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lattelover May 14, 2013 03:03 PM

Okay, you are stuck on a plane for hours on the runway. Or in the air. The airline personnel have already passed out all the food and drink they have, but everybody is getting hungry. You had the foresight to pack a big bag of trailmix in your carryon. What do you do? Do you save it for yourself, or share it with others. If you share, how do you decide who gets some?

I have never been in this situation, but, in fact, I dont know what I would do. On one hand, I would like to share, but cant give to everybody. If I keep it for myself, I would feel guilty and miserly.

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    ferret RE: lattelover May 14, 2013 03:08 PM

    Oh good god, it's not the Donner party. Share. Coming from a generation where we didn't enjoy multi-course meals during road trips or a twenty-minute car commute I couldn't envision any scenario where you'd be without food for an unbearable interval. And certainly not two hours on the tarmac (any wait of three hours or more will trigger penalties from carriers, so 3+ hour delays rarely occur these days).

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      Perilagu Khan RE: ferret May 14, 2013 03:10 PM

      Yeah. It's not the Donner party. They'll live. So hog it all down yourself.

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        Delucacheesemonger RE: ferret May 15, 2013 11:47 AM

        Thank you, large LOL

      2. Chemicalkinetics RE: lattelover May 14, 2013 03:10 PM

        < Do you save it for yourself, or share it with others. If you share, how do you decide who gets some?>

        First of all, I don't easily get hungry, so I most probably won't even think of getting it out. Second, if I do get it out, then I would offer it to a few people.

        <how do you decide who gets some?>

        I most likely will share with people next to me (since I have had offer snacks to others on the plane -- they always turned me down though)

        Regardless, I don't think I would offer my snack beyond the people next to me (within 2 seats). I don't think I would stand up and start walking around the aisle. The only exception is possibly the little kids.

        1. juliejulez RE: lattelover May 14, 2013 03:11 PM

          How big? If it's like, over a pound then sure I'd share. But if it's just a single serving size, then probably not.

          And I agree with ferret... people might get cranky, but nobody is going to starve to death after a couple hours of not eating.

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            Chemicalkinetics RE: juliejulez May 14, 2013 03:13 PM

            <nobody is going to starve to death after a couple hours of not eating.>

            Are we sure that cannibalism will not happen?

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              512window RE: Chemicalkinetics May 14, 2013 05:00 PM

              In America, they are required to take you off the plane if three hours have passed.

              Most people should be able to go 6-7 hours between meals.

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                Chemicalkinetics RE: 512window May 14, 2013 05:32 PM

                It certainly did not happen to me. I was trapped in a plane (on the runway) for 6+ hours. That was 7 years ago in Newark airport, NJ.

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                  debbiel RE: Chemicalkinetics May 14, 2013 08:17 PM

                  Six hours. Last December. But we never pushed back, which apparently is when the countdown to penalty starts.

                  I would share with the people next to me.

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                    Sal Vanilla RE: debbiel May 24, 2013 12:08 AM

                    That is the time I start complaining of chest pains and inducing my gag reflex.

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                      PotatoHouse RE: Sal Vanilla May 24, 2013 08:27 AM

                      I am a three time heart patient. I would pull that after the first hour.

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                      alliegator RE: debbiel May 24, 2013 12:48 PM

                      I'm with you. Share with my row-mates if they'd like some.

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                      Isolda RE: Chemicalkinetics May 16, 2013 04:28 PM

                      The Newark airport is its own special kind of hell. Wasn't that the incident that brought about the 3 hour rule?

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                        debbiel RE: Isolda May 16, 2013 04:32 PM

                        I thought it was Detroit. But maybe that's because I've flown through Detroit more than Newark and so am more familiar with its hell.

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                          John E. RE: debbiel May 16, 2013 08:50 PM

                          It was Detroit and Rochester, Minnesota. Apparently, the conditions were brutal. Passengers threatened to deploy the evacuation slides.

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                          Chemicalkinetics RE: Isolda May 16, 2013 08:42 PM

                          <Wasn't that the incident that brought about the 3 hour rule?>

                          Not sure what triggered the 3 -hour rule, but I know that 6+ hour delay triggered me to buy my first Nintendo DS. At least now I can play video games while getting stuck in airport/airplane.

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                      tcamp RE: Chemicalkinetics May 14, 2013 06:10 PM

                      Donner Air?

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                        DatatheAndroid RE: tcamp Jul 16, 2013 04:09 PM

                        Old Christians Club Air. That was the name of the rugby team that crashed in the Andes in 1972, BTW.

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                      iL Divo RE: juliejulez May 17, 2013 10:42 AM

                      agree

                      if you took the time to plan for the possibility of getting hungry later so you packed something and others didn't, um, it's like the I love Lucy show where they all ate the cheese sandwiches except Lucy who wasn't hungry at the time but when need to eat came up, she still had hers and they were dying to get a piece.

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                        Bill Hunt RE: juliejulez May 24, 2013 09:42 PM

                        Some do "seem" to get more than cranky. They become ravenous, even after only an hour's flight.

                        We recently flew a half-dozen flights on commuters, on 55 min. flights, and most passengers brought bags and bags of food aboard. We were flying back and forth between IAD and TYS, and both airports have restaurants.

