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I'm just remembering when I had a roommate. He would never replace anything so I began hiding my non perishable food and drinks. Any food or drinks you hide from others?

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  1. Yes, my grown stepson currently lives with us. He can go through some food quick. In the fridge milk gets poured into a Nalgene and leftovers are labeled or put in the produce drawer. Nonperishables get placed in a drawer in the kitchen that he thinks is full of my baking stuff. My husband hides more, but they have more similar food habits. We both hate doing this and he always has access to plenty of food. It's just so frustrating when you are expecting something to be there and have to reformulate on the fly.

    1. We recently flatshared. Nearly everyone there was stealing our food, so we had to bring everything into our bedroom that we could, including our pots & pans, which they also used without our permission.

      They still ate our stuff in the fridge, but nothing we could do about that except move out very very quickly.

      Sometimes, people suck.

      1. We hide chocolate from my husband. Also never buy chocolate ice cream or it disappears. I don't mind the kid eating the chips and things if he would just mention it - is annoying when you go for something that no longer exists.

        1. I have a piece of coconut pie hidden in my pantry right now, so that my Mom doesn't find it when she stops by to pick up my dog this morning. My cousin makes a fabulous coconut pie, and Mom thinks we ate it all at a big family dinner. My cousin made an extra and we aren't telling :-)

          1. ice cream or gelato...my husband thinks a pint is a single serving...so I have to bury it behind frozen veggies so I can enjoy it at my leisure. Chocolate is the same thing, portion control is not his forte.

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            1. re: BeeZee

              That trick doesn't work with my husband! I had low fat ice cream bars that I put up front and buried the Magnum bars in the back under other foods and it was like they had a locator beacon. He found them in seconds. If I want some for me, I buy flavors that he doesn't like!

              1. re: Jeri L

                My husband also figured out my ice cream hiding strategies. So, while pregnant and not wanting to go without, I bought a container of lemon gelato which he does not like. I ate it myself, then kept the container and refilled it with the good ice cream quite a few times. This went on for most of my pregnancy. One day when I had my ice cream craving, I discovered that my "gelato" container was gone! He said "Well, you haven't touched the stuff in months, so I threw it out!" Ahhh!

                1. re: earthygoat

                  LMAO!!

                  1. re: earthygoat

                    Oh that is rich! To funny.

                    1. re: earthygoat

                      "For tis the sport to haue the enginer Hoist with his owne petar" 'Hamlet' III.iv.207

                      1. re: earthygoat

                        I hope you sent him out to get you more :)

                    2. re: BeeZee

                      A pint IS a single serving.

                      1. re: PotatoHouse

                        So then what are the single-serving sized-containers? A pre-serving?

                        1. re: GraceW

                          They're just a teaser. LOL

                          1. re: GraceW

                            "Amuse Bouche?"

                            Hunt

                      2. In college BF had to hide his duty free liquor in his room so his roommate wouldn't drink it. I got a nice frantic phone call from one of them claiming BF was a alcoholic because he was drinking alone in his room and hiding alcohol.

                        I will occassionally hide the last can of soda or cookies from my mom from the BF.

                        But other than that no hiding needed. It helps that I am the one that shops, unpacks, and cooks. So BF never knows what we have and where we have it.

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                        1. re: viperlush

                          Also remembered that once BF's parents decided to hide the liquor from BF, his sister, and I when they left us alone for the weekend. Fortunately, for some unknown reason I decided to check the trunk of their father's car before we took it out. In it we found the box full of opened liquor bottles. After that they decided to trust us and not hide it.

                        2. Only ones that I am gifting at the holidays/for birthdays, etc.

                          1. Yes, from my children since they will eat entire boxes of snacks and then refuse dinner :(

                            My husband says its all normal for growing boys and I will have to stop micromanaging their food intake. Which I agree with, but I just wish they would eat more healthfully.....forever a mom's wish.....so it looks like instead of buying and hiding, I will just stop buying the snacks, so that they are forced to eat fruit, cheese or, heaven forbid, make themselves a sandwich....sigh.

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                            1. re: Dirtywextraolives

                              I'd say normal, given the opportunity, but not healthy. A five year old will also happily eat ice cream and popcorn and refuse dinner, given the chance, but it doesn't mean we make it easy for them.

                              1. re: tastesgoodwhatisit

                                What he meant by "normal" was that they are growing and often cannot get filled up. Not that it's normal and healthy to eat a box of snacks......

                                1. re: Dirtywextraolives

                                  maybe not healthy, but VERY normal for a teen or near teen.

                                  Grab food, insert in mouth, swallow. Grab more food, repeat. No brain activity is involved. Its a reflex action.

                                  1. re: KaimukiMan

                                    Exactly! I was that way as a teenage girl also..... The only thing that saves me from worrying to death about their nutrition is that they do eat vegetables, one eats tons of fruit, they are active athletes, and neither have an ounce of fat on them.....

                              2. re: Dirtywextraolives

                                About growing boys: I'm male and recall a period when I was about 15 when I would buy 6 jelly doughnuts (we called them Bismarcks) at a bakery near my school every day. I ate five during the schoolbus ride home--that was how long the ride lasted--and then I'd polish off the last one pretty soon. Never put on an ounce of weight.

                                I also used to make 8 slices of buttered cinnamon toast at a time for a snack.

                                Other stories come to mind. But now I'm 50, and those days are long gone...

                                1. re: Bada Bing

                                  My bfs kid can eat 8 eggs, 7 pieces of bacon and 4 pieces of toast in one breakfast. Along with milk. He's 12 barely.

                                  1. re: deputygeorgie

                                    How's his cholesterol?

                                    1. re: deputygeorgie

                                      Wow, now THAT'S a breakfast of champions! Glad mine aren't there. Yet. But they can polish off a pound of bacon, but I don't let them, as I usually want to save some for other dishes....

                                      1. re: Dirtywextraolives

                                        I think you make a really good point. The fact that they WOULD eat it doesn't mean *I* would let them.

                                        1. re: c oliver

                                          Oh I would let them, just not every time I make bacon. My kids are skinny beanpoles, not an ounce of fat on them and are extremely athletic. Plus the bloodwork is always perfect, so I don't worry about cholesterol.

                                          1. re: Dirtywextraolives

                                            Your budget is obviously higher than ours was when we were raising our children :)

                                      2. re: deputygeorgie

                                        He's a healthy boy for sure. Very athletic. As a family of four, we go through a gallon of milk in a day and a half on average. May be cheaper to buy a cow! We basically take any 'normal' sized meal for a family of four and almost double it.

                                        1. re: deputygeorgie

                                          I remember growing up Mother would admonish us to drink water, not milk, when we were thirsty. We got plenty of it at meals.

                                          1. re: c oliver

                                            Maybe I should try this but it's all he wants, it's pretty healthy for him(2%) and I'd rather him drink that than soda or sweet tea.

                                        2. re: deputygeorgie

                                          Wow, I thought a Eggo waffle with peanut butter was 'luxurious' for breakfast.. that sounds like a lot of prep for his breakfast alone. I'd hate to see how big his lunchbox is for school. Maybe it's a separate backpack?

                                          1. re: GraceW

                                            Breakfast takes me an hour to cook for 3 people. (I don't partake.) I usually make a package of bacon, about a dozen or so eggs, and up to 8 pieces of bread if I make french toast or regular toast. Milk is a gallon every day and a half and oj was the same for awhile. We are a LARGE family. The man is 6'4, and both kids will be well over 6'. I'm tiny at 5'6 to them!

                                            Surprisingly, his lunch is small. He fills up at breakfast! Lunch is a pb&j, a banana, milk and fruit snack. Maybe some cheese-its or chips.

                                      3. re: Dirtywextraolives

                                        I have a "snack drawer" for my daughter. I only put things there that I want her to pick out.
                                        AM I micromanaging? Probably. But the kid has grandmas who are constantly offering trips to dunkin donuts, ice cream store, and Starbucks. So I don't feel bad limiting the junk in my house.

                                        1. re: cheesecake17

                                          I don't think that is micro managing at all. When our son was a toddler we used to have a drawer in the kitchen and one in the fridge with "any time" snacks. These were foods he was welcome to anytime. It made him feel independent being able to get his own snacks and it meant I knew he was getting healthy foods when he felt he needed them.

                                          1. re: foodieX2

                                            Thanks!
                                            I'm always made to feel like the "crazy protective mom"
                                            She's a funny bugger though, always looking out for the neighbor to give her lollipops

                                          2. re: cheesecake17

                                            Micromanaging would be making her come to you every single time she wants a snack. You're enabling her to make choices and empowering her to fill her own needs - getting a snack when hungry.

                                            Kids get that you eat when you're hungry pretty early. Takes them longer to catch on to the 'sometimes foods' concepts.

                                            1. re: jw615

                                              Thanks for supporting me. I have friends who think I'm crazy. But I always try to explain that there is junk food in my house, just not everywhere

                                            2. re: cheesecake17

                                              You are NOT micromanaging, you are being a parent which is a rare thing nowdays.

