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Kitchen Nightmares -- Amy's Baking Company Scottsdale -- Spoilers

Okay, I have to ask if anyone watched Kitchen Nightmares Friday (5/10/2013) which featured Amy's Baking Company in Scottsdale, Ariz. I have to admit, this is possibly the absolute best Kitchen Nightmares episode I've ever seen. Ramsay finally got fed up with these people and walked out.
The episode was pre-leaked online and since the episode social media with yelp and FB has been totally lit up.
I watched it and I have to say if even half of what was on the show was true.... these people shouldn't be running across the street, much less a restaurant.
http://www.yelp.com/biz/amys-baking-c...
http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/bell...
and it sounds like she had a history from years back from going on yelp and attacking a complaining customer. Possibly the craziest and best Kitchen Nightmares ever.

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  1. I saw it!!!! Totally the best one ever. I'm so glad that he walked out on them. My husband insists that they are just trying to get themselves a reality show of their own (and in this day and age it might work). I hope to heck no one takes the bait. Those people are just horrendous. I kind of hate to admit that I watch this show, but this was the pay off, big time.

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    1. re: LulusMom

      I loved that at the end they just cut the music and let Ramsay talk, then showed the camera crew pulling up stakes and moving out. I guess the guy who was on the show who got assaulted and bullied out of the place has also posted on Yelp about his experience. Craziest thing ever!

      1. re: Firegoat

        I loved when Ramsey asked the diners if they assumed the tips were going to the waitress and then told them they weren't.

        1. re: LulusMom

          I didn't realize it til I watched it again that one of the camera crew was out there inbetween the guest and the guy owner trying to stop a full out brawl after the police were called. And Gordon was soooooo nice to these crazy people. It's like he knew they were mentally unstable and didn't want to get a big full on dose of crazy early on.

    2. I actually like Gordon, it's good entertainment for foodies. The KN episode on Amy's Kitchen was unreal, the owners are certifiable. I don't like the current Hell's Kitchen either, where do they get these people?
      The best thing GR did recently was Ultimate Cookery. Great stuff, no swearing, practical advice, loved it!

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      1. re: realtorav8tor

        I liked him on this episode. He was much quieter and was kind and praised her baking and the decor and cleanliness of the kitchen... but man as soon as he critiqued the food it was a whole different thing.
        (and yes I think HK is very shouty and crazy.... but I still watch it every single time!)

      2. I watched it and those people did not need Gordon Ramsey. They needed a psychiatrist. I thought it was very interesting that he realized he couldn't help someone who won't be helped and walked out. First time for that I think. I love all of his shows. KN shows how there are so many people in the restaurant business who should not be there.

        1. ITA that this was the most entertaining KN EVER.

          I'm sure there's a good deal of fakery on "reality" shows, but unless these two are Meryl Streep and Laurence Olivier, there is no way they could fake that kind of crazy.

          1. That was FABULOUS!

            I read this thread and then watched it on demand.

            Crazy raccoon eyed lady is clearly in need of counseling.

            1. There is now a spoof Facebook page called Crazy Amy's Baking Company.... although it really isn't needed because their real facebook page is crazy and deluded enough on its own.

              1. Wow, just wow.

                Here is a news bit about her (and the Yelp fight) from 2010. Sorry, the video quality isn't great

                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nexQhK...

                Re: taking the tips. Someone on another forum speculated that the reason Samy didn't let any other staff use the POS was so that every cheque in the computer system showed Samy as the server.

                I have trouble believing Amy made all those desserts. Not if she was in the kitchen at all times when they were open for business. And was a slow as she seemed.

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                1. re: Sooeygun

                  I didn't see any big mixers or the like in the kitchen shots I'd expect to see in a bakery. I also couldn't see them having a bakery display THAT full if they have so little traffic (at $8 a slice of cake.) I wonder if she did make them but they made up a ton of it just for the show knowing they were coming. Apparently they did a big massive cleaning just before the show came according to the KN website.
                  Considering her past as a felon I'd think twice about using my credit card there. Someone on Yelp posted that he went by there after the show and there was a sign posted on the door that Scottsdale Police would escort you away if you were just there to disrupt business. They took a camera phone photo of it and had one of the owners running out yelling at them..... craziness.

                  1. re: Firegoat

                    No, there didnt look to be any baking equipment in the kitchen.

                    Plus when would she have time to bake or make those desserts?

                    And you'd think that if she were a baker she would be able to cook pizzas propoerly.

                    1. re: C. Hamster

                      I couldn't get over her just cooking one ticket at a time. No wonder the pizzas took over an hour to get out....

                    2. re: Firegoat

                      She is a convicted felon, served time in prison for fraud/embezzlement. Not surprised. Only surprised that he has not done time, considering his criminal thinking/entitlement/behaviors such as stealing tips and threatening customers.

                    3. re: Sooeygun

                      It didn't make sense that he was entering all the orders, now we know why. If there was an investigation he could pull records and say "see, I was their server".

                    4. Federal Law:

                      Retention of Tips: A tip is the sole property of the tipped employee regardless of whether the employer takes a tip credit. The FLSA prohibits any arrangement between the employer and the tipped employee whereby any part of the tip received becomes the property of the employer. For example, even where a tipped employee receives at least $7.25 per hour in wages directly from the employer, the employee may not be required to turn over his or her tips to the employer.

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                      1. re: C. Hamster

                        I love how on their facebook page they ask any current or past employee to come forward and say that they took their tips. Hello? You admitted it on the show. I'm pretty sure that wasn't dubbed. Just delusional.

                      2. Fresh out of their oven:

                        "Amy's Baking Company Bakery Boutique & Bistro
                        4 minutes ago
                        YEA SO WHAT IF WE BUY OUR BAKED GOODS, YOU CAN ALL SUCK IT. YOU ARE JUST JEALOUS."

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                        1. re: catroast

                          Oh wow. I was just looking at her other crazy meltdown missed that one!!!!

                          Tyler Heard You can delete your posts but I've got the screen shots, you have lost it
                          Like · Reply · 11 · 10 minutes ago via mobile

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                          Amy's Baking Company Bakery Boutique & Bistro YOU ARE A LIAR, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THESE "POSTS"
                          Like · 1 · 6 minutes ago

                          Jeremy Mayhew its called "alt-print screen" and funny how your posts have the same exact tell tell "caps lock" as the previous ones you can't fake crazy like this
                          Like · 1 · 6 minutes ago

                          Daniel J. Salinas I saw the GOD posts, the narcissism is quite amazing.
                          Like · 5 minutes ago

                          Denny Bridge i saw the post with my own eyes
                          Like · 5 minutes ago

                          Denny Bridge before you deleted it
                          Like · 5 minutes ago

                          Amy's Baking Company Bakery Boutique & Bistro NONE OF YOU HAVE PROOF
                          Like · 4 minutes ago

                          Dawn Lynn here is one - THIS RESTAURANT WAS PART OF GODS PLAN FOR US! YOU HATERS ARE JUST SINNERS WHO DO NOT HAVE HIS LIGHT IN YOUR LIFE! YOU SIT THERE AND SAY YOU HATE US, YOU ARE HATING THE LORD GOD!
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                          1. re: catroast

                            Nothing like lying on national TV and on their menu and.......

                            1. re: catroast

                              one couldn't make this stuff up. Fantastically entertaining but really glad I don't have to deal with their crazy because they have it on big time (or should that be BIG TIME?).

