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JudiAU Jun 3, 2013 11:29 AM

Usually I am all butter, all the time but I have a few recipes that require oil instead. In the past I've ignored the "canola oil conspirancists" but I am happy to be persuaded to something else.

  1. greygarious Jun 3, 2013 03:01 PM

    I like to use virgin coconut oil in crusts and for crisp cookies, because it liquefies at 78F but is very firm when cooler. This prevents the sogginess that develops in leftovers after a day or so. Feel free to sub it for part or all of whatever other fats you use. It does impart a very slight coconut flavor.

    When using coconut oil you need to take the chill off other ingredients, or it will form hard clumps in the batter/dough.

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      pitterpatter Jun 6, 2013 05:24 AM

      Ditto on the coconut oil for cookies and also brownies. For cakes, I use extra virgin olive oil, walnut oil, hazelnut oil, or almond oil. These may change the flavor profile of certain recipes, but in my experience, always for the better. For pie crusts, butter only -- the best, unsalted butter I can find, but I think I will try coconut oil the next time I make a crust or shortbread.

      These ingredients can be quite expensive, and I am quite poor, but this is how I spend my money as it is simply my priority. After all I have read about how canola, soybean, and other refined oils are processed and what goes into them, all I can say is "eeew."

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        PesachBenSchlomo Jun 7, 2013 06:12 AM

        Unfortunately you never know what oil you are really getting when you use olive oil. The more well-known the brand, the more likely it is adulterated. That leaves only the option of buying from small producers, and I don't have the budget for that. It's quite upsetting. Italy, especially, has a very corrupt system.

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          youareabunny Jun 9, 2013 04:53 PM

          I've heard the same! You can't win...

    2. chefj Jun 3, 2013 03:04 PM

      Any neutral flavored oil will work. i.e. Safflower, Soy, Corn etc....

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        teezeetoo Jun 3, 2013 07:51 PM

        I think grapeseed oil subs in very well when you need a neutral flavor and a high temperature tolerance.

        1. Caitlin McGrath Jun 3, 2013 08:47 PM

          I use grapeseed or, more recently, organic sunflower oil for a neutral oil. A fruity olive oil is actually quite nice in some cakes, too.

          1. ipsedixit Jun 3, 2013 09:01 PM

            need to know what you are making

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              ePressureCooker Jun 6, 2013 12:17 AM

              ipsedixit is right, it depends on the context (what you are making). I read one cookbook that had a lot of historical information regarding US baking, (Baking in America) and it said that adding oil to certain baked goods, sponge cakes, for example, is a fairly recent invention (1920s), and was done because it made the end product more tender.

              For a number of recipes, I use unsweetened applesauce instead of oil. Its far healthier, and the end product is often tastier, with a little bit of apple sweetness.

              But it depends on context.

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                paulj Jun 6, 2013 08:20 AM

                Refined neutral tasting oils are relatively recent invention, so the 1920s time frame for using them in baked goods makes sense.

                Chiffon cake the best example of a cake that depends on oil for its characteristics. Its history is well documented. (invented in 1927, publicized in 1948)
                http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiffon_...

                My mom used oil in baking, but most of her recipes were from magazines and Wesson oil ads, not cookbooks.

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                  ePressureCooker Jun 6, 2013 12:29 PM

                  Interesting. That Wikipedia article references the same inventor that Baking in America mentioned with respect to sponge cakes. ;D

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                    paulj Jun 6, 2013 12:44 PM

                    I believe Chiffon falls under the sponge cake umbrella.

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                JudiAU Jun 6, 2013 02:20 PM

                It is usually a carrot cake or gingerbread or muffin.

                I don't want to use GMOs but the Safflower and nut oils might work. No allergies here.

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                  ePressureCooker Jun 6, 2013 04:04 PM

                  For carrot cake and muffin, you might want to experiment with substituting equal amounts of unsweetened applesauce in place of the oil. In my experience, does an equally good job keeping the baked goods moist, and IMHO even improves the flavor. Has the added benefit of reducing calories, as well.

                  However, I don't know if I'd try the applesauce substitution for gingerbread. My sister is really into nutrition (owning 1,000 nutrition books kind of into nutrition) and she's fanatical about avoiding GMOs. Corn is the WORST according to her, so you'd want to avoid corn oil, canola oil, and regular vegetable oil, because they all contain varying amounts of corn oil. IIRC, she uses a lot of coconut oil for non-cooking purposes, and grapeseed oil and safflower oil for cooking and baking.

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                    paulj Jun 6, 2013 06:08 PM

                    My experience with a pumpkin bread recipe is that the fat, whether creamed butter, melted butter, or oil, is not that critical. I have made the recipe without any oil and it turned out fine, though I do usually use a quarter cup or so of canola (for a 2 loaf recipe).

              3. Melanie Wong Jun 3, 2013 10:58 PM

                My mother makes a light crust for chiffon pies using vegetable oil. Over the years she has tried corn oil, unspecified vegetable oil, and peanut oil. The peanut oil gives the best result with richer flavor and flakier texture.

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                  laraffinee Jun 3, 2013 11:05 PM

                  When a baking recipe calls for oil, I usually use Almond oil. It works very well and has a neutral flavor.

                  1. Ruthie789 Jun 4, 2013 03:18 AM

                    i like sunflower oil. I find it is light in color and taste. I do not like canola oil at all.

                    1. ElsieB Jun 4, 2013 04:09 AM

                      When it is something special, I use hazelnut oil. OW, grapeseed or almond oil. I would be interested to learn how the world has been hoodwinked into accepting canola as a 'healthy' alternative! nasty stuff.

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                        HillJ Jun 4, 2013 04:41 AM

                        Some time back I was turned onto grapeseed oil for baking and I became a big fan.

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                          Ruthie789 Jun 4, 2013 03:10 PM

                          It has been marketed as such. The cooking shows always push it on TV.

                        2. firecooked Jun 5, 2013 08:42 PM

                          I use a neutral oil for making granola and muffins. My preference is walnut oil, as my impression is that it's not as unhealthy as some of the other oils. But since I need to trek to whole foods to get if, I often use peanut oil. Trader Joes is now carrying rice bran oil... Has anyone tried that? Is it any less processed or have other health attributes?

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                            escondido123 Jun 6, 2013 08:12 AM

                            My banana bread recipe calls for one T of oil--walnut oil works great and adds a nice bit of flavor since the recipe also calls for walnuts.

                            1. dave_c Jun 6, 2013 08:32 AM

                              For quick breads where recipes call for up to a cup of oil, I generally use what I can find in the supermarket - corn, vegetable (soybean) or canola.

                              For greasing a baking dish, I just use PAM.

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                                youareabunny Jun 6, 2013 12:56 PM

                                I've read so much about how some oils are terrible and some are not. I remember when saturated fats were the main issue and now there are trans fats, mono/poly unsaturated fats, processing and whatever else to consider. So I really don't know what to think!!

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