                                          3. I hide Slim Jims from my husband because he thinks they are the lowest form of food and gets on my case for eating them, haha!

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                                            1. re: alliegator

                                              I friggen love Slim Jims

                                              1. re: juliejulez

                                                Well, in my home, they can be found in the makeup drawer :)

                                              2. re: alliegator

                                                I like Slim Jims and keep them in my car all the time!

                                                1. re: SteveRosen

                                                  Don't run with Slim Jims - you'll poke your eye out.

                                                  Hunt

                                                  1. re: Bill Hunt

                                                    Only run with average-sized James.

                                                    1. re: Bill Hunt

                                                      Especially running with Slim Jims in a cemetery at night with a new moon.

                                                      1. re: Veggo

                                                        While swinging a dead black cat, over your head, on the Autumnal Equinox.

                                                        Really, really dangerous. I am thinking Marie Laveau DANGEROUS. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marie_La...

                                                        Hunt

                                                      2. re: Bill Hunt

                                                        Just so everyone can stop fretting over me poking my eye out with a Slim Jim, I'd like to ease your minds. First off, I wear glasses most of the time. And my Slim Jims are only consumed after I've walked calmly to my couch, slouched into my favorite spot and opened a beer.
                                                        All tips on Slim Jim safety are sure to be useful to a lot of Slim Jim lovers, though!

                                                        1. re: alliegator

                                                          After your second 6-pack, it's time to strap on the welder's mask before the next Slim Jim. I read that in Readers Digest, I think.

                                                  2. If I want to save leftovers from dinner for the next day's brown bag lunch, I put them in the produce drawer under the veggies...the Spousal Unit never looks there when he's looking for a 3 a.m. snack...

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                                                    1. re: kcshigekawa

                                                      I might have to start doing that. I usually make extra rice when doing a stir-fry, in hopes of doing fried rice the next day.

                                                      I've only gotten to do it once, however. The rice disappears overnight along with a quarter of a bottle of expensive soy sauce....

                                                      1. re: kcshigekawa

                                                        Interesting. Vegetable defensive line....

                                                        1. re: kcshigekawa

                                                          I hide things in the veggie drawer I don't want the hubby to eat. I have a wheat and a nitrate intolerance so things I can eat are limited. Purchased gluten free or no nitrate foods are expensive and home made are labor intensive.
                                                          I got really tired of the one thing of left overs in the fridge that I can eat being pilfered or an entire batch of brownies gone. So putting whatever it is in the veggie drawer under a bag of veggies seems to work.
                                                          My other tactic is to make things for me that I know nobody else in the house likes. Then I know I will have something.

                                                          1. re: blackpointyboots

                                                            I have a SIL who always puts kraut on her hotdogs when out with her family at sporting events. She knows she does not have to give bites to her boys that way.

                                                        2. Yes. I have kids. :)

                                                          To be fair though, I remember my mom hiding food from us too. She would mislabel with creamed herring while it was "setting" for fear we would eat it all before the holiday.

                                                          1. I don't, but every now and then, I'll find something (usually some form of chocolate) lurking amongst the Tupperware or behind the crystal. Mrs. ricepad claims that she's hiding it from herself, on the basis that if she has to look for it, it gives her a greater chance to exercise some self-control. To which I say...r-i-i-ight.

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                                                            1. re: ricepad

                                                              Hmmmm. My ex-wife used to hide chocolates and and sweets like that, and I always did kind of think it was somehow hiding it from herself as much as from others.

                                                            2. I had to hide food in my first housemate situation at the age of 16. I came home from work one night and my entire weeks groceries had been consumed due to room mate and visitors "munchies". That was a hungry week...

                                                              After that I kept fruit, bread, canned soup and tuna tins in my bedroom. I also began to eat yogurt since none of them liked it.

                                                              My Mother hid her daily bottle of cola in the vegetable bin...I think I was the only one who ever discovered it!

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                                                              1. re: meatn3

                                                                I had the same housemate situation! I'm always up for sharing the wealth, but one of my roommates in college took things way too far, and she never replaced anything. As soon as I discovered she hated raspberries, I took action. Fresh raspberries, raspberry iced tea, raspberry syrup for milk & ice cream, and I made chocolate raspberry brownies often!

                                                                Passive aggressive, I know - but it worked!

                                                              2. I hide snack foods like chips or crackers from my husband, because he has no self control and will eat anything and everything that's in the pantry. Then I go to get something and it's gone. He has no self-control.

                                                                1. .

                                                                  1. I once dated a girl whose parents put a chain and padlock on a pair of kitchen cabinets where they kept their snacks, but left the booze unsecured.

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                                                                    1. re: grampart

                                                                      Sounds like they might have had a food-addicted child? I have heard of this, but don't know much about it.

                                                                      1. re: sandylc

                                                                        No, they were just very weird people.

                                                                        1. re: sandylc

                                                                          I have a friend with a food-addicted child and they keep locks on the fridge/freezer and the cabinets. I was staying for a week from out of state and brought a cooler of my own snacks and food for my dog with me so I wouldn't be a burden. The snacks were mostly for when I went bike riding or running so there was a big bag of string cheese, some protein bars, and a running boost supplement called "chomps" which was packaged like small bags of gummies as well as some gourmet candy that I had bought in a specialty shop on the drive there. Decided to leave it in the car so the kid wouldn't know about it or be tempted. I went out one morning and my car wouldn't start... couldn't figure out why .. battery was completely dead. Once we finally got it jumped and started I realized that a door in the back wasn't completely shut and the inside light was on. Weird, but stuff happens. A day later I was leaving and got in the cooler to get a snack and the entire (LARGE) bag of cheese sticks was empty, all the running food was gone (empty wrappers left behind) as well as the candy. Her mom told me later that she found ALL the wrappers from the cheese hidden in the girl's closet. I bet she had some wicked constipation and was jittery all night from all the caffeine and supplements. It was annoying as heck then, but funny in retrospect.

                                                                          1. re: Firegoat

                                                                            You're right--there is a "food-addicted child" psychiatric disorder called Prader-Willi, an insatiable appetite. Difficult to treat and challenging for the parents.

                                                                            1. re: pine time

                                                                              Exactly - this is a horrible disease, and super stressful for the caretakers. I had a few children with this in my career as a camp director - we always had to watch them carefully because they would even eat food out of the trash.

                                                                              1. re: jw615

                                                                                I have a friend who has a daughter suffering from this, along with raising her and her two little brothers, I cannot even imagine the stress.......

                                                                        2. re: grampart

                                                                          My father-in-law ruined a wonderful hutch, ca late 1800's by doing a very poor job of installing a lock. It was where they kept their liquor. He was an overly cautious type and my DH and brother were getting into their teens. He wanted to be a very conscience dad.

                                                                        3. Don't know if this constitutes as hiding but I stopped putting my lunch/snacks in the communal fridge because it kept getting stolen. Now I pack my lunch in a soft sided cooler and keep it under my desk.

                                                                          I have an 11 year old and no food is off limits. I only buy what I don't mind him (or us) eating. As parent I control the what comes into the house. Out of the house he is on his own but it still all balances out over time.

                                                                          My husband does hide his stash of Utz crab chips and Berger cookies to keep all to himself but I know where to look…

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                                                                          1. re: foodieX2

                                                                            A good spouse always knows where to look.

                                                                          2. I once rented a room from a family; their grandmother moved-in due to her inability to live alone. She would consistently eat out of my small fridge and pantry instead of the family's (full-sized fridge). They kept telling her no, but she would always forget who I was, and she kept at it. Mostly she ate and loved those Sour Cream Corn Puffs from Trader Joes and any snack foods.. so for a good year and a half I never had many carbs.. since they always disappeared by granny-rat. Hence, I started storing some foods in the trunk of my car... to keep her away.

                                                                            Trunk of car=safe!

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                                                                            1. re: GraceW

                                                                              If you had put granny in the trunk the fridge would have been safe.

                                                                              1. re: Veggo

                                                                                I am laughing so hard my abs (er, semi-abs) are hurting!!! Thanks Veggo!

                                                                            2. Does it count if you have to hide food from your pets? One of my cats has a bizarre fondness for banana stems and papaya skin, so I can't let either of those fruits ripen on the counter - I have to stash them in the cupboard.

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                                                                              1. re: goodhealthgourmet

                                                                                My dog loves tomatoes and does his best to steal the ones growing in the back yard right off the stem. I have to cover them with nets more because of the dog, than the birds. I still catch him trying to get around the nets.

                                                                                1. re: arashall

                                                                                  Your dog has good taste - few things are better than a tomato fresh off the vine :)

                                                                                  As of last night I have to add avocado to the hidden foods list - I busted Sasha trying to pull one out of the wire basket I keep on the counter. When she saw me coming she whirled around to run away and of course she caught the basket with her tail and it went flying off, taking the terra cotta garlic keeper with it. The garlic keeper smashed into bits everywhere, the avocado split open on impact, and we now have a nice gouge in the wood laminate floor from where the wire basket hit. I'm *really* glad I didn't pick up any heirloom tomatoes yesterday because they would have been in the basket too.