                              1. re: LulusMom

                                by the way, all of the photos of their food are stolen from other websites. they even posted a picture off of martha stewart

                                1. re: catroast

                                  Keep it classy Amy. She should realize Martha's done some hard time too.....

                                  1. re: Firegoat

                                    here's a comment from one of the cake photos:

                                    Cheryl Cullop Green THIS IS MY CAKE!!! I MADE THIS FOR MY FRIEND LEN FEDOROWICZ'S WIFE'S BABY SHOWER IN MERRITT ISLAND FLORIDA SEVERAL YEARS AGO! YOU ARE A THIEF AND IF YOU DO NOT TAKE THIS PICTURE DOWN OR GIVE Heavenly Confections CREDIT I WILL MAKE YOUR LIFE MISERABLE!
                                    6 hours ago · Like · 26

                                    Cheryl Cullop Green Back in May of 2009 my cake was featured on Cake Wrecks (for a good reason not a bad one, lol) and they gave me credit!!!
                                    check it out for yourself - which time & date stamps my cake, well, not to mention I have original images. I am just disturbed by Amy's Bistro.

                                    From the owner of cake wrecks:
                                    "And finally, how about a little love for Beatrix Potter's Peter Rabbit?
                                    He looks like felt, doesn't he? That's some gorgeous figure modeling!
                                    (By Cheryl of Heavenly Confections.)
                                    Hope you enjoyed these sweet selections, guys! Now please, go find a kid and read something together, k?"

                                    http://www.cakewrecks.com/home/2009/5...

                                    1. re: catroast

                                      Wow. It just keeps getting crazier and crazier. The only nice thing Ramsay had to say other than cleanliness and decor was about the desserts... which aren't hers.

                            2. Their real Facebook page is getting really unhinged ...

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                              1. re: C. Hamster

                                I guess she forgot that she claimed that she made all the desserts..... with her latest post

                                my's Baking Company Bakery Boutique & Bistro
                                3 minutes ago

                                WE DO NOT NEED THIS. YOU STUPID PEOPLE. AMERICA IS ABOUT RESSLING, IT IS NOT A BIG DEAL. THE CAKES WE OFFER ARE EXPENSIVE BECAUSE WE HAVE TO REPACKAGE AND SHIP. DO NOT BLAME US BECAUSE YOU CAN NOT AFFORD QUALITY. THE YELPERS, AND NOW THE REDDITS, NEED TO BACK OFF. YOURE NOT RIGHT JUST BECAUSE OF SOME TV SHOW.

                                1. re: Firegoat

                                  I puzzled over this because I was thinking that "ressling" is a phonetic misspelling of "wrestling" -- "America is about wrestling"???

                                  But eventually my slow brain realized that it's "reselling". Depressing if the pastries are made elsewhere and repackaged to be resold -- because they did look very impressive.

                                  1. re: drongo

                                    yeah, apparently they are.... which makes sense since the kitchen didn't look equipped for bakery work and it took over an hour for a simple pizza.

                                    1. re: drongo

                                      I'm glad you figured out what ressling was because I went the wrong way too.

                                      1. re: drongo

                                        I'm all about Riesling, myself, although I have no problems with a gewurz or a chablis on occasion.

                                        I'm sorry I missed this episode!

                                        1. re: tardigrade

                                          oh, but you must find it and watch it, tardigrade. A classic of the genre

                                          I too though Riesling first. heh

                                          1. re: coney with everything

                                            I am pretty sure Riesling motivated their Facebook posts of late yesterday.....

                                            https://m.facebook.com/amysbakingco?v...

                                            1. re: C. Hamster

                                              They are supposedly open today, so hopefully they'll leave their FB page alone. Talk about pouring gas on a fire.

                                    2. re: C. Hamster

                                      I looked at their Facebook ( https://www.facebook.com/amysbakingco ) and assumed it had been hacked. Example post:

                                      Amy's Baking Company Bakery Boutique & Bistro
                                      3 minutes ago
                                      To all of the Yelpers and Reddits: Bring it on. you are just pussies. come to arizona. you are weaker than my wife, and weaker than me. come to my business. say it to my face. man to man. my wife is a jewel in the desert. you are just trash. reddits and yelpers just working together to bring us down. pathetic.

                                      1. re: drongo

                                        Have you watched the show? Yeah. That sounds just like them. They are that delusional. All the dessert photos previously posted there are stolen.

                                        1. re: Firegoat

                                          It's just terrible that Paula Deen stole the picture of Amy's cake!

                                          http://www.pauladeen.com/recipes/reci...
                                          http://amysbakingco.com/order-online-2/ (scroll down to Candied Rose Petal Cake).

                                          (from https://www.facebook.com/amysbakingco... )

                                          1. re: drongo

                                            That Paula Deen. Such a bitch. And I guess Martha Stewart too.

                                            1. re: Firegoat

                                              Where is the like button? Love that comment!

                                              1. re: Firegoat

                                                Because they haven't found GOD they will BURN in the fires of HELL. Martha Stewart hacked my website and put pictures of MY CAKES ON IT. The cakes that I BOUGHT all by MYSELF
                                                - Amy

                                            2. re: drongo

                                              Watched the episode on youtube today. Checked out their FB just now... and just wow.

                                              Sad peeps.

                                              1. re: DuchessNukem

                                                I've never seen a business just purposely implode like this. Luckily Samy has a lot of cash or I would actually feel a little bit sorry for their stupid decisions.

                                          2. So is this whole bizarre kerfluffel a pathetic attempt at a reality show for them?

                                            I am mesmerized by this train wreck but am not sure I could watch more on a regular basis.

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                                            1. re: C. Hamster

                                              My husband is convinced it is a play for a reality show. But I agree with you - the thing that was great was that GR didn't put up with them, that he saw the crazy and wiped his hands of it. As much as I loved this particular episode, there is no way I'd watch those two on any show.

                                              1. re: LulusMom

                                                there's no way that it was a play for a show. she is actually crazy. it just came out that she has a conviction for identity theft and was sentenced to 14 months in prison.

                                                1. re: catroast

                                                  People with eyes like that are nuts.

                                                  I sorta feel bad for the "gangsta"

                                                  He probably didn't see this coming.

                                                  1. re: C. Hamster

                                                    How can you feel sorry for that scoundrel? He steals tips. He was a "developer" which I interpret as criminal.

                                                    1. re: Leonardo

                                                      I think taking the tips is criminal in the layman's sense, if not a true crime. You have to be a sociopath with no conscience to takes people's tips that are obviously meant for the server, not the owner.
                                                      How can they sleep at night?

                                                      1. re: monavano

                                                        True. Probably not an actual convictable crime, but servers have successfully sued in civil court and won. Fraud, withholding compensation etc. That's why he controls the POS, he believes that if his name is on all the checks he becomes the server of record. Doubt that would hold up in court before a jury.

                                                        1. re: Leonardo

                                                          I agree that's why he controls the POS (I also think he's a pos!)

                                                          1. re: monavano

                                                            And note how he justified stealing their tips because they were "salaried" That "salary" was probably about a penny over minimum wage and I doubt he offers a 401-K, health insurance, paid maternity leave or anything else a true salaried person receives.

                                                            You are right. A POS.

                                                        2. re: monavano

                                                          i've seen all kinds of federal and state statutes posted in the last few days about how taking tips intended for a serve is illegal

                                                          1. re: catroast

                                                            I can only hope they apply to ABC in Scottsdale. If they don't deserve an IRS audit as much as a Tea Party member ;-)
                                                            I don't know who does!

