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  • Candy May 19, 2013 12:19 PM
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I hate that (non) word. it is like fingernails on a blackboard to me. There are so many terms to describe a place that are legitimate words. Does this irritate anyone else.

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  1. Interesting. Never bothered me. To me it's just a synonym for restaurant, and a quick search suggests it has been in use for over 100 years.

    I'm not sure what it takes to be a legitimate word (I don't care how long they're around, "sammie" and "stout" will never seem legitimate to me), but eatery seems okay to me

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    1. re: debbiel

      Sammie irks me no end, but stout? As in Guinness?

      1. re: Jeri L

        Sorry. That was supposed to be stoup, ray's soup/stew word.

        1. re: debbiel

          "That was supposed to be stoup, ray's soup/stew word."

          Agree, especially since it is a "real" word:

          Definition of STOUP
          1
          a : a beverage container (as a glass or tankard)
          b : flagon

          2: a basin for holy water at the entrance of a church

      2. re: debbiel

        > Sammie

        Same with "footie" - is this an English thing?

        1. re: GraydonCarter

          "Same with "footie" - is this an English thing?"

          What is the context?

          1. re: GraydonCarter

            Yep, footy - very common amongst we Britons (not just English). Unfortunately.

            1. re: Harters

              Amongst "us" Britons?

              1. re: bcc

                I assume you're making a grammatical correction. In which case, many thanks.

                Of course, this assumes you're right and I'm wrong) - http://nitpickersnook.com/2012/08/08/...

                1. re: Harters

                  Please take it in good humour! And you are correct in your assumption that I am not one of the Britons. And, by the way, your nitpicker website confirms that a pronoun that is the object of a preposition is in the objective case. And yes, I am a nitpicker.

        2. Absolutely. It disgusts me to hear it and I won't enter any place that calls itself one. I don't know why it happens, but I read an interesting article the other day:

          http://www.slate.com/articles/life/th...

          I also hate any "gastro" words. My daughter refuses to eat "meatloaf" but happily downs the same mixture in the form of "meatballs."

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          1. re: phofiend

            Poor moist. I had no idea.

          2. I think it is a silly word to describe a restaurant. Likewise, I do not care for the term "watering hole" to describe a bar, etc.

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            1. re: jlhinwa

              Just curious...really. But why is it a silly word? ( and not to describe a restaurant really( it's a noun, basically a synonym for restaurant, not an adjective)

              1. re: debbiel

                Good question, as my silly comment was off the cuff and it was more of a reaction than a deep thought, haha.

                I general, I prefer using simple terms to describe things--a place you drink is a bar, a place you eat is a restaurant, a place you shop is a store, a place you get money is a bank, etc.

              2. re: jlhinwa

                And if you're from New Jersey, Bars are called Gin Mills.

                1. re: Nanzi

                  Ah, gin mill. Love that name!

                  1. re: Nanzi

                    HA, I've heard that in CT, too--very old-timey and of a certain era (my mom's, for sure).

                2. Why is it a (non)word? It is in the dictionary, so it is a legitimate word. I used to hate "melty" and wondered when that became a word. Well, I looked it up and it became official in 2007.

                  1. Eatery is a handy word to cover a range of places where food is served, not just restaurants but, say, lunch counters, beachfront stands, bars, and more. And all for only six characters. If there's another word that can do so much for so little, I'd be very happy to know about it.

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                    1. re: mbfant

                      There is a similar word in Dutch, eethuis. (Eat or eating house). It is more casual and smaller than a restaurant.

                      What I can't abide is burger chains calling themselves "restaurants".

                    2. Q: Is it something about words that end in "Y" or the "Y" sound that's the problem?

                      I've seen a few threads about words that don't catch much love when used...personally, I don't get it. Perhaps certain words are more catchy but words that irritate? People irritate, words suffer for it.

                      I grant you eatery doesn't roll off the tongue...but what can you do...just don't use it in a sentence :)

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                      1. re: HillJ

                        I personally have a problem with words that end in "Q", irritate me to no end.

                        1. re: jrvedivici

                          lol....funny.