                        We do SFO to PHX and back, maybe 3x per month, and in an hour and 23 min. flight, observe people eating two meals, which they brought on board.

                        I think that an airliner changes many people, and in major ways.

                        Hunt

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                        FriedClamFanatic RE: lattelover May 14, 2013 03:15 PM

                        On many of the flights I am on.my seatmates don't need any extra food!

                        And if you order a drink?.do you give your seatmates half? Never once in over several thousand trips have I been offered that.

                        You seat, your space, your food

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                          Chemicalkinetics RE: FriedClamFanatic May 14, 2013 03:44 PM

                          <You seat, your space, your food>

                          Absolutely not true. You have sat next to an overweight person on a plane, have you?

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                            iL Divo RE: Chemicalkinetics May 17, 2013 11:03 AM

                            I pack lunches and snacks on plane rides. I don't worry about getting hungry...ever.... I snack on nuts, dried fruits, cookies drinks, sandwiches, chips....it may take up space in luggage but once it's gone the room in your bag is back. I don't want to count on anyone else having to plan on my hunger.

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                            Sal Vanilla RE: FriedClamFanatic May 24, 2013 12:10 AM

                            It is not always need. It is being kind and oh... neighborly. Acting with grace.

                            If drinks can be ordered by all then there is no need to share.

                            Did you go to college in San Diego in the 80's and have two girl roommates?

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                              debbiel RE: Sal Vanilla May 24, 2013 08:22 AM

                              "Acting with grace..."

                              Yes.

                          3. foodieX2 RE: lattelover May 14, 2013 04:01 PM

                            Since I hate the food on planes I bring my own meals if its a long flight that crosses a meal time. I am thinking flights that are 4+ hours over the dinner or lunch hour. The last time I flew home from NO I brought a muffaletta and when I had a noon flight out of JFK I brought a Katz corn beef sandwich. And no I wouldn't share them. The one from JFK sat in the runway for just about 2 hours. I am sure the people around me would have killed me if they could since it wasn't a meal flight anyway so the pickings were slim.

                            But your average flight? No one is going to starve. If you are hungry and drag out a big bag of trail mix it would be nice to offer to your seat mates or ask the stew if there are any kids on board who are hungry. Of course that's tricky no matter what. Your seat mate might have an allergy, the kids parent might have a strict "no opened food" from strangers policy…

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                              gourmanda RE: foodieX2 May 16, 2013 01:04 PM

                              I would have "killed" you for bringing a corned beef sandwich on a plane. Stinky.

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                                foodieX2 RE: gourmanda May 16, 2013 02:46 PM

                                corn beef is stinky? <head scratch>

                                Corn beef and *cabbage* is stinky, Ill give you that.

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                                  ttoommyy RE: foodieX2 May 17, 2013 06:20 AM

                                  I think that good corned beef and pastrami both have a distinctive aroma to them relating to the spices used in curing them. We eat with our sense of smell as well as taste, and part of the pleasure of eating corned beef is its aroma. I love the smell of both but I can understand what @gourmanda was talking about within a confined space where people's sense of personal space is compromised to begin with.

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                                    foodieX2 RE: ttoommyy May 17, 2013 08:40 AM

                                    Absolutely they have a distinctive aroma! But stinky *to me* means very strong and unpleasant. I don't think of it as such when it’s in a sandwich form. It not something I associate with being bowled over by, even when someone I am dining with orders it. I have never heard anyone say “OMG who ordered corn beef, or Who put corn beef in the fridge” they way they do when someone micro’s curry or make tuna fish in our work pantry.

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                                      ttoommyy RE: foodieX2 May 17, 2013 09:23 AM

                                      Different smells for different folks...or something like that. :)

                                      I can definitely smell when there is corned beef or pastrami in our fridge at home. I usually double seal it in 2 ziploc bags.

                                      And remember: some people's sense of smell is more sensitive than others, especially in the confines of an airplane cabin.

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                                        gourmanda RE: ttoommyy May 17, 2013 10:08 AM

                                        Exactly. It's the small space and close proximity that are the problem. Even in our small office, if someone orders a corned beef sandwich and you walk in from outside--stink city (yes, strong and unpleasant)! Now, if you're outside eating it or eating it in a dining establishment where there are many other aromas, fine. But in an airplane, squished up next to your neighbor? Please bring something else. And yes, you can definitely smell it in the refrigerator.

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                                          ttoommyy RE: gourmanda May 17, 2013 10:52 AM

                                          "Now, if you're outside eating it or eating it in a dining establishment where there are many other aromas, fine. But in an airplane, squished up next to your neighbor?"

                                          You make a good point. When in a restaurant or even on a plane when food is being served, the aroma is intertwined with other food smells and it is a nonissue. But when someone is eating on a plane and almost no one else is and the food has a strong aroma (even one you like) but it is all you can smell, then it can be an issue.

                                          Believe me, I LOVE corned beef sandwiches, but I probably would not bring one on a plane for the exact reasons we have been discussing.

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                                            foodieX2 RE: gourmanda May 17, 2013 11:23 AM

                                            <<Please bring something else. And yes, you can definitely smell it in the refrigerator.>>

                                            Too late- I can't go back and change time,lol

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                                              gourmanda RE: foodieX2 May 20, 2013 08:08 AM

                                              No you can't change time. You can be courteous the next time.