                                              2. I rarely watch Kitchen Nightmares, but for some reason I read this thread and had to go watch this episode on demand. And wow. Good thing the guy has lots of money to indulge his delusional wife. I loved how she thought anyone who didn't love her food was a hater (that pizza looked disgusting, the burger even worse). And I loved how God was so interested in her life (he chose her career, her husband, her restaurant).

                                                Funny how the food she prepares looked so unappetizing, but the desserts (which the restaurant's website still says is house made) are so beautiful. We see her making the food, but did they show her making any desserts? As others have pointed out, the kitchen didn't even have the necessary equipment.

                                                The few times I have watched Kitchen Nightmares, I generally regret the hour wasted. But I have to say, this episode was pretty funny, especially having the benefit of reading this thread first ;)

                                                1. gonna have to check that episode out.

                                                    1. eater.com saves all the FB posts so you don't have to
                                                      http://eater.com/archives/2013/05/14/...

                                                      1. I have never watched Kitchen Nightmares. But I stumbled onto this thread and read the replies, the comments on yelp/Phoenix New Times, the Facebook page. Oh my god, I'm embarrassed to admit that I'm so enthralled by this. This is as good--or even better--than that story about the Italian place in Buffalo (I think!), with the owner who lied about his background (the name of this one escapes me).

                                                        And I thought "ressling" stood for "Riesling" too!

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                                                        1. re: nofunlatte

                                                          Yep, this is a lot like Valenti's in Buffalo, N.Y.

                                                          http://blogs.artvoice.com/avdaily/201...

                                                          And a Valenti's update:

                                                          http://blogs.artvoice.com/avdaily/201...

                                                          Both Amy and Terry are arrogant liars.

                                                        2. It was stated on that episode that Samy invested a million dollars in opening their business. Given his hot temper and lack of people skills, I would love to know where that nest egg came from. Some of the CH and Yelp posts indicate that the place has been around for 6 yrs but was closed, purportedly for plumbing problems, for prolonged periods. Surely they are not currently making a profit, what with the refused food, and walk-outs. Presumably they are still plowing other money into the business.

                                                          Samy looks to be old enough to be Amy's father; it's not a stretch to think she married his bank account. He seems willing to do anything to placate her. Even with the tip-confiscating, he is slightly less reprehensible than his wife.
                                                          I missed the first minutes of the show. Was it Samy's idea to ask for Ramsay's help? Amy's take on it was that GR was there because they wanted him to defend their restaurant and food, which obviously is not the show's modus operandi. I wonder if that was just another of her delusions, or if Samy told her that was what Ramsay was there for.

                                                          1. I don't watch the show but I've watched clips thanks to alerts in these threads. OMG is all I can say. To the poster above who thought Amy meant wrestling, I did, too. For a moment I couldn't figure out what that had to do with anything. Wowza to this train wreck of a couple.

                                                            1. My friend sent me this buzzfeed article showing the Facebook meltdown: http://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanhatesthis...

                                                              1. They claim that "obviously" they were hacked simultaneously on their website, Facebook, Yelp, Twitter. https://www.facebook.com/amysbakingco

                                                                Even Forbes now has a post on this story: http://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyclay...

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                                                                1. re: drongo

                                                                  Yeah sure. That was the Ressling talking !

                                                                2. Yes- I'm surprised the owners aren't in jail. The way that old fart shoved customers around and the way they ganged up and attacked customers, I simply can't believe they've managed to stay in business as long as they have. We see people on those shows who are neurotically defensive and refusing to admit to doing anything wrong (really stupid way to be, why did you think your restaurant was in trouble to begin with?), but those two took it to grand new heights. What a couple of crazy bastards those two are.

                                                                  And yes, it was certainly the best episode of Kitchen Nightmares I've ever seen!

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                                                                  1. re: EWSflash

                                                                    Had they laid hands on me I would be pressing criminal charges and suing them for assault.

                                                                    1. re: Leonardo

                                                                      I think that's why the husband was telling Amy not to call the police, although I understand (from reports online) that the police did show up, but left without any incident.
                                                                      As an aside, that young customer could have wiped the floor with the old man's greasy hair! It was a hoot watching Samy bow up against a guy the age of his grandson.

                                                                  2. I DVR'd it and was glad I did because my SO and I had to rewind it several times during the show to make sure our eyes and ears were not deceiving us.

                                                                    That is her husband??? When the show started I thought that would be her Dad.

                                                                    He was a real Hugh Heffner type of guy? Seriously?? Yeah, I can see how women would be attracted to an a-hole like that. Sure.

                                                                    Did anyone see any baking going on? I would bet that if someone took a picture of her over to the local Whole Foods and asked someone at the bakery if they recognized her they would probably say yeah, she comes in every other day or so and buys 14 cakes.

                                                                    As someone who paid their way through college by waiting tables I was astounded that he stole their tips! Gee and they wonder why people don't work there for long.

                                                                    I guess the good thing is that they are married to each other and not married to normal people and making those peoples lives a living hell.

                                                                    *Edited for spelling

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                                                                    1. re: Fowler

                                                                      Women in LV were attracted to his whale wallet. The Hunchback of Notre Dame could get a lap dance for the right price, so that wasn't saying much.

                                                                      1. re: Fowler

                                                                        Actually there is a fair amount of discussion regarding her cakes; several people have pointed out that the cake pictures on their website were lifted from Paula Deen, Martha Stewart, Cakewrecks (the "good" ones), etc.

                                                                        And she has admitted on Facebook that she buys the cakes, then said something about not saying that to Gordon because he's not American and doesn't understand how things work here. Definitely all aboard the crazy train.

                                                                        1. re: coney with everything

                                                                          If you look at the "About Us" section of their website they are still saying "We make all our food from scratch..." and "specializing in in-house made desserts"

                                                                          http://amysbakingco.com/about-us/

                                                                          Why leave that up?

                                                                          This almost feels too"bad" to be true!

                                                                          1. re: Breadcrumbs

                                                                            Why leave it up? Because a central trait of sociopaths is that they lie. Constantly. About everything and anything. And believe themselves to be "special", therefore totally justified in doing so.

                                                                              1. re: Breadcrumbs

                                                                                I also note that they have de-linked the "Recent Comments" Section of their site...wonder what they have to hide?

                                                                          2. I find it ironic that they complained about cyber-bullying because of some bad reviews on Yelp, but now have triggered something worse -- almost a cyber-lynching by a cyber-mob. It's interesting that Reddit moderator(s) felt a need to deploy their "anti-witchhunt" procedures.

                                                                            1. Perhaps the best episode so far!

                                                                              At what point during the show did Gordon find out the baked goods were not made by Amy? I don't recall that part, but I did leave the room at one point -- I was getting wine, but I don't think it was Riesling.

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                                                                              1. re: Disneyfreak

                                                                                That never came up on the show. That came up on their Facebook page both they admitting it and then someone tracked down all the photos she had posted in the past of things she had made and found the original owners .. including independent bakers who are pissed off and Paula Deen and Martha Stewart

                                                                                1. re: Firegoat

                                                                                  I do not subscribe to Facebook but it comes as no surprise that not only were they not making the baked goods but also dumb enough to admit it on Facebook.