                                                                                  Suffice to say there will no longer be ANY species of fruit left unattended within feline reach in this household.

                                                                                  1. re: goodhealthgourmet

                                                                                    Oh my!

                                                                                    I hate to admit how many of my "decorating" decisions are based on creating cat barriers.

                                                                                    I do keep some fruits and vegetables inside the microwave. They stay at room temperature and certain four legged beasts have yet to figure out how to open it. (Knock on wood!)

                                                                                    1. re: meatn3

                                                                                      The microwave - what a great idea! Funny that I never would have thought of it even though I keep things in the oven when I have nowhere else to put them. I rarely use my MW so it's perfect for storage. Thanks for the solution :)

                                                                                      1. re: goodhealthgourmet

                                                                                        Happy to help!

                                                                                        I use it when I'm doing a room temp marinade too. Makes for a very frustrated tabby...Sometimes I tuck my half finished meal in there for safe keeping if I get interrupted and need to answer the door. Much easier than cleaning bits of it off the sofa and carpet!

                                                                                        1. re: meatn3

                                                                                          I'm going to be using my microwave more than ever...without even turning it on :)

                                                                                        2. re: goodhealthgourmet

                                                                                          when i consider the number of threads of people who forgot to clean out their oven before preheating I shudder to think what might happen with a microwave.

                                                                                          1. re: KaimukiMan

                                                                                            Well, normally people don't need to preheat a microwave, and before using it, you always need to open the door and put something inside. I guess this is less of a worry than using a regular oven for storage.

                                                                                            1. re: Tripeler

                                                                                              Exactly - the fact that you don't preheat the MW (and that you always open the door before turning it on) makes it a much safer storage space than the oven!

                                                                                              1. re: goodhealthgourmet

                                                                                                yes, but i NEVER underestimate the talents and capabilities of my fellow hounds.

                                                                                      2. re: goodhealthgourmet

                                                                                        My old German Shepherd must have had some coyote in her. We never could break her of food-stealing, she was brazen and talented, plus tall and very long-legged. Whe we first got her I had roasted a leg of lamb and was sltting it sit on the counter. Went out to carve it and it was gone. I caught her right before she got outside with it and had a dramatic wrestling match. I won. Same with a great big meat loaf one time. She took a baguette off the counter right after we went to bed once , and managed to also sweep the butter dish off the counter- smashed glass and butter all over. Young son got a job in a bakery restaurant and we had to start keeping the bread on top of the fridge- she'd snag it and run out the dog door and eat the whole thing- once it was two whole loaves. Many, many edibles disappeared during her time with us. Her best trick, though, was the time she sneaked a half-empty gatorade bottle out of my son's room when he and a friend were in there. She actually got the lid unscrewed and was in the living room, lapping it out of the bottle, which she was holding between her front paws. Damn dog didn't spill a drop.

                                                                                        1. re: EWSflash

                                                                                          My long-deceased Dalmatian also was a bread thief (in cahoots with the cat). The Corgi can't quite manage to get up that high or get the cat to work with her yet. However.... my best friend had her big black lab at her parents' house over the xmas holiday. He apparently snagged two loaves of bread from the counter overnight and bloated and died by morning. :(

                                                                                          1. re: Firegoat

                                                                                            I am sure the Corgi can eventually get the cat to come around. So sad about your friends lab. Very sad. What a way for the poor baby to go.

                                                                                            1. re: suzigirl

                                                                                              The corgi will probably draw up a contract and hire the cat with benefits and organize a complete and total uprising. The good news I'm in line to move back out of the city to a farm hopefully in two months. The dog will be too busy bossing the horses around to fully convert the cat to her life of organized crime.

                                                                                              1. re: Firegoat

                                                                                                I don't know, I like the idea of a cat "mob boss"

                                                                                            2. re: Firegoat

                                                                                              My husband likes to tell a story about his father's Rottweiler, which happened long before my time. They were at their cottage and there was a platter with a full rack of ribs marinating in BBQ sauce on the kitchen table. While they were all outdoors boating and lounging, the dog managed to reach the ribs and eat the whole rack, bones and all! When the family later went indoors to deal with dinner prep, they found the empty platter on the floor, licked clean. The dog didn't miss a step. I guess all those rocks he'd eat at the cottage trained his system to tolerate a whole rack of ribs and their bones as well.

                                                                                              1. re: 1sweetpea

                                                                                                Chances are that the Rottweiler buried the bones.

                                                                                                1. re: 1sweetpea

                                                                                                  Our Great Dane did the same thing when I as growing up. Two racks of ribs in a soy/oil/vinegar/duck sauce/garlic marinade. My mother came into the kitchen and found the totally cleaned tray still sitting on the counter where she had left it -- except it was now empty.

                                                                                              2. re: EWSflash

                                                                                                Wowza! What a determined dog. That'll keep you on your toes. Thought my jerky stealing cat was talented but you win.

                                                                                                1. re: EWSflash

                                                                                                  That might be why we have always had English Bulldogs - they are short, cannot jump very high, and are basically very lazy - plus we feed them well.

                                                                                                  Of course, then there was Beauregard, who could stand very tall for an English Bulldog, if he felt there was something in it for him.

                                                                                                  Hunt

                                                                                                  1. re: Bill Hunt

                                                                                                    By the way, Hunt. those locks were sorta sad. I brought the Latour to Caroline's and kept that '76 Cab for myself. You might wanna think about an alarm system.

                                                                                                    1. re: MGZ

                                                                                                      An "alarm system" might be a good idea.

                                                                                                      Hunt

                                                                                                      1. re: Bill Hunt

                                                                                                        It won't keep me from gettin' in, old boy, but it might help with some of the others.

                                                                                                        By the way, what the fuck were you thinking when you bought that awful '03 Santa Monica Merlot. I tried it outta curiousity, but blech. I know you know better, my friend, I'm just disappointed, ok?

                                                                                                        I took the liberty of orderin' a two seater lay-z-boy yesterday. If you would be man enough to leave it in the cellar for me, I won't ever tell anyone the combination to the back lock or how you have the '67 Dom hidden, (Oh, and you should thank me again for not takin' that one home to make mimosas for Mrs.Z.)

                                                                                                        1. re: MGZ

                                                                                                          "Santa Monica Merlot?" What are you talking about?

                                                                                                          Sorry, but I am not following properly. Can you provide details?

                                                                                                          Thanks,

                                                                                                          Hunt

                                                                                                          1. re: Bill Hunt

                                                                                                            Bill, if your sense of humor is that poor, I am going to distribute the contents of your cellar to every 'hound who has posted on this thread.

                                                                                                            I will, however, let you keep the lay-z-boy.

                                                                                                            Remember, my friend, some of us present things differently. That's why half past eleven o'clock on Saturday nights is an ok time to put on NBC.

                                                                                                            Always read the voices of others. Some of us carry sticks, maybe even twirl 'em. Others insert 'em.

                                                                                                            1. re: MGZ

                                                                                                              NBC? That is when I tune into FoxNews... ;<)

                                                                                                              Hunt

                                                                                            3. re: goodhealthgourmet

                                                                                              My mom had a Pembroke Corgi (actually my brother had a Corgi but it lived at mom's house.) These are not large dogs, but they are rather voracious eaters. Nor are they very particular about what it is they eat. If it is food, or resembles food in any way it is fair game. We brought home a loaf of deli rye, very good bread. It was on the counter. In the corner. We went out to have dinner. When we got back there was no rye bread, no wrapper, no nothing. Just a VERY thirsty but happy Corgi. No guilt, no remorse. We still don't know how he got up on the counter.

                                                                                              1. re: KaimukiMan

                                                                                                I have a Pem, and this made me laugh. Luckily mine isn't food fixated but I know many that are. Mine is actually very trim because she runs with me daily. I had a woman at a dog park stop me and ask me what I fed her because she was so trim. I told her I leave kibbles down 24/7 and she just eats what she wants. She proceeded to scold me loudly that I couldn't do that Corgis will eat themselves to death. Um... really? Take a look at the dog ma'am. However to your story, I can totally believe a hungry resourceful corgi found a way.

                                                                                                1. re: Firegoat

                                                                                                  From the little I know, you definitely have a rare corgi. In terms of food mom's really would eat anything. Couldn't let him run on the beach, he would find an old sandwich, a fishhook with bait on it (trip to the vet to remove the hooks - 3 different times), there was also a bag of fish emulsion fertilizer he was very fond of. Then there was the christmas someone left a box of chocolates (we didn't know it was chocolate) under the tree. This meant that every box that appeared needed to be investigated thoroughly after that. Apparently unlike many dogs chocolate didn't have a negative effect on him, even though it was a 3 pound box. Fortunately we caught the large box of Hickory Farms meats and cheeses before he found them. And he was one of those corgis who would gladly eat himself to death. When he was put on a diet he would look at his food dish mornfully for a good 10 or 15 seconds before gobbling it down. Then he would look up wondering where the rest of his meal was. And heaven help anyone who got in the way of his evening snack of sharing apple slices with mom.