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                                      westsidegal RE: foodieX2 Jun 6, 2013 09:15 PM

                                      yes
                                      corned beef is very stinky.
                                      so is pastrami, but in a very different way.
                                      would never bring anything as stinky as corned beef or pastrami on a plane.

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                                        foodieX2 RE: westsidegal Jun 7, 2013 09:58 AM

                                        Ah, see? You are so much superior than this lowly gal. You are obviously well bread with impeccable manners.

                                        But its delish, especially when the only other option is packaged peanuts.

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                                      debbiel RE: gourmanda May 16, 2013 03:58 PM

                                      I wouldn't have killed. Just wrestled for the sandwich.

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                                        iL Divo RE: gourmanda May 17, 2013 11:05 AM

                                        love corned beef sandwiches, stinky, not sure
                                        love tuna sandwiches, stinky, yep
                                        love big ole bananas, stinky sitting next to someone eating one in a confined space, yep

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                                          foodieX2 RE: iL Divo May 17, 2013 11:27 AM

                                          So why is any food ok on a plane if so many people are sensitive to smells in confined spaces? To me nothing is nastier than the smell of those flavored tortilla chips they hand out or the sun chips. And the hot meals they serve on international flights are pretty nasty smelling too. Heck on those flights some of the people smell worse than the food!

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                                            grampart RE: foodieX2 May 17, 2013 11:57 AM

                                            " Heck on those flights some if people smell worse than the food!"

                                            Flew from Madrid to Warsaw one time. I'd have given anything for the aroma of a few pastrami wafting through the cabin. It got much worse at baggage claim.

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                                              foodieX2 RE: grampart May 17, 2013 12:03 PM

                                              Yuck!

                                              The worst is when you could still smoke! In a flight from JFK to Rome the male stews smoke liked chimneys and wore mass amounts of cologne. Nasty!

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                                                ttoommyy RE: foodieX2 May 18, 2013 02:30 PM

                                                There was a time people could smoke on the plane. Major nasty!

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                                                  debbiel RE: ttoommyy May 18, 2013 03:32 PM

                                                  I remember those days. I didn't travel much then, but I always seemed to have a seat in the row right next to the smoking section. Ick.

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                                                    grampart RE: ttoommyy May 18, 2013 03:56 PM

                                                    Even as a smoker, I thought lighting up on a plane was kinda nasty, but it sure was a lot easier then to get away with "burnin' one" in the restroom. ;-)

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                                                      alliegator RE: grampart May 24, 2013 12:57 PM

                                                      Haha! I was traveling with a smoker friend from Seoul-Atlanta and we sat on the tarmack 3 hours, 14 hour flight, she's gettin' agitated and then we land and can't pull into the gate because there is a luggage cart parked there. They find they luggage cart dude, but he can't find the key, another 2 hours. I though my friend was going to explode.
                                                      All the trail mix in the world wouldn't have soothed her ;)

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                                                        PotatoHouse RE: alliegator Jul 18, 2013 05:32 PM

                                                        I am SOOO glad I quit 30 months ago!

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                                                          John E. RE: PotatoHouse Jul 18, 2013 07:41 PM

                                                          December 04, 2005 for me.

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                                                      mbfant RE: ttoommyy May 21, 2013 11:33 PM

                                                      I have a friend, nonsmoker, who always used to request the smoking section so he wouldn't get stuck near small children.

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                                                        DatatheAndroid RE: mbfant Jul 16, 2013 04:13 PM

                                                        Bring back the smoking section!!!!

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                                              Bill Hunt RE: gourmanda May 24, 2013 09:47 PM

                                              Ah, you should have been next to that muffaletta! While I love 'em, I would not eat one on a plane. It's almost like a durian fruit between two pieces of Italian bread.

                                              Now, I was on an inter-island flight once, where a passenger brought the family kimchi jar, and opened it (probably been sealed for 15 years!), and the plane almost crashed. I am certain that the pilots grabbed for their oxygen masks.

                                              Gotta' watch out what you bring aboard to eat.

                                              Hunt

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                                            jlhinwa RE: lattelover May 14, 2013 04:14 PM

                                            If I were really hungry, I would get out my snack and (assuming it was more than a single serving) would share with my seat mates. If there had been a long delay and it seemed like riot was about to break out on the plane, I would probably keep the food stowed so as to not add fuel to anyone's fire, because as noted by other posters, people are not going to starve to death in a few hours' delay. If there were parents nearby dealing with hungry kids, I would offer to the parents to help keep the kids quiet (for everyone's sake).

                                            Now if it were alcoholic beverages, totally different answer. Everyone for themselves! This actually occurred on a flight years ago (before strict TSA screening). My friend and I were stuck on a fight that was grounded due to thunder storms. We had a pint of of some kind of liquor. We were much happier campers than the other passengers.

                                            1. tcamp RE: lattelover May 14, 2013 04:16 PM

                                              I'd hoard a certain amount because I am diabetic and need a glucose reserve. No guilt.

                                              But prior to that point, I would have experienced a medical emergency that required getting me the hell off the plane. NFW am I sitting on a stationary plane for hours. If the plane is in the air, then time aloft is limited by fuel reserves, which don't extend past an hour or two for domestic flights. So doubtful anyone is going to starve.