                                                                                  1. re: Fowler

                                                                                    and have the hubris to think that no one will notice that they bogarted other people's work/photos and call them out on the copyright infringement!

                                                                                    1. re: monavano

                                                                                      That was the one thing Gordon seemed to like -- the baked goods. Guess it makes sense that they weren't made there.

                                                                                      1. re: Disneyfreak

                                                                                        And he missed the perfect opportunity to get them on the ropes or work them into the corner. All Gordon had to do was ask Amy a few questions about how she made "her" bakery goods.

                                                                                        Example:

                                                                                        Gordon: "Well, Amy, this cheesecake is delightful. Please tell me what kind of cheese you used?"

                                                                                        Amy: "Well, ah, um, well, I used the, um, cheese, ah, every good baker, um, uses in cheesecake. NOW I AM SICK AND TIRED OF YOU ASKING ME QUESTIONS! WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE COMING IN HERE AND ASKING ME WHAT KIND OF CHEESE I USE IN MY CHEESECAKE!!!"

                                                                                        Gordon: "Amy, you actually were the one that contacted my producer and requested I come here and help you."

                                                                                        1. re: Fowler

                                                                                          Ah, the old "best defense is a good offense" trick.

                                                                              2. Good gracious, I cannot take my eyes off this trainwreck! It's one thing to lie from behind your keyboard on your FB page claimed hacking, but another entirely to be filmed by the local news saying same.

                                                                                They set up a new FB page for the biz and are just as abusive. Calling detractors "pig-people" and telling them to f*%^ a duck. (Edited to add: that may be a troll/parody page though, but done well in their style.)

                                                                                The husband asked if we'd go there if they still exist and if we were in the area. We agreed that we'd pop in for a simple drink (bottled beers at the bar) but no food; and we'd hope for a floorshow.

                                                                                1. A clip from a TV news show
                                                                                  CBS 5 News went to the bakery to find out what's going on. Amy Bouzaglo was not happy to see us.

                                                                                  "You can't film us," she said.

                                                                                  But we asked about those Facebook posts.

                                                                                  "I'm not making those," she said. "Someone has hacked into our account. The FBI is involved, you're not allowed to film me, you're trespassing, please leave."

                                                                                  Just as our cameras were being kicked off the property, the story got even more bizarre. Co-owner Samy Bouzaglo came out, pushed his wife away and decided to talk to us.

                                                                                  "I cannot give you any interview, we have a contract with Kitchen Nightmare and we cannot talk to no press for now," he said.

                                                                                  But then, he just kept talking. Samy backed up Amy and said someone else wrote those scathing Facebook messages.

                                                                                  "They hack to our Facebook, twitters, everything, you know," he said.

                                                                                  Since our visit to the bakery they posted a note on Facebook about their accounts being hacked, saying they're working with police to make sure it doesn't happen again.
                                                                                  http://www.kpho.com/story/22252110/re...

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                                                                                  1. re: Firegoat

                                                                                    I'm sure the FBI is making it their top priority to investigate their "hacked" Facebook page.

                                                                                    1. re: Firegoat

                                                                                      Acting just like they did on KN.

                                                                                      The husband clearly likes the camera.

                                                                                      Thanks for the link.

                                                                                    2. I am thinking these two graduated from the Ed Debevic's School of How to be Obnoxious and Screw Up Running a Restaurant.

                                                                                      1. I love this whole thing too much for it to be healthy. LOL. So, the only things that were edible were the desserts, which she didn't make?? unreal

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                                                                                        1. re: justme123

                                                                                          I read a number of the food reviews on CH and Yelp; it was often mentioned that the pastries were dry. Now that we know they were not freshly made in-house, it's no wonder.

                                                                                        2. Other than curiosity seekers and folks who somehow have remained completely oblivious to this side show, who on earth would dine at this place now?

                                                                                          Who would work there?

                                                                                          ...and why call your place a "Baking Company" if you had no intention of doing so?

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                                                                                          1. re: Breadcrumbs

                                                                                            "Other than curiosity seekers and folks who somehow have remained completely oblivious to this side show, who on earth would dine at this place now?"

                                                                                            Easy does it there now Breadcrumbs. Pimps, lunatics, thiefs and dope addicts need some place to eat and feel at home.

                                                                                          2. Aside from the insanity...

                                                                                            When a restaurant says they are a bakery and claim they bake things- which they don't and they claim they make the pasta- which they don't, at what point does this business practice become criminal fraud? Or, can restaurants with no ethics legally lie to customers to this extent? And I will never ever understand how professed christians behave this way but that's a whole other subject.

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                                                                                            1. re: RC51Mike

                                                                                              Restaurants that claim food is house-made when it's actually made elsewhere (even in a factory) are ubiquitous -- I think it would be impractical to try to clamp down on that practice.

                                                                                              This case is particularly egregious though -- because "baking" is in their name, and features prominently on their web site: "Specializing in house made desserts.... We make all our food from scratch using only the highest quality ingredients to ultimately produce a superb product. We are best known for our fanciful cakes and desserts, elaborately decorated with homemade butter cream frosting and edible flowers and glitter. ... A.B.C. is a cozy Mecca for lovers of all kinds of delicious homemade baked goods ..." etc, etc.

                                                                                            2. And it continues.....
                                                                                              https://www.change.org/petitions/the-...

                                                                                              Gordon should have made this like a 4 part series!

                                                                                              1. She spent 14 months in jail a decade ago for committing bank fraud.

                                                                                                http://www.ibtimes.com/amys-baking-co...

                                                                                                1. ....and finally, we have a PR company on board. Grand reopening next week plus likely press conference beforehand.

                                                                                                  Edited to add: needs to be a Scottsdale/AZ CH meetup lol.

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                                                                                                  1. re: DuchessNukem

                                                                                                    Don't care if the PR company employs Don Draper, there ain't enough polish in the world to shine up that turd of a business

                                                                                                    But YES YES YES to the CH's in the area being at the grand opening...hopefully with reportage to follow!

                                                                                                    1. re: coney with everything

                                                                                                      No, they hired an even bigger train wreck of a PR guy.... this should get even crazier.

                                                                                                      http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/bell...

                                                                                                  2. I just read about the KN episode concerning this place on Yahoo, I'm now curious to watch this train wreck of an episode. The consenus seems to be that the owners are quite the drama queens and someone mentioned that they are probably looking for their own reality show. It wouldn't surprise me one bit in this day and age but what really shocks me (not surprised but shocking and disappointing) is the way people respond to attention seekers. I was browsing their FB & Yelp pages and was just appalled at the comments towards this couple. People are just giving them what they want, "attention" in the form of cyber-bullying. I guess if this restaurant is truly mis-representing itself by stating that they bake their own goods they deserve a little push back but wow, who the heck cares especially if you don't live anywhere near the area. I guess that's the world we live in this day and age. 78,000 likes on Facebook?? 1,000+ "reviews" on Yelp in the past few days? LOL Is any press really good press, I guess they'll find out.

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                                                                                                    1. re: JerkPork

                                                                                                      You make some good points but there are some people in this world who are so desperate for attention that they do not care if they receive positive attention or negative attention. All they care about is the attention.

                                                                                                      It is not "cyber-bullying" to honestly respond to their actions. They are despicable people and are getting what they asked for.

                                                                                                      1. re: Fowler

                                                                                                        all they have to do is sign off. it's one thing if your classmates are tormenting you online for reasons that are out of your control, it's another thing for adults to act abhorrently and focus the world's mal-intent upon themselves.

