                                                      greedygirl Jun 14, 2013 11:28 PM

                                                                                                      Of course.

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                                                                                                  angelsmom Jun 14, 2013 05:58 PM

                                                                                                  It is not allowing me to recommend TGI.
                                                                                                  Mary. (Angels mom)

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                                                                                                    herby Jun 14, 2013 06:57 PM

                                                                                                    Because "it" knows that you should recommend the one below :))

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                                                                                                    smtucker Jun 14, 2013 07:06 PM

                                                                                                    This maybe the BEST COTM thread ever!

                                                                                                    1. Gin in college is a mistake. Incidents, yes, let's call them that, have occurred. Sometimes you have to move away for a year or two until it all blows over.

                                                                                                    2. Gin after aged 30 is not a mistake. And the quinine is an important nutrient.

                                                                                                    3. Rhubarb syrup would be a fine hostess gift. Now I need to hostess something and invite all of you.

                                                                                                    4. Chateau, food, √. I am in.

                                                                                                    5. A fine Cote du Rhone wine is also a nice hostess gift, if I am the hostess.


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                                                                                                    1. re: smtucker
                                                                                                      Breadcrumbs Jun 14, 2013 07:26 PM

                                                                                                      <<This maybe the BEST COTM thread ever!>>

                                                                                                      I was thinking the very same thing smt. Thanks too for the chuckle provided w the rest of your post!

                                                                                                      1. re: Breadcrumbs
                                                                                                        greedygirl Jun 14, 2013 11:49 PM

                                                                                                        Mr gg is rather bemused and asks if there could be an "international incident"!

                                                                                                      2. re: smtucker
                                                                                                        greedygirl Jun 14, 2013 11:31 PM

                                                                                                        My college incident was with Baileys. Still can't stomach it.

                                                                                                      3. Gio Jun 14, 2013 08:13 PM

                                                                                                        Are we there yet? Or should I be asking, "Is it soup yet?"

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                                                                                                          greedygirl Jun 14, 2013 11:32 PM

                                                                                                          An hour and a half to go - or after breakfast for me!

                                                                                                        2. greedygirl Jun 15, 2013 01:01 AM

                                                                                                          Voting is now closed and it was a close one!

                                                                                                          The winner, by two votes, is BIG SMALL PLATES, which rather blows the theory out of the water that a single book by a lesser known author can't be COTM.

                                                                                                          I have to run now, so the discussion thread will go up later today.

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                                                                                                          1. re: greedygirl
                                                                                                            L.Nightshade Jun 15, 2013 01:56 AM

                                                                                                            Oops. I think that was my theory.
                                                                                                            But I'm excited to cook from this book. Maybe we can do an adjunct thread for her other books too.

                                                                                                            1. re: greedygirl
                                                                                                              Gio Jun 15, 2013 04:11 AM

                                                                                                              And don'tcha know... I ordered Big Small Plates yesterday on the off chance it would win.

                                                                                                              1. re: Gio
                                                                                                                lesliej Jun 15, 2013 05:42 AM

                                                                                                                I just found a (hopefully) decent copy on Amazon as well - I didn't vote for BSP but after looking through the "see inside" pages my enthusiasm is growing...oh, and as a relative newcomer to cotm I have to agree that reading these threads always puts a smile on my face!

                                                                                                                1. re: lesliej
                                                                                                                  Gio Jun 15, 2013 05:46 AM

                                                                                                                  Glad you're staying with us, Leslie. We're a silly bunch but somehow, as they say in the lower US, we "Git 'er done."

                                                                                                              2. re: greedygirl
                                                                                                                LulusMom Jun 15, 2013 05:18 AM

                                                                                                                Turn out the lights, the party's over.

                                                                                                                1. re: LulusMom
                                                                                                                  Breadcrumbs Jun 15, 2013 05:27 AM

                                                                                                                  Yup, just vacuuming the last of the pizza crumbs up off the couch so we'll be all set for next month.

                                                                                                                  This really was a fun one!

                                                                                                                  Thanks gg. Though I really do think you should reconsider the gerrymandering!! ; )

                                                                                                                  1. re: LulusMom
                                                                                                                    Gio Jun 15, 2013 05:29 AM

                                                                                                                    "It's time to call it a day
                                                                                                                    They've burst your pretty balloon
                                                                                                                    And taken the moon away
                                                                                                                    It's time to wind up the masquerade..."

                                                                                                                    1. re: Gio
                                                                                                                      Breadcrumbs Jun 15, 2013 05:36 AM

                                                                                                                      ...and I'm not sure if the bells are ringing or that's just the after effect of all those cocktails we enjoyed!!

