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Good Source for Flatware?

Aloha Kakou:

It's time to upgrade my flatware. I'm looking for a good (and hopefully affordable) source for quality stainless flatware. Most interested in simple, clean, classic patterns in a larger dinner size and with heft--like you'd expect in a nice restaurant.

Someone awhile back posted a link to a good website, but I can't find it now.

Mahalo,
Kaleo

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  1. From personal experience, I can heartily recommend
    http//www.oneida.com.

    It has wonderful heft and maintains a wonderful lustre after decades of dishwasher cleansing. A friend had the Michaelangelo design, or similar, and it was used daily. I acknowledge it wasn't handcrafted by gnomes in Sweden, or under the mountain by trolls in Germany, but it looked great on the table and had a marvelous weight in the hand.

    I use the past tense as he sold it to his sister in San Francisco. New wife, new flatware.

    1. Ditto on the Oneida site. I got mine there over 20 years ago (Juilliard pattern) and it is just wonderful. It has nice heft and length to it and the quality of the stainless is excellent. I recently added another set of 12 so I can have 24 place settings for buffets and bigger parties and the recent quality seems to be the same as the older ones I have, so it doesn't seem to have suffered the fate of some companies that ship out somewhere and then come back a pale version of the original. They have really good sales too.

      1. Beware that the Oneida is not the same as it was 20 years ago (what is, right?). But I have the cheapie True Rose 18/0 not the better 18/10 or 18/8. Last year I ordered additional spoons and forks and they are lighter, no longer made in USA (Vietnam) and two spoons out of eight had defects in the bowl.

        OTOH, they don't bend out of shape, discolor or break. They serve their purpose.

        European flatware is larger and heavier, might want to look into that.

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        1. re: Jerseygirl111

          Thanks. I do want to focus on the Euro stuff...

          [Edit: It was this site that someone linked to awhile back: http://www.silversuperstore.com/conti... ]

        2. How about a restaurant supply store? (e.g. the one in Shoreline on 99)

          http://www.seattlerestaurantstore.com...

          looks like they mainly carry Oneida

          1. How about Crate&Barrel? I got a really nice simple, modern set from them some years ago.

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            1. re: sr44

              We've had our Crate and Barrell flatware for several years and it will plainly last decades. Solid stuff. I'd also check TJ Maxx/Marshall's. They occasionally have boxed sets of very nice quality flatware at great prices. As with anything they sell, you need to check frequently.

              1. re: sr44

                I bought my flatware at CB2, which is owned by Crate & Barrel. I have this set: http://www.cb2.com/20-piece-pattern-4... and I love it, very durable and still looks great after a number of moves and dishwasher use. For $100 for 8 place settings I've been very pleased. I now just use it for fancier occasions since we use my SO's stuff for every day.

                1. re: sr44

                  The problem with Crate and Barrel is that they don't carry the same patterns year after year, so you might have trouble finding a piece if you need to replace it. This may not matter as much with unbreakable stuff like flatware, but it sure did matter with our wine glasses. :(

                  1. re: Isolda

                    Yes, that's a problem. Thank God for eBay.

                2. I have a few pieces of Ginkgo which I like very much:

                  http://www.ginkgoint.com/

                  You can find some current deals on Ginkgo at Overstock.com:

                  http://www.overstock.com/Home-Garden/...

                  1. Some things I considered(truthfully my mother told me to think about) when acquiring my flatware were that it would be open stock so I could replace pieces as neccessary and have a satin or some type of finish that would accept a patina gracefully. She thought it was important to have a serrated edge on the table knife so it would really cut. She was a very practical person and it was good advice. It is easier now with Ebay to acquire extras of flatware, especially if the pattern is no longer made, that came in sets vs open stock than it used to be.

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                    1. re: wekick

                      Check out Replacements Ltd. They are on line of course. They handle thousands of patterns, china, crystal, flatware. They have anything for table top. I started selling to them when they were getting established. I went to work for a company that had loads of discontinued dinnerware stashed in the basement. They did not know what to do with it. We found it a good home and made a lot of people happy.

                      If you are ever in High Point, NC be sure to stop in and check out the store. There are some amazing tabletop items.

                    2. Don't like the gnomes as the pewter style ware has a nasty habit of breaking. I do not know if this is from poor design or metallurgy. Skan design always seems lite in the hand.