                                                                                                        1. re: Fowler

                                                                                                          Hilarious, I just watched the first 10 minutes, this is classic. She has to be over exaggerating, come on. They are clueless about how to run a restaurant. I've met some crazies in my lifetime but she can't be for real, you can't run a resto acting foolish like that.

                                                                                                          1. re: JerkPork

                                                                                                            They probably think that whole Seinfeld Soup Nazi episode is a fantastic business model.

                                                                                                            1. re: Fowler

                                                                                                              Fowler, I was thinking the same thing, Soup Nazi big time. This is beyond hilarious. Even funnier, I was reading the 2010 Yelp reviews and specifically Amy's rebuttals, she ends one reply with a "MEOW", priceless. I feel bad for people like that actually, I'm sure most on here like to cook at home and are probably pretty good at it but there's no way that even a small minority of us would be able to just start a restaurant cooking for more than 10 people at a time. I take back most of my original comment from above after seeing part of the episode and reading their Yelp replies, that is not proper human behavior, and it's horrible customer service, acting or not.

                                                                                                              1. re: Fowler

                                                                                                                But the thing about the Soup Nazi is that his soup was so fantastic that people lined up for it and were willing to endure the abuse and capricious behavior

                                                                                                                I didn't see ANYONE lining up for ABC food. And if they were so awesome with amazing food, why would you invite GR in the first place?

                                                                                                                I actually believe they both need psychiatric help and a prescription for some strong meds.

                                                                                                        2. Katy, the girl that was fired, answers questions on reddit

                                                                                                          http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments...

                                                                                                            1. Guy Fieri "weighs in" on Amy's Baking Company and basically doesn't say a damn thing.....

                                                                                                              http://eater.com/archives/2013/05/15/...

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                                                                                                              1. re: Firegoat

                                                                                                                You nailed that Firegoat, Guy Fieri says NOTHING.

                                                                                                                1. re: TrishUntrapped

                                                                                                                  Didn't want to be harsh to potential network coworkers. Those store bought cakes are money! The undercooked pizza is off the hook! Samy really is the mayor of flavor town.

                                                                                                                2. re: Firegoat

                                                                                                                  Lol. Way to look right past that 900# kohl-eyed blonde gorilla, Guy. Strong work.

                                                                                                                  (Seriously, I like the guy, be fun to have a beer with, I just can't shake the feeling that somehow he'd end up living on my sofa for the next three weeks eating sloppy joes and meatball subs in just his stretchy man-panties.)

                                                                                                                    1. re: DuchessNukem

                                                                                                                      Nah...he has too much money and ego to do that.

                                                                                                                  1. Yep, I'm kindof drawn to this trainwreck as well.

                                                                                                                    The thing about the desserts: I know it's already been established that they are not made there after all, but I think the reason that Gordon asked repeatedly about the desserts is this- I've never seen a bakery that really makes all it's own desserts display them like that- all pre-cut... why would you do that? So they would dry out in the arid AZ desert? Not unless you had amazing turnover, which they clearly do not.

                                                                                                                    Nobody who put that kind of effort into baking would ever do that. How many pieces were in that case? 50? These were not only pre-made, but precut and slacked out into the case.

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                                                                                                                    1. re: cheesemonger

                                                                                                                      I think Gordon kept asking Amy if she made the cakes because he was going to out her at some point for lying. It's clear from that kitchen that no baking was going on there.

                                                                                                                      1. re: TrishUntrapped

                                                                                                                        I agree. GR made such a production of eating and loving her dessert that I assume he knew or suspected that she didnt make them.

                                                                                                                        1. re: TrishUntrapped

                                                                                                                          yes- that's the point I was trying to make, but didn't make very well- that he knew, and was testing her.

                                                                                                                          I'm sure that if I looked at enough vendor sites for wholesale-only bakeries, I could fine that dessert that he ate, but there's no need, as she's already admitted that fraud.

                                                                                                                          This whole mess is just the gift that keeps on giving, drama-wise.

                                                                                                                        2. re: cheesemonger

                                                                                                                          My guess is the display case was arranged for show, not proper serving. To their sole credit I think this is the first episode where the owners cleaned the place before GR showed up.

                                                                                                                          1. re: RC51Mike

                                                                                                                            Katy, the waitress who was fired on the show, said the place was always clean...apparently because they had so little business, cleaning gave them something to do. If you have time to lean, you have time to clean :)

                                                                                                                        3. Amy decided to start an online flame war with Reddit and lost, badly. Reddit blew up so bad that the forum mods had to delete multiple posts because it turned into a witch hunt on Amy and Samy.

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                                                                                                                          1. re: Bunson

                                                                                                                            " the forum mods had to delete multiple posts because it turned into a witch hunt "

                                                                                                                            That almost sounds like one of the forums all of us here post on. :-)

                                                                                                                          2. This thread prompted me to watch the episode, On Demand.

                                                                                                                            Even tho' Ramsey is the Executive Producer of KN, if I were the deciding programming executive at FOX Television, I think I would have killed the episode. Nothing, absolutely nothing redeeming, entertaining, informative, amusing, voyeuristic, or fun here. Just nastiness.

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                                                                                                                            1. re: RedTop

                                                                                                                              I learned what psychosis is like in a restaurant environment.

                                                                                                                              1. re: Bunson

                                                                                                                                I await their invite on Dr. Phil or Dr. Drew shows.

                                                                                                                                1. re: JerkPork

                                                                                                                                  Or that cheaters show so Amy can throw some punches and her hubby gets all beat up.

                                                                                                                                1. re: RedTop

                                                                                                                                  You've obviously never watched FOX before.

                                                                                                                                2. Saw this episode too, and was amazed. Why would this couple behave like this on television, even if that's what they're really like? In the first part, before Ramsay arrives, they clearly know the cameras are there. Do they think they look reasonable? Do you think the Kitchen Nightmares producers found them, rather than being asked, and fed these obvious lunatics some line about how they could clear their Yelp-damaged names by doing the show? (It seems like this business got enough of a heads up that they could scour the walk-in, unlike most of the restaurants they feature.) Even then... Why would they say and do the the things they did? Still shaking my head in wonderment.

                                                                                                                                  One of my favorite lines: "I'm the gangster, not him."

                                                                                                                                  They should hope no IRS employees with time on their hands were watching.

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                                                                                                                                  1. re: ninrn

                                                                                                                                    Why? Because they are pychotically delusional with ZERO insight into their outrageous beliefs and behaviors. This is NOT an act! So yes, they believe themselves to be totally reasonable. No I doubt KN told them "We will clear your damaged names by Gordon telling the public your food is fabulous!"

                                                                                                                                  2. How do people get like this? Were they always crazy? Did they ever make their own pastry and pasta or has it all been re-sold from the beginning?

                                                                                                                                    I feel the tiniest bit of compassion for the husband, he at least seemed disturbed by the incredibly high turnover, and he is the one losing all the money and may just be a pawn in Amys crazy game. I could see him being the one to agree to do the show, he clearly feels powerless when it comes to dealing with his chef/partner, and does not know how to run a restaurant.

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                                                                                                                                    1. re: babette feasts

                                                                                                                                      I also have a shred of sympathy for Samy. He does appear to me to be a clueless, powerless pawn within their relationship. But regarding their business he's hand in hand with her making ridiculously bad decisions.

