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collioure May 31, 2013 03:53 AM

It's time of the year when my wine cave is a bit depleted and I start to think of the next round of purchases.

The 2012 Beaujolais crop was about half of normal, and the bottle of nouveau I won at bridge had such a bitter finish that I am thinking of stocking up on 2010-11's and skipping the 2012 vintage.

I expect I will again buy Fleurie Déduits, Juliénas Capitans and Cote-de-Brouilly Riaz. Here the Clos de la Roile was recommended but it's not really a Fleurie. I'm looking for better wine from these three preferred districts. I am not finding much that is better except Thivin in Cote-de-Brouilly but is it worth twice the price and more?

Comments?

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    zin1953 May 31, 2013 06:29 AM

    No.

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      Klunco May 31, 2013 07:23 AM

      I've enjoyed the '11 Thivin and it's good certainly, but not so remarkable that's it's worth twice the others.

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        jock May 31, 2013 09:00 AM

        I find Jean Foillard's Morgons to be among the very best bojos in any given vintage and worth whatever price differential there may be.

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          Klunco May 31, 2013 09:32 AM

          Agreed. Also, the Lapierre "Morgon," and anything from either Thevenet (Jean Paul or Charles).

          But OP was looking for Fleurie, Julienas, and Cote-de-Brouillys only. Of these, I tend to have the most luck in Cote-de-Brouillys.

          I've often found Fleuries the most overpriced (a relative term considering we're discussing cru-Beaujolais) because it's often the only cru people know and is especially popular in England.

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            jock May 31, 2013 10:04 AM

            "But OP was looking for Fleurie, Julienas, and Cote-de-Brouillys only" --- Can't help myself since I am most fond of Morgon.

            Agree Lapierre is also excellent.

            Georges Viornery makes very fine Cote-de-Brouilly.

            Also tasted a very nice 2011 Ch des Labourons, Fleurie from Henri Fessy last week.

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              collioure May 31, 2013 11:51 AM

              Thank you. Viorney looks like a great recommendation.

              Apparently Dom. Viornery is Thivin's nieghbor on Mt Brouilly and the wines are modestly priced. Georges retired in 2009 and Nicole? is listed in charge now. ** and a coup de coeur from Hachette for the 2008.

              But who's minding the store now?

              Well, I'll be looking into this. We drink about three cases of excellent Buajolais cru every year. Great with salmon and tuna, though I opened a Santenay tonight.

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                penthouse pup May 31, 2013 12:06 PM

                JP Brun's Terres Dorees Cote de Brouilly are consistently very good...

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                  collioure May 31, 2013 01:37 PM

                  A second excellent idea, but his wine is expensive.

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                    wally May 31, 2013 02:20 PM

                    I have had a good bottle from Chignard but I am pretty sure it was expensive.

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                      collioure May 31, 2013 03:00 PM

                      Yes, expensive but excellent Fleuries.

                      Chez-Viornery on Mt Brouilly Nicole is Georges' wife.

                      Also will be looking at JC Nesme Domaine de Grandes Vignes there.

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                        collioure Jun 10, 2013 01:49 AM

                        Domaine Viornery was sold to Domaine Gilbert Chetaille, possibly not as talented a winemaker as Viornery because I find no positive press in his name.

        2. Robert Lauriston Jun 10, 2013 09:15 AM

          I went to a huge Beaujolais tasting in San Francisco last November. My favorite was the 2011 PUR Morgon Côte du Py. Same vineyard as the Foillard, which was also in the tasting.

          Some of the 2012 nouveaus in the tasting were as good as any I've had, so I wouldn't write off the vintage.

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            collioure Jun 10, 2013 01:57 PM

            Thank you, but I do not buy the weightier crus.

            And if I know I can count on the 2010's and 2011's, why should I take a chance on the 2012's?

            BTW I actually tried two 2012 nouveau's. I thought DuBoeuf's was very good at midnight on the Wednesday, but when I took a second DuBoeuf bottle I won on a picnic a week later, I stopped serving it because the finish was so bitter and I brought it home to the vinegar pot.

            Once again I confess to being a vintage freak. I still remember 1984. I was in Burgundy during the rainy harvest. And a couple of years later we went on spring vacation in Guadeloupe. Sure enough they had lots of 1984's!

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              Robert Lauriston Jun 10, 2013 02:05 PM

              I wouldn't call the PUR Côte du Py weighty. Or are you talking about price?

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                wally Jun 10, 2013 02:38 PM

                The Pur I purchased was not weighty in price. I did have some problem with one of my bottles but in general they were quite good. I thought that the Foillard that I purchased was better, though.

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                  collioure Jun 10, 2013 02:51 PM

                  I have always considered Morgon and Moulin-a-Vent to be the weightier crus, the ones that come around a little later, and Chiroubles to be the lightest, and I have never gone near St-Amour or Regnié. I have settled in on Juliénas, Fleurie and Cote-de-Brouilly as a nice varied trio of wines that I can drink three months after delivery.

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              collioure Jun 10, 2013 02:05 PM

              A big thank you to those who encouraged me to look into Beaujolais crus from someone other than DuBeouf. I am about to order the Cote-de-Brouilly's of JC Nesme (Domaine des Grandes Vignes).

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                collioure Jan 28, 2014 02:03 PM

                I just opened my first bottle of Cote-de-Brouilly Vieilles Vignes 2011 from JC Nesme (Domaine des Grandes Vignes). Oh-so goooood. Much better than Dom de Riaz. Almost chewy (for a Gamay).

                Once again thanks to those who encouraged me to look around.

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