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Obviously early to expect date accuracy here, but:

The former Noche in the South End will become a place called Blind Tiger. As the name is slang for speakeasy, I'm hoping this might turn out to include a serious craft cocktail program.

The former Sibling Rivalry will become a Mexican restaurant, or so says blogger BosGuy. Presumably a fancy, Yanquified one, which is a relief, because lord knows we don't have enough of those.

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  1. Any connection to Blind Tiger in NYC? I hope it is :)

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    1. re: Trumpetguy

      Someone else asked me about the NYC place of the same name, which he called his favorite craft beer bar in the city. Could be, or it could be an Otto NYC vs. Otto Portland, ME situation.

      http://mcslimjb.blogspot.com/

      1. re: Trumpetguy

        No connection to the NYC joint.

      2. I hope you're right and it's not just some silly no sign/ faux door/ secret handshake sort of place.

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        1. re: LeoLioness

          And more than just a cocktail menu that hits the canonical ingredient notes but is not backed up by a serious training program on technical skills and hospitality chops. I'm hopeful that the failures of Woodward, Descent, and Prohibited are cautionary tales here.

          http://mcslimjb.blogspot.com/

          1. re: LeoLioness

            Yes, we might consider secret handshakes ;)

          2. will blind tiger be the same owners as noche? if so, then *POOF* for hopes of a good cocktail program.

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            1. re: hotoynoodle

              It's not clear from the early news if Boston Nightlife Ventures is selling Noche or reconcepting it, but I agree. The group is capable of hiring competent bartenders (Michael at Forum, for instance), but it doesn't belong in the same conversation as Brick & Mortar and The Hawthorne.

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              1. re: MC Slim JB

                do you mean michael ray? that was an ignominious departure from forum.

                1. re: hotoynoodle

                  I don't know the backstory you are alluding to, but that's who I meant, and I now see that he moved on from Forum some months ago, and is currently at Nix's Mate. Odd; I get over to that place every so often, and I haven't spotted him there.

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                  1. re: MC Slim JB

                    i've worked with michael and love him, so don't get me wrong. let's just say he and the owners had different visions of how their relationship should work.

                    1. re: hotoynoodle

                      Is that what he told ya? :)

                      1. re: wickedated

                        i know the story. it would just get deleted so it's pointless to post it. :)

                2. re: MC Slim JB

                  We'll be focusing on a serious craft cocktail program and hope to be included in the same circles as Brick&Mortar and Hawthorne.

                  1. re: wickedated

                    Noche and Forum opened with strong beverage concepts but quickly started catering to the flavored vodka crowd. Who are you going to bring in to train the staff and make sure the bar remains high?

                    1. re: Unfoodie

                      pun intended?

              2. I believe Commonwealth is slated to open in Kendall Square (Watermark Building?) in September. Chef Nookie is doing updates on Eater which are quite comical.

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                1. re: mkfisher

                  Looks the opening dated is pending on a kickstarter fund for some reason. Maybe he should spend less $ on PR and more on actually opening the place.

                  1. re: Unfoodie

                    "We have come a long way and invested heavily in the design and functionality, but we still need to buy lots of things including plates, glasses and kitchen equipment . . . and we need YOUR help to finish it off."

                    Sounds to me like having money to spend is sort of the issue.

                    1. re: Boston_Otter

                      The date he gave on Eater was Nov. 1, and I don't think he's spending on PR to write about his experience. I have no problems with a kickstarter and in fact participated, as I am excited for it to open and to get a nice market for the area.

                      1. re: CportJ

                        Me too, I'm very much looking forward to it, and happily contributed to the Kickstarter.

                        1. re: CportJ

                          This is correct - he is not paying. (All sponsored posts on Eater are clearly marked, and it's almost always ads from big liquor companies, not local restaurants.) The arrangement was made before I came onboard, but he's acting as a weekly guest columnist. I assume that former editor Aaron thought it'd be cool for readers to get some insight into the process of opening a restaurant in the eyes of a really animated character like Nookie, and I look forward to receiving his dispatches each week.

                          I also contributed a bit to his Kickstarter campaign. People use Kickstarter in a variety of good and bad ways, but that's a much larger discussion for a different venue. My thinking: I like Nookie, I like what he's doing, and I feel comfortable throwing a little bit of money in the pot to help him get his dream place to the opening date. And hey, I get a nice jar of homemade jam as well. Not a bad deal.

                          1. re: blumiethekoala

                            So you know for a fact that he doesn't have a PR firm behind him and he's just getting a lot of media attention because he was on tv 2 yrs ago?

                            Hate to break it to you but most of the stuff you read on Eater is fed to them like a baby.

                            1. re: Unfoodie

                              I don't know whether he has a PR firm for other cases, but I interact with him directly and use him as a guest columnist for Eater because I like his voice and his stories. He does not pay for this, and as I mentioned, sponsored content is clearly marked. Please feel free to email me directly at Rachel@eater.com if you have any questions or concerns about the sourcing of our material.

                        2. re: Boston_Otter

                          Why isn't there money for plates and kitchen equipment? Sounds like this business is slated to fail even before it opens.

                          1. re: Bob Dobalina

                            From the sound of things, he's been putting every cent he can into this operation. The building was custom-built, he's trying something very unique (a combination family restaurant/bar/market), and he's calling in every favor he can to make this place really special and involve the community in any way he can.

                            Opening this up to a kickstarter to bring in some funds to help out doesn't mean it's "slated to fail".

                            I'm very excited about what Nookie's trying to do here. Assuming it's a failure before it's opened is the exact wrong attitude.

                            1. re: Boston_Otter

                              I couldn't agree more. I've been saying Kendall needed a combo restaurant/market since I moved there two years ago. This place will work. My only complaint is that I wish he built it at One Kendall so it wasn't so far from my house.

                              1. re: Boston_Otter

                                I hate to see a business fail and grand ideas are great, but if you blow your budget on nice flourishes instead of showing restraint so you have to get a hand-out for plates and *kitchen equipment*, it does not bode well for the financial management going forward.

                                1. re: Bob Dobalina

                                  Given that he's been scrounging for furniture at yard sales and cutting every corner to make this happen, I think "nice flourishes" are the last thing Nookie's spending money on. Seriously, I've been following this project, and he's not wasting money or blowing his budget, and a Kickstarter isn't a handout. Your info is waaaay off.