                                                                                                                                      1. re: C. Hamster

                                                                                                                                        I've no sympathy or compassion for Samy. He chose her. He enables her. And did you see his anger when Gordon told customers the truth, that their tips go to Samy and not to the server? They are both criminals. She has a felony record and prison time, and he just hasn't yet been caught.

                                                                                                                                        1. re: Leonardo

                                                                                                                                          I usually know if I do or do not have sympathy for someone, but in this case I am uncertain. On the one hand, as the show displayed, he is a liar and he steals from his employees. No sympathy from me there. But on the other hand he not only has to work with Amy but also go home with her every day. I cannot even fathom what it would be like to work with her let alone suffer the pain of being married to her.

                                                                                                                                          1. re: Fowler

                                                                                                                                            Can't help but wonder if, once she got her claws into him , if he was simply dragged down to her level.

                                                                                                                                            1. re: Withnail42

                                                                                                                                              She met him in LV where he hung around casinos, bars and "Playboy bunnies". Not a choir boy.

                                                                                                                                              1. re: monavano

                                                                                                                                                So much for my theory.

                                                                                                                                                I figured he wasn't a choir boy. Just thought that perhaps he wasn't quite as crazy when then met and adopted if you can beat them join them mode.

                                                                                                                                                1. re: Withnail42

                                                                                                                                                  But God himself sent Samy to Amy! Because, you know, God's got nothing better to do than send Amy a wallet, uh, a husband.

                                                                                                                                                  1. re: monavano

                                                                                                                                                    God sent her a nice Israeli Jewish boy. Who says he doesn't have a sense of humor?

                                                                                                                                        2. re: C. Hamster

                                                                                                                                          Save your sympathy for Samy. He wouldn't spit on his mother if she was on fire.

                                                                                                                                        1. re: Firegoat

                                                                                                                                          Thanks for the link. The Washington Post, along with their reporting, often brings an interesting and meaningful perspective to issues.

                                                                                                                                        2. So now the "grand reopening event" is already sold out. With some unnamed amount of proceeds going to a still unnamed charity.... awesome.
                                                                                                                                          http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05...

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                                                                                                                                          1. re: Firegoat

                                                                                                                                            I suspect the proceeds will go into the unnamed "charity" called Amy's purse.

                                                                                                                                            1. re: Fowler

                                                                                                                                              But I"m sure all the "customers" will be just people off the street and not family and friends and PR puff people.....

                                                                                                                                              1. re: Fowler

                                                                                                                                                or the unnamed amount of proceeds, if there is really a charity, will be $20

                                                                                                                                                1. re: Fowler

                                                                                                                                                  Amy's maiden name: ..........Amanda Patricia Bossingham

                                                                                                                                                  Arrested: ............................October 11, 2002

                                                                                                                                                  Charge: ...............................Submitted line of credit using another person's identity

                                                                                                                                                  Credit line: ...........................$15,000

                                                                                                                                                  Sentenced: ...........................June 15, 2004

                                                                                                                                                  Restitution: ...........................$36,294.95

                                                                                                                                                  Began sentence: ..................October 7, 2008

                                                                                                                                                  Amount of time served:..........1 year, 2 months in federal jail

                                                                                                                                                  1. re: Leonardo

                                                                                                                                                    Yep, she's a felon without a conscience.

                                                                                                                                                    1. re: Leonardo

                                                                                                                                                      So who baked the cakes and cooked the pizza and microwaved the ravioli when she was in the slammer?

                                                                                                                                                      1. re: C. Hamster

                                                                                                                                                        Good question. It seems like they don't have consistent hours and can be open on a whim.
                                                                                                                                                        I don't know where the money is coming from. Fishy.

                                                                                                                                                          1. re: C. Hamster

                                                                                                                                                            "So who baked the cakes and cooked the pizza and microwaved the ravioli when she was in the slammer?"

                                                                                                                                                            Well, God of course. Duh!

                                                                                                                                                            1. re: Fowler

                                                                                                                                                              God sure loves Amy. He sent her Samy and gave her innate culinary talent that encompasses EVERYTHING culinary.
                                                                                                                                                              Her delusion is difficult the wrap the mind around, isn't it?

                                                                                                                                                        1. re: Firegoat

                                                                                                                                                          Ironic that they are (supposedly) contributing charity that fights cyber bullying. Which is exactly they have been doing for years...Oh wait their accounts were hacked...

                                                                                                                                                          1. re: Withnail42

                                                                                                                                                            Kudos to their PR people for spinning this, but their true colors have been shown. The damage to their reputation is beyond repair.
                                                                                                                                                            Lipstick on a pig, still a pig.

                                                                                                                                                            1. re: monavano

                                                                                                                                                              Their PR guy, Jason Rose is a pretty greasy fellow himself. He is the local tv injury lawyer of PR guys. On Wednesday, he had a radio interview ripping ABC apart and how their brand was unsalvageable saying that they should just close the place and call it a loss. He got hired by them later that day and did an interview on that same station Thursday saying he was going to stage a turnaround and help this couple who own a small neighborhood business. http://kdkb.com/shmonty/interviews
                                                                                                                                                              Oh, and the guy emmceeing the re-grand opening event is Jarrett Maupin. A convicted felon known for his antics like suing the city of Phoenix because they removed him from the ballot during a mayoral race (he was 20 at the time and a majority of his signatures that qualified him to be on the ballot were fraudulent).
                                                                                                                                                              It's becoming quite the cast of colorful characters!

                                                                                                                                                              1. re: fledflew

                                                                                                                                                                Like my Grandmother once told me...birds of a feather flock together.

                                                                                                                                                                1. re: Fowler

                                                                                                                                                                  Totally.
                                                                                                                                                                  I guess Samy ponied up the money to change the PR guy's attitude.
                                                                                                                                                                  They really should not be in the hospitality business whatsoever.
                                                                                                                                                                  I still think the restaurant is a front for something else because they can't be making money.
                                                                                                                                                                  Their reputation is shit and no one will buy the crap they're churning out. If they get people in there for the re-opening, it's for the car wreck factor.
                                                                                                                                                                  I can't wait to see them meltdown on YouTube.

                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: monavano

                                                                                                                                                                    "I still think the restaurant is a front for something else because they can't be making money."

                                                                                                                                                                    That is what I was thinking as well especially after Ramsey confronted him about stealing the tips and Samy blurted out that he was a gangster.

                                                                                                                                                                    Most people that are trying to earn an honest living don't go around telling people they are a gangster.

                                                                                                                                                        2. i wonder why it is that a PR firm can make over the restaurant but not Ramsay?

                                                                                                                                                          1. And here's a related gem from failblog:

                                                                                                                                                            http://cheezburger.com/7466045952

                                                                                                                                                            Don't know about the veracity of this, but even if it's been doctored, it's pretty funny.

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                                                                                                                                                            1. re: nofunlatte

                                                                                                                                                              There are some people who should not procreate and Amy is one of them. I feel so sorry for any spawn that is hers. I even feel sorry for her cats.

                                                                                                                                                            2. Everybody seems to think this Amy is a gold-digger and far worse than "Samy", but I have more sympathy for an all-out crazy paranoiac who can at least put together a decent cake, than this creepy old man whose last job "used to keep him surrounded by strippers and go-go dancers and other beautiful young women" and who feels no compunction about taking a big cut of his staff's pay (to me it sounds like old habits dying hard). If you look up this Amy lady on the Internet (yes, I have FAR too much time on my hands), her Linkedin profile shows her only past employment to have been as office manager and all-round administrator in different First Assembly of God churches, so I think her religious fervor, like all the other fervor, is real enough. Maybe she "saved" him or something.