                                                                                                  1. re: KaimukiMan

                                                                                                    LOL I agree mine is probably a rare one. She likes her food but I leave her food out 24/7 and she just nibbles when in the mood. In contrast (and apologizing for hijacking the thread to talk dogs) I had a Dalmatian for a lovely 16 years and she was probably the world's only obese Dalmatian. She was a couch potato and loved to eat. She'd get bread off the counter and once ate an entire bowl of those colorful foil wrapped easter chocolate eggs. My corgi won't turn down a snack of people food, but she'd pick a long run over a bowl of kibble any day of the week. We're packing up to go to the lake today and while I'm sure she'll snag a treat here and there she's going to be all about hiking trails all weekend long. (on the chocolate eggs I did call the vet he asked... is she still alive. I said yes. He said well don't worry about it but expect some fancy looking poop.)

                                                                                                    1. re: Firegoat

                                                                                                      yes, those fancy colored foil wrappings seem to pass through unfazed, LOL (as did the rye bread wrapper pieces)

                                                                                              2. re: goodhealthgourmet

                                                                                                i notice my pets sniffing at certain unlikely foods, and i wonder if it is the fumigants they spray on those imported items --- i notice they like sniffing the flower bulbs when i buy them in the autumn (daffodils etc) to plant in my garden - fungicide or something on those bulbs.

                                                                                                1. re: goodhealthgourmet

                                                                                                  Our late-lamented pooch Dixie had what we called an extend-a-nose. She wasn't very big, but she was adept at reaching things that you didn't think she could get to. One evening, when my son and I were living in Cairo, my husband rubbed a tri-tip with garlic and other seasonings, and left it on the kitchen counter, way too close to the edge. When my husband was on the porch with a G&T and petting Dixie, he kept on thinking, "Why does Dixie smell like garlic?" He went to the kitchen and discovered the remains of the tri-tip hidden in Dixie's dog beg as well as a huge puppy belly on the dog. Subsequently, also while I was away with my son, he took out a steak and went down to the wine cellar to get a bottle of wine. When he came up, the steak was gone. Did he really have a steak on the counter? Had he taken it out? Yup, he had, and there was Dixie with a huge puppy belly and a guilty expression. After that, we learned to hide food from her by pushing waaaay back on the counter, away from her extend-a-nose.

                                                                                                  1. re: goodhealthgourmet

                                                                                                    We had a cat that lived on top of the cabinets in the kitchen. Came down only to potty. And bread. Many mornings we'd wake up to a ripped open bread bag. Into the microwave. She passed away a year ago and we still keep the bread in the microwave.

                                                                                                    1. re: deputygeorgie

                                                                                                      So sorry for your loss :(

                                                                                                      For the most part I'm loving the microwave storage trick so far, I just have to *remember* to take out the things I leave inside. The other day I pulled a pint of organic blueberries out of the fridge and stuck them in the MW to bring them to room temperature before eating...and of course I got distracted, forgot about them until the next day & had to toss them.

                                                                                                      1. re: goodhealthgourmet

                                                                                                        Thank you for your thoughts. *I* don't use the microwave very often but the kids do find it annoying. Oh well.

                                                                                                  2. Of course, all the time! I'm an only child so don't like people treading on my stuff :) It's so frustrating to plan to have something and it's gone!

                                                                                                    1. I never hide anything, but my mom sure did. She is a chocolate junkie and she raised us to be the same. She had to start hiding the chocolate chips from us so they would actually be there when it came time to make cookies. (But they seemed to disappear from her bedroom as fast as they did from the cabinet. Hmm.)

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                                                                                                      1. re: Kontxesi

                                                                                                        Your mom and my mom should get together! She's like a squirrel when it comes to chocolate. Any kind of chocolate is not safe from her devouring the entire thing in one sitting. I remember as a kid waking up Easter mornings with part of the ears of my chocolate bunnies mysteriously missing... :o)

                                                                                                        1. re: Sra. Swanky

                                                                                                          Seasonal bunny ear blight disease?

                                                                                                          ;-)

                                                                                                          1. re: meatn3

                                                                                                            Yup! An ailment that reared its floppy head every Easter! :)

                                                                                                      2. Mr. P. eats a prodigious amounts of nuts, nearly any kind. So, when I want to make my cashew or peanut sauces, I have to stash bagfuls in the baking pantry, which he avoids like the plague.

                                                                                                        1. Occasionally. Sometimes I have something in mind to make and when I am getting the food for the recipe together I will find that my DH has eaten it. Go to plan B

                                                                                                          1. I just thought of another one. We hide liquor when mangator's parent's visit. Luckily, once a year. Unfortunaley, for 2 weeks.
                                                                                                            They drink beer and wine, but think liquor is for "weak souls". Little do they know that this weak soul is sneaking shots in the laundry room to endure their visit!

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                                                                                                            1. re: alliegator

                                                                                                              I got a weak soul myself, allie. Cheers!

                                                                                                              1. re: alliegator

                                                                                                                Oh my god, I just laughed til tears came to my eyes. You weak soul. Hilarious.

                                                                                                                1. re: suzigirl

                                                                                                                  Well, the new casita just has a laundry closet. So I'll have to become a "closeted drinker" in the bedroom.

                                                                                                                  1. re: alliegator

                                                                                                                    Whatever gets you through the visit.

                                                                                                                    1. re: suzigirl

                                                                                                                      Well, now it can be my grandfather. Any hint of rudeness, and he'll tell them to get the hell out of our home. And then say something else on his mind, like "y'know, I was in your bathroom looking for some chap stick and I found these slim jims".

                                                                                                              2. I inadvertently hide from myself foodstuffs bought abroad. The intent was to put the stuff somewhere so I wouldn't think to check too often, instead something (ie, Japanese kit-kats) falls behind a wheeled shelving rack and gets noticed by an/the offending party months later.

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                                                                                                                1. I had a roommate who went so far as to label individually wrapped cheese slices. Each slice, not just the pack! She labeled absolutely everything she bought. However, she declared open season on anything anyone else bought. She ate an entire jar of homemade hot fudge sauce my stepmom made me. After that, I just ate at my restaurant job and took snacks to friends' houses to eat while hanging out.

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                                                                                                                  1. re: charlesbois

                                                                                                                    Yikes! I know the feeling. Looks like your old roomie is doomed to be in the ex-roommate/ex-wife club for life if she doesn't change her ways!

                                                                                                                    1. re: charlesbois

                                                                                                                      Roommate probably thought if you didn't label it it was fair game.

                                                                                                                    2. My husband hides his wine drinking from me since I'm pregnant and can't imbibe and he doesn't want me to feel bad. The wine isn't hidden, but he never drinks it in front of me. I appreciate that.

                                                                                                                      He has also hidden food from me that I didn't want to be tempted by for health reasons, like peanut brittle, which I can inexplicably put away seemingly by the pound.

                                                                                                                      1. I have a certain friend in particular who is a major cheapskate and freeloader. Any time we're at a get together, which is generally BYOB, I have to leave my bottle in my car. He's notorious for showing up to parties empty handed and helping himself to everyone else's booze throughout the night.

                                                                                                                        I've also considered leaving a "fake" bottle of liquor out on the counter, just to mess with him. Maybe replace it with something like vinegar - just to bust him, and see the look on his face when he takes a swig of his "cocktail".

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                                                                                                                        1. re: Atomic76

                                                                                                                          I've noticed that those two attributes (cheapskate and freeloader) often go hand-in-hand, too!

                                                                                                                        2. When we were young kids my Mother hide her favorite Chunky bar or Cadbury chocolate with fruit & nuts bar from us in the upper bin inside the frig.

                                                                                                                          I figured it out once I was old enough to reach it. :)

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                                                                                                                          1. re: HillJ

                                                                                                                            Same deal in our house with Dad's Toblerone bars & Mom's chocolate addiction of the moment. They stashed it in the very top cabinet, which was just beneath the ceiling (usually hiding the goods behind some other things), but there was a step stool just a few feet away... ;)

                                                                                                                            1. re: goodhealthgourmet

                                                                                                                              You were wayyy ahead of me...on the step stool...which was always kept in the garage...

                                                                                                                              1. re: goodhealthgourmet

                                                                                                                                I love how everyone knows where the 'secret hiding place' was. Kinda like we kids knew where the Christmas gifts were 'hidden'.

                                                                                                                            2. My husband hides stuff rom himself! When I bake a cake, cookies or banana bread, he immediately cuts it up and freezes individual portions, hoping that he'll forget they're there before he eats them all. Given that we're over 60, it sometimes works.

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                                                                                                                              1. re: EllenMM

                                                                                                                                I also 'hide' food from myself. I live in a condo and there is a storage room downstairs where each resident has a locker. If I have some kind of food I don't want to eat all at once (halloween miniature candy bars, a giant bag of cookies, etc) I will put them in the storage locker. I know its there, but if I really want it bad enough to get dressed at 3 in the morning, take the elevator down to the storage room and grab three cookies then I figure its ok. At least it doesn't become victim of absent minded eating. Sadly there is no electrical outlet so i can't put a mini fridge down there too. LOL

                                                                                                                                1. re: KaimukiMan

                                                                                                                                  Have you ever encountered a kindred spirit in the storage room who was satisfying their craving at 3 am too?!