                                              1. bagelman01 RE: lattelover May 14, 2013 05:24 PM

                                                Back in 1985, I was on a flight from JFK to Santo Domingo. While over the Atlantic, we were notified that a tropical storm had hit the airport in Santo Domingo and that we would be diverted to San Juan until power was restored and the airport reopened in SDO. We sat on the tarmac in San Juan for 9 hours. The plane ran out of food and drink. US immigration officials didn't want to let anyone off, because they were afraid that some Dominicans would escape into the general PR population and then get on flights to NY without having to clear immigration (PR being a US territory).
                                                After about 4 hours passengers started breaking out whatever food and drink they had stashed and making sure the children got some food/drink. I had bought two boxes of Godiva Chocolate in Tax Free which I passed out. A number of tax free liquor bottles made the rounds and a good time was had by all.
                                                after the9th hour it was announced that we would be bussed to a San Juan Hotel and put up overnight, then fly to SDO the next morning. Sure enough, 8 Dominican passengers disappeared between the plane and the hotel. They didn't fly on with us the next day.

                                                >>>>>>>>
                                                In 1978, I was on a Swissair flight from Johannesburg to Zurich with an intermediate stop in Kinshasa Zaire. There was civil war going on with shooting at the airport. Swissair took off without time to caterthe flight from Kinshasha to Zurich. Passengers gladly shared their food, and the captain ordered the purser to open the ceiling hatches and remove the emergency food rations from the liferafts. I kept a SwissAir emergency tin of fruit cocktail as a souvenir.

                                                SO, The answer is, been there, done that, I'll always share, but offer to children first.

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                                                  iL Divo RE: bagelman01 May 18, 2013 09:53 AM

                                                  loved the story

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                                                    iL Divo RE: bagelman01 May 18, 2013 09:57 AM

                                                    sure others have thought of this but in case . . . .
                                                    you know the little crystal lights or kool aide flavor straws?
                                                    they come in all flavors.
                                                    those are great to take in your suitcase with empty plastic bottles that you fill up once through security with water fountain cold water and add your straw.
                                                    that way you don't have to pay (a couple of bucks) for a small bottle of water. any empty plastic water/soda/juice bottle works and the little straws have lots of flavor. . . . I'm jus sayin :)

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                                                      Bill Hunt RE: bagelman01 May 24, 2013 09:57 PM

                                                      Wow! Most of my airline food stories go the other way.

                                                      I used to fly out of PHL to MYS, with a stop at BWI. The flight went on to MEX. The food would be loaded at BWI.

                                                      Flying an Eastern Airlines 707, on a very snowy night, the flight took off, after most passengers had deplaned. Clearance came quickly. We had maybe 25 passengers on the whole plane. The normal food order was loaded at BWI, and the flight attendants (stewardesses back then), got us all into FC. We had tons, and tons of food. Though FC got a good beef filet, I asked if they still had the Eastern Airlines Baked Chicken, and they did - tons of it. I had one of those too.

                                                      We more often are on similar flights, where there are many extra meals. Last flight to LHR, the crew passed out the FC and BC meals to Economy Plus, as they had more than needed. Same for a recent flight from PHX to IAD - more meals, than FC wanted.

                                                      Now if only I could convince the cabin crew to serve me the premium FC wine, when I have not upgraded from Economy Plus...

                                                      Hunt

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                                                      Hobbert RE: lattelover May 14, 2013 06:29 PM

                                                      I have snacks on me at all times. I'd share with kids, but adults can wait. Except diabetics...but they *should* bring their own snacks.

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                                                        pdxgastro RE: Hobbert May 17, 2013 01:05 AM

                                                        Everyone should. Self reliance. You snooze, you lose.

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                                                          Hobbert RE: pdxgastro May 17, 2013 02:06 PM

                                                          A maxim to live by!

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                                                            Bill Hunt RE: pdxgastro May 24, 2013 09:58 PM

                                                            I have some snacks from the RCC, and maybe even their cheese and crackers, but usually just nuts, trailmix, or similar.

                                                            Hunt

                                                        2. ipsedixit RE: lattelover May 14, 2013 08:45 PM

                                                          Easy.

                                                          I'd sell it to the highest bidder.

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                                                            Bill Hunt RE: ipsedixit May 24, 2013 09:59 PM

                                                            Now that many airlines ONLY take their own credit cards, do you have maybe a Square for your smartphone? You don't take cash, do you?

                                                            Hunt

                                                          2. Caroline1 RE: lattelover May 14, 2013 09:42 PM

                                                            I'd save it until I reached my destination, then give it to my niece. And next flight, I'd make sure I take cookies, not trail mix! Or maybe a pb&j? Or chocolate éclairs!!!

                                                            Truth is every single person on any given flight has the opportunity to think ahead and take a snack with them. Free yourself of feeling selfish if you don't give half or more of your snack away. On the other hand, if you ever really do find yourself in this situation, go ahead and share, but keep track of how many say, "Thank you," and how many take a big handful and say, "But I really like the kind with almonds and dried cherries better..." They're the ones who will free you of ANY guilt over not sharing! '-)

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                                                              schrutefarms RE: lattelover May 14, 2013 09:58 PM

                                                              Maybe whoever was sitting in my row. But no, I wouldn't walk up and down the aisle offering people my trail mix. If there was a little kid who needed to eat something, or someone who'd need to have something in their stomach to take meds, then they could have some.