                                                                                                                                                              Really, there's a lot worse things two people like this could be up to than running a bad restaurant. Aside from the appalling tip-stealing practice, I think they're doing a public service by keeping each other occupied and relatively confined.

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                                                                                                                                                              1. re: ninrn

                                                                                                                                                                They work with the public in a hospitality business, how much worse can it get!?

                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: ninrn

                                                                                                                                                                    Amy is an identity thief who served time in federal prison.

                                                                                                                                                                    Samy is seeking tail.

                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: ninrn

                                                                                                                                                                      ninrn, you don't know what you're talking about. She lied about the cakes & pastries.They are ALL store-bought. Photos of cakes on their website, represented as her creations, all are stolen. It has yet to be proven that she can make one edible piece of food. She has threatened to poison the food of those who dare complain. She is dangerous. Stop painting her as some poor helpless victim. It is female entitlement to let her off the hook and focus on him (scuzzball that he is). She is a criminal who did time in federal prison for ID theft.

                                                                                                                                                                      1. re: Leonardo

                                                                                                                                                                        Yikes! Sorry. All I knew was what I saw on the episode and read in a quick peek at their entries on LinkedIn. (Clearly I'm not the only one with time on my hands). I thought we were all just having fun here speculating -- just speculating -- about extremely strange characters we don't know and never will know, who somehow managed to stand out as extra bizarre on a reality show that works by making people look like freaks and asses.

                                                                                                                                                                        I don't think calling someone an all-out crazy paranoiac is painting her as a helpless victim. In fact I thought the idea of an all-out crazy paranoiac religious fanatic and her ordained-by-God gangster partner was a scary thought, not a sympathetic one. But since I clearly don't know nearly as much about these people's lives as you guys (or care to), I take back everything I said and will avoid this thread in the future.

                                                                                                                                                                        With no expectation of any entitlements whatsoever ; > ), Ninrn

                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: ninrn

                                                                                                                                                                          Ah, don't avoid the thread. It's simply amazing how one crazy couple that probably 99% of us will never meet, can engender such interest/furor. But I can't tear my eyes away.

                                                                                                                                                                          Plus I very much like your comment on "they're doing a public service by keeping each other occupied and relatively confined". Nicely put. :)

                                                                                                                                                                          1. re: ninrn

                                                                                                                                                                            Please don't go away. It's like a train wreck (Linds Lohan, anybody?) that we can't help looking at. I too appreciated and was amused by your "public service" comment. Yes, they scare me too. And sorry for my overly harsh opening sentence.

                                                                                                                                                                        2. re: ninrn

                                                                                                                                                                          I think they're both using each other. She's using him for money, he's using her for tail, even though she's not that attractive, but she has the "look" of being attractive.

                                                                                                                                                                          1. re: juliejulez

                                                                                                                                                                            "I think they're both using each other."

                                                                                                                                                                            That could very well be the case. In their narcissistic minds, they probably each figure they are getting what they want out of the other person while not realizing the other person is thinking the same thing.

                                                                                                                                                                            1. re: juliejulez

                                                                                                                                                                              That's a good way to put Amy's look. She is very good at painting on her makeup to give the illusion of attractive features.
                                                                                                                                                                              Plus, she's got really good hair ;-)

                                                                                                                                                                              1. re: monavano

                                                                                                                                                                                Yup, she has the perfect "real housewife" look. Take off all the make up and the nice hair and she's not real attractive.

                                                                                                                                                                                1. re: monavano

                                                                                                                                                                                  Ugh. Not all my idea of pretty. Caked-on clown makeup?

                                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: Leonardo

                                                                                                                                                                                    Ah, but she's also had obvious "work" done on her face. It always leaves that rather plastic doll-face quality.

                                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: chicgail

                                                                                                                                                                                      Yes! I was thinking that Amy looks like the adult version of those creepy glamour shots of little beauty pageant contestants. The ones with "flippers", hair pieces, contacts, plucked eyebrows, spray tans and plastered on clown makeup. They literally look like fake little dolls.

                                                                                                                                                                              2. re: ninrn

                                                                                                                                                                                btw, she can't put together a cake; they import them from out of state.

                                                                                                                                                                              3. I generally enjoy Kitchen Nightmares, but haven't seen this episode yet - and at this point I'm reluctant to. It sounds like these people are just hamming it up for the attention and publicity, wannabe media whores. If they give these ass clowns their own reality show, I'm cancelling my cable once and for all.

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                                                                                                                                                                                1. re: Atomic76

                                                                                                                                                                                  There are 'reality' shows that are restaurant-based that include the owners 'hamming it up', but this episode of 'Kitchen Nightmares' is not one of them. This couple really are lunatics.

                                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: Atomic76

                                                                                                                                                                                    They have a history of acting like this. Yelp has some of their rants going back several years.

                                                                                                                                                                                  2. One thing I keep thinking...

                                                                                                                                                                                    All those knives in the kitchen with two looneys scurrying about.

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                                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: RedTop

                                                                                                                                                                                      Apparently, Amy's weapon is hot pepper to colon blow you to death.

                                                                                                                                                                                    2. I have to wonder why they are having a job fair for 30 positions in a restaurant that size. Did all their regular staff quit? I know Miranda quit 3 days after the filming, went back for her final check and it ended up with the police being called. Not sure why they are hiring for bakers either... since they don't actually bake....

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                                                                                                                                                                                      1. re: Firegoat

                                                                                                                                                                                        Maybe it's another PR stunt. From watching KN, I don't see why they'd need 30 people, unless they're expecting their normal attrition, since the locals are lazy and stinky!

                                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: monavano

                                                                                                                                                                                          Well I'm willing to bet my cat's food that the "sold out" reopening is filled with people bought by the PR firm.... meow

                                                                                                                                                                                          1. re: Firegoat

                                                                                                                                                                                            I'd be shocked if the attendees weren't vetted heavily in order to spin an optimal narrative of the event.

                                                                                                                                                                                            1. re: monavano

                                                                                                                                                                                              I agree that should be the plan mona but with how this caper has been unfolding, we just never know.

                                                                                                                                                                                              There may have been a cat call for feline lovers and if that's the case, we all know they can be fickle and catty!

                                                                                                                                                                                              1. re: Breadcrumbs

                                                                                                                                                                                                I also wonder if all attendees will have to sign confidentiality/non disclosure agreements.
                                                                                                                                                                                                The only reason I can see that someone wants to go to this is to talk about the "show" they saw on social media etc. the next day!
                                                                                                                                                                                                Meow!

                                                                                                                                                                                                1. re: monavano

                                                                                                                                                                                                  Agreed mona. Again little (no) business savvy has been shown thus far so they may not even think of that.

                                                                                                                                                                                        2. re: Firegoat

                                                                                                                                                                                          I think they are probably staffed for their usual (low) level of business, and that will be inadequate for a sold-out grand reopening. But I don't see how they can possibly train lots of new people in time for the reopening. They should just hire a catering company.

                                                                                                                                                                                          Btw, I see Amy is doing an interview on TV at 10 pm tonight -- see http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/region_...

                                                                                                                                                                                          1. re: drongo

                                                                                                                                                                                            Be sure to check out the radio interviews with Katy and Miranda as well. Miranda got treated particularly dickishly.