                                                                                                                                  1. re: meatn3

                                                                                                                                    on the advice of counsel i refuse to answer as it may tend to incriminate my neighbors.

                                                                                                                              2. I sometimes hide food from my husband but not because he'll eat it. I hide it because he'll notice that I've eaten it...
                                                                                                                                He's annoyingly observant and thinks there's nothing wrong with saying "did you eat 6 cookies today?" when he notices there's less quite a bit less than before. Well, yes, every once in a while I want to have a little binge and I'd really prefer everyone pretend they didn't notice, thanks!

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                                                                                                                                1. re: hyacinthgirl

                                                                                                                                  Ugh. I specifically refused to marry a man that did that to me. Married instead a man that is willing to indulge in a porkroll egg and cheese bagel at 2am. We are very happy.

                                                                                                                                  Jerseygirl111

                                                                                                                                  1. re: Jerseygirl111

                                                                                                                                    This one is all too happy to order and devour a pizza with me at some awful hour, so we are happy. He's just annoyingly observant and feels the need to comment on all sorts of random things ("did you move the blue vase to the right?" "is that a new dish towel?" etc). I think he honestly means it be a sign of caring, that he notices things, and is naively hurt when I get offended.

                                                                                                                                    1. re: hyacinthgirl

                                                                                                                                      Ahh. I incorrectly assumed he was judging you for the # of cookies you had eaten. Sort of a shaming. My apologies.

                                                                                                                                      Jerseygirl111

                                                                                                                                  2. re: hyacinthgirl

                                                                                                                                    A cookie-counter! That's a serious obstacle...

                                                                                                                                  3. In the past, chocolate, if I ever wanted to see it again. And for a while Booze, haha, it just seemed to evaporate out of the bottle. That was when $$ was tight and the kids were younger. Out of 5 of us, 4 are chocohaulics.
                                                                                                                                    Now with $$ looser, and the kids long gone, nothing in the house is off limits, but we keep each other informed if we finish something we know the other bought.

                                                                                                                                    1. I have to hide beef jerky from my cat. We give her a treat of duck jerky every night. My bf made a big bag of homemade beef jerky and he left the bag open on the couch one night and it disappeared. We couldn't figure out the mystery but started noticing she was chewing on treats throughout the week that I hadn't given her. She had stashed the bag in my hall closet and kept going back and helping herself to the beef jerky. She also stole a whole bag of duck jerky and stashed it too. Now all jerky gets hidden from her little theiving little fluffy butt.

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                                                                                                                                      1. re: suzigirl

                                                                                                                                        I had a cat that had a thing for Arby's chicken strips and Arby's roast beef. And a boyfriend who spoiled the cat. You could not bring a bag of anything arby's into the house.....

                                                                                                                                        1. re: Firegoat

                                                                                                                                          What is it with the boyfriends spoiling the pets. My sweetie is the worst

                                                                                                                                          1. re: suzigirl

                                                                                                                                            united against the common frenemy.

                                                                                                                                        2. re: suzigirl

                                                                                                                                          Wow, and I thought my cat was a jerky 'ho!! That's hysterical! We have to ration it for him, otherwise his fluffy butt needs a good bath with lots of soap!

                                                                                                                                          1. re: Dirtywextraolives

                                                                                                                                            She takes the cake when it comes to being a jerky ho! She is smart enough to hide it and ration it out. I am amazed at her will. And the fact that she has done it twice shows that she is thinking about it. Don't tell me animals are dumb

                                                                                                                                            1. re: suzigirl

                                                                                                                                              EXACTLY!! Impressive!!

                                                                                                                                            2. re: Dirtywextraolives

                                                                                                                                              Both of you just please be sure to give your kitties *very* small servings of jerky. Large amounts of salt will lead to electrolyte imbalance, which is extremely dangerous.

                                                                                                                                              1. re: goodhealthgourmet

                                                                                                                                                My kitty gets duck jerky that is made for pets. She stole the homemade from my bf. I will be more careful in the future though

                                                                                                                                                1. re: suzigirl

                                                                                                                                                  Oh the pet-specific products are fine, I was just concerned about giving them any homemade or store-bought jerky intended for human consumption. That stuff contains too much sodium for *me* to eat, and my system is built to handle much more than theirs ;)

                                                                                                                                                  1. re: goodhealthgourmet

                                                                                                                                                    Actually the sodium is why he makes it from scratch. I have hbp and he makes his with a lot less salt for me.

                                                                                                                                                    1. re: suzigirl

                                                                                                                                                      Hey, at least you have the BF trained well ;) Which duck jerky do you buy?

                                                                                                                                                      1. re: goodhealthgourmet

                                                                                                                                                        The best one I cannot find anymore, but that is uncle Sam's. Very thin and no rough edges. The others are American kennel club and canine prime. These I want him to trim the tough edges. Officially they are made for dogs but my kitty loves them and I guess if they can kill and eat a whole bird a little jerky won't kill her.

                                                                                                                                          2. And I just found a lost package of Oreos hidden from me, in the home office, half gone. The kids hid it from me, not because I eat them, (I would but they tend to give me a stomach ache) but because they knew I would yell at them for eating 20 Oreos...... Sigh, and so it comes around full circle.......

                                                                                                                                            1. I hide just two things. First, nuts. If I want to have any sort of stock of nuts for any sort of cooking, they must be deeply, deeply hidden. Mr. Cay can sniff out nuts in a trice, usually while spending 45 minutes looking for *whatever thing he just had* which was residing by his elbow. Once nuts are found, I consider them Gone, because they will be shortly. (Hi Honey if you're reading this...just go back to looking for your glasses and accept that We Have No Nuts *Available*.)

                                                                                                                                              And related to "nuts" (of the human variety):I have to hide my garlic when my father comes to visit. All of our room temp stored fruit and veg reside in baskets and bowls on a long breakfront in our kitchen - looks pretty, and I can see what I have. Woe to me if I forget to hide the basket with garlic bulbs before my father walks in the door, as he will become immediately suspicious that I am going to feed him something with garlic (I haven't in a quarter century; I have a healthy sense of self preservation). It's...odd, to say the least. "Hide The Garlic" has become a household catchphrase when the honk of a horn in the driveway heralds Dad's arrival. Yes, he hates garlic *that* much, too much to even see a couple of bulbs in a basket. And it WILL become a Big Issue of Re-Education if he glimpses garlic. Easier to hide it.

                                                                                                                                              1. Yes. We have hosted some rather large parties, and I normally have several levels of wine, and also liquor.

                                                                                                                                                As I know most of the guests, I will walk them to one of the bars, and point out what we have available. This is for the "level 1 guests - the people who might like wine, or liquor, but could not tell the difference between a Chalk Hill Chardonnay and a glass of Glen Fiddich." For the "level 2 guests, I teach them the secret password, to get to that next level." For the "level 3 guests - the ones who could tell you a Ch. Figeac from a Ch. St. Pierre," there is a whole new level, including the secret handshake. That will get them the really good stuff, including the 30 year Macallan.

                                                                                                                                                I do not mind serving my "best," but cringe at Aunt Marge mixing the Ch. Latour 70 with Coke.

                                                                                                                                                Also, for my "small batch" Bourbons, I have "branch water" imported, just for those, who know.

                                                                                                                                                Hunt

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                                                                                                                                                1. re: Bill Hunt

                                                                                                                                                  I would never mix your Ch. Latour 70 with Coke. It's much better with 7up. Now can we get into that Macallan and start doing boilermakers please. What kinda brewski's you got around this place?

                                                                                                                                                  1. re: KaimukiMan

                                                                                                                                                    Great sense of humor, K'man.

                                                                                                                                                    1. re: KaimukiMan

                                                                                                                                                      If we're dinkin' at Hunt's place, I'd be bringin' Busch Light.

                                                                                                                                                      1. re: KaimukiMan

                                                                                                                                                        LOL.

                                                                                                                                                        At least you get the idea, where others might not.

                                                                                                                                                        Maybe we need to find a Ch. Latour, for our ChowDown?

                                                                                                                                                        Hunt

                                                                                                                                                        1. re: Bill Hunt

                                                                                                                                                          I'll bring the 7up (regular or diet?) ;-) Want some fruit for that sangria as well?

                                                                                                                                                      2. re: Bill Hunt

                                                                                                                                                        You so better get another coupla locks on your cellar door, my friend.

                                                                                                                                                        http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/902694

                                                                                                                                                        Go about three-quarters the way down the page and see where I invited myself to Caroline's . . . .

                                                                                                                                                        1. re: MGZ

                                                                                                                                                          Right now, I have two, with totally different keys... still, maybe not enough?

                                                                                                                                                          Hunt

                                                                                                                                                          1. re: Bill Hunt

                                                                                                                                                            "[S]till, maybe not enough?"