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                                                                tastesgoodwhatisit RE: schrutefarms May 15, 2013 01:20 AM

                                                                Yeah, and unless you travel with massive amounts of trail mix, it's not going to go very far.

                                                                I always travel with an emergency SoyJoy or two in the bottom of my bag for cases just like this. It's enough to keep me happy for a few hours delay, but if shared, it's not enough.

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                                                                  LeoLioness RE: schrutefarms May 15, 2013 07:18 AM

                                                                  This. I can't imagine ever carrying enough food to sate an entire plane, but I would certainly offer half my KitKat to my seatmate in this kind of situation, or ask the parent with a little kid nearby if he/she would like my piece of fruit..

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                                                                    Bill Hunt RE: LeoLioness May 24, 2013 10:04 PM

                                                                    Oh you have seen them. They are the ones, who cannot fit their 4 carry-on bags into overhead. It takes half the plane, plus all the crew pushing, to close the bin doors. Then, inflight, they get one of those rollerboards down, open it up, and it looks like a Trader Joe's!

                                                                    Hunt

                                                                2. ttoommyy RE: lattelover May 15, 2013 06:34 AM

                                                                  With the exception of small children or someone who has some kind of medical problem and needs something to eat or they will drop, why is this even an issue? We're talking a few HOURS here, not DAYS. Many Americans (if you are talking about a domestic US flight) could well afford not to eat for a few hours...or days!

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                                                                    INDIANRIVERFL RE: lattelover May 15, 2013 06:34 AM

                                                                    Being the type of man I am,women and children first. Especially the good looking women first. :-0

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                                                                      Sal Vanilla RE: INDIANRIVERFL May 24, 2013 12:17 AM

                                                                      glad you did not include children in that last sentence! : )

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                                                                      beevod RE: lattelover May 15, 2013 07:13 AM

                                                                      Give it the pilot. Just because you're hungry doesn't mean you have to eat.

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                                                                        Sal Vanilla RE: beevod May 24, 2013 12:17 AM

                                                                        " Just because you're hungry doesn't mean you have to eat."

                                                                        Wait.

                                                                        What?

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                                                                          Bill Hunt RE: Sal Vanilla May 24, 2013 10:06 PM

                                                                          Yeah, I always want my cockpit crew feeling good. Waiting for the plane to arrive, I will go and get them coffee, muffins, energy drinks, whatever. I want them feeling good, and flying well.

                                                                          Hunt

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                                                                        cleobeach RE: lattelover May 15, 2013 07:46 AM

                                                                        I have been in the situation the OP describes.

                                                                        I used to pack rather elaborate picnic lunches for our trips by plane.

                                                                        Pre-9/11, we were headed south to the Caribbean. Really bad winter storms hit the east coast. As we approached Charlotte, the FA made an announcement that anyone with a connection was to run, not walk, to their connecting gate because the CLT airport was getting ready to shut down.

                                                                        Run we did and made our connecting flight. There was absolutely nothing to eat on board. There was a group of passengers behind us that were begging the FA for anything as they had not even since the night before and we weren't scheduled to land for several hours. (it was around noon at this point)

                                                                        I did share with them and they were very grateful. Granted, no one was going to starve but we had more than enough and I figured with the stress of the travel day and the distance we all had to go, why not be kind to my fellow passengers.

                                                                        Mr. CB, however, got v. annoyed with me for giving away part of his lunch.

                                                                        1. BiscuitBoy RE: lattelover May 15, 2013 07:46 AM

                                                                          A coupla hours without food down your gullet is no tragedy..I'm amused at the folks who feel the need and desire to eat on a plane, or eat airline food. Share with your seatmate if you feel guilty, they'll most likely decline anyway...I don't regularly take food from strangers

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                                                                            ttoommyy RE: BiscuitBoy May 15, 2013 07:53 AM

                                                                            "I don't regularly take food from strangers"

                                                                            Same here. Part of it is who knows where it's been and part is I find sharing food an "intimate" thing and doing this with a stranger just is not me.

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                                                                              LeoLioness RE: BiscuitBoy May 15, 2013 08:16 AM

                                                                              Do you not take many long flights? When flying cross or out-of-country I eat the airline food bot because I'm hungry and because it kills some time. I can't sleep on planes (even on a recent 14 hour flight!) so I've got to take my 30 minute diversions when I can.

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                                                                                schrutefarms RE: LeoLioness May 15, 2013 08:22 AM

                                                                                I agree. I have a very hard time flying over long stretches of ocean. I do it anyway, because I like to go to other places, but the food (and drink) create a nice diversion for me. At least they did until I discovered Advil PM. I can never usually sleep on planes, but the last time I went to Europe, I popped two PMs after the meal (while still over American soil) and woke up above Greenland. Missed the whole ocean! Not that I'm condoning drug use :)

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                                                                                  BiscuitBoy RE: schrutefarms May 15, 2013 08:26 AM

                                                                                  Nyquil! No I haven't flown > 4 hours for a long time..not really a "eat 'cause I'm bored" guy anyway

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                                                                                    LeoLioness RE: BiscuitBoy May 15, 2013 08:45 AM

                                                                                    Sleeping aids just make me groggy, unfortunately. My last vacation was about 28 hours of hours of travel time from the time I left my apartment to the time I got to my lodgings(East Coast-Southeast Asia) and I didn't sleep until I got to my hotel...