                                  1. re: Boston_Otter

                                    Boston_Otter, I really hope you're right!

                                2. re: Boston_Otter

                                  yes.

                        3. "Back Bay Harry's" will open in September (Old Geoffery's Space)

                           
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                          1. re: meeps2002

                            I originally heard it was going to be called Harry's Food & Drink, which I thought was kind of a dick move, considering the longstanding existence of Harry's Bar & Grill in Brighton.

                            The photo does suggest it would be called Back Bay Harry's, which would be better.

                            http://mcslimjb.blogspot.com/

                          2. Not sure when it's going to open, but the former (and oft-renamed) Comm Ave Allston location of Petit Robert Bistro is currently under renovation. The sign in the window says it will be an izakaya/sake bar named Ittoku.

                            My hopes aren't too high, as the sign also says they'll be offering yakitori, ramen, sushi, etc. Breadth of menu is not generally expertise in preparation. But I'll give it a try when they open and report back.

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                            1. re: BobB

                              Apparently it's a joint venture by folks affiliated with Sapporo Ramen, Cafe Mami, and Ebi Sushi.

                              http://boston.eater.com/tags/ittoku

                            2. icob's sister restaurant that will be opening in fort point will be called row 34 and is hiring per craigslist.

                              1. yes, Blind Tiger is looking at a September opening.

                                1. Eater is reporting that Joshua Smith, formerly of Tico, Sweet Caroline's and Battery Park, will be opening a deli on Moody St. in Waltham, Moody's Delicatessen and Provisions. It will offer breakfast and lunch as well as "gourmet" provisions, and all meat will be cured in-house in the USDA facility in the back.

                                  This has the potential to be a pretty great addition to Moody St.

                                  1. we hear sib rivalry is going to be another outpost of barcelona wine bar.

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                                    1. re: bostonfoodz

                                      Not sure I understand the rationale here. More Spanish fare, with Taberna de Haro and Toro a few blocks away? I don't need any more upscale Mex, which is what I first heard might go in there, but even that makes more sense than another Barcelona in this space.

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                                      1. re: MC Slim JB

                                        Taberna and Toro aren't that close to SR. I think you are talking about the joint close to Cleveland Circle which is pretty far from St Mary's and really far from the south end.

                                        But frankly I think Barcelona weighs in at somewhere between OK and meh. No one needs another one.

                                        1. re: C. Hamster

                                          Derrr, I meant Estragon, not Taberna. That still makes three tapas-oriented Spanish places in the South End. Not feeling the business case. Then again, I said, "This burger thing should peter out by the end of 2011", so what do I know?

                                          http://mcslimjb.blogspot.com/

                                          1. re: MC Slim JB

                                            so the brookline barcelona is sufficiently busy that they will build another just a few miles away? with the resounding "meh" on this board i haven't even bothered to go.

                                            1. re: hotoynoodle

                                              Barcelona told me they are looking at new locations, but can't confirm this one at this point in time. So not a done deal by any means, from what it sounds.

                                              1. re: hotoynoodle

                                                worth going when it's not busy if only for the atmosphere, though I guess even that is subjective. It's a nice space to spend some time. but yea, the food is meh-to-ok, but for Brookline it's comparatively on the upper end, which is nice if you're a local.

                                                I prefer Taberna for the food, not so much for the atmosphere.

                                        2. re: bostonfoodz

                                          It might end up being a bartaco, which is another concept from the Barcelona folks that has recently been expanding in CT.

                                          Still redundant though with all the other new Mexican places in the area.

                                        3. Not sure if it will be a September opening but China Sports Bar on Hancock St in the Wollaston section of Quincy has their signs up and they were busy working inside today.

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                                          1. re: Pegmeister

                                            Peg,

                                            That sounds.... Interesting

                                            Where on Hancock ?

                                            1. re: C. Hamster

                                              Near the intersection of Beale. Sorry it took so long to see this post. Now I'll have to do a drive by and see if they have opened.

                                          2. The Whole Foods on Beacon St in Somerville is scheduled to open on Sept 4.

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                                            1. re: Tonality666

                                              About 45 minutes to go before the bread-breaking ceremony that will open the store, and there's already a one-star Yelp review!

                                              http://www.yelp.com/biz/whole-foods-s...

                                              1. re: lossless

                                                That guy seems to really dislike Whole Foods, Lenscrafters and CVS.

                                                I'm hopeful that this new store will thin some of the crowds at River St. and Prospect St.

                                                1. re: mkfisher

                                                  On a related note, I noticed an interesting fact about the new Beacon Street location posted on the store's Facebook page: Unlike the previous Foodmaster location, the new Beacon Street Whole Foods will NOT sell beer and wine. MA law only allows five liquor licenses per chain, and all of the Whole Foods licenses are already spoken for.

                                                  1. re: huuvola

                                                    there is also a liquor store within spitting distance.

                                                    1. re: hotoynoodle

                                                      It's basically next door and its a great and friendly place. I've been a customer for more than 30 years and would hate for them to have a TJ's pop up to suck away customers.

                                                      1. re: C. Hamster

                                                        Just wondering: What liquor store is "spitting distance/basically next door" to the Beacon Street Whole Foods? Do you mean Wine & Cheese Cask? Yes, it's close if you're in a car, but still a 5 minute walk if you live in the neighborhood (as I do) -- and it's not that convenient if you don't live in that direction.

                                                        The only other liquor store in the area that I know of is Martin Brothers on Cambridge Street (near Puritan & Co. in Inman Square).

                                                        1. re: huuvola

                                                          beacon st., in brookline. the wine press is basically next door.

                                                          1. re: hotoynoodle

                                                            Wrong beacon st

                                                            1. re: jgg13

                                                              Ah, I get it now. Just a bit of confusion over the fact that Whole Foods has recently opened new stores on Beacon Street in Brookline ~and~ Beacon Street in Somerville.

                                                              To be clear: There isn't a liquor store that's super close to the Somerville WF location. Best option is Wine & Cheese Cask, which is about a 5 minute walk.