                                                                                                                                                            I don't know, you can take your chances. . . .

                                                                                                                                                            1. re: MGZ

                                                                                                                                                              Should you drop by for a bit of wine, then we COULD get into the cellar! I need hep, as it's overly full right now, and wife wants the wine out of the entrance, and into the cellar - need room!

                                                                                                                                                              Hunt

                                                                                                                                                              1. re: Bill Hunt

                                                                                                                                                                I'll be back in the morning.

                                                                                                                                                                1. re: MGZ

                                                                                                                                                                  Oh, and, by the way, could you put a couch or something down there?

                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: MGZ

                                                                                                                                                                    Well, the wine cellar is overflowing, to the Nth degree, but we have two guest bedrooms on that level, and one is called "The Wine Room," since it is right next door. The other is "The Pool Room," because of its access to the pool.

                                                                                                                                                                    Hunt

                                                                                                                                                        2. re: Bill Hunt

                                                                                                                                                          Do you have a nifty spread sheet to keep the flotsam and jetsam apart?

                                                                                                                                                          Level 1 guests. What a wonderful idea.

                                                                                                                                                          1. re: linguafood

                                                                                                                                                            Once, I did. However, with the traffic into and out of the cellar, I finally threw up my hands, and declared, "enough is enough."

                                                                                                                                                            Hunt

                                                                                                                                                          2. re: Bill Hunt

                                                                                                                                                            Just for those in the know - "branch water" is a redundancy, but that's not why I'm writing. I just wanted to thank you for making me gasp in amazement again at the depth of your egalitarianism and hospitality. Hope abounds. No, really.

                                                                                                                                                            1. re: mamachef

                                                                                                                                                              How do consider branch water a redundancy? Certainly not all water comes from a creek/branch.

                                                                                                                                                              1. re: mamachef

                                                                                                                                                                Well, many out here, have no clue what a "branch" is, and assume that all water is water, until it comes from a "water boutique." Water is not water, at least not to some. Were it, then brewers would not try to locate in certain locations.

                                                                                                                                                                Being a wino, I do not get hung up there, but many of my friends to.

                                                                                                                                                                Now, if one lives in New Orleans, almost all non-bottled water is Mississippi River Water, with no "branch" in sight.

                                                                                                                                                                Hunt

                                                                                                                                                              2. re: Bill Hunt

                                                                                                                                                                OH FFS.

                                                                                                                                                                1. re: Bill Hunt

                                                                                                                                                                  Not that I would mind being served low to mid range liquor or wine at a party -- expense and ability to enjoy it are certainly factors.

                                                                                                                                                                  That said, I would never separate my guests into levels based on my assessment of their ability to appreciate what I served. If needed, I might have a small dinner party for those I wished to share my treasure with. For one thing, I would find it difficult to explain to a guest who was supposedly invited because I enjoy their company why I was separating them into levels and why they didn't qualify for the next higher one.

                                                                                                                                                                  But my understanding of proper manners is probably lacking -- I never give parties where guests have a choice of bars. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to refill my Franzia plastic cup.

                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: JonParker

                                                                                                                                                                    So far, the separation has never been an issue.

                                                                                                                                                                    Imagine 250 guests at your home, with 4 bars to serve them. There are very good liquors, and wines at each. Then, for those with an appreciation, there are better wines and liquors. Finally, for those, who understand the best in the world, there is yet another level of each.

                                                                                                                                                                    Since I cannot afford to stock each bar with Ch. Latour '70, just in case, plus 30 Year Macallan, for folk, who love a blended Scotch Whiskey, I have to cut off, and some might miss out a bit. However, that does NOT mean that they will not have liquors and wines, that not well above what they are likely to ever taste anywhere.

                                                                                                                                                                    Just thinking about wine, there is first "wine," which I do not serve. Then, one step up is "good wine," and again, likely not to be at my bars, except as a "welcome wine." Next, we have "fine wines," and that is usually my starting point, for most occasions, and finally "great wines." Those are the ones, that leather-bound books are written about, and I try to always have a few. Along the way, there might be "intermediate wines," that are "transitional" up to those "great wines," that are both rare, and expensive.

                                                                                                                                                                    Let's take "Aunt Ethyl," for instance. She grew up drinking Mogen David. Should I serve her a Biale Black Chicken Zinfandel, that she will probably mix with 7-Up? Should I serve her a $1,200 bottle of La Tache?

                                                                                                                                                                    Now, if you can host 250, and provide them with nothing but Romanée Conti '96 (http://myvinfolio.com/products/1996-d...), then you are a better host, than I am. Actually, you are in the league of Donald Trump, and I greatly envy you, as two cases (for 250) would run you about $287,880. I guess that your "party budget" is much higher, than mine.

                                                                                                                                                                    Hunt

                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: Bill Hunt

                                                                                                                                                                      What you should do is not serve a $1,200 bottle of wine at a party for 250 guests. As I clearly said last time, ranking your guests according to your perception of their tastes is what is problematic.

                                                                                                                                                                      Let me ask you this: how would you feel if someone stood up at one of your parties, announced that all guests were being served liquor based on rankings you had devised, and asked them to publicly announce which group they were in? Would your guests in the mid-range group be offended to find out that they weren't in the highest group?

                                                                                                                                                                      But don't take my opinion as being worth anything. Let's send a letter to Judith Martin (Miss Manners) and ask her what she thinks of your scheme. I have a feeling it's not going to garner an overly favorable response.

                                                                                                                                                                      1. re: JonParker

                                                                                                                                                                        Agree 100%

                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: JonParker

                                                                                                                                                                          Well, some of my guests would greatly appreciate a $1200 bottle of wine, just as some would appreciate a 50 year old Macallan.

                                                                                                                                                                          If anyone stood up and protested anything, they would be off my list, and probably the lists of many, many others too. A warning - Do so, at your own risk.

                                                                                                                                                                          I attend two Holiday parties, hosted by serious wine collectors. They do exactly the same thing. Howie, the sommelier, knows who gets what, and does so with but a wink and a nod. No one has ever complained. I get the Ch. Latour '70, while others get a Ch. Gloria (good wine, but not in the class of the Ch. Latour, and especially the '70.)

                                                                                                                                                                          I mean, think about it. If one really, really loves the Charles Shaw Merlot, how likely are they to fully appreciate the Ch. Le Pin?

                                                                                                                                                                          I make my own rules at my own parties, and live by them, so Miss Manners is not needed, at least by me, but thank you.

                                                                                                                                                                          Hunt

                                                                                                                                                                          PS - When attending one of my parties, maybe come up to me, and signify that you can tell the difference between Two Buck Chuck Merlot and Ch. Le Pin, and I will give you both the password, and the secret handshake.

                                                                                                                                                                          1. re: Bill Hunt

                                                                                                                                                                            Shouldn't that be an easy feat -- distinguishing between plonk and "Ch. Le Pin"?

                                                                                                                                                                            1. re: linguafood

                                                                                                                                                                              For some, yes, but for others no.

                                                                                                                                                                              Hunt

                                                                                                                                                                            2. re: Bill Hunt

                                                                                                                                                                              Bill, am I still on your "A" list? I have more Siglo IV's.

                                                                                                                                                                              1. re: Veggo

                                                                                                                                                                                What, no Behikes?!?

                                                                                                                                                                                1. re: Veggo

                                                                                                                                                                                  Veggo,

                                                                                                                                                                                  You are at the very top of my A-list, and no hesitation. You get the password, the secret handshake, and the Little Orphan Annie decoder ring. You are at the very top.

                                                                                                                                                                                  You want the 50 Macallan, or the 1948 Taylor-Fladgate Port, the Cubans, whatever. Just name it.

                                                                                                                                                                                  Hunt

                                                                                                                                                                              2. re: JonParker

                                                                                                                                                                                Oh hell yes- not that Hunt needs direction, I'm not knowledgeable about wine, but i've studied it for sveral years and I always thought I'd have a superior palate for wine, but alas, I do not. It kills me to say that.

                                                                                                                                                                                1. re: EWSflash

                                                                                                                                                                                  Now, at the next party, just talk to me about wines. You will be elevated to the best. Easy to do, if one just knows.

                                                                                                                                                                                  Hunt

                                                                                                                                                                              3. re: Bill Hunt

                                                                                                                                                                                How do you keep who's who straight? If I'm at one of these 4 bars trying to order a drink above my assigned station, how do you stop me? It seems complicated.

                                                                                                                                                                                1. re: Hobbert

                                                                                                                                                                                  When they arrive, I know who was invited, and know their levels of appreciation. I take them to the main bar (with the best selection), and introduce them to Duke, who is my "gatekeeper." That has worked perfectly.

                                                                                                                                                                                  If they are new to me, then I chat them up, and make an on-the-spot determination. They might get past Duke, or they might not - just depends.

                                                                                                                                                                                  Things get a bit tougher for me, concerning liquor and especially high-end Scotch Whiskey, but when it comes to wines, I can tell, in about 30 sec., who likes/appreciates what, and can make an informed decision. I might have missed a very few, but not many.

