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Country ham in New York City

John Francis May 16, 2013 03:49 PM

Can anyone tell me where I can get a southern country ham in Manhattan or Brooklyn? It has to be bone-in. There have been a few threads on this topic, but the most recent was in 2008. Ideal would be a Virginia ham, whether Smithfield or some other, but I'll take what I can get.

Also smoked ham hocks suitable for southern-style home cooking, if they can be found this far north.

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    michelley RE: John Francis May 16, 2013 04:40 PM

    I don't know about country ham, but smoked ham hocks are in pretty much every supermarket.

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      John Francis RE: michelley May 16, 2013 11:27 PM

      Not in any supermarket near where I live. Could you name one or two that you know carry smoked ham hocks?

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        michelley RE: John Francis May 21, 2013 07:49 AM

        ctown, pathmark,emporium fresh mart

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          ratgirlagogo RE: michelley May 21, 2013 08:47 AM

          Trade Fair always has them, Key Food most of the time.

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      queensj RE: John Francis May 17, 2013 08:19 AM

      Most large asian grocery stores (in Flushing for example) carry whole or sections of Smithfield hams because it's used in lieu of Chinese cured ham by many people for soup.

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        jen kalb RE: queensj May 17, 2013 08:40 AM

        Id agree with this - I used to see Smithfield hams hanging in butcher shops in Chinatown,but its been a long time since Ive spent much time ambling around there. That would be my first stop, though. Maybe someone else has a more current spotting.

        You could also probably order through a good neighborhood butcher shop. or Fairway - they carry "surryano" ham in their deli shop - a serreano-type ham from SW Edwards in Surry Va which also produces and sells the traditional virginia hams - perhaps they could special order one for you, http://virginiatraditions.com/

      2. guanubian RE: John Francis May 17, 2013 08:22 AM

        I'm not sure, but you could call Esposito's Pork Store in Carroll Gardens, or Faicco's or Bari further south, and ask.

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          son of a butcher RE: John Francis May 17, 2013 10:44 AM

          I've bought fresh ham at Fairway, but they don't have it all the time. When they do, it's very good. Zabars has it too.

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            jen kalb RE: son of a butcher May 17, 2013 11:42 AM

            @son, Not sure what you mean by fresh ham - I would not call smithfield and similar hams, which are cured, smoked and very dry (I once had one sitting on my shelf in the basement for a year before cooking) by tthe name of fresh ham. Please clarify

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              son of a butcher RE: jen kalb May 18, 2013 03:48 AM

              I've bought ham, freshly cooked, bone in at
              Fairway and Zabars. Smithfield hams are from Virginia.

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                jen kalb RE: son of a butcher May 18, 2013 03:49 PM

                to me fresh ham is uncured, unsmoked pork leg. The virginia country ham OP is looking for is, I think of the a cured and smoked variety, like Smithfield right?.

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                  John Francis RE: jen kalb May 18, 2013 11:39 PM

                  Right, Smithfield is a variety of country ham, which is dry- and salt-cured, sometimes smoked, sometimes not.

                  Looking further, there's a Virginia country ham that some say is the best, produced by S. Wallace Edwards & Sons in Surry, Virginia. It would be great if a New York store carried it.

          2. byrd RE: John Francis May 18, 2013 11:47 PM

            Try Western Beef.

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              John Francis RE: byrd May 19, 2013 12:20 AM

              Do they carry southern hams? Their web site doesn't say they carry any hams at all, though plenty of other pork products.

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                byrd RE: John Francis May 19, 2013 12:41 AM

                It's hit or miss. Around the holidays they always have it. Sometimes they even have country pork shoulders.

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                  John Francis RE: byrd May 19, 2013 03:03 AM

                  Thanks for the suggestion, then, but my legs don't allow me to roam around the city on the off chance of finding what I'm looking for.

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              chasamark RE: John Francis May 20, 2013 05:16 AM

              Country hams are difficult to find in NYC. Western Beef does carry Smithfield but be warned they may have been on the shelf for a while. I bought one from the WB on Northern Blvd. about 2 yrs ago, and even with soaking it was too salty to be satisfying as anything more than a flavoring agent, and that is how I finally used it up.
              Better to buy from one of the southern vendors who ship. you will have it in a few days. Got a Benton ham for last Easter, it was wonderful. They also sell hocks, bacon, etc.