                                              2. re: Tonality666

                                                I stopped by the Beacon Street Whole Foods today on my way home from work to check out the store and eat some free samples (gluten-free chocolate brownie bites = yum!). I am SO glad that they have a small bulk foods section (yea for being able to buy 1/2 cup of nuts or rice or.........). Also, I was super EXCITED that they sold Iggy's hamburger (sandwich) buns individually. I wish the other stores would also do this. The only potential problem is the entrance/exit area is small/tight and it took some time to get out of the store with multiple individuals slowly pushing their carts. Not a huge deal, but I imagine this might be frustrating if you just need to grab something quick and dash.

                                              3. I noticed Tenoch Mexican is opening in the North End on Lewis St,catty corner from Golden Goose.

                                                The sign says an early Fall opening. This is the space where the clothing shop Ball and Buck used to be (B&B) opened a much larger store in Back Bay.

                                                Small space so I imagine they'll be mostly takeout.

                                                This looks like a branch of Tenoch in Medford; which I haven't tried.

                                                If it's good it will be nice to have another option in the WF/NE

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                                                1. re: 9lives

                                                  the owners of tenoch told me a while ago that they would be opening in the North End. I recommended getting a place with a better kitchen.

                                                2. The Kirkland Tap & Trotter is about three weeks out, so ETA mid-September, according to Tony Maws. I toured the construction site yesterday (photos/story on Eater, if you're interested), and three weeks seems pretty do-able at this point. The walls, floor, and ceiling are close to finished; the bar is in place and being painted; a good deal of equipment is in the kitchen. The space looks nice - nothing too crazy design-wise - and Maws said that he doesn't want people to be like, "Ooooh, who's the architect?" He's more concerned with serving food that's "just good." I have a good feeling about this spot, and I'm looking forward to seeing what he comes up with for a signature hot dog. (Funny - he's apparently not much of a burger guy, despite the Craigie burger success.)

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                                                  1. re: blumiethekoala

                                                    If he comes up with a great hotdog, he will probably grow to resent it's popularity like the Craigie burger and then it will only be served in limited quantities anyway.

                                                    We have high hopes for a walkable, casual neighborhood spot. However we hope it comes without Craigie's pretentious douchey vibe and fanboy servers.

                                                    1. re: Gabatta

                                                      I've reached the point that when I hear one of these guys describe their new spot as "casual" I assume that just means slightly less uppity and still out of the price range I can afford regularly

                                                      1. re: jgg13

                                                        http://cdn1.bostonmagazine.com/wp-con...

                                                        Initial menu posted here. It is definitely a bit pricey compared to Highland Kitchen (with is a nearby comp).

                                                        1. re: Gabatta

                                                          Exactly.

                                                          I'd love to know at what point entrees in the mid-20s became de rigueur for casual neighborhood spots?

                                                          Then again Drink claimed to be catering the the local blue collar workers so who knows.

                                                          1. re: jgg13

                                                            i remember LAUGHING OUT LOUD so hard when i read that about drink/sportello.

                                                            from that menu pricing, looks like he is shooting for $50-$60pp check average. hardly everyday fare for most, sorry.

                                                            1. re: jgg13

                                                              To quote my post from December 2009 on the then-forthcoming Menton:

                                                              ---

                                                              Awesome Moments in Boston Restaurant / Media Hucksterism:

                                                              "We're not looking to reinvent the wheel, just have a really good bar. Construction workers can come have a beer and a shot."

                                                              -- Barbara Lynch, in the Boston Globe prior to Drink's opening, sharing her hopes for its egalitarian appeal.

                                                              "Toro's average check size will be $25, including drinks."

                                                              -- Ken Oringer, in the Globe prior to Toro's opening, telling a whopper.

                                                              "Go to Dallas. Go to Tampa. I go to Tampa once a month because of my Home Shopping Network gig and it's chain city. I don't eat for three days."

                                                              -- Todd English, in Boston Magazine, revealing the altruism behind his empire-building: he wants to rescue people from eating at chain restaurants.

                                                              "I'm sorry, but it's a business, and the people you're going to talk to -- it's all about money."

                                                              -- Dave Andelman, to an audience of Emerson College journalism students, explaining with uncharacteristic candor how the media world works.

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                                                            2. re: Gabatta

                                                              Wow! Every new restaurant in my neck of the woods is a casual joint with special occasion prices. Will just have to eat vicariously through chowhound reviews or take a second mortgage on the house. NAW.... Will just continue to cook at home.

                                                              1. re: Gabatta

                                                                It really is disappointing. But it's not outrageous when you look at what houses are going for in Somerville.

                                                                1. re: Bob Dobalina

                                                                  In fact, I haven't kept up with the price of buying a house here, but it is true that realtors keep calling asking me to list. A quick review of houses for sale in 02143 is eye-opening.

                                                                  As an avid home cook, this is still a great place to live. So many wonderful markets right here. I love this neighborhood and can't imagine living anywhere else just yet.

                                                                  1. re: smtucker

                                                                    Lack of inventory is seriously driving prices up in this area. As on owner I'm not complaining.

                                                                  2. re: Bob Dobalina

                                                                    As a fairly recent homebuyer in the general area (02143, roughly equidistant to bronwyn and trotter) I don't consider it outrageous - I just consider it to be poorly labeled. To me, a casual neighborhood spot in the area is Rf osullivans or bull McCabes. Granted both are also bars and that doesn't need to be the case but I'm talking about that sort of price point.

                                                                    1. re: jgg13

                                                                      I agree. I live in 02143 as well and think it was poorly labeled. It's too bad because I was excited about having another place like Highland Kitchen, which really is a casual neighborhood spot for a nice meal out. I can get a sandwich for $12 or spend $19 on their specials and have a great time. The prices at Tap & Trotter are definitely a once-a-year, special occasion spot for me. And if they are billing that as a "casual, neighborhood" spot then is the ambiance really going to warrant that special occasion meal? I'll be living vivaciously through chowhound reviews as well (and have been for the past 5 years LOL)!

                                                                      1. re: kdemayo

                                                                        It does seem like an interesting trend--casual restaurants with high-end prices. I'm not sure how many such places the area can sustain, though, since most people I know wouldn't be able to spend $100-150 for a meal on a regular basis.

                                                                        1. re: kdemayo

                                                                          Once a year, or once every other visit you would have gone to HK?