                                                                                    But I did consume all sorts of mediocre Economy class airline food/wine!

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                                                                                      ttoommyy RE: LeoLioness May 15, 2013 08:49 AM

                                                                                      "But I did consume all sorts of mediocre Economy class airline food/wine!"

                                                                                      That's part of the fun of air travel!!!

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                                                                                        LeoLioness RE: ttoommyy May 15, 2013 08:56 AM

                                                                                        You know, I must confess I do get a kick out of airline food, particularly when I'm in a part of the world where the food is less predictable to me. It's not good, but it can be amusing (sort of like 75% of the movies they show).

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                                                                                          ttoommyy RE: LeoLioness May 15, 2013 08:58 AM

                                                                                          I go with the flow. On most domestic flights you have to purchase the food these days so we always brings sandwiches. We do order cocktails and/or wine though. :)

                                                                                          On international flights though, I eat whatever they are serving. Call me crazy, but I find it fun.

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                                                                                            debbiel RE: ttoommyy May 15, 2013 07:40 PM

                                                                                            I'm not well traveled, so small sample, but the food on Pakistan International Air when I flew it Chicago to Barcelona was not too bad!

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                                                                                    debbiel RE: schrutefarms May 15, 2013 07:38 PM

                                                                                    Packing Advil PM next trip (another no sleep on plane person)

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                                                                                      Bill Hunt RE: schrutefarms May 24, 2013 10:08 PM

                                                                                      For us, a few glasses of Port will normally do the same thing. My wife normally sleeps through the breakfast, before touchdown at LHR.

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                                                                                    debbiel RE: BiscuitBoy May 15, 2013 07:37 PM

                                                                                    I wouldn't share out of guilt. I would share out of...sharing? Why do you connect that with guilt? That said, as I mentioned above, row mates. Not the whole plane.

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                                                                                      BiscuitBoy RE: debbiel May 17, 2013 06:28 AM

                                                                                      The whole situation, YOU have food, but not the guy next to you, and the overwhelming opinion here that folks just HAVE to eat, that wouldn't make you feel guilty about eating/? Sorry just being honest

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                                                                                        debbiel RE: BiscuitBoy May 17, 2013 01:43 PM

                                                                                        I'm pretty sure I wouldn't feel guilty. I think of guilt being attached to immoral conduct of some sort. I don't consider packing trail mix immoral conduct.

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                                                                                          grampart RE: debbiel May 17, 2013 01:48 PM

                                                                                          "........I don't consider packing trail mix immoral conduct."

                                                                                          Agreed. I mean it's not like you had a can of Spam in there.

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                                                                                          Nudibranch RE: BiscuitBoy May 18, 2013 04:47 PM

                                                                                          No. I might share of of, as debbiel said, "sharing", depending on my rapport with seatmates.
                                                                                          But the overwhelming opinion actually makes me laugh, giving that I easily went 24 hrs with no food while doing on-call shifts. Medical reasons aside (I would share food for medical reasons), an adult should be able to withstand the sheer horror of a ~long-haul flight OMG~ without food.

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                                                                                            iL Divo RE: Nudibranch May 23, 2013 06:47 PM

                                                                                            "depending on my rapport with seatmates"

                                                                                            10 years ago on a flight I was seated next to a lovely man. my good fortune. we talked from the beginning, fun conversations. when they brought out our meals we ate and talked. there was some sort of a candy treat in the meal delivered. I guess I ate mine after finishing the meal as we were talking. trash picked up, restroom break and upon returning to a clean tray table, out of nowhere appeared his treat on my table. I looked at him to see if he was the culprit and he winked. nice seat mate.

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                                                                                              debbiel RE: iL Divo May 23, 2013 06:54 PM

                                                                                              Lovely! I have had some lovely seat mates in recent years. Including one on the dreadful JFK to Madrid flight I referenced earlier, who invited me to Salamanca to have a meal with his family. I did, and it was a lovely experience!

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                                                                                                iL Divo RE: debbiel May 23, 2013 07:22 PM

                                                                                                you just never know where you're going to meet a potential friend for life or a short period of time. either way, nice to put yourself out there or be a willing participant in occasional chatter. it's paid off for many of us many times over.

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                                                                                        KarenDW RE: BiscuitBoy May 15, 2013 09:26 PM

                                                                                        My most recent flight was 14 hrs in the air, 2 hrs pre-flight at the airport, plus 2 hrs getting to the terminal. I completely appreciated the snack, purchased at the terminal, plus the 3 meals offered inflight. Also, I had some meal bars in my hand bag, "just in case". While I rarely pack shareable food, if I have extra, on the homebound leg, and the flight is delayed... of course I offer to my rowmates.