                      WMF of Germany is widely acknowledged as a major source of quality flatware. I do not recommend the bronze with rosewood handles. Beautiful, but tarnishes.

                      You could jump a flight and go direct to my favorite department store Kaufhof, or rival Karstadt.

                      Have fun.

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                      1. re: INDIANRIVERFL

                        I have some WMF and I don't believe their flatware sold here is made in Germany anymore (as mine weren't..). The pieces I have -- several serving sets -- are fairly thin and flimsy, compared to my other [non-WMF] flatware (although not so flimsy that they bend).

                        I otherwise am a WMF fan though (own several of their pressure cookers and other items). It seems like they are trying to build a bigger market here in the US.

                        1. re: iyc_nyc

                          I was very surprised to see that a number of the WMF kitchen tools are made in China. Be careful. I've had Towle Beaded Antique for at least 35 years. It was made in Germany. I needed to replace some knives. I ordered and when they arrived there was a visible difference with what I have and what I ordered. The new knives were made in China.

                          1. re: Candy

                            Hi, Candy: "WMF...The new knives were made in China."

                            Tell me about it. I once had 6 Waterford Lismore "Roly-Poly" crystal glasses for cocktails (now 3 left). You can still buy them, but what you get is Polish-made, and do not stand up to a comparison with the Irish-made originals. Like Diogenes, I search endlessly for new old-stock.

                            Aloha,
                            Kaleo

                            PS: Have you seen the latest flatware offerings from Restoration Hardware? I have not handled them, but some RH stylist is paying attention...

                      2. I have a set of Dansk I've been using daily since 1998 and they are still in good shape - no bending, pitting etc. Still shiny. Nice heft. They go in the dishwasher daily too. I hadn't really thought much about it but now that I do, I'm actually really impressed with how they've held up.

                        Styles are a little more contemporary http://www.dansk.com/flatware?N=1370&...

                        (I have the Rondure)

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                        1. re: ziggylu

                          I have to second Dansk.

                          I have mine, which I got for my wedding over 20 years ago. Still beautiful.

                          But even more importantly, I just inherited my mom's (same pattern as mine) from her wedding in the late 1950's. Except where the disposal got them, the pieces are DANDY.

                          So not cheap per place setting (you'll pay between $35 or $50, depending on where you but) but the quality is fab and it LASTS.

                        2. I use Replacements.com to buy stainless: http://www.replacements.com/showroom/...

                          They carry almost any brand you can think of, and just about every style. They also have very good prices. Our pattern was discontinued, and while I was happy to just look for a new one, my husband wasn't, so I was able to replace the missing or battered pieces thru Replacements.

                          1. Spend time at Silver Superstore, online. http://www.silversuperstore.com/

                            I bought flatware there about 2 years ago, and I was very pleased with everything. I sent for several pieces before I decided. I paid no shipping or tax. Everything was done as expected.

                            The prices are very competitive.

                            Here is the pattern I chose: http://www.silversuperstore.com/yamaz...

                            I got so much help from posters on Chowhound, and I learned so much from their posts. I want to wish you happy hunting.

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                            1. re: sueatmo

                              Thanks, Sue:

                              I really like the Ascot pattern by Ricci.

                              Aloha,
                              Kaleo

                              1. re: kaleokahu

                                That is a lovely pattern!

                                Wandering the website, I found Towle Magnum, very pretty as well - and on sale.

                                http://www.silversuperstore.com/towle...

                                http://www.annarbordinnerware.com/tow...

                                1. re: happybaker

                                  I like this too. Very simple but it looks like it would fit into one's hand very nicely.

                                  1. re: happybaker

                                    Hi, HB:

                                    You know, that pattern is very pretty. I like "machined" looking things. But I once had a set that featured 3-tine forks, and before I junked them, that feature *really* made my but chew gum. Can't go that route again...

                                    Aloha,
                                    Kaleo

                                      1. re: law_doc89

                                        This would be great for multitasking on the boat. Add a hook, and I can use them to both catch and eat the fish. :-)

                                  2. re: kaleokahu

                                    Well, obviously you have good taste! It is a beautiful pattern.

                                    1. re: sueatmo

                                      Yeah, well, Sue, sometimes I wish I were less tasteful. That pattern is about $75 per place setting. I bit tonight on 4 settings to try it out. But at this stage in my life, I want something nice.