                                                                          1. re: Bob Dobalina

                                                                            HK is more of a once or twice a month type place for us...can grab some apps or their excellent veggie burger at the bar if we don't feel like cooking. Or we'll go with friends and sit down and have entrees. Tap and trotter would be more of an anniversary or special occasion meal (based on the prices I'm seeing online).

                                                                        2. re: jgg13

                                                                          agreed. Neither charges $17 for a burger. The late Gargoyles managed a fine burger for $11 which was my "everyday" meal for quite some time.

                                                                          1. re: Parsnipity

                                                                            for a little perspective, morton's charges $17 for its prime burger.

                                                                      2. re: Gabatta

                                                                        Another 02143-er not feeling a $14 carrot salad at a "casual neighborhood place".

                                                                        1. re: LeoLioness

                                                                          we're getting further and further away from casual equating to inexpensive. i was and remain so put-off by places that give me kitchen towels as napkins. it's supposed to look so low-key but it's just cheap and gets lint all over me. blech.

                                                                          then again, pricing is so relative to these chefs. if dinner at the flagship is $100+ pp then dinner for half MUST be "cheap". it's monty-pythonesque, when ya think about it.

                                                                          the menu does look good, but won't be in my regular rotation either.

                                                                          1. re: hotoynoodle

                                                                            We're also much further away from expensive or high-end having much by the way of formality or sense of occasion. Some people just aren't happy unless they can dine while wearing jeans, I guess.

                                                                            1. re: hotoynoodle

                                                                              The damn thing is, dinner at the flagship *isn't* even double -- the prix fixe at Craigie is $67. Three courses at KT&T can easily be $50.

                                                                              1. re: dtremit

                                                                                Well, having now been to KT&T, the difference is that 3 courses there for one person is an absurd amount of food, whereas the prix fixe is intentionally portioned for one person.

                                                                      3. re: Gabatta

                                                                        I've always thought his explanation for the burger's limited availability made eminent sense. If you can't get enough of the right ingredients, that's it for the burger for that day.

                                                                        It's too expensive for me to eat there all that often, but I've certainly never gotten a bad vibe there and always had excellent service. Based on what you say about Craigie, I would be surprised if you like the new place.

                                                                        1. re: CportJ

                                                                          I too think it's the right decision to limit the burger's availability. But I don't agree with the "first-come, first-served" method of doing things. I think he should just raise the price a few bucks. I'm always annoyed when restaurants don't do this.

                                                                          1. re: FinnFPM

                                                                            when you think about it, ANY restaurant dish is 1st-come-1st-served. :)

                                                                            1. re: hotoynoodle

                                                                              Haha. That's very true.

                                                                              What I should have said is that I'm not a fan of the "We're going to make fewer of these than our customers want to buy at this price" plan.

                                                                              1. re: FinnFPM

                                                                                Then you are going to get lots of negative comments on Chowhound about how the mark-up on the burger is outrageous!

                                                                                It's like raising the price of meter or resident parking or using congestion pricing -- makes lots of sense to allocate scarce resources based on price, but people hate it.

                                                                                1. re: FinnFPM

                                                                                  i don't know that a few dollars would tamp down the fire for those burgers and for some who can't afford the full craigie experience it's a nice in the door, i guess.

                                                                                  am suspecting tony kicks himself everyday for creating what became a menu monster.

                                                                                  1. re: hotoynoodle

                                                                                    Well then he should add a few MORE dollars. I haven't been in a while and don't remember what it costs -- $12? $15? -- but I have a hard time believing that charging $20 wouldn't discourage the merely curious from ordering it. Presumably there are plenty of people dumb enough to pay $20 for that thing.

                                                                                    1. re: FinnFPM

                                                                                      It's $17, and worth every penny. Especially with a crispy pig tail appetizer.

                                                                                      1. re: FinnFPM

                                                                                        I thought it was already $21 with bacon and $18-$19 without.

                                                                                        1. re: Gordough

                                                                                          I was looking at the online brunch menu, it's likely that it has gone up and the online menu hasn't been updated. Either way it's a great burger, and worth the money for me.

                                                                            2. re: Gabatta

                                                                              i find the servers at Craigie just fine.

                                                                              I have a hard time not respecting a server; they have a tough job.

                                                                              That said, i dress up more than most people do when going to a restaurant.

                                                                              1. re: cambridgedoctpr

                                                                                I only ate at Craigie once (and it was amazing), but my servers were serioius pros. I've done food service (retired now due to injury) most of my life, and have worked with a lot of wait staff, and the level of professionalism in the Cragie staff was imipressive to me. I do like a bit of no nonsense in my waitstaff though, so it might be my personal prefrence

                                                                            3. re: blumiethekoala

                                                                              The bar was apparently open last night, which they announced via Twitter.

                                                                              1. re: blumiethekoala

                                                                                Walked by today at around 4 and they looked like they were prepping for dinner- place settings were all out and lots of staff around. Not sure if this means they are officially open for meals or if they're still in final prep stages, but either way they are pretty darn close!

                                                                              2. The new "Marketplace" open air shopping center in Lynnfield is finally open. Not everything is open yet (I would say maybe 40% of the stores are open) but the Whole Foods and Davio's definitely are. There's going to be at least half a dozen restaurants in the area when all is said and done...most of the stores that are not opening this weekend are opening in September.

                                                                                Here's a link to the eateries that will be there: http://www.marketstreetlynnfield.com/...

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                                                                                1. re: Ladycale

                                                                                  lady, thx so much for posting this. It would prob be too much to hope for -if the WF ended up being as good as the Fresh Pond WF.............
                                                                                  Have you heard when the Otto's is supposed to open? the link doesn't say. and the JPLicks? thx.

                                                                                2. How 'bout The Beat Hotel in Harvard Sq.- opening September? Beehive 2.

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                                                                                  1. re: Trumpetguy

                                                                                    Do The Bongos know about this?

                                                                                    1. re: Trumpetguy

                                                                                      Beat Hotel opens tonight!

                                                                                      1. re: KaraBaskin

                                                                                        wow, I walked by on Tuesday and it still looked like a construction zone. That is quick work!

                                                                                        1. re: Snowflake

                                                                                          They were still painting today. Would be surprised if they opened tonite. Anyone?

                                                                                          1. re: yumyum

                                                                                            Just came from there! Totally open, music and all. Decent crowd already. Loved the burger.