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                                                                                          Isolda RE: BiscuitBoy May 16, 2013 04:39 PM

                                                                                          It's not a tragedy, but there was a day when I had the bad luck to get on a plane with no food (boston to dallas, major screwup on the part of the airline), then had to run for a connecting flight (dallas to SFO) and didn't have time to buy anything at the airport, only to board another plane with only chips and limited snacks. Had a killer headache, but I survived.

                                                                                          And even then, I'm not sure I would have accepted food from a stranger unless it was in a sealed wrapper.

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                                                                                            Bill Hunt RE: Isolda May 24, 2013 10:16 PM

                                                                                            "Heh, heh! Little girl, do you want some of my GRANOLA!?!?!"

                                                                                            Guess that it's just me, but I am almost flying with my lovely, young wife, so we have a few "emergency" cookies from the RCC in my briefcase. Reminds me, I need to replace those, as we have not used them in almost two years.

                                                                                            Actually, we more often decline dishes, even on long-haul flights, as there is just too much food, and we often have to host a dinner, not too long after we arrive.

                                                                                            I cannot recall the last flight that we took, where food was an issue, and we are both 1K on UAL, plus Chairman on US Air, with wife coming up on 1M miles on UAL. Guess that it happens, but I cannot recall the last time that it did.

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                                                                                            DatatheAndroid RE: BiscuitBoy Jul 16, 2013 04:17 PM

                                                                                            I won't take food from strangers, but they have the best candy.

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                                                                                            treb RE: lattelover May 15, 2013 07:51 AM

                                                                                            I would hesitate to share fearing someone might have alergic reactions to some ingredient.

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                                                                                              debbiel RE: treb May 15, 2013 07:41 PM

                                                                                              I would hope that if I offered to shade, the person with the allergy would inquire or decline.

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                                                                                                Bill Hunt RE: debbiel May 24, 2013 10:17 PM

                                                                                                Maybe ask for a signed waiver of liability?

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                                                                                            2. grampart RE: lattelover May 16, 2013 01:31 PM

                                                                                              Sounds like a great chance to make a couple bucks. Highest bidder? Anyone?

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                                                                                                pedalfaster RE: grampart May 17, 2013 11:29 AM

                                                                                                Genius!
                                                                                                and I thought the all the "Good Ideas for New Business" had already been taken....;)

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                                                                                                Isolda RE: lattelover May 16, 2013 04:31 PM

                                                                                                My first thought was, "Oh, no, trail mix has nuts!" (My son is allergic.) But my second was yeah, I'd offer it to my seatmates after asking first if they had nut allergies.

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                                                                                                  debbiel RE: Isolda May 16, 2013 04:36 PM

                                                                                                  Maybe this is another thread, but I always think of the responsibility lying with the person who has the allergy.
                                                                                                  If you had a known allergy, wouldn't you always refuse random food offers or ask about ingredients?

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                                                                                                    LMAshton RE: debbiel Jun 6, 2013 04:00 AM

                                                                                                    I do have allergies and I would ask. I consider that my responsibility. No one could possibly guess what allergies I may or may not have.

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                                                                                                    Bill Hunt RE: Isolda May 24, 2013 10:20 PM

                                                                                                    Hey, if you do crash in the Andes, all those who took advantage of your trailmix, but had nut allergies, would make things easier.

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                                                                                                      Vidute RE: Bill Hunt May 29, 2013 09:14 PM

                                                                                                      but, wouldn't the meat be, technically, "diseased"?

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                                                                                                        INDIANRIVERFL RE: Vidute May 30, 2013 11:51 AM

                                                                                                        I believe the term would be more to the effect of toxic to the individual.

                                                                                                        Don't you eat poultry with a nut stuffing sometimes? I prefer chesnuts.

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                                                                                                          Vidute RE: INDIANRIVERFL May 30, 2013 08:31 PM

                                                                                                          but it wasn't the nuts that lead to the chicken's demise.

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                                                                                                    Isolda RE: lattelover May 16, 2013 04:45 PM

                                                                                                    I guess the moral of this thread is that wise people should expect air travel to suck and have lousy or non-existent food. Therefore, when possible, they should plan ahead by bringing their own food, and having very low expectations. That way, they're unlikely to be disappointed.

                                                                                                    1. John E. RE: lattelover May 16, 2013 08:09 PM

                                                                                                      I remember a few years ago when planes sat on the runway somewhere during a winter storm. The planes were there for over 8 hours with the toilets overflowing, no food, no beverages. I think the U.S. Congress even passed a law requiring the airlines to figure out hour to deplane the passengers after 4 hours (something like that).

                                                                                                      If I were stuck for hours in a situation like that I would certainly share. If it lasted any longer, I'd go all Donner on someone and tear out their heart and have heart tartare.

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                                                                                                        Bill Hunt RE: John E. May 24, 2013 10:22 PM

                                                                                                        We have been very fortunate, in that when we have had tarmac holds, we have been able to deplane, or have had non-stop movies, with free-flowing bubbles, even in Economy Plus. While we have experienced holds, for various reasons, none has been out on the tarmac.

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                                                                                                        NaeShelle RE: lattelover May 16, 2013 08:49 PM

                                                                                                        Not even gonna lie: what do I look like sharing?
                                                                                                        If they wanted some, they would have brought something to eat.
                                                                                                        If there's a kid or something (someone that can't do it for themselves and must rely on other people to get what they need), then, yeah, I would share.
                                                                                                        I get greedy when I'm hungry. Eh.

