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Masterchef 5/29

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  1. Referring to Howard?

    Have to say - not at all sad to see Sasha leave. Although perhaps a twofer was warranted to send both her and Howard home. I think they realize (hope?) that Howard isn't a one-trick pony.

    I think Jessie is a dark horse. She impressed during auditions and she's a team leader for next week's challenge. Glad Jordan pulled it out as well.

    There was some definite "overplating" going on in the MC Kitchen before they winnowed it down to the Final 19. What's with all of the polka dots on the plates? Less is more, people!

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    1. re: LindaWhit

      I was surprised Sasha made either cut. I assume it was for her "drama." Already tired of people claiming they "hate" other contestants. (already?) Did not enjoy seeing the Monti Carlo rip off with bangs and big glasses getting past the gal who looked to have a much nicer dish. (why would someone rip off Monti? Pick a good chef!)

      1. re: Firegoat

        Oh, come on. Blunt-cut bangs and glasses happen to be in right now, it doesn't mean she's ripping off another contestant. If there's anything to criticize her about, it's that she called the fancy kitchen "picturesque."

        I'm with you on the "hate" comments though. Ridiculous.

        1. re: piccola

          Okay, maybe I am inclined to think it is "schtick" when all her modeling photos where she's trying to get TV and modeling jobs show her with a different style and much more glamorously dressed. I don't think someone that is a world traveler trying to break into the work of acting and modeling would deliberately go "mousy" clothing-wise and wear crooked big glasses with out it being an attempt to fit a "type" for the show. (I really want to straighten her glasses. Pet peeve of mine.) We've got the big lovable jock type, the model type, the food photographer (Lynn), the asshole.. so many roles to fill.

          1. re: Firegoat

            I have a theory and I don't think it's far-fetched.

            I know that there are agencies that place people on these shows. We also know that there are coaches to work with contestants in beauty pageants.

            My theory is that there are "coaches" out there who get paid to train people in how to get selected for this kind of reality TV and then how to present themselves/behave on the show to get the maximum air time.

            Can anyone say if you know this to be true? Do you have any person experience? Anecdotes?

            1. re: chicgail

              I'd be surprised if it weren't true for some of them. Not contestants but managers should be looking for opportunities like this for their clients. Like a stager for reality stars! There are people who do it for clients going to court--make sure they look the part.

              1. re: chowser

                Reading Ben Starr (forget which seasons) blog pretty much tells it like it is as much as he could say. I think someone linked to it below. Lots of really good cooks that are cut out and lots of "characters" that go through. Which makes sense. In the elimination before the final they kept bringing up people by twos and eliminating one of the two. Makes no sense to do it that way because a lot of better chefs would be knocked out and crappy dishes get through just because the person they were called with was tougher. I've had fun googling some of these people on the current season. Some like Sasha are looking to get on pretty much any TV show, others obviously have agents, have set up professional websites are models or are chefs. Some aren't on the radar at all. Krissi seems to be one of those. She's either exactly who she says she is and doesn't have an agent or she's hiding her tracks very very well.

        2. re: Firegoat

          I was also glad to see her go. She vaguely reminded me of another lady on "worst cooks" who apparently wanted to take Ramsey home with her. Enough with the eyelash blinking, really. And yes, you "hate" someone? I'm past my mid-century, and I don't thing I've ever said I "hate" someone, and certainly not someone I've known for minutes or hours.

          1. re: DGresh

            Ramsey's not on worst cooks, though its up his ally for sure. Maybe she wanted to take Ann home!

            I so agree with you about the ridiculous hate chatter. They've known each other for like 15 minutes.

            It very much cheapens the show. As does giving your opponent the finger repeatedly.

            I'd much rather watch 20 Christines compete against each other based in cooking and not coarse thug drama.

            1. re: C. Hamster

              they actually have known each other a while... this blog of a girl who didn't make the first cut was there for a week getting to know others.

              http://www.celebrationgeneration.com/...

              she also has an entry from ben starr, who was on 2 years ago, that is interesting.

              "It’s been 2 years since I found myself locked in a hotel room in Los Angeles, unable to leave without a babysitter, unable to connect to the outside world (including family, friends, and career.) Awake at 5am every morning and hustled into a cold van, driven to a grimy warehouse where I’d sit outside in a tent for 3 hours.

              Every 10 minutes, a production assistant would come by and say, “5 minute warning, everyone. On-set in 5 minutes.” That warning would be repeated for many hours to come. Then suddenly a cry, “EVERYONE ON SET NOW!” Hustlebustle. And we’re herded in front of Ramsay, Bastianich, and Elliot to begin the 8-hour process of filming a 1-hour challenge. Then it’s back to being locked in a hotel room for a few hours of desperate sleep before the process repeated. Every day. Without stopping. For 2 months. Making MasterChef. Season 2.