                          1. re: jrvedivici

                            Iraq can do that to people. Now, I'm off to eat BBQ,

                            1. re: Firegoat

                              And I'm off to Alaska to sail my umiaq.

                              1. re: ttoommyy

                                Why are you all trying to irritate me?????

                                1. re: ttoommyy

                                  Don't forget your toque, eh.

                                2. re: Firegoat

                                  Brilliant !!

                            2. It bugs me too, for no real reason. Ditto "que" instead of barbeque, "ethnic" to describe anything that American/Western European and "joints" to describe a casual place.

                              I remember reading once that Graydon Carter banned the word "eatery" from Vanity Fair.

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                              1. re: LeoLioness

                                "Ditto "que" instead of barbeque,"

                                Que? I've heard and seen "cue" but never "que."

                                1. re: ttoommyy

                                  Either. Both. NO!

                                2. re: LeoLioness

                                  I would ban "barbeque" in favor of the phonetically correct barbecue. I can't help reading "barbeque" as "barbeck" -- sort of like berry-boned for beribboned.

                                  1. re: mbfant

                                    but what about BBQ or its variations?

                                    1. re: KaimukiMan

                                      variations? I am not so hard-hearted that I would ban BBQ. But I would keep it in informal contexts.

                                3. I think it says a lot about a place if it describes itself as an eatery - none of it good.

                                  1. I have to admit, many, many, many things in life easily irritate me (especially as I get older) but I love any and all words. Made up, antiquated, borrowed from another language, whatever. They're all good. Now, misuse them or spell them wrong, that's another story.

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                                    1. re: ttoommyy

                                      If I make up a word, how do you know if I misuse or spell it?

                                      ** For all in tents and porpoises, of course.

                                      1. re: jrvedivici

                                        Well, that's an exception of course. Hey, I just write stuff here, I don't actually think about the words I'm using and what they mean! :)

                                        1. re: jrvedivici

                                          I think you meant "intensive porpoises". Sheesh.

                                          1. re: NonnieMuss

                                            Eggsactly

                                          2. re: jrvedivici

                                            For all intensive purposes, silly!

                                            It's a doggy dog world out here.

                                            Low and behold (makes me think of cows)

                                            Now I've gone and put you through the ringer.

                                        2. Is it when a restaurant names itself an “eatery” that bothers you, or when someone refers to it as such? It’s not a word that I use myself, but it doesn’t really bother me.
                                          We passed a new restaurant that calls itself a “dining den” the other day, while trying to find a spot for dinner. It sent my two aunties into peals of laughter, and made for some fun dinner conversation.

                                          1. So how do you feel about a bakery?

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                                            1. re: Firegoat

                                              Good one. And buttery. And creamery.

                                              1. re: mbfant

                                                And winery?

                                                1. re: debbiel

                                                  And distillery.
                                                  And cannery.
                                                  And butchery
                                                  And confectionery
                                                  And fishery.
                                                  And grocery.
                                                  And hatchery.
                                                  And spicery.

                                                  1. re: ttoommyy

                                                    So what's wrong with eatery?

                                                    1. re: mbfant

                                                      "So what's wrong with eatery?"

                                                      Maybe the OP thinks it's too generic? Or associates it with diner-type places?

                                                      1. re: mbfant

                                                        I'm convinced it's the words that end in Y or Y sound thing....
                                                        too cutesy (oh there's another) for some people.

                                                        1. re: HillJ

                                                          I understand things like "sammie" and "veggie" which are shortened, "cutesy" versions of larger words being disliked; but as for "eatery," I just don't get it. It's a perfectly valid word.

                                                          1. re: ttoommyy

                                                            Which is what I said up thread too. I don't get it myself but there's appears to be some correlation for other people who are annoyed by words ending in Y or Y sounds.

                                                            How much energy do I give this in my own speech... None-sie.

                                                            1. re: HillJ

                                                              Maybe we could change it to -ie endings to make it more upscale like fromagerie. Eaterie, or even Mangerie.

                                                              1. re: chowser

                                                                Only if you put "La" in front.