                                      After 20 years, I'm just really tired of ultra-light, bendy, and tiny flatware. Wahine and I also have a 4 setting set of really good sterling, so we debated the merits of investing in more (and just using it every day) vs. new top-quality SS. The sterling--Steiff Old Maryland--is SO outrageously expensive I would never enjoy shelling out thousands of dollars to make it 8 settings. That's the cost of a decent used car!

                                      Aloha,
                                      Kaleo

                                      1. re: kaleokahu

                                        Oh, I know that sterling pattern! I have the old Kirk Repousse.

                                        I understand totally about wanting nice flatware. I was so happy to get rid of my old Oneida stuff. I love my new flatware. Except that if I want really clean knife blades, I have to hand wash them. Other than that, its all good.

                                        Happy eating!

                                2. I saw these at Heath Ceramics a couple of months ago. They're made by David Mellor, and I, too, love them for their machined look, especially the "London" and "Minimal". They ain't cheap, though.

                                  http://www.heathceramics.com/cook-din...

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                                  1. re: alarash

                                    Hi, alarash:

                                    Thanks, my friend. Are any of his patterns Continental-sized?

                                    Aloha,
                                    Kaleo

                                      1. re: INDIANRIVERFL

                                        Hi, Indianriver:

                                        No, I wish. You can get steak knives in Ricci Ascot, but they are spendy--about $35 a copy. As are the rest of the serving pieces.

                                        I have a half-finished set of 8 steak knives waiting for scales, and I still have the pipe dream of finishing them. So I'm going to hold off on the matching Ascot ones...

                                        Aloha,
                                        Kaleo

                                  2. my first stop is always TuesdayMornings I have found amazing deals there. I found aMauviel Copper sauce pan there and Zwilling J.A. Henckels Flatware

                                    1. Not sure exactly what you want. There is designer stainless that rivals sterling in cost. Clean, classic? Dansk Odin is the bet, but just not sure what you want. Cheap and durable? Check Nisbets for restaurant/hotel. Please say more.

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                                      1. re: law_doc89

                                        Hi, LD:

                                        No, I want nice stuff this time, so not cheap for cheap's sake.

                                        I already decided on Ricci Ascot. http://www.silversuperstore.com/ricci... What learned I wantED was:

                                        --continental-sized
                                        --heavy
                                        --classic, subtle pattern
                                        --18/10 stainless
                                        --not likely to be discontinued
                                        --good selection of less-common and specialty pieces

                                        It came down to Ricci Ascot and Couzon's Le Perle. http://www.silversuperstore.com/couzo...

                                        Are you serious about Dansk Odin? With respect, I'd consider that pattern one of the ugliest I've ever seen (although the "fishin'" one you pointed out above comes close). I find the Odin spork hideous...

                                        I'll check out Nisbets, though. Thanks.

                                        Aloha,
                                        Kaleo

                                        1. re: kaleokahu

                                          Jens Quistgaard

                                          Interesting. Jens Quistgaard
                                          Is a seminal designer of the mid 20th.

                                          1. re: law_doc89

                                            Hi, LD:

                                            Yes, interesting. Even seminal designers (4,000+ designs for Ted Nierenberg alone) have a few clunkers.

                                            I like Quistgard's Tjorn pattern for Dansk, and his Champagne sterling for O.V. Mogensen. I can even appreciate Fjord in a way. But Odin is, IMO, just listless in form. Food falls off the forks' tines, and the "screwdriver tip" knife is an abomination. I think by 1973, when Odin was created, Quistgard was somewhat played out.

                                            Aloha,
                                            Kaleo

                                          2. re: kaleokahu

                                            How are you finding the Ricci Ascot after having owned it for some time?

                                            I'm considering their modigliani set and haven't really been able to find many reviews of Ricci in general.

                                            http://www.silversuperstore.com/ricci...

                                            Thanks

                                            1. re: Kasperek04

                                              Hi, Kasperek:

                                              I like it fine, thanks. It's holding up very well. My only minor issue is that the tablespoon's bowl is quite large. I've picked up some of the serving pieces at a deep discount on Amazon, and like those, too.

                                              I would buy this pattern again if I had the choice.

                                              Aloha,
                                              Kaleo

                                        2. I picked some flatware up at a Restaurant Supply store locally, for my son and I can say that I'm disappointed in the heft. They won't last long.

                                          I also saw sets at my local Costco and was impressed with the heft and the price. Not much more than the Supply store. I've had good luck with all of Costco's products and their return policy is great if you're not happy.