                                                                                                                      1. re: Gio
                                                                                                                        herby Jun 15, 2013 06:50 AM

                                                                                                                        Where is it from, Gio? So harmonious and familiar but can't put a figure on it... must be the after effect of lovely martinis that LLM so expertly prepared :) Was a good party, never mind a little headache!

                                                                                                                        1. re: herby
                                                                                                                          LulusMom Jun 15, 2013 06:53 AM

                                                                                                                          the party was tons of fun! If only it could really happen. Can you imagine the food/drink/chatter that would be happening?

                                                                                                                          1. re: LulusMom
                                                                                                                            herby Jun 15, 2013 01:00 PM

                                                                                                                            We could make it happen !

                                                                                                                          2. re: herby
                                                                                                                            Gio Jun 15, 2013 07:12 AM

                                                                                                                            The Party's Over:
                                                                                                                            -Words by Betty Comden and Adolph Green and Music by Jule Styne,
                                                                                                                            -introduced by Judy Holliday in her last film "Bells Are Ringing" (1956), also starring-Dean Martin and Jean Stapleton.

                                                                                                                            "The party's over
                                                                                                                            It's time to call it a day
                                                                                                                            They've burst your pretty balloon
                                                                                                                            And taken the moon away
                                                                                                                            It's time to wind up the masquerade
                                                                                                                            Just make your mind up the piper must be paid

                                                                                                                            "The party's over
                                                                                                                            The candles flicker and dim
                                                                                                                            You danced and dreamed through the night
                                                                                                                            It seemed to be right just being with him
                                                                                                                            Now you must wake up, all dreams must end
                                                                                                                            Take off your makeup, the party's over
                                                                                                                            It's all over, my friend"


                                                                                                                      2. re: greedygirl
                                                                                                                        dkennedy Jun 16, 2013 10:00 PM


                                                                                                                      3. greedygirl Jun 15, 2013 02:23 PM

                                                                                                                        So - turns out everyone here in the place I'm staying knows the Two Greedy Italians! Gennaro is a friend of the owner Paolo who is also a truffle hunter who supplies Jamie Oliver. He's taking me truffle hunting next week. Exciting or what.

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                                                                                                                        1. re: greedygirl
                                                                                                                          Breadcrumbs Jun 15, 2013 02:31 PM

                                                                                                                          THAT is very cool gg! I can't wait to hear all about it. We shall all be here living vicariously.

                                                                                                                          1. re: greedygirl
                                                                                                                            JoanN Jun 15, 2013 02:42 PM

                                                                                                                            I want a picture of the pig! There will be a pig involved, won't there?

                                                                                                                            1. re: JoanN
                                                                                                                              greedygirl Jun 15, 2013 02:49 PM

                                                                                                                              It's actually a very cute, very small golden cocker spaniel called Truli, which I may have mis-spelled but is Italian for truffle. The summer truffles are late because of the weather but our host's uncle found some lovely ones today which we had for dinner with some wild mushroom gnocchi.

                                                                                                                              I think this may turn out to be the perfect vacation.

                                                                                                                              ETA tartufo is Italian for truffle of course so I'm not sure why Paolo said the dog was called Truli......I may need to investigate further.

                                                                                                                              1. re: greedygirl
                                                                                                                                JoanN Jun 15, 2013 03:10 PM

                                                                                                                                Awwww. Golden cocker spaniel. How adorable.

                                                                                                                                Wild mushroom gnocchi with fresh truffles? You're killing me, gg. Suddenly not satisfied with tonight's fresh-off-the-boat striped bass.

                                                                                                                                Sounds like you're having a great time.

                                                                                                                                1. re: greedygirl
                                                                                                                                  herby Jun 15, 2013 07:07 PM

                                                                                                                                  If we call two completely different things "truffle" , doesn't mean Italians do likewise :)

                                                                                                                              2. re: greedygirl
                                                                                                                                Gio Jun 16, 2013 04:47 AM

                                                                                                                                That bit of news is enormously exciting. You have the Best experiences... Will you get to keep the truffles?

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                                                                                                                                  LulusMom Jun 17, 2013 12:48 PM

                                                                                                                                  Not *quite* the same culinary level as gg, but we're in Scotland and just had a pretty incredible meal (after seeing a castle and some amazing scenery). Those of you who think the UK is still full of stodgy food need to get over here and see.

                                                                                                                                2. re: greedygirl
                                                                                                                                  smtucker Jun 16, 2013 06:45 AM

                                                                                                                                  Epic! What a great adventure.

                                                                                                                                3. greedygirl Jul 9, 2013 01:31 AM

                                                                                                                                  August nomination thread:


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