              On May 22, MasterChef season 4 will commence. And in a scant 3 hours of broadcasting, the lives of 100 contestants will flash before your eyes.Within 3 hours of programming, more than 80% of them will be gone forever,and only a tiny core of contestants will remain for the bulk of the season."

              1. re: C70

                Sounds delightful. Remind me to audition for the next season. Wait. On second thought, my view of the TV screen is more than sufficient.

                1. re: chicgail

                  I went to the NYC open call last November...it was quite an experience and sure showed how much of everything is staged right from the get-go.

                  For what it's worth, I made it past the first cut which is based on your food and initial impression from the casting crew...that was when it got real interesting and you could see what they were going for - drama potential and NOT whether you were one of the "100 Best Home Cooks in America". Lots of people seemed to be wanna-be actors or have some connections in the industry (food or entertainment...take your pick or both). Certainly the ones who were put on the call-back list at that point seemed to largely fit that description...

              2. re: C. Hamster

                You're right, it was Bobby Flay she wanted to take home.

              3. re: DGresh

                yes, she did remind of the woman on "worst cooks" she was making all kinds of sexual remarks to Bobby Flay. I thought Egads if that was a man acting that way with Giada or even a young sexy woman acting that way with Bobby there would be a Sexual Harrasment posse of woman's rights activest screammmming. It was shameful and humilating the way exploited her.

                As far as Krissy with her "she hhhhaaaates me" please Her realhousewife mentality has given her twisted sense of self importance and lust for conflict

            2. re: LindaWhit

              humiliating because of how Joe treats the contestants, he is a such a ****

              I wonder if mama is like that as well

              1. re: madeliner

                I was extra annoyed when he called out the boxer for putting up a dish that was apparently too sophisticated to really reflect his personality. So condescending! What, because he's a jock he can't possibly appreciate refined dishes? Shouldn't the fact that he pulled it off be proof enough?

                He keeps telling people to cook from their roots, but then he criticizes the Italian guy for cooking Italian food. (And anyway, doesn't Joe pretty much cook Italian food all the time?)

                1. re: piccola

                  The whole "put yourself on a plate" is ridiculous. I want good food. I don't want the chef and where he/she is from on a plate.I don't care. Joe was a jerk for grilling the boxer on his dish not being authentic to who he is. Who cares where he learned the techniques or got the ideas??? Reseach/learning is a good thing.

                  I thought the same thing about his then turning around and complaining that Italian guy only made Italian. What would he have said if the guy had made Chinese???

                  1. re: chowser

                    Exactly! I wish they'd just judge the food on its merits instead of relying on stereotypes about who the contestants "are."

                    1. re: piccola

                      Looks like Ms. Sasha Foxx has been working the TV game for a while. Ricki Lake show, Judge Christina Perez, America's Got Talent, and the Jeff Probst show. You can see all her videos of appearances on YouTube.

                      1. re: Firegoat

                        yep.
                        felix was and actress last year too
                        Monti was a stand up comic
                        it is kind of disheartning when you find out how many of them are more likely to come from an agency than from a cooking school.

                        1. re: girloftheworld

                          And if you buy what this website is selling, Jessie was actually a professional chef not just a "stewardess" (also a runner up for Miss Georgia)

                          1. re: Firegoat

                            I am going to have to call it a night.. cooking contest arent real... and on another thread I learned if you cook good other people wont invite you to their parties :( must go watch Ratoullie and eat leftover tres leches cake

            3. I was glad that guy with the crazy eyes got cut. I thought they'd keep him around for the drama factor.

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              1. re: chefhound

                Ahh, yes - forgot Crazy Eyes Roadkill Guy. He didn't even make it through the first in-kitchen cut, thankfully.

                1. re: LindaWhit

                  AS soon as he started talking shit about the other guy's dish I knew he was gone.

                  1. re: LindaWhit

                    annnnd he was a "stay at home dad" that kinda' was scary...
                    glad to see him go!

                    1. re: girloftheworld

                      I was thinking that his kids would be thrilled he was gone from home: no more road kill for dinner.

                    1. re: chefhound

                      He was a weirdo!

                      He thought that his trainwreck of a plate was the most beautiful thing he'd ever cooked ....

                      1. re: C. Hamster

                        That's right. Wasn't he the Polka-Dot Man last night?

                      2. re: chefhound

                        Likewise, I was really worried they were going to keep him in as well. I have a feeling they're going to keep that other "don't hate me because I'm beautiful" lady though, unfortunately.