                                                                                                                                                                                  As to the other bars, many will not have the full compliment of offerings. If Duke is OK with you, you might get the really, really good stuff. Otherwise, Bob or Carley might let you go up a level? It will depend on how you approach them. Always be nice, and gracious, then thankful, if they let you move up. Though I always tip them well, I would want you to do the same thing also. They work hard for me, so deserve whatever you can spare. [Fodder for another thread on tipping servers, at a catered event.]

                                                                                                                                                                                  Hunt

                                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: Bill Hunt

                                                                                                                                                                                    I see. I had visions of alarms ringing and a big net dropping around me to scoop me up. Might be more fun that way.

                                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: Hobbert

                                                                                                                                                                                      I disabled those.

                                                                                                                                                                                      1. re: MGZ

                                                                                                                                                                                        Ah, well that explains it!

                                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: MGZ

                                                                                                                                                                                          LOL!

                                                                                                                                                                                          I wondered what happened to my "nets."

                                                                                                                                                                                          Good one,

                                                                                                                                                                                          Hunt

                                                                                                                                                                                      2. re: Bill Hunt

                                                                                                                                                                                        Folks, we removed some replies here since this was going in circles and starting to get quite personal.

                                                                                                                                                                                2. re: Bill Hunt

                                                                                                                                                                                  Gack! Bill, this would never pass the smell test with any etiquette maven; it's just tacky. Host separate parties for different types of guests. This is what most of us do. If you have meat and potatoes friends, you invite them for that type of meal. If you have more adventurous and appreciative diners, they get a different invite. Separating guests at the same function into different tiers is just wrong.

                                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: pikawicca

                                                                                                                                                                                    Place cards with names may work. Or fail miserably.

                                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: Veggo

                                                                                                                                                                                      Is that like the "kids table"? We all knew we were lesser beings.

                                                                                                                                                                                    2. re: pikawicca

                                                                                                                                                                                      I'm guessing that Hunt has some really $pectacular wines, and as a good host matches the wine with the guests. In his shoes, I'd be sure that the Carlo Rossi people got something better, and the rest got what they were up to. He has some fabulou$ wines in his posession, and wants to give his guests the best wine that they can appreci8ate. If he knows me that well, I have no problem getting his "second-string" wine, since I don't know if I have the palate to truly appreciate the premium offering. Of couse, I'd like to get treated to a small glass full, just in case i have more of a palate for great wine than I thought I did.
                                                                                                                                                                                      Hunt has a lot of money in wine, obviously. If he think that I can't appreciate the best that he has, well, knowing it's Hunt, I wouldn't have that much of a problem being on his second-string wine list, because it's probably pretty damn good too.

                                                                                                                                                                                      1. re: EWSflash

                                                                                                                                                                                        That is exactly what I attempt to provide.

                                                                                                                                                                                        As it would pain me greatly, to have a prime 1er Cru, mixed with 7-Up, I try to pair the guests, with the wines. Sometimes, I might miss, but not that often.

                                                                                                                                                                                        Hunt

                                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: Bill Hunt

                                                                                                                                                                                          Do you honestly have friends that mix wine with 7-Up? I have never heard of such a thing.....

                                                                                                                                                                                      2. re: pikawicca

                                                                                                                                                                                        I cannot speak for "most," but only for myself, and a certain few. Sorry, but one just "knows."

                                                                                                                                                                                        Hunt

                                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: pikawicca

                                                                                                                                                                                          As for the "guest type," we are most often in the position of including a broad spectrum.

                                                                                                                                                                                          For intimate dinner parties, then I have much more control.

                                                                                                                                                                                          Sorry, your plan fails for me - "smell test," or not.

                                                                                                                                                                                          I go with what works for me (and works for many of my friends in similar situations). Your comments do not affect me in any way, and will change absolutely nothing.

                                                                                                                                                                                          Sorry,

                                                                                                                                                                                          Hunt

                                                                                                                                                                                      3. Yes. Especially if I am not suppose to eat that something. :)

                                                                                                                                                                                        1. I forgot to mention that I made cookies (from scratch, NYTimes recipe CCC, but with browned (Kerrygold) butter--and yes, even had them in the fridge for 48 hours to achieve greatness!) for my grandma for Mother's Day... and we went to my grandparents in multiple cars and somehow they ended up in the same car with my older brother... When we got to my grandparents, I opened the tin to find: 1/2 of a cookie left.

                                                                                                                                                                                          I was so sad for my grandma. And he never even apologized. He said, "I got hungry."

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                                                                                                                                                                                          1. re: GraceW

                                                                                                                                                                                            I would want to kill him. Are you sure you aren't talking about my big brother? It sure sounds like him. It would never occur to me to put a disclaimer on my cookies. 'Attention knuckleheads, don't eat these. Gift for grandma'. But just as it wouldn't occur to you to do that, it wouldn't occur to him that eating them was rude, or so it would appear. BTW, do you still have the recipe? Brown butter Kerrygold cookies sound outstanding.

                                                                                                                                                                                            1. re: suzigirl

                                                                                                                                                                                              He is extremely physically-active, and I am the only one in my family who bakes (so he never has access to the 'real-deal' sweets); therefore, I would guess he had one and just could not stop. Of course, he is extremely lean; I am sure he gained negative pounds from eating all of them.

                                                                                                                                                                                              I use the following NYTimes recipe--but I brown the Kerrygold butter. I use an ice-cream scoop to scoop them. And sometimes before I mix in the chips I separate it into thirds and use three different kinds of mix-ins.
                                                                                                                                                                                              http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/09/din...

                                                                                                                                                                                              I also made 3-ingredient peanut butter cookies for my sister.. and I later heard they made it home with them, but they were "shared"--which probably means he ate them too. Brothers.

                                                                                                                                                                                              1. re: GraceW

                                                                                                                                                                                                Thanks for the recipe. You're right. Brothers, what can you do?

                                                                                                                                                                                          2. i have to hide the Three Twins brand of Vanilla Chocolate Chip ice cream from my daughter, and she has to hide the Three Twins brand of Mocha Difference from me.

                                                                                                                                                                                            1. I haven't hidden take out pizza, but I have specifically taken one bite from a slice that I am reserving for myself and put it in the box. That "usually" works..... but not always.

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                                                                                                                                                                                              1. re: Firegoat

                                                                                                                                                                                                Reminds me of a couple of roommates I once had. One of them had a carton of milk in the refrigerator, and his way of staking his claim on it was to put a note on it saying, "I spit in here". The other roommate, quite the joker, added to the note: "So did I."

                                                                                                                                                                                                1. re: ricepad

                                                                                                                                                                                                  I actually learned that move (the pizza bite) in college when I had four roommates. I've found it still deters most boyfriends.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: Firegoat

                                                                                                                                                                                                    This one bite strat works in office communal refrigerators (sometimes) too.

                                                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: HillJ

                                                                                                                                                                                                      In the office fridge, I used to leave my food in a small shopping bag and staple it closed. The few times I left a yogurt with my name on it, someone would remove my name and help themselves

                                                                                                                                                                                                      1. re: cheesecake17

                                                                                                                                                                                                        Amazing! What nerve those yogurt-nappers! Imposters!

                                                                                                                                                                                                        At my first job, I would leave my lunch in my desk on ice. I'd place a plastic snap container with ice inside the drawer and use another container for my lunch. One sat on the other to keep things chilled just to avoid the bother of the communal kitchen. When I ran things on my own terms we had a better policy OR you couldn't use the kitchen.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        Ah, working memories...

                                                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: HillJ

                                                                                                                                                                                                          Who would take a yogurt??! Of all things!! We had milk thieves too. That lasted till someone left a bit of milk in the (cardboard) container and filled the rest with water.

                                                                                                                                                                                                          This reminds me...
                                                                                                                                                                                                          My brother in law used to come for dinner and take home leftovers for lunch the next day. He always requested a brown paper bag. I found out that he'd put the bag in the fridge and label it "mold project for science" or "penicillin test sample"

                                                                                                                                                                                                          1. re: cheesecake17

                                                                                                                                                                                                            Ha, that's very funny!

                                                                                                                                                                                                            1. re: HillJ

                                                                                                                                                                                                              Eventually, the rest of the family caught on!

                                                                                                                                                                                              2. When dining out, we hide items under a napkin.

                                                                                                                                                                                                For example, guacamole. My SO's family will plow through apps like they've just been rescued from a deserted island. We like a little guacamole to go with our meal, but as soon as we order another side of gauc, it gets plowed through before it come around to us. Also, they don't want to pay for the "extra" gaucamole.

                                                                                                                                                                                                Another example is cheese. We learned a "trick" from a friend to order an extra side of cheese for the meal. So we'll order a side to have for our own. The irony is our friend and her mom will use the side we ordered, but not offer their side return. In fact, the daughter yelled at her mom for using "her" side of cheese.

                                                                                                                                                                                                My wife are very sharing with our food. I'd like to think we've moved away from the "hog at the trough" mentality.