                                                                                    2. I recently got word that the Friendly Toast was sold but that not much (if anything) is going to change.

                                                                                      Flat Top Johnny's has it's kitchen up and running featuring grass fed burgers, dogs, grilled wings and a few surprises. Johnny is also a little annoyed at the Hungry Mother team for opening up a pinball/pool hall right next door.

                                                                                      Precinct will cease to be a live music venue and will have more of a focused F&B program.

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                                                                                      1. re: Unfoodie

                                                                                        Wow, I'm really surprised about Precinct. I wonder what brought about that decision. Do you know when they'll stop having music? Looks like they haven't booked September at all, except for one weekly residency.

                                                                                        1. re: Unfoodie

                                                                                          Isn't the Friendly Toast sale sort of old news? I could have sworn I read about that in the Globe last year.

                                                                                          I've been meaning to mention the new menu at Flat Top Johnny's. We go quite often to sit on the patio and have a beer with the dog, so they sort of know us. They've made a concerted effort on a couple occassions to say "hey, look at our menu!"

                                                                                          1. re: mkfisher

                                                                                            friendly toast has been for sale for ages, but if this deal is for real, that is indeed news.

                                                                                            how is the food at flat top johnnie's? have only been for drinks and eat elsewhere in kendall. is it on-par with the mediocre brew company? or better?

                                                                                            1. re: hotoynoodle

                                                                                              We still haven't worked up the courage to eat at FTJs. Have seen a few other people having burgers and dogs that look decent.

                                                                                              CBC's food is perfectly acceptable if you stick to the burgers, pizzas etc. They also added a turkey club to the brunch & lunch menus that I really like.

                                                                                              1. re: mkfisher

                                                                                                I actually prefer CBC's specials and main courses. The bar pizza isn't bad, but Emma's and Area Four are so close. Haven't had brunch or lunch. The beer is awesome, so I go more often for a few beers and a snack or growlers to go than to eat dinner.

                                                                                              2. re: hotoynoodle

                                                                                                FTJ would be the last place in 1 kendall that I'd choose to eat. It'd also be the last place I'd choose to do just about anything unless playing pool was the intention.

                                                                                                CBC is better than it used to be (both food & beer, and talking like 10-15 years ago) but "mediocre" is probably the right word there. It's nothing great, but if you stick to certain things it's generally not *bad* either, and the (as of the last several years) good beer options make up for it.

                                                                                                1. re: jgg13

                                                                                                  I stick to my belief that the FTJ patio is very nice. It's much more secluded than the other options, so our dog is able to relax. While the beer options could be better, they still have a very serviceable selection.

                                                                                            2. re: Unfoodie

                                                                                              FTJ's has a brand new kitchen helmed by a recent Blue Room alum. I have yet to indulge (not in the area very often) but the grub did look satisfying esp for a pool hall watering hole.

                                                                                              1. re: Unfoodie

                                                                                                am down there a few times per month for matinees at the kendall. friendly toast not my alley in any way, west bridge is too spendy for some friends and also doesn't do "lunch" on saturdays. while the food at mead hall is pretty good, and the beer selection amazing, the service always, always sucks. a recent visit was the last straw for me. agree cbc has improved over the years, but everything seems like chain food, which is strange since it isn't.

                                                                                                so ftj's may be worth a go. thanks for the heads-up. :)

                                                                                                1. re: hotoynoodle

                                                                                                  I'm curious about your MeadHall comment. What problems did you have?

                                                                                                  I went there pretty frequently while on a job in Kendall in Feb/March -- I stayed at the Residence Inn across the street -- and was generally treated pretty well there. I always ate at the bar, if that makes a difference.

                                                                                                  1. re: brandywiner

                                                                                                    Haven't spent a lot of time at Meadhall, but I've long heard that service is much better at the bar.

                                                                                                    http://mcslimjb.blogspot.com/

                                                                                                    1. re: MC Slim JB

                                                                                                      Good to know, for future reference. Thanks!

                                                                                                      1. re: brandywiner

                                                                                                        i have only eaten at the bar, and have made at least a dozen visits.

                                                                                                        the staff is very personable but overall seems to have trouble multi-tasking and gets overwhelmed with what doesn't appear to me (or my industry friends) as all that many guests. the design of the taps makes it impossible for them to "see" everybody so perhaps this is part of it?

                                                                                                        our last trip a manager finally stepped in to help the girl who was inexplicably weeded, to the point of being breathless, behind the bar and even he was incapable of simply locating salt and pepper for our food. he gave me a grinder clearly marked "cloves". part of our order was forgotten, then came twice. we were surrounded by thirsty people with empty glasses, longing for a next round they couldn't get. the dr was almost empty and the bar about 1/2 full. it was daytime. our empty plates and soiled napkins were still sitting in front of us when we paid and left. we had to beg to get our check, having given up on getting another round of drinks.

                                                                                                        the food is good, the beer selection is excellent. it's too stressful for me to be in an environment where the staff just seems utterly overwhelmed by the slightest bit of business.

                                                                                                        1. re: hotoynoodle

                                                                                                          Wow. Can't blame you for not wanting to deal with situations like that. I've seen a hint of what you descrbe at the bar, but only once or twice (out of maybe 15 visits over two months), and never to anywhere near that extreme. Maybe I got lucky...?

                                                                                                          1. re: brandywiner

                                                                                                            i have only been during the day, so it could be the "b"-level staff, i don't know. but a few recent visits to west bridge were night and day of this. place was VERY busy, yet the bartender was friendly and made sure we knew she was conscious of our needs. she was clearly hustling, but not frazzled. orders all correct and timely, cocktails excellent.

                                                                                                  2. re: hotoynoodle

                                                                                                    Just wondering (can't quite get a clear macro picture) if Atwood's Tavern or Mulan are too far a walk.

                                                                                                    1. re: opinionatedchef

                                                                                                      i guess both are about a 10-minute walk, and just not on my kendall radar. thanks for the ideas. :)

                                                                                                      was just yesterday talking about it with the friend with whom i shared many debacles there. we likened it to being the abused spouse. it happens again and again yet you keep going back hoping it will change "this" time.