                                                                1. re: mcf

                                                                  Yes, la mangerie. Although that could almost seem religious. Is that where Jesus lay?

                                                                2. re: chowser

                                                                  Many, many years ago at an arthouse movie theater in NYC, a very pretentious young man was showing his friends what was available to eat. Upstairs they had healthful snacks like granola, fruit juices, etc. Downstairs, the conventional movie theater candy, popcorn and the like were available, which he announced to his friends as being "non-herbal sweeties." To this day, my friends and I use that term, jokingly of course!

                                                                  1. re: ttoommyy

                                                                    That's so funny. I could see my friends and I calling each other that--non-herbal sweeties (carnivores) and herbal sweeties (vegetarians).

                                                                    1. re: chowser

                                                                      Ha! Think of me when you do! :)

                                                                  2. re: chowser

                                                                    mangerie is an actual (rather archaic) French word, meaning eating a lot, binging on food. Like beuverie is a drinking binge. Hardly upscale!

                                                          2. re: ttoommyy

                                                            and bakery

                                                            1. re: ttoommyy

                                                              We have a fruitery in town--been here forever. I personally dig the word fruitery. Fruitery. Fruitery. Fruitery. Oh, and don't touch the fruit in the fruitery, they will select it FOR you. :)
                                                              http://middletown-ct.patch.com/listin...

                                                              1. re: kattyeyes

                                                                I think any market willing to find the perfect produce for its customers has earned the word: fruitery!

                                                                I've never seen that word before

                                                                1. re: kattyeyes

                                                                  fruiterie is French for greengrocer's, fruit and vegetable shop.

                                                                2. re: ttoommyy

                                                                  In the UK cookbooks are called cookery books.
                                                                  http://www.amazon.co.uk/Essential-Coo...

                                                                  1. re: Gio

                                                                    "Cooking" on the whole is "cookery" in the UK. Someone correct me if I am wrong, even a kitchen can be referred to as a "cookery."

                                                                    1. re: ttoommyy

                                                                      I have never heard of a kitchen being called a cookery. Perhaps in historical times?

                                                                      1. re: Harters

                                                                        Could be. I seemed to remember it being used in that way, so I went to the dictionary and it was listed as the second definition of the word.

                                                                      2. re: ttoommyy

                                                                        I have recently been made aware of the existence of a old magazine called, "American Cookery." Here's a photo of the 1933 edition...

                                                                         
                                                                      3. re: Gio

                                                                        So maybe CH would be an eatery site.

                                                                        1. re: Tripeler

                                                                          And NAF board is the tippery board...;-)

                                                                          1. re: chowser

                                                                            Not a board so much as a tippery slope.

                                                                            1. re: hyacinthgirl

                                                                              LOL!

                                                              2. How do you feel about a "drinkery". I did not make this up.

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                                                                1. re: cheesemonger

                                                                  Hmm,
                                                                  Thinking on your post cheesemonger.
                                                                  Some words similar to eatery and drinkery (in that the verb that describes what the patron does there becomes part of the word) would be:
                                                                  Bar = drinkery (as you said)
                                                                  cigar bar = smokery
                                                                  store = shoppery
                                                                  office = workery
                                                                  school = learnery
                                                                  library = readery
                                                                  gym = exercisery
                                                                  highway = drivery
                                                                  concert = listenery
                                                                  church = prayerery
                                                                  dr. office = healery
                                                                  hotel = sleepery or sleeparoundery or ?

                                                                  Bakery, distillery, cannery, wouldn't necessarily fit because the baking is being done by those that own the place, not the customers. Same for butchery. Hatchery, I don't know. Distillery, i guess might if customers brought in their stuff to be distilled.

                                                                  1. re: TroyTempest

                                                                    How about a nunnery?

                                                                    1. re: Firegoat

                                                                      I guess so, because there is some nunning going on there.
                                                                      Also,
                                                                      sauna = sweatery

                                                                      1. re: TroyTempest

                                                                        So a "foodery" would be fine, but an "eatery" would be inappropriate?