                                                                                                                                                                                                1. I was the runt of the litter as a child. I had to hide my Halloween candy from my older brothers. I would put pieces here and there throught the house. My mother would occasionally find the candy while house cleaning. She would ask me if I remembered where all of my stash was. Years later she compared me to a squirrel. I had to keep looking for better hiding places when my brothers discovered what I was up to. As an adult, we have never really needed to hide stuff.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  1. I have just come to realize I need to hide my jars of olives from my husband as he tends to eat a jar as his " dinner" with disregard to the fact I use them for my Martini's, the little shit......

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: Dirtywextraolives

                                                                                                                                                                                                      I thought I was the only one. The man can sit down and kill a whole jar. I would have a huge belly ache and be bloated for days from the salt

                                                                                                                                                                                                      1. re: suzigirl

                                                                                                                                                                                                        LOL, I know, right?? My man can eat beef jerky, salted nuts and chips for dinner, and he has the blood pressure of a 20 year old...... Unreal. The man LOVES his salt.

                                                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: Dirtywextraolives

                                                                                                                                                                                                          My man is the same way. I eat a third of what he does at the table and only season at the stove and he eats a half bag of chips and boiled peanuts while I cook and I have the high blood pressure. Not fair. And he salts at the table

                                                                                                                                                                                                          1. re: suzigirl

                                                                                                                                                                                                            Oh man, I know, so totally unfair.....

                                                                                                                                                                                                            1. re: Dirtywextraolives

                                                                                                                                                                                                              We need to worship some men's metabolisms

                                                                                                                                                                                                              1. re: suzigirl

                                                                                                                                                                                                                I think we need to get our men together for a salt Fest while you and I go out and get some wine & cocktails, LOL!!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                1. re: Dirtywextraolives

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  We will leave them with pickled bits and hot dogs and cured meats and cheeses and go get imbibed. I'm in!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: suzigirl

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Awesome!!

                                                                                                                                                                                                            2. re: suzigirl

                                                                                                                                                                                                              My wife felt the same way, but then, it did catch up with me. Now, we are on the same medication, and both watch some aspects of our diets. Salt is not an issue for us, as we seldom use it, beyond what is included (say with olives, etc.) in the product. One box of Kosher Salt will last, um-m, maybe 10 years with us. OTOH, foie gras will never see leftovers.

                                                                                                                                                                                                              Hunt

                                                                                                                                                                                                              1. re: Bill Hunt

                                                                                                                                                                                                                I hope it never catches up with him but i can relate if it does. I have a box of fine sea salt for cooking that is near full and the one for my man at the table of course sea salt for grinding is near empty. I buy pound boxes and bought the last ones at the same time on sale. I am not sure how long it has been but ten month would be closer than ten years

                                                                                                                                                                                                                1. re: suzigirl

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  As for salt, we seldom add much, if any, during cooking.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Now, about 5 years ago, I was gifted about 8 tins of various salts, with a few peppers. We do use tiny sprinkles of the salts on some dishes, but seldom much. With the exception of the Kaua`i pa`akai, you could not tell that any of the others have even been used - of course we have some other bags of pa`akai, like the one given to my wife by Alan Wong. That one salt DOES get used a bit, and quite a bit more than most of the others. My French Grey Sea Salt has been around for about 20 years, with flakes used here, or there. Even it still looks new.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  For us, that "10 years" is probably closer to the truth.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Hunt

                                                                                                                                                                                                        2. re: Dirtywextraolives

                                                                                                                                                                                                          Oh, the horror!

                                                                                                                                                                                                          In my family, I am the only "olive-eater," so we are good. So long as my long-suffering wife has her wine, she will NEVER miss an olive, or 10.

                                                                                                                                                                                                          Hunt

                                                                                                                                                                                                          1. re: Bill Hunt

                                                                                                                                                                                                            Um, did you NOT catch my moniker? ;) yes, it is a HORROR in my house to not have any olives. And we eat tons of them, I usually have several varieties on hand at all times, just so my DH won't eat my stash for my drinks.......

                                                                                                                                                                                                            1. re: Dirtywextraolives

                                                                                                                                                                                                              Missed the olive moniker.

                                                                                                                                                                                                              I understand. We also have about 6 versions of caper-berries, just in case. Wife does not appreciate them, as I do, but respects my choices.

                                                                                                                                                                                                              Hunt

                                                                                                                                                                                                            2. re: Bill Hunt

                                                                                                                                                                                                              I've loved olives since I was a little bitty kid. Pimento stuffed olives are nirvana. I cured some olives a few years ago that were the best ones i've ever tasted. Couldn't repeat the recipe, but this fall I think i'll try again. Man, they were good.

                                                                                                                                                                                                          2. My husband eats in the middle of the night and often doesn't remember it. As a result, I hide cheese and peanut butter, otherwise I'll frequently wake up to not much left!

                                                                                                                                                                                                            Our old fridge hid things well... unfortunately our new one has clear everything and I can't hide anything under veggies anymore! It stinks :(

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                                                                                                                                                                                                            1. re: C70

                                                                                                                                                                                                              I'm a midnight snacker too. I'll often stay up late watching that day's DVR'd episode of "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" and eating whatever leftovers I had planned on repurposing the next day.

                                                                                                                                                                                                            2. I have an ex from whom our kids still have to hide the chocolate. :P

                                                                                                                                                                                                              1. This whole thread reminded me that growing-up I had a secret candy-drawer in my room where I save a few of my Halloween/holiday candies so no one could eat them. Anyone else have a secret candy drawer as a kid?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                1. re: GraceW

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Nah, just for my cigarettes and booze.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                2. Chocolate, small snacks etc. I hang my apron on the inside of the pantry door. I put a few in the pocket and turn the pocket inward. Thought I was getting away with something until I looked for my stash and it was gone. Not sure if the man or kids got it.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: deputygeorgie

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Or "the cat?"

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Hunt

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: Bill Hunt

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Ha if only. I did find a hand towel in the trash can today that no one would own up to. Think we have a ghost!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      1. re: deputygeorgie

                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Or... maybe the cat?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Hunt

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  2. I had an airedale terrier for many years who ate every food item he could find. No kitchen trashcan for me - it all went right outside, otherwise Boris would eat the contents. Sometimes I was careless - on one memorable occasion, I left a pan of brownies on the counter in a pyrex pan and went to work. Boris got it down, and I came home to a horror movie - the entire kitchen was covered in blood, due to Boris eating the brownies and crunching up the glass pan in the process. He was ok, had cut up his tongue and mouth but it healed quickly, and if he ate any glass it apparently didn't do much damage, the vet was sort of amazed. Boris didn't seem too bothered, he met me at the door all bloody and happy. He was a great dog, except for the one incident when the neighbor's cat came into our fenced yard. Swift end for the kitty, I felt pretty bad about that.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: Teague

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Oh, lordy, my avatar, Gypsy the Airedale,is SO like that! But loves kitties. The worst, as far as mess goes, was the whole bag of rice flour that she ripped open which spilled all over the kitchen floor and then she walked all through it spreading it through house. What a mess! You should see her tiptoe through the room carrying a carton of cottage cheese :)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    2. This thread reminds me of a comedian I had on tape a few years ago.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      "My roommate got tired of me eating all the food so one morning after he had bought groceries, he walked into the kitchen, took the milk out of the fridge, stuck his (male part) in it and declared, "MILK'S MINE F$(&3R!" I said, "yeah, and those Post Toasties are looking pretty safe too." "

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      1. Yep, I have to hide Heksenkyl Liquorice from my S.O. or He will eat the whole bag in a sitting!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                        1. I recently brought a 13x9 pan of lemon bars to a good friend. We both cut out a slice and enjoyed.... and then inexplicably she took the whole pan and put it in a cabinet high above the sink. She explained she has a husband and a young son..... and by gosh she was going to have exactly as much lemon bar goodness as she wanted before she even let them know they were in the house.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                          1. re: Firegoat

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            She sounds exactly like me! My dad and brother are food demolishers, and will not stop eating anything until it's completely gone. If I make a batch of cookies I have to save some for myself and mom or else, they will all be gone and we will have not seen a crumb.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          2. My name is Vicki and I am addicted to rice krispy treats. I hide them as I refuse to share them.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                            1. re: nvcook

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Are these the homemade kind or the packaged kind?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              1. re: GraceW

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I really wish you wouldn't encourage her :)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                1. re: c oliver

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Well originally I mentioned how amazing the new Butter-toffee flavor is (of the packaged kind), but then I did decide that would be too encouraging. So I deleted it. :o)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              2. re: nvcook

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Welcome Vicki,

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                We have a 12-step program, that might help you. You have taken the first step... [Grin]

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                While not something that tempts me, there ARE some things that one might hide - but with only the two of us, no kids, those are few, and very far between. For us, if one just flat loves it, often the other does not. I will never, for instance, eat my wife's pickled okra, so she has not need to hide.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Between the tow of us, I cannot think of any one item, that needs to be hidden, unlike some tangents on this very thread. Food - no.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Hunt