                                                                                                2. re: Unfoodie

                                                                                                  Precinct will be done in it's current form by the end of the year. Remodel, new menu, new bar program, new management and possibly even a new name.

                                                                                                3. Mandarin Kitchen opening in Malden, (formerly Abiata) two doors from All Seasons Table. Saw a Bowery St., NYC kitchen appliance company making a delivery today.

                                                                                                  1. A Clover brick and mortar outlet looks close to opening in Brookline Village...Site of the former Papa Gino's Express.

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                                                                                                    1. re: galleygirl

                                                                                                      If you mean the Clover on the same block as Matt Murphy's, that one has been open for a couple of months.

                                                                                                      http://mcslimjb.blogspot.com/

                                                                                                      1. re: MC Slim JB

                                                                                                        I do; but it was new to me, and new to a lot of hounds, I'll bet, since I haven't seen it mentioned, or overlooked it...

                                                                                                    2. Anyone know what happened with Lyndell's on Prospect St? Drove by over the weekend and the store was completely emptied out.

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                                                                                                      1. re: mkfisher

                                                                                                        They couldn't renew the lease - it's rumored to be in Tasty Burger's hands now. The Somerville location will remain open.

                                                                                                        1. re: mkfisher

                                                                                                          Saw an article in the Cambridge Chronicle that Tasty Burger has indeed replaced Lyndells.

                                                                                                          1. re: pickledtink

                                                                                                            It's open?

                                                                                                            1. re: maillard

                                                                                                              Not even close. Building is empty and still says Lyndell's out front

                                                                                                        2. Actually more of an August update, but Deniro's in Cohasset is closed. Looked like they were gutting the building when I drove by yesterday.

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                                                                                                          1. re: jjbourgeois

                                                                                                            A friend sent me a link to their homepage. Not sure when it went up.
                                                                                                            http://www.dinerosdining.com

                                                                                                          2. Tom Yung Koong in Arlington Heights, which was quite tasty, has closed. A new Thai restaurant will open there soon.
                                                                                                            http://www.boston.com/blogs/ae/restau...

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                                                                                                            1. re: KaraBaskin

                                                                                                              According to a neighbor, the owner of Tom Yung Koong sold the Arlington Heights site to an employee, and expects that the new restaurant will have a menu very similar to TYK's.
                                                                                                              The more things change . . .

                                                                                                            2. I just read in our local newspaper that Sushi Island is closing this week.

                                                                                                              1. Just heard that Darwin's has a permit application for 313 Mass. Ave. in Central Square, Cambridge. According to Google, that is the address for Royal Bengal. Anyone know if they are moving or closing?

                                                                                                                1. I went to Kaya earlier for my probably last hwedeopbap of the year, and it was closed and more. The insides looked like a scene after a zombie uprising or drunken frat party or both - missing/upturned furniture, bottle caps strewn all over the floor, big hole in the floor of the middle of the restaurant. just a giant mess. No sign of any sort on the door.

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                                                                                                                  1. re: lossless

                                                                                                                    Kaya in Porter Square?

                                                                                                                    1. re: hiddenboston

                                                                                                                      Yes.

                                                                                                                    2. re: lossless

                                                                                                                      I spoke to the Buk Kyung woman. A hotel is going to be built where Kaya is currently at. She said she heard a restaurant will be rebuilt either at or near the hotel to serve the hotel guests. It sounded like it will still be Korean (she mentioned grills for meat) but not 100% sure.

                                                                                                                      1. re: lossless

                                                                                                                        Wow, that's big news...and a hotel is actually really needed in that area of Cambridge.

                                                                                                                        1. re: Bob Dobalina

                                                                                                                          Google turned up this, from July:

                                                                                                                          http://www.wickedlocal.com/cambridge/...

                                                                                                                        2. re: lossless

                                                                                                                          Whoa!! That's the last thing I expected. Crazy. And yes, as Bob says, a hotel in that area is much needed. Most tourists I know either stay out of town and commute in, stay in a crazy-expensive Harvard hotel, or try to find a B&B.

                                                                                                                          1. re: Boston_Otter

                                                                                                                            I doubt a hotel in that location will be much cheaper than the ones near Harvard.

                                                                                                                            1. re: Gabatta

                                                                                                                              This has been a plan for years --- at least four or five years if I recall correctly.

                                                                                                                      2. 28 Degrees is officially done. Cant tell my source, but they are no longer open (for good)

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                                                                                                                        1. re: meeps2002

                                                                                                                          no worry about the source...this is on the door this morning

                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                          1. re: meeps2002

                                                                                                                            It's about time. They've been on the watch list for years. I now someone who was offered the space 3yrs ago.

                                                                                                                          2. I was driving down Harvard Street and noticed a sign for Bibim, next door to Hanmarru. It looks newly open, obviously Korean. Has anyone checked it out or know anything about it? Lots of Korean in that stretch!

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                                                                                                                            1. re: Stride

                                                                                                                              Went there Friday for lunch. According to the waitress they have been open for 9 years. Just took over the space next door and renovated. Had the bi bim bap. Not too knowledgeable about Korean food, but everything tasted great and was fresh.

                                                                                                                              1. re: gutterman

                                                                                                                                Color was/is in that space - have they renamed themselves Bibim?

                                                                                                                                1. re: Allstonian

                                                                                                                                  Yeah, there's a sign that says something like "from Color"

                                                                                                                                  1. re: Luther

                                                                                                                                    I saw that today (crawling in traffic again) - fine print says "formerly Color"

                                                                                                                            2. Souper Salad this morning, 3 of the 4 employees had Fresh City shirts on - Curious if there's some sort of slow transition going on here? (unless of course I missed an earlier post on this)

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                                                                                                                              1. re: meeps2002

                                                                                                                                souper salad near copley? where else do they still exist?

                                                                                                                                1. re: hotoynoodle

                                                                                                                                  Yes - in the same Building as Fire & Ice. I dont know if it's anything, but I thought it was interesting they were in different uniforms

                                                                                                                                  1. re: hotoynoodle

                                                                                                                                    There's one in the Shapiro building of the Beth Isreal Deacoess Medical Center, corner of Longwood and Brookline aves. I work in the building. I actually started boycotting them about 2 1/2 years ago due to their high prices, and increasingly smaller portions, but ate there today as I didn't want to venture out in the 90 degree heat. Meh, as usual. They are affiliated with Fresh Wraps, but I didn't notice what folks were wearing there when I ate lunch.

