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babybun May 21, 2013 05:07 PM

Staying at the Intercontinental Park Lane and looking for some fun, interesting dining spots around town and don't mind venturing out of neighborhood. Somewhere for 2 young at heart 50 year old jaded New Yorkers who like rock n roll music, good food and a fabulous atmosphere.
Any ideas?

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  1. zuriga1 May 21, 2013 10:51 PM

    If you are jaded New Yorkers (I guess I fit in that category, too), I'd suggest trying some places that have great food and a nice ambiance... also some great gastropubs. Try to find places that would be unusual for Manhattan.

    Here are some of my favorites and the favorites of others - you can do the research.
    Locanda Locatelli
    Bistrot Bruno Loubet
    The Ledbury
    The Bull and Last
    The Square
    Roganic

    I never much liked the Indian food in NYC. It's terrific here so I'd definitely try to get to at least one meal of that cuisine. Dishoom is 'different,' and good for lunch... the weekend buffet at Bombay Brasserie is another choice.. Quilon, Moti Mohal. Opinions vary on most of those. :-)

    I'm not sure what you mean by 'fabulous atmosphere.' Do you want funky, unusual, fine dining and elegance?

    Book ahead!

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      babybun May 22, 2013 05:00 AM

      Thanks, Zuriga.
      What I mean by fabulous atmosphere is different or unusual for someone who lives in Manhattan. Definitely Non-Touristy.
      I would love some suggestions for a Tea, a great pub with great food, a dining and elegant spot and anything in between.
      I will be traveling solo and exploring on my own for 2 days before joining my husband so I also need suggestions for lunches & dinners while I am exploring on my own.

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        klyeoh May 22, 2013 06:18 AM

        I tend to find that in London, unlike, in Manhattan - even the so-called "touristy" spots (e.g. Rules, Simpson's in the Strand, J. Sheekey) are very good, and one usually finds a good mix of locals there, together with the out-of-towners.

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          zuriga1 May 22, 2013 07:17 AM

          My husband and I had a fantastic tea at the Montcalm Hotel near Marble Arch. It was huge and served in a lovely room.. and great service. We had so much food that we couldn't finish it all. They have several priced Teas to choose from, and one wouldn't need dinner after the large one!

          Use the search box and lots of names will come up. Even Sotheby's does a tea and Fortnum & Mason is very popular, too.

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          DavidT May 22, 2013 06:13 AM

          Great Queen Street (on Great Queen Street) is very good for a casual lunch or dinner. J. Sheekey (north of Trafalger Square) is very good for seafood and a rather classy/glamourous (without being stuffy) atmosphere.

          For ideas/suggestion on gastropubs, where to go for tea, etc. be sure to use the search feature in the upper right-hand corner of this page.

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            klyeoh May 22, 2013 06:23 AM

            DavidT - have you tried Scott's on Mount Street, Mayfair? I was enroute to Kai Mayfair for dinner last weekend when I saw a large Japanese diplomatic contingent head into the restaurant. I was intrigued as the Japanese are very much sticklers for good quality seafood, and I'm just wondering about the quality of the kitchen at Scott's, which seemed to offer good, old-fashioned British cooking:
            http://www.scotts-restaurant.com/

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              DavidT May 22, 2013 10:12 AM

              I have never been to Scott's. Wilton's on Jermyn Street is another place known for its (expensive) seafood and I have not been there either.

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                klyeoh May 22, 2013 03:29 PM

                Ah, Wilton's - my Dad celebrated his 70th birthday there a few years back, I think the bill worked up to an eye-watering £150 per head!

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            StayThirsty May 22, 2013 07:48 AM

            Tea at Cocomaya is fun and the atmosphere is certainly funky. You may also want to go for drinks at the Crazy Coqs (part of the Brasserie Zedel "complex"). It is a sort of throw back to the cabaret/supper clubs of a by-gone era and if the person performing suits your interests, it can be a highly entertaining few hours. Although somewhat predictable, the Wolesely still offers great atmosphere. I wouldn't bother with Balthazar as you're from NYC, but you might just pop your head in if you're feeling homesick...they have replicated the interior almost exactly and it is sort of weird to look around. The Bull and Last is a great "pub" with great food, but you may not want to venture out that far. Indian in London is far superior to anything you will find in NYC and you can also find several asian options in Central London unlike home where you need to visit Queens. For Sunday lunch, Brawn is very good as is my regular suggestion...Hawksmoor in Seven Dials. Re seafood, I prefer Scotts over J. Sheekey, but you cannot really go wrong at either venue. Quality is comparable, but Scotts is perhaps more elegant whereas I prefer Sheekey pre/post theatre. I'm not sure what the rock and roll music point is, but for an environment somewhat different you should head out to the east end and explore Spitalfields, Redchurch street etc. Lots of indpendent boutiques and restos worth visiting.

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              babybun May 22, 2013 12:51 PM

              Thanks, Stay Thirsty. Crazy Coqs sounds fun too. I've got The Bull and Last on my list too.

            2. howler May 22, 2013 09:45 AM

              i really have this soft spot for posters who describe themselves as jaded new yorkers. come to think of it, everyone coming from ny describes themselves as such.

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                zuriga1 May 22, 2013 12:02 PM

                We will have to discuss the meaning of that word, 'jaded,' and why it's used and why people from Chicago or SF not usually call themselves that when the lifestyle can be very similar.

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                  babybun May 22, 2013 12:47 PM

                  OK, Howler, maybe I'm jaded and maybe I'm not.
                  I don't know, the fact that I don't stop, stare, or flinch when walking down 3rd avenue in midtown and encounter a string bikini clad muscle-man on a little girl's stingray bicycle in front of PJ Clarks?
                  Lets not split hairs here, lets EAT!
                  I just want some good recommendations and appreciate your input.

                2. Paprikaboy May 22, 2013 10:55 AM

                  You've already had some great suggestions and apologies for repeating some of them

                  The Wolseley-not the best food in London but a fantastic room and great service.Would suggest breakfast rather than Lunch or Dinner
                  Roganic- the best food I've had in London. Very relaxed service.It was a little hushed when I went but the engaging staff more than made up for it.
                  Terroirs- charcuterie and interesting wines by the glass. I like to sit at the bar and the staff are always happy to chat away about wine.
                  Kopapa- cosy place with good service and interesting small plates.
                  Rules- classic English dining in Londons oldest restaurant. Not sure if your coming during game season or not? Even if you don't dine there try the cocktail bar upstairs.
                  Salt Yard- buzzy atmosphere and great tapas.Never disappoints.

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                    Harters May 22, 2013 11:51 AM

                    I havnt eaten at Roganic but assuming the food is anywhere near as good as the mother ship, L'Enclume, then it should be some of the most exciting food available in the country.

                    In due course, I will nip down the road to eat at his newly opened place in Manchester but I'm still feeling a bit miffed at the Midland Hotel turning over the French to him. No sense of class or history, IMO - not what you expect from one of the country's "grand hotels".

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                      Nancy S. May 22, 2013 02:11 PM

                      Isn't Roganic ending its run in June. I recall reading that they're booked solid, at least for dinner, through the end. I'll be back in London in July and would have liked to return. It's indeed excellent.

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                        Harters May 22, 2013 02:17 PM

                        It may well be closing soon - certainly Rogan always regarded it as a short term project. Seems to have done its job raising his profile - second Michelin star for L'Enclume and lots of telly work.

                        Perhaps some evidence that, in restaurants terms as in other fields of our society, there's London and then there's the rest of the UK.

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