                                                                                                        1. PotatoHouse RE: lattelover May 17, 2013 01:19 PM

                                                                                                          Rule #1 always has been and always will be,"Fat boy is gonna eat".

                                                                                                          1. Atomic76 RE: lattelover May 18, 2013 01:40 AM

                                                                                                            Just share the misery of the other passengers, and leave the food alone.

                                                                                                            1. GraceW RE: lattelover May 18, 2013 10:12 AM

                                                                                                              I think it would depend how much food I had that day. I always, always have breakfast, but if for some reason I didn't have it--then I would take some for myself. Save the rest.

                                                                                                              However, most likely I would just leave it where it was and not eat some. And not mention it. I would feel guilty eating in front of starving people. And by starving, I mean hungry.

                                                                                                              1. viperlush RE: lattelover May 22, 2013 08:01 AM

                                                                                                                I tend to travel with way more food that I can eat on the trip, but it helps with my food and travel anxiety. So my first concern would be to make sure my needs are taken care of. Then I would offer to share with seatmate and possibly those around me that I hear talking about their hungry. But unless a flight attendant asks for contributions to a communal stash, I would keep all my food to myself.

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                                                                                                                  FriedClamFanatic RE: viperlush May 23, 2013 12:47 PM

                                                                                                                  The day a flight attendant asks for contributions to a communal stash is the day I want a free flight........on this one and the next. Unless we have crashed or are under seige

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                                                                                                                    Bill Hunt RE: viperlush May 24, 2013 10:23 PM

                                                                                                                    You must fly between SFO and PHX. I see so many with two full meals for a 1hr 23 min. flight. I swear that some have three full meals packed.

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                                                                                                                    Sal Vanilla RE: lattelover May 24, 2013 12:05 AM

                                                                                                                    If I pulled it out of my bag to eat, I would share it with my seat mates. Immediate ones like among the three of us. If someone looked longingly or had hungry kids - they get some.

                                                                                                                    It is trail mix. Share with those on the trail!

                                                                                                                    Sweet to contemplate it tho.

                                                                                                                    1. Bill Hunt RE: lattelover May 24, 2013 09:31 PM

                                                                                                                      I would share, and the first recipients would be all US Military in uniform. Actually, we have bought all the "snack packs" for US Military, on some of our flights. Even on the ground, we have secretly picked up the tab for tables of Military in the airport restaurants. It is the least that we can do, and especially as how no one would even welcome me back, in 1967. I hope that times have changed?

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                                                                                                                        justalex RE: Bill Hunt May 29, 2013 09:00 PM

                                                                                                                        Thanks for your service to our country, Bill. My family would have welcomed you back home in '67. You just encountered the wrong people.

                                                                                                                        We haven't flown in eons, but send care packages to our troops serving overseas.

                                                                                                                        Kudos to you for secretly picking up the tab for our brave Military. Brings a tear to my eye and thanks in my heart.

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                                                                                                                          John E. RE: Bill Hunt Jun 1, 2013 10:31 AM

                                                                                                                          Bill, it was not bad everywhere for returning men and women in uniform. My brother and SIL have been volunteering at the Armed Forces Service Center at the Minneapolis-St. Paul airport ever since their middle son was sent to Iraq in 2007. My SIL even takes the 4a - 8a shift once a week and then goes to her nusing job for the rest of the day.

                                                                                                                          http://www.mnafsc.org/

                                                                                                                        2. girloftheworld RE: lattelover May 28, 2013 03:52 PM

                                                                                                                          you do realize soon as you open it someone will bitch that their precious snowflake child has a peanut allegry and this was a peanut free flight and they are going to sue your ass for risking their childs life!

                                                                                                                          1. LMAshton RE: lattelover Jun 6, 2013 03:48 AM

                                                                                                                            I get severely ill with painful stomach cramps if I don't eat, so no, I don't share. Except with the husband, who'll likely refuse since he knows this about me.

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                                                                                                                              DatatheAndroid RE: lattelover Jul 16, 2013 04:05 PM

                                                                                                                              I would give all the other passengers the utensils that were served with the food, and tell them that whoever survived a battle to the death would get to share my trail mix. :) Seriously though, I would not share. I have an undiagnosed medical condition that causes me to become very ill if I do not eat every couple of hours. Luckily, I am an evil and selfish person, so I would not feel guilty.

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                                                                                                                                girloftheworld RE: DatatheAndroid Jul 19, 2013 07:48 AM

                                                                                                                                We were at DIsney World and there was this teenage girl in the bathroom with her mom and she was very pale and shakey and the mom had her sitting on the floor with wet paper towels on her neck. Her mom was saying Are you sure your not pregnat???? she was saying "god dont be stupid mom" Now my mom is onnnnne of thoooose people. And she said whenwas the last time you ate? The girl said "I had a jell donut at breakfast. My mom gets what we call the peckish sickness so she always has food in her purse. She pulls out peanut butter crackers .Ask the girl mom if she can eat them.. The girl starts feeling better. Gives the girl some crackers to carry with her...was afraid she was going to get the whole lipid isnsullin speech.. But I remember being so proud of my mom because there were som many people in that bathroom that day that just walked past that mom and daughter.

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