                                                                                                                                  2. re: meeps2002

                                                                                                                                    It's my understanding that Fresh City and Souper Salad are the same company and have been since at least the late 90s. So perhaps just corporate types helping out?

                                                                                                                                  3. Cognac Bistro, Brookline, closing Sept 22.

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                                                                                                                                    1. re: elarbe

                                                                                                                                      per Eater:

                                                                                                                                      "Ater Cognac Bistro closes at the end of this month (owner Nelson Cognac will be moving to and opening a restaurant in Vermont), it will become an outpost of Quincy-based Indian restaurant Sher-A-Punjab. Wicked Local Brookline reports the town's Board of Selectmen have approved a restaurant and liquor license, though the website appears to erroneously refer to the restaurant as "Shan-A-Punjab." The menu in Quincy includes standard fare found in most Indian restaurants. However, it also highlights a "modern Indian" section which includes dishes unusual to the cuisine such as pork vindaloo and tandoori duck masala."

                                                                                                                                      1. re: Gabatta

                                                                                                                                        Any idea where the Vermont restaurant will be?

                                                                                                                                        1. re: CportJ

                                                                                                                                          Last I heard (a few months back), it'll be near Jay Peak and called Big Jay Tavern.

                                                                                                                                          1. re: blumiethekoala

                                                                                                                                            That's good because Jay needs a place or two to eat. I love how Jay is a skiers' mountain (as opposed to Killington, which is basically a pickup joint that's at an angle), but it does feel a bit too quiet at times.

                                                                                                                                          2. re: CportJ

                                                                                                                                            Exact address and some details in this thread http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/9046...

                                                                                                                                            1. re: Gabatta

                                                                                                                                              Oh, wow, thanks, that's very cool to hear. Glad I found out before ski season!

                                                                                                                                          3. re: Gabatta

                                                                                                                                            is it just me or does this sound really weird? a Caucasian opening a franchise of a Quincy Indian restnt..... in VT? and an Indian restnt w/ a name as horrible as that one? (And yes, a Caucasian did open A Single Pebble in Burlington, which still exists, but he didn't come from Cognac Bistro .) Just a hunch, but i'm guessing chef cognac will be moving on to some other place rather quickly.

                                                                                                                                            1. re: opinionatedchef

                                                                                                                                              It's the Brookline Cognac Bistro space that's becoming the franchise of a Quincy Indian restaurant, not Cognac's new place in Vermont.

                                                                                                                                              1. re: blumiethekoala

                                                                                                                                                What? An Irish pub version of In-N-Out Burger is opening at Jay Peak, which will now be part of Brookline? :-b

                                                                                                                                              2. re: opinionatedchef

                                                                                                                                                How did you get to there from that paragraph?

                                                                                                                                                An Indian restaurant is replacing Cognac Bistro in Brookline. Nelson Cognac is NOT opening an Indian restaurant in Vermont.

                                                                                                                                                1. re: Jenny Ondioline

                                                                                                                                                  must be the detached retina i guess (

                                                                                                                                          4. This has never been a location of great promise, but at Packards Corner, the long-shuttered former space of Allston Village Pizza and Subs is undergoing construction of some type. We'll see.

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                                                                                                                                            1. re: Jenny Ondioline

                                                                                                                                              Also noticed last night: Cafe Japonaise on Commonwealth Avenue has closed - I have no idea when that happened.

                                                                                                                                              1. re: Allstonian

                                                                                                                                                At least a month ago. I was going to post it, but I figured it had been posted in here, and I didn't feel like looking through the whole thread to insure it had.

                                                                                                                                                1. re: kimfair1

                                                                                                                                                  I WOULD have said 'what a shame' if i weren't still resenting them for having changed and screwed up the recipe of their formerly ethereal adzuki creams(my formerly fav pastry in Boston.)

                                                                                                                                            2. Patty Chen'sDumpling Room is days away from opening to the public. Their FB page welcomed friends and family

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                                                                                                                                              1. re: Snowflake

                                                                                                                                                http://www.dumplingroom.com/

                                                                                                                                                gee, i got all excited and then i looked at the boring boring menu. maybe it's just for opening; i sure hope so. i mean it's not like it's complicated a la minute cooking ( the dumplings are all made in advance.) The website does mention changing items.........

                                                                                                                                              2. Just read that Plaza Azteca just opened recently. It went into the old Chili's at Queen Anne's Corner in Hingham. Has anyone gone yet-I think its Tex-Mex. We are going to try and head over there tomorrow night.

                                                                                                                                                Hingham Foodie posted this on FB
                                                                                                                                                https://www.facebook.com/HinghamFoodie

                                                                                                                                                <<Plaza Azteca Hingham is OPEN! This is the Mexican Restaurant that replaced Chili's. Here are a few facts to get you acquainted with the area's newest Mex food!
                                                                                                                                                1. They will make your guacamole tableside.
                                                                                                                                                2. Everything, including the tortillas, is made fresh in house
                                                                                                                                                3. This is a small, family-owned restaurant chain, 3 restaurants located in MA, and 3 in CT.
                                                                                                                                                4. The family is originally from Mexico.
                                                                                                                                                5. The Hingham restaurant has a different menu than the rest of the restaurants. We have the new menu. All the other restaurants will eventually adopt this menu. Definitely more seafood.
                                                                                                                                                So, go enjoy some new Mexican!!!>>

                                                                                                                                                1. Anyone know what's up with Amelia's in Teele Square? Papered over windows with a work permit posted I think.

                                                                                                                                                  1. Opening today:
                                                                                                                                                    Kate's Table in Hingham
                                                                                                                                                    Whole Foods in Arlington

                                                                                                                                                    1. Any word on Sarma yet?

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                                                                                                                                                      1. re: addiez

                                                                                                                                                        Went to Oleana this week and everything was a bit off, which made me think that they must be busy working on sarma.

                                                                                                                                                        1. re: Bob Dobalina

                                                                                                                                                          I've been once when everything...especially the seared scallops...was a bit off, and Ana was not there. I am going next week for the first time in a long time....do you have any particular recs? We are doing meze and dessert only.

