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May 12, 2013 06:59 PM

Crystal Jade [San Francisco]

I just heard that Crystal Jade, that restaurant chain in Asia, is opening in San Francisco at end of the year.

Anyone know the location?

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  1. Whoa, where did you hear about this?

    I'd love for this to be true, but the menu's going to be pretty hard to replicate in full unless they cut some things off or "adapt" to US tastes.

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    1. re: Jon914

      Heard on CNBC Asia when they interviewed the CEO of Crystal Jade. He confirmed it.

    2. Its location is Embarcadero Center. I believe its number 4 where the old Harbor Village used to be.

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      1. re: superbigeater

        We really miss Harbor Village. Very happy that Crystal Jade will take over that spot.

        1. re: PeterL

          That's welcome and exciting news, but I'd be more thrilled to see a Crystal Jade La Mian outlet in SF.

          1. re: soupçon

            Why is that? I think all their concepts are pretty good.

            1. re: superbigeater

              Because we need more decent la mian and xiao long bao options than more high-end Cantonese food.

        2. re: superbigeater

          I walked by the store yesterday. It is not in the old Harbor Village site. That site was sliced in two and the Osha bar is located in the downstairs portion of Harbor Village. They took over the old Liz Claiborne store.

        3. Talk to me about this please. I'm not familiar about this place.

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          1. re: c oliver

            It's a popular restaurant group in Asia that runs a number of concepts. Unlike what we think of as chain restaurants state-side, the quality of such chains can actually be rather good.

            In rough terms, they have restaurants covering the main regional cuisines (Cantonese, Shanghainese, Chiu Chow) at various price points (Express/Takeout, Casual, Sit Down, Fine Dining).

            I'm most familiar with their casual Shanghainese concept (Crystal Jade La Mian Xiao Long Bao), which does really good XLB and pulled noodles of various kinds in a chic but casual atmosphere at relative bargain prices. In Hong Kong, they have these outlets pretty much in every mall and even the airport.


            Although I'd love to see that concept taken here, its more likely that they'll bring over their sit-down Cantonese restaurant concept because it's a lot safer and fits the former Harbor Village spot well.


              1. re: Jon914

                I've been to CJ-LM-XLB in HK and the CJ Kitchen at Taks in Singapore many, many times. They really are top-notch for a chain.

                I guess the city makes sense for them, but I can't help but wish that they'd open in 'Tino or Milpitas. We can only hope for an expansion -- albeit a quality one, unlike a certain other chain *coughcough*.

                1. re: stravaigint

                  One blocking factor is that Cupertino (I live here) and Milpitas have a dominant Taiwanese and recent mainland immigrant community. The tastes and preferences of this audience differ quite a bit, and it may not be a fit for them.

                  That's why you tend to find more (and better) Cantonese restaurants up north, because that's where the bulk of the Cantonese speaking population lies in this area (particularly San Mateo, Daly City, western SF, etc.).

                  That "other chain" is DTF, eh? I'm surprised that they pulled out because it would have been a fit for Cupertino.

                  1. re: Jon914

                    I'm an ex-Cupertino resident (and yet had never been to Chef Ma, WTF?), so I'm well aware of how fiercely Taiwanese it is. Jade's Canto might not work (although Cooking Papa a few zips over is constantly mobbed), but I reckon Jade LM-XLB would be a hit.

                    Yes, DTF...sigh...

                      1. re: superbigeater

                        They are very feng shui oriented. Their next two locations are Costa Mesa and Glendale.

                        1. re: Chandavkl

                          I don't know feng shui. How does that rule out the Bay Area?

                          1. re: drewskiSF

                            Apparently their feng shui consultant doesn't like the Bay Area. Or New York, which is also dying for a branch.

                            1. re: Chandavkl

                              They're obviously not using the right feng shui expert then! Feng shui is less about ruling out entire swaths of geography but in finding the right and proper placement of buildings and objects.

                              1. re: scoopG

                                Its probably more than just feng shui if they also have an in house astrologer.

                                1. re: Chandavkl

                                  Where is it written or established that they employ either an astrologer and a feng shui master? DTF is already in ten countries.

                                  What astrology/feng shui practices do they insist on their franchisees in Thailand, Singapore etc. utilize?

                                  1. re: scoopG

                                    I only know what I read on Chowhound. (Actually there have been other hints.)


                                    1. re: Chandavkl

                                      There is nothing definitive in that thread that warrants saying DTF employs/engages a feng shui master and/or astrologer.

                            2. re: drewskiSF

                              the words simply mean 'wind'(feng, as in tai feng great wind, anglicized 'typhoon'), 'water' (shui). also called geomancy. determining the patterns of how those elements fit and flow over the landscape.

                              1. re: moto

                                No, fengshui means "geomancy" and nothing more.

              2. This restaurant is usually across Asia and is very good (at least I think so). CJ and Din Tai Fung are two restaurants in Asia that usually have a strong following. The menu is varied but usually has bbq meats, Xiao long biao and local specialties where the restaurant is located.

                I have no idea how it would fare here given local tastes. My friend ids helping with the recruiting so I will ask if he can get a peek at the menu.

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