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May 21, 2013 03:59 AM

Quiet dining

Looking for restaurants where conversation is possible without shouting.

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  1. There are almost endless possibilities so I think we would need some more information, probably most importantly your price point.

    1. One obvious suggestion (at least to me) is Tocqueville.

        1. re: bronwen

          Vice Versa
          La Silhouette
          Atlantic Grill (other dining room)
          Le Bernardin
          The Modern
          and a host of others

          1. re: arepo

            Don't hide your light under a bushel,
            (or under bronwen, as the case may be!)

            1. re: Phil Ogelos

              Phil Ogelos:

              Please explain your post. I am confused.
              Is this some kind of insult to me?
              For what reason, if so?

              1. re: arepo

                i think he meant that you appear to have replied to bronwen's comment, not the original post.

                there have been some changes to how posts display here lately that seem to bury responses to subsequent posters more than when people respond to the OP.

                pretty certain no insult was intended.

                1. re: tex.s.toast

                  Thank you for explaining for him.

                  All I saw when I looked at Bronwen's post was the name Picholine.
                  Being that I never bothered looking at his, or anyone else' posts, preferring to just answer the OP's question (which was a rather "open" one in this case), I never saw that restaurant listed.
                  The way they list things here is so off-putting that I have been tricked way too often to respond to something from months ago or even years ago because it was on the top of the list.
                  I have learned to look at dates first.
                  I really cannot bother looking at every single person's post before I respond -- I'd be here all day.

                  1. re: arepo

                    i'm of the opinion that reading previous responders posts generates better discussions, BUT if you are only interested in responding to the original poster, then use the "[leftward curved arrow] reply" button on the original post - otherwise the system that CH uses to display and organize posts will put your comment in as a response to another reply, as opposed to the original post.

                    1. re: tex.s.toast

                      That's a great hint. I never knew that before. It certainly is helpful.
                      Sometimes I have the time to read all other posts, but more often than not I just prefer to respond to the original poster.
                      You've been very kind.

                2. re: arepo

                  Exactly what tex.s.toast said, arepo; you put effort into your post but it was obscured. No insult was intended.
                  (Thank you for saving my bacon, mr. toast.)

              2. re: arepo

                If people are going to just throw out restaurants without context then how about:

                Eleven Madison Park
                Per Se
                Le Bernardin
                The Modern Dining Room (center tables)
                Jean George
                Mas Farmhouse
                Blue Hill

                1. re: Spiritchaser

                  The one time I dined at Mas, the ambient noise was very disturbing. My companion and I could hardly talk.

                  1. re: mbfant

                    Farmhouse or La Grillade? I think La Grillade can be noisy but never had that problem at Farmhouse (which is not doubting your experience, I'm just surprised).

                    1. re: Spiritchaser

                      Farmhouse, but I don't recall it being called anything but Mas and you just had to know that was French for farmhouse. Perhaps it has changed configuration since my visit? In any case, it was a charming, proven├žal-farmhouse-chic-looking room, definitely not a grillade (if that's what I think it is).

                      Another, very recent, unbearable noise experience was at The Modern Bar, which I go to often and love. Two of us had one of the tables at the back wall and I got a headache from the couple absolutely screaming (though it seemed they were conversing pleasantly, just loudly) to my right. But even after they left, I couldn't hear a word my dining companion said, which was seriously awful since she was my editor and it was all important. I really hate that.

                      1. re: mbfant

                        Yes, I know what it translates to. "Farmhouse" and "La Grillade" are used to differentiate between their two restaurants, since the designation is good enough for the restaurant themselves to use I figured it would work for me as well.

                        And regarding The Bar Room at The Modern, if you were mentioning it due to my recommendation, I didn't recommend the bar room which on any given day can be deafening, I was recommending The DIning Room and specifically the two tops along the glass wall.

                        1. re: Spiritchaser

                          No, I didn't mean you shouldn't use the designations (nor to imply you didn't know what a mas was). I merely wondered whether there was only one of them when I was there, which was quite a few years ago, since I didn't remember the duality.

                          No, I didn't mention the Modern Bar in response to anything you wrote, but merely as a recent experience of way too much noise. The Modern restaurant is clearly a different scene.

            2. You can probably cross-off any restaurant of note in the Meatpacking District.

              1. Any very expensive and most very cheap restaurants. Nothing in between.