                                                                                                                                                          1. re: Madrid

                                                                                                                                                            I have had hits and misses at Oleana. I had a few disappointing visits where the flavors were a bit muddled, or there were just too many competing flavors stressing out my mouth. I have taken to ordering the vegetable plate there. The plate is different from the vegetarian tasting menu, and I believe it is not generally listed on the menu. It is worth requesting though, and always a incredible tasting and hearty mix of vegetables. I think I get myself in trouble when I try to make up an order from their menu. I've never been disappointed with the vegetable plate though.

                                                                                                                                                            I am happy to go there once in awhile or when someone else selects it, however it is not somewhere I actively seek (particularly in the winter). The garden is one of the nicest al fresco places around this time of year, but I really hate sitting inside. I find the space uncomfortable and not at all conducive to conversation or lingering. It is too bad you can't make reservations for the garden space, as it is really like night and day.

                                                                                                                                                            1. re: Gabatta

                                                                                                                                                              thanks. I will ask for the veg plate. The garden is really magical and the inside seats in the bar way too bright and uncomfortable. The tables inside are so close together. Once someone going to sit next to our table managed to knock over 6 glasses of cava. But I still love the meze, spinach falafel, that braised short rib, and I want the octopus!

                                                                                                                                                              1. re: Madrid

                                                                                                                                                                The quail was pretty yummy, if rather straightforward. I feel like they have removed a few spots from the dining room, at least while the patio is open.

                                                                                                                                                              2. re: Gabatta

                                                                                                                                                                the rear room that looks out on the garden is WAY better than the other rooms (i also really dislike the space and 'decor' . how can a cuisine that exciting be represented by a design that boring/lifeless?)

                                                                                                                                                                if her tuna kibbeh is on the menu, it is my fav. And last yr we had an amazing dessert w/ sesame components.(i did a CH post)

                                                                                                                                                          2. re: addiez

                                                                                                                                                            I was at Oleana Tuesday...enjoyed a wonderful burrata and fried green tomato special and the tomato flatbread....we sat at the bar and the guy told us they are aiming for October opening...no specific date...

                                                                                                                                                          3. Arthur's Pastry Shop in West Medford is opening tomorrow. Its on High Street next to Jimmy's pizza near the Citizens back. Note that the Arthur's in South Medford says they do make their own cannoli shells.

                                                                                                                                                            It looks open, but not 100% certain. The Somerville Cafe and Pastelaria has replaced Gol Market on Mystic Ave. I would assume its a Brazilian snack place. Its located between Temple and Rt 28, in the same plaza as a laundromat and "entertainment" store.

                                                                                                                                                            1. tornado restaurant and lounge is opening in the old guadalajara mexican grill location on florence street in malden. the sign says "asian inspired tapas"

                                                                                                                                                              1. Nothing's going to be ready this month, obviously, but I noticed while walking home from voting yesterday that there is movement afoot in the former Cafe Brazil space on Cambridge St. in Allston. I can only hope it lives up to the previous tenant, which was always one of my favorite restaurants in the neighborhood.

                                                                                                                                                                1. French Memories in the center of Sharon will be closing at the end of the month. Would LOVE to see a satellite location of Wards Berry Farm or Crescent Ridge move to this location. The employee I spoke to said the building owner was discussing putting a fast-food Chinese place in there. I hope not. There's no kitchen there so all the food would have to be brought in or microwaved.

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                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: fishtankmedia

                                                                                                                                                                    Oh, weird...I can't really picture anything there aside from a coffee shop (especially not fast-food Chinese). When I was in high school, it was Starbucks, which worked well for the spot. A Wards or Crescent Ridge satellite would be pretty cool. (I grew up down the street from Crescent Ridge, and my parents are still in the same house, but I'm up in Somerville now.)

                                                                                                                                                                  2. West Bridge opened their patio bar yesterday.

                                                                                                                                                                    1. I walked by Volle Nolle earlier today and it was closed!!!!! I just did a search and found no mention about it here. Was this a surprise? It was to me. My mouth is very sad.

                                                                                                                                                                      There is a new place called "tastings" or something like that moving in.

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                                                                                                                                                                      1. re: Alcachofa

                                                                                                                                                                        I went by there last month looking for a chicken cutlet sandwich and was disappointed as well. I think that Tastings is the permanent location of some previous pop up place. I am beginning to think that all the food trucks and pop ups are just a runway to permanent restaurants. I want my Volle Nolle sandwiches back...

                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: Gabatta

                                                                                                                                                                          It's called Whisk, and it was indeed a pop-up first. Has anyone been to the new permanent location? I'm pretty sure it's been open for a bit. I know some folks on the board liked it when it was a pop-up.

                                                                                                                                                                          1. re: Gabatta

                                                                                                                                                                            Seriously, the veal pastrami was outstanding, so sad

                                                                                                                                                                        2. The Volle Nolle news reminded me that the White Hen Pantry on Hanover is no more. I guess the whole chain got bought by 7/11. Sounds like they're going to bring in a new staff and eliminate the deli section (which was better than it needed to be).

                                                                                                                                                                          1. Rumor has it Fritz is closing soon in the south end. Martini bar concept when/if it reopens

                                                                                                                                                                            1. Cambridge Spirits (Package store) opened up in the new Watermark building in Kendall.

                                                                                                                                                                              RJ Gourmet, a really great cafe, closed Friday in East Cambridge.

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                                                                                                                                                                              1. re: Matt H

                                                                                                                                                                                Oh, no, that's horrible about RJ Gourmet! Any idea why? That was one of the highlights of that whole stretch of Cambridge St.

                                                                                                                                                                                Cambridge Spirits looks nice, has what looked to be a strong, well-curated selection and will undoubtedly do well filling that niche in that location, especially once Nookie opens Commonwealth once door and the liquor store is paired with the market, but is certainly nothing to write home about beyond that in terms of price or anything.

                                                                                                                                                                                1. re: CportJ

                                                                                                                                                                                  The person behind RJ Gourmet decided not to renew the lease.

                                                                                                                                                                              2. Might have already been posted - but a source told me Sibling Rivalry will definitely become a Barcelona Wine Bar.

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                                                                                                                                                                                1. re: meeps2002

                                                                                                                                                                                  I've asked them twice and they've deflected my question both times, by the way. :-)