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Coleslaw!!

Jaz Cooks May 28, 2013 12:47 PM

Hi guys - need help. I have never liked coleslaw, until I tried Kraft one-step coleslaw maker, and I really do like that. But my store has stopped carrying it, and it's about $9 a bottle online!!!

Does anyone know if it is mayonnaise based or miracle whip based? I use Hellmans mayo, and have always shuddered at the thought of MW (based on one taste, 20 years ago). But I really REALLY need this coleslaw! If nothing else, does anyone know if it tastes like KFC slaw? I haven't tried that either, but there are lots of copycats for KFC, all saying MW.

Thanks people! Love you!

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  1. Will Owen RE: Jaz Cooks May 28, 2013 12:58 PM

    For what it's worth, I've never used a bottled coleslaw dressing; I make mine with (approximately) a cup each of Hellman's/Best Foods and buttermilk, plus a heaping big soup-spoon of pickle relish and a good splash of RW vinegar. Salt to taste, about half a teaspoon. This is for a bag of the pre-shredded stuff, or a smallish head of cabbage. It looks pretty scant when you stir it in, just barely dampening the cabbage, but after an hour or so covered in the fridge it's almost too much dressing.

    Miracle Whip would be too sweet, I'd think; my own preference is just the first two ingredients with a little salt and vinegar, but Mrs. O wants that pickle relish.

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      Crockett67 RE: Will Owen May 28, 2013 01:01 PM

      Same here, a little different with greek yougurt, mayo, vinegar, honey, and salt & pepper. But I never buy bottled again.

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        Sharuf RE: Will Owen Jun 2, 2013 08:18 AM

        I use mayo thinned with pickle juice and add a little celery seed. Maybe give it some diced apple or pear.

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        Dinermite RE: Jaz Cooks May 28, 2013 01:00 PM

        I'm not familiar with the dressing you're referring to, but if I may recommend what I have found to be VERY good, and well received at picnics and potlucks is Marzetti brand cole slaw dressing. It's in the refridgerated section of the produce department, along with some other refrigerated dressings and such.

        It is sweet, creamy, and delicious and no where near $9. And if does not have that nasty, strong celery flavor like a lot of other cole slaw dressings have.

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          Jaz Cooks RE: Dinermite May 29, 2013 06:40 AM

          Thanks for this suggestion. It happens to be on sale here for $2, so I will try a bottle. I think I'll also grab the smallest amount of miracle whip I can. If nothing else, I can try the KFC copycat. We don't do fast food much, but I think I remember my hubby saying that he liked that slaw. <3

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            EM23 RE: Jaz Cooks May 29, 2013 10:32 AM

            I have made the KFC copycat recipe and it is good, with a couple of changes. I salt the cabbage first and let it drain, then rinse it well and dry it completely in a salad spinner. I use the recipe linked below and add a couple spoons of sweet pickle relish. No Miracle Whip needed!
            http://www.topsecretrecipes.com/KFC-C...

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          kengk RE: Jaz Cooks May 28, 2013 01:00 PM

          I like the Hidden Valley Ranch cole slaw dressing.

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            mrbigshotno.1 RE: kengk May 29, 2013 11:38 AM

            Yep

          2. pinehurst RE: Jaz Cooks May 28, 2013 01:06 PM

            Jaz, here are the ingredients for the Kraft's coleslaw dressing:
            Soybean Oil, Vinegar, Water, Sugar, Modified Food Starch, Egg Yolks, Salt, Mustard Flour, Spice, Paprika, Calcium Disodium Edta (to Protect Flavor), Natural Flavor, Dried Garlic.

            Based on the above, try mixing Hellman's with a bit of mustard (dijon), paprika, garlic powder, and a dash of s&p. Add the ingredients little by little, tasting as you go.

            1. linguafood RE: Jaz Cooks May 28, 2013 02:48 PM

              Coleslaw is one of the easiest things to make. Get the pre-shredded slaw at the supermarket.

              Mix your favorite mayo (mine is Duke's) with apple cider vinegar, a little mustard, s&p. Thinly sliced red onion mixed along with the cabbage, then toss with the dressing.

              Let sit for at least 5 hours, and adjust seasoning if necessary.

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                miss_belle RE: linguafood May 28, 2013 06:30 PM

                Onion has no place in coleslaw. Just my personal opinion and no offense to those who do..:-)

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                  linguafood RE: miss_belle May 28, 2013 11:21 PM

                  You'd be surprised. When I first had it at another 'hound's place, I thought it was radishes, which I liked. It gives it a bit of a bite.

                  But you need a mandoline to really slice thinly. Plus the flavors need time to meld.