                                                                        1. re: Firegoat

                                                                          I am not going to get into what is appropriate vs, what's not appropriate. I could care less. I was just pointing out the peculiar nature of the word "eatery". There are very few words like "eatery" in which the activity (verb) that a patron does there gets "ery" added to it to make it a noun, so i made up some to illustrate.
                                                                          Here's some more:
                                                                          restroom = pi$$ery
                                                                          What about my kitchen? If i'm cooking in it, it might be a cookery to me, but if you are eating at my kitchen table, then it is an eatery to you.

                                                                          1. re: TroyTempest

                                                                            I want mine to be a commisary

                                                                            1. re: TroyTempest

                                                                              I think this whole subject is just a lot of tom foolery! :)

                                                                          2. re: TroyTempest

                                                                            I think we should have a nuttery to sequester those annoyed by words. LOL! ;) I hope mine has a waterfront view.

                                                                            1. re: TroyTempest

                                                                              "Get thee to a nunnery"

                                                                      2. Cupcakery. Now I am going to go wash my eyes out with soap for typing it.

                                                                        1. I HATE it when people screw up common sayings. #1 on my list is when they say "I could care less". The saying is "I COULDN'T care less"!!! GET IT RIGHT PEOPLE!!

                                                                          1. Since this topic keeps poppin up to the top of this board, I'll tell you mine.......smidge or smidgen. What the hell is that?

                                                                            No, I won't give you a smidgen of something.......you can have a pinch or a dash or a small bite but not a smidgen....what is a smidgen? Perhap's it has something to do with my fear of little people, but smidge/smidgen just pisses me off. There I said it.

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                                                                            1. re: jrvedivici

                                                                              Julia Child always used to call for a "smidge" of this or that on her television show, and, as far as I'm concerned, she owns it in perpetuity. "Smidgen," on the other hand, is standard English for a tiny amount.

                                                                              1. re: jrvedivici

                                                                                I was once given a set of measuring spoons with smidge, pinch, and several other nonsensical units of measure. So I guess someone thought to quantify smidge.

                                                                                1. re: tcamp

                                                                                  K, then please share with us, which is larger, a smidge or a pinch?

                                                                                  1. re: jrvedivici

                                                                                    A smidge is generally accepted as being larger than a pinch, but not as large as a smadge.

                                                                                2. re: jrvedivici

                                                                                  A smidgeon is "anything between 1/25th and 1/48th of a teaspoon may be found, 1/32nd being perhaps the most commonly used."
                                                                                  http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/smidgen

                                                                                  David Lebovitz, former chef/baker at Chez Panisse, says a smidgeon is any tiny amount you want it to be.

                                                                                3. Nope. If it communicates, I don't have a problem.

                                                                                  English is very dynamic. It changes all the time.

                                                                                  1. I'll take people referring to a restaurant as an 'eatery' over referring to one as a 'concept'.

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                                                                                    1. re: JulesNoctambule

                                                                                      No no! Mine's a "pop up!"

                                                                                      1. re: Firegoat

                                                                                        Oh I like "pop up" because it conveys that it will only be there for a short time.

                                                                                    2. To me, it's the whole "-ery" thing (some already mentioned):
                                                                                      bagelry, cupcakery, drinkery, steakery, etc. I've seen many more over the years but can't think of them offhand.

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                                                                                      1. re: Steve Green

                                                                                        Isn't there a restaurant in SD called Linkery?

                                                                                        1. re: enbell

                                                                                          Yes, and a friend who used to live in La Jolla called it the Missing LInkery.

                                                                                      2. This does not bother me at all. I suppose it might if it was said in a context that I were to find annoying, but I dont think I could give you an example of what that might be.

                                                                                        I know that I DO find incredibly irritating is hearing anyone over the age of five say 'Ewww!'. And 'Sammies'. And 'Veggies'. And 'protein' as a way of describing meat or fish or whatever outside of the context of an article on nutrition.

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                                                                                        1. re: Fydeaux

                                                                                          Agree!!!

                                                                                          1. re: mbfant

                                                                                            And "rezzies" for reservations.