                      3. This not so much to you how but to the other versions of Masterchef are...no sheep... no name calling.

                        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ua5SKT...

                        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ht7Fy...

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                        1. re: chris2269

                          Now THIS - THIS is what I would dearly love to see on the American MasterChef! Mentoring, amazing food - and the Dalai Lama as a judge? Wow.

                        2. The contest bios are up now:
                          http://www.fox.com/masterchef/bios/co...

                          Comments on the drama
                          Natasha is annoying and despite her claim about her looks I think there are a few other women contests that are better looking with better personalities.

                          I actually like Krissy even though she is part of the drama. I enjoyed her audition. Negative people bring out the worst in others and I think that is what is happening with her.

                          The Cooking
                          Happy to see Jessie and Jordon at the top. From what I saw with Jessie she is one to watch, she may have the best technical skills of the bunch.

                          I like Bime, despite Joe thinking he isn't tough enough for the competition. It's cooking not the military and he seems to have a lot of heart and determination.

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                          1. re: Sandwich_Sister

                            There are quite a few women who are better looking than Natasha. Jessie, for one and she can cook. I almost wonder if it's an act with Natasha because she mentions it too frequently. I don't think she's pretty or even remarkable.

                            I like Krissy, too. She knows how to cook and she only seemed to give back when she was talked about. I also think Lynn is one to watch.

                            1. re: chowser

                              Neither Natasha nor Krissi are very attractive, physically or personality-wise. But they'll probably keep them around for a while for the drama.

                              Jessie is clearly more physically attractive and appealing and I have to say I was cheering her on when she took GRs fish fileting challenge straight on during the audition segment. Also rooting for Jordan, Bime, the Asian guy whose name I haven't learned yet because he hasn't had much face time.

                              And against all odds I do have a soft spot for Howard. I have no idea if he can really cook or not (most likely not) but I have a huge amount of respect for his message. A lot of the guys on the ground in Afghanistan did see many of their unit members die, they *are* coming back with a sense of purpose and realizing they've got opportunities their fallen buddies no longer have. I think his head is in the right place but his execution probably won't be enough. I'd at least like to see him recover from his disasterous spinach salad before he gets axed.

                              1. re: DiningDiva

                                Aisan guy is Lynn (not that I knew but I happened to be looking at the link in the pp). I had a soft spot for Howard until the last challenge. First for calling out Krissie, although those types of exchanges seem to be egged on--pick someone close to them who can hear and get the exchange on camera. The salad thing--what had he planned to do? Was it just that? It would be one thing if he tried someone really difficult (can't remember if he did) and failed but if he set out to make that salad...

                                1. re: chowser

                                  Thank you Chowser, I thought Lynn's name might be Lin, but I wasn's sure and that is the last name of a local foodie friend.

                                  Natasha and Howard are both locals for me, neither has gotten much media attention yet. The local who will debut on Food TVs Next Food Network Star has gotten more.

                                2. re: DiningDiva

                                  Jessie likes duck and lamb. I like her. :-D

                                  It's also interesting to see who their blog interests are. Some are Rachael Ray/Paula Deen, some are Thomas Keller, Smitten Kitchen.

                                  1. re: DiningDiva

                                    Can't stand either of them, regardless of their cooking ability. I hope they land on the same team and stab each other 27 times.

                                  2. re: chowser

                                    Lynn is the Becky of this season. He does food photography so he is around food and knows plating and what looks/tastes good. Jessie is apparently an actual chef so she should be able to slash up a fish. Natasha already has some incomplete website up with lots of artsy photos. Angling for marketing a career. Krissi doesn't seem to have anything up. I think that is just Krissi who got a lucky break and got through and hasn't even thought about marketing herself yet.

                                  3. re: Sandwich_Sister

                                    regarding Natasha, this is Masterchef - not Project Runway. It's not like she would get very far on there either, to be honest.

                                  4. Joe B's take on Natasha and Krissie.

                                    http://www.people.com/people/article/...

                                    "Unfortunately, her (Natasha) poor attitude could use some work. And I've got news for her regarding Krissi – don't mistake a lack of sophistication for a lack of brains. My advice to Natasha would be to quit picking fights with people who are a little bit smarter than you, stop yapping about your self-proclaimed beauty because no one cares and put your energy into what you are creating on the plate. If you can grow up a little bit and do that, I predict we will see amazing things from you in this competition. Take a look back at seasons past – arrogant smugness never gets the win. "

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                                    1. re: chowser

                                      Interesting. Sounds like he's giving the edge to Krissi between the two of them. But interesting comment from someone on the blog:

                                      "Joe's whole persona on the show is "arrogant and smug"."

                                      Very, very true. Pot, meet kettle! LOL