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                John Francis RE: John Francis May 21, 2013 08:58 AM

                Folks, I appreciate your wanting to help, but piling up the names of random supermarkets is no good. If it were that easy, I wouldn't have needed to ask for your help. Key Food has been mentioned; the one near where I live in Brooklyn doesn't have country hams. Trade Fair Supermarkets has no stores at all in Manhattan or Brooklyn, only Queens.

                Please, name only stores in Brooklyn or Manhattan where you have personally, recently bought or seen an authentic, made-in-the-south country ham for sale - not Boar's Head Virginia Ham or Karl Ehmer's "Country-Style" Ham, but Smithfield, Edwards, Benton's, brands and makers like that. Either in Brooklyn (the Heights, Cobble Hill, Clinton Hill) or Manhattan; I don't have the legs to go roaming all over the city. I'd appreciate it.

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                  MikeG RE: John Francis May 21, 2013 09:25 AM

                  It read to me like people mentioned the ordinary supermarkets for the ham hocks, not the ham. I'd generally agree that the hocks are pretty common here, though somewhat randomly stocked. Western Beef will all but certainly have plenty at all times, but you could always call ahead to make sure.

                  For a whole ham, I agree with chasamark.

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                    ratgirlagogo RE: MikeG May 21, 2013 10:54 AM

                    "It read to me like people mentioned the ordinary supermarkets for the ham hocks, not the ham."
                    I am the poster who mentioned Trade Fair, and yes it was for the smoked ham hocks, not for dry-cured country ham.
                    People have already given you many suggestions. If you want to be sure, phone ahead.

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                  kittywithawhippet RE: John Francis May 21, 2013 12:04 PM

                  Give these nice people a call and see if they can help you.


                  North Carolina Country Store
                  2001 Atlantic Ave
                  Brooklyn, NY 11233-3129
                  Phone (718) 498-8033

                  1. lambretta76 RE: John Francis May 22, 2013 06:22 PM

                    Stinky on Smith St. and Court St. Grocers have both carried country ham in the past, but both seem to rotate what their offerings are. (For instance, at Stinky, sometimes there will be Col. Newsom's, sometimes Suryano, sometimes just prosciutto and serrano.) May be worth a call.

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                      HungryWino RE: lambretta76 May 28, 2013 05:58 AM

                      Stinky is what I was going to suggest. For the last long while they have had at least 3, usually 4 different hams that they are slicing from, 2 european and 2 American country style. The country style I have purchased there by the slice has been absolutely exceptional and appropriate for eating plain on a roll. Getting hungry just thinking about it.

                      Call them and tell them what you want, and I'm sure they can get it for you. STINKY!

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                        John Francis RE: lambretta76 May 28, 2013 06:36 AM

                        Stinky's web site says they have Benton's country ham, one of the top makes. It's also convenient for me to get to. Bingo! Thanks.

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                          HungryWino RE: John Francis May 28, 2013 06:42 AM

                          Awesome! Love Stinky's.

                      2. jen kalb RE: John Francis May 24, 2013 06:48 AM

                        I was just in the chinese supermarket at 60th St and 8th Ave (dont think its called Hong Kong any more) behind the meat counter they had hanging two "SoutHampton" virginia country hams from the JR Felt Co of Virginia. So thats a local source if you can make it down to chinatown-store is kattykorner from an N train station in the railway cut.

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                          John Francis RE: John Francis May 26, 2013 05:05 AM

                          Thanks to all!

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                            John Francis RE: John Francis Jun 5, 2013 08:43 PM

                            Thanks to lambretta76, I found not one but two kinds of country ham at Stinky's on Smith Street in Brooklyn: Broadbent's at $20/lb and Benton's 2-year aged at $40/lb, both of them smoked. Also Benton's country bacon at $12/lb.

                            For me, the aged ham is so salty that I don't taste much of the ham flavor. The Broadbent's is well balanced. Trying both with biscuits for breakfast, the deciding test.

                            The bacon is very fatty, but that's fine as I need the drippings at least as much as the meat.

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                              lambretta76 RE: John Francis Jun 6, 2013 01:55 PM

                              Glad it worked out! The Benton's bacon (in particular, the fat) is great for fat-washing bourbon as well! (Thanks to the folks at PDT for that idea.)

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