                                                                                            1. re: bcc

                                                                                              The "Rez" means the Reservation (US) or the Reserve (Canada), but that is for First Nations, not restaurants.

                                                                                              1. re: lagatta

                                                                                                True enough, but 'rezzie' is also commonly used to mean 'reservations' [as in 'dinner reservations'] by people either too precious or too lazy to say the whole word.

                                                                                                1. re: Fydeaux

                                                                                                  I've never heard that here (Montréal), among people speaking English, that is.

                                                                                                  1. re: lagatta

                                                                                                    Well, you'll find it on these boards, if you read enough posts.

                                                                                          2. re: Fydeaux

                                                                                            So this would just drive you nuts, then?

                                                                                             
                                                                                            1. re: hyacinthgirl

                                                                                              HA HA, who is that? :)

                                                                                              1. re: kattyeyes

                                                                                                Comedian Aziz Ansari's character on Parks and Rec.

                                                                                              2. re: hyacinthgirl

                                                                                                I've never seen the show. But if this were to heard in real life, yes, you are correct.

                                                                                            2. How about foodie depot?

                                                                                              1. First off, eatery is a legitimate word which has been in use for over a hundred years, but that's neither here nor there. The real question is why not call it what you want providing "GOOD EATS" appears prominently on the signage.

                                                                                                1. There is an obsolete word "Catery" that means "The place where provisions are deposited."

                                                                                                  The caterer stores his provisions in the catery.

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                                                                                                  1. re: GraydonCarter

                                                                                                    Then there is cattery--an establishment for the breeding and boarding of cats! ;)

                                                                                                    1. re: kattyeyes

                                                                                                      Not to be confused with a cathouse

                                                                                                      1. re: Firegoat

                                                                                                        Truly! Better stick to these "ery" variations instead. ;)

                                                                                                      2. re: kattyeyes

                                                                                                        Heavens! Now there is a Kittery! Who knows what happens there!

                                                                                                        http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/901734

                                                                                                        1. re: Firegoat

                                                                                                          Actually the town of Kittery is in Maine...
                                                                                                          http://www.kitteryme.gov/pages/index

                                                                                                    2. While I can feel your pain, Candy, I find absolutely nothing wrong with the expression "eatery." Yeah, some words rub me the wrong way, too. But eatery isn't one of them.

                                                                                                      1. There's this. Somewhat irritating.

                                                                                                         
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                                                                                                        1. re: grampart

                                                                                                          I had to google:
                                                                                                          http://www.pvpeteatery.com/

                                                                                                          Nice concept. Poorly named, I'd say.

                                                                                                          1. re: kattyeyes

                                                                                                            How about a Haute Doggery?
                                                                                                            http://atlanta.eater.com/archives/201...

                                                                                                            1. re: Firegoat

                                                                                                              If they don't show sports on at least two screens they shouldn't be serving hotdogs. Too hoity toity.

                                                                                                              1. re: PotatoHouse

                                                                                                                The Hoity Toitery -- the tea room for the 2013s

                                                                                                                1. re: PotatoHouse

                                                                                                                  I call pish-poshery! They're "working on working on a boozy soft-serve ice cream." Sounds pretty real (and really delicious) to me!

                                                                                                          2. I've spoken on CH before about a soft-bound cookbook from the late Sixties or so called The Impoverished Students Book fo Cookery, Drinkery and Housekeepery. Fits right in...

                                                                                                            1. Looks like France wants to draw a line between "restaurant" and "eateries" now.
                                                                                                              http://www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddri...

                                                                                                              1. got a place that I don't care for so much I call an “eatery”. it's a steam table place with wait 'service'. the ready-made food is on steam tables in the front as you walk in. they choose to call it a restaurant to differentiate from a tavern because this isn’t a “Bar & Grill”, it’s a steam table place with "wait service" that has no bar, but serves alcohol, mostly cheap wine and beer bottles. unlike a local bar/tavern that might have a lunch steam table with trays and high school cafeteria style ‘service’. So I laugh at the taxi drivers running in and getting their quick fix from the ready-made steam table fare at their ‘restaurant’ as I watch the “eatery” do a brisk business.