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                    Will Owen RE: linguafood Jun 2, 2013 01:52 PM

                    I think I'd use a Greek trick (probably shared by other Mediterraneans) of salting the onion slices lightly and soaking in cold water for about half an hour, then rinsing and patting dry. You get a nice sweet onion flavor without the pungency.

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                      linguafood RE: Will Owen Jun 2, 2013 03:22 PM

                      Yah, you can also quick-pickle in salt & vinegar. I like the slight sharpness the onion adds to the cole slaw, so I leave it unadulterated. Again, it's sliced so thinly, it doesn't actually register as "raw onion". Just adds a nice, savory & spicy kick.

              2. Antilope RE: Jaz Cooks May 28, 2013 06:47 PM

                Here's a link to coleslaw recipes from 1890-2010
                Over 100 years of coleslaw recipes (from old newspapers):
                http://www.recipesecrets.net/forums/r...

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                  dkenworthy RE: Antilope Jun 2, 2013 09:50 AM

                  Thanks for this post! I have been trying to duplicate a dear friend's coleslaw (last had in the 70's) for years that had a sweet dressing, no mayo. Tried the Sweet Spanish Onion, although her's was green, not red, and I think the dressing was close. I'll try it again, more vinegar or less sugar (not sure which will work better) but at least it was a starting point.

                2. KaimukiMan RE: Jaz Cooks May 28, 2013 11:26 PM

                  Since Kraft makes both Miracle Whip and Mayonnaise it could be either, or more likely neither but a mix made specifically for coleslaw. Since Mayonnaise is a more basic ingredient my advice would be to start there, but while you are at it look at MW recipes and see how they compare to Mayo.

                  What was it about the product that you liked that wasn't true in other brands?

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                    Jaz Cooks RE: KaimukiMan May 29, 2013 06:36 AM

                    It's a little sweet, but not overly. I can't put my finger on it, but it's really good. I grab a bag of coleslaw mix - add a cup of the stuff and refrigerate it for a couple of hours, and it's delicious. My daughter hates all cabbage, except this.

                    Because my hubby likes slaw, I have tried Asian slaw recipes, and making my own with mayo and cider vinegar. he was OK with them, but he really loves this Kraft stuff. And, though I am not a fan of HFCS, I get it for him.

                    I think I will buy a tiny jar of miracle whip and see if that's it. It may be, because the Kraft slaw stuff tastes pretty gross out of the bottle. It just somehow combines with the raw cabbage to make something really good, LOL.

                    Thanks for all the input guys! You are the best!

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                      kengk RE: Jaz Cooks May 29, 2013 06:43 AM

                      I just checked and the Hidden Valley brand doesn't have HFCS. Kind of surprised. From reading here I thought it was in everything. Give it a try, it's the closest thing I've found to KFC slaw which is my favorite.

                      You might want to add just a tiny bit more sugar to get it as sweet as KFC. I usually put a little bit of sweet pickle relish in mine.

                  2. Berheenia RE: Jaz Cooks May 29, 2013 06:55 AM

                    I found a recipe online that was just like Mom's (not mine - someone else's) that was Kraft Cole slaw dressing and a scant teaspoon of sugar. Hubby loved it but he has 50's New England tastes in side dishes. Anyway I forgot to pick up the Kraft's for a large event I had organized. I had already bought some Costco sized bags of shredded Dole's cabbage so I faked it with sugar, Hellman's mayo, some garlic powder and a generous amount of pickle juice. It was amazing how much it tasted like commercial deli coleslaw.

                    1. greygarious RE: Jaz Cooks May 29, 2013 10:56 AM

                      EIther MW or regular mayo with extra sugar. There's a goodly amount of sweetening in commercial slaw dressings, even if you don't register that it's there. The KFC slaw is quite sweet but the dressing is thinner than, say, the dressing in coleslaw you'd buy in the deli section of your
                      typical supermarket.

                      Pickle relish is also sweet, so using that with mayo probably results in the same overall sweetness level as using MW without relish.

                      Have you ever tried slaw made without any fatty ingredients?
                      Just vinegar (white, rice, or cider), your choice of sweetener, S&P, water, and maybe a dash of garlic powder. Thinly sliced onion optional. Very good too.

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                        cleopatra999 RE: greygarious May 29, 2013 12:56 PM

                        I second what you say Grey, the bottle coleslaw dressings are VERY sweet, with less acidity. I bet even with MW you would still need to add sugar.

                        I always do mayo, sugar, vinegar and mustard. I like the tang that mustard gives. I add liquid of some kind, milk, soy, water or yogurt to thin it. I like a slightly sweeter coleslaw depending on what it is with.

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                        rasputina RE: Jaz Cooks May 29, 2013 11:29 AM

                        I use Dukes, apple cider vinegar, tiny bit of sugar to balance the vinegar ( do not make it sweet), celery seed, salt and pepper.

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