                                                                                                                                                                                            1. re: Firegoat

                                                                                                                                                                                              What radio interviews on which station? I have spent a fair amount of time in Mesa and am familiar with the radio market.

                                                                                                                                                                                            2. re: drongo

                                                                                                                                                                                              Darn. Not in the viewing area. Any way you can post it after it airs?

                                                                                                                                                                                              As former PR person myself, I have to wonder what media training that crazy broad would be like. Better them than me.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: drongo

                                                                                                                                                                                                    Thanks for the link. To summarize: Amy and Samy are victims on many levels.
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Not the servers whose tips were stole, not the customers who were fraudulently led to believe their tips went to the servers, or the people who were yelled at and physically assaulted.
                                                                                                                                                                                                    MmK. Got it.

                                                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: drongo

                                                                                                                                                                                                      1200 reservations? Whats in the drinking water out there in The Valley Of The Sun?

                                                                                                                                                                                                    2. re: Firegoat

                                                                                                                                                                                                      What job fair? I missed that. Do you have a link to that story?

                                                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: Firegoat

                                                                                                                                                                                                          Almost be worth heading over just out of curiosity.

                                                                                                                                                                                                          1. re: Withnail42

                                                                                                                                                                                                            Oh, I think there will be some curious bystanders around on Tuesday.

                                                                                                                                                                                                            1. re: John E.

                                                                                                                                                                                                              Some people have already contacted the police for a permit to protest on Tuesday.

                                                                                                                                                                                                              1. re: Firegoat

                                                                                                                                                                                                                I think some sort of organized protest is going a bit too far for my tastes. They have been exposed for their business practices, now let the marketplace decide their fate.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                1. re: Firegoat

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  What are they protesting?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  That they are mentally unbalanced bullies and liars?

                                                                                                                                                                                                      1. Unverified internet rumor that I will be horrified if it is true:

                                                                                                                                                                                                        REAL NEWS: If you haven't heard already,there is a huge rumor going around that Amy & Samy are talking with producers A Smith & Company, who are the same people that produce Hell's Kitchen. They are trying to pitch a show to either TLC or The Food Network. Show is rumored to be called "Amy & Samy 24/7"

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                                                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: Firegoat

                                                                                                                                                                                                          If a tiny, orange Umpa Loompa can built an empire from being a waste of space on the shores of Jersey, and stinking up the entire country of Italy, I'm sure America will also open its arms to these freaks also ;-)
                                                                                                                                                                                                          What a country, what a country...

                                                                                                                                                                                                          1. re: monavano

                                                                                                                                                                                                            There are enough little networks (like whoever broadcasts "Killer Karaoke" or that Gigolo show) that one of them might take a flyer on this waste of electrons

                                                                                                                                                                                                            At the very least, it would provide plenty of material for "The Soup"

                                                                                                                                                                                                          2. re: Firegoat

                                                                                                                                                                                                            The Food Network would never go for that train wreck

                                                                                                                                                                                                            It might even be too much for TLC.

                                                                                                                                                                                                            I'd rather watch hoarders or shows about people addicted to cheesy potatoes.

                                                                                                                                                                                                            1. re: Firegoat

                                                                                                                                                                                                              A show like that would not surprise me. They could get a camera crew to follow them around documenting all of the "funny" things they do like tripping old women, stealing from the church donation basket, tearing the wings off live butterflies, parking in the spot reserved for the disabled, etc.

                                                                                                                                                                                                              1. re: Fowler

                                                                                                                                                                                                                ... kicking puppies, eating babies...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                1. re: Fowler

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Ringing in asparagus as green beans at the self check out

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Returning the cocktail dress to Macy's covered in black eyeliner and reeking of Aramis

                                                                                                                                                                                                              2. I see Amy as a natural successor to Sandra Lee, all she has to do is come up with something even close to the Kwanzaa cake.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: Firegoat

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/bell...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    This is a funny little quip about the PR firm.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Funny, I haven't seen the show. This thread just caught my eye. I have been keeping up with the follies on Chow Bella (I follow this local food blog daily). There have been quite a few stories over the past two years if you're interested. I guess I'll have to see if I can catch the episode On Demand.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      1. re: C. Hamster

                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Sorry about that, the letter link was embedded in the story. Here is a direct route.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                        http://assets.bizjournals.com/phoenix...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    1. interesting development, firegoat.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      the one thing that's true here is this- they will accept no feedback that doesn't confirm their own sense of fabulousness.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      so, for this "re-grand opening" there are only 2 possible results:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      1) positive feedback confirming what they believe.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                      2) negative feedback, leading to more meltdowns, accusations of bullying, temper tantrums, etc.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I'm thinking it's 90% going to be #2.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I guess the 3rd possibility is that the whole thing gets cancelled.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      as an aside, the crying that you've been bullied because someone didn't like your food really makes a mockery of real bullying. she's not being bullied, she's being told the truth about her abilities.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                      1. re: cheesemonger

                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Their "press conference" scheduled for tomorrow is already canceled (citing death threats?!), so possibility #3 has to officially join the ranks.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: monavano

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          There are so many other more important news stories going on right now, like the tornado in Moore, Oklahoma, that I feel horrible in admitting that I am looking forward to reading eyewitness accounts by people from the grand opening.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I feel shallow. :(

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          1. re: Firegoat

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I think it's when the news gets so heavy that we need silly absurd entertainment, as a release. Don't feel bad about that.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            1. re: hyacinthgirl

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I agree. Most people need to open up the release valve and ease the pressure a bit. It's a healthy thing, really, self preservation.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      2. Side by side listing of where Amy's website photos were stolen from.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                        http://www.wilmunder.com/ABC/Food_Pho...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Chef-boy-ar-dee!!!!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: Sooeygun

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I love google images. Just drag a picture into the box...and all the sites its been posted up on is revealed. Works great to expose fake people too. The worst part was that I found countless other bakeries stealing the same picture too. Searching the picture of the almond croissant through google image search shows it was used by Avignon Bakery, Cafe at the Mill, Rapps Cafe, among others. WHO MADE THE CROISSANT IN THE PICTURE???

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          1. re: JenniferLopez

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Well, if the "Yelpers hacked my FB" argument doesn't hold up, I'd guess guilty parties would argue their product looks exactly like that but they merely borrowed a better photo to use.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            (By the way, I did not post this. Yelpers hacked my account and did this.)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          2. re: Sooeygun

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I absolutely love the Chef-boy-ar-dee pic!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              1. re: C. Hamster

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I know if I wanted to represent myself as an artisanal preparer of hand made pasta, the Chef would be my model.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            1. Here's a pretty good (altho long) summary of this mess by a local
                                                                                                                                                                                                                              http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/bell...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              1. It's 110% certain GR knew all about how nuts these people were LONG before he set foot in their 'loony-bin'. The production staff and GR knew he was going to walk out. Good fun in sort of a sick way like people who ought to be sitting at a table with 'nurse Ratscit'.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                1. re: Puffin3

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I'm sure that production sussed out Crazy Amy preliminarily, but I'm not sure Gordon knew he was going to walk out.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I just think when you see crazy like that, people who don't want redemption because they're perfect, well, what can you do?
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I think Gordon can call the shots, along with the producers, so I think he was the one who pulled the trigger on leaving, even if that was indeed, on the table from the get-go.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Especially because I've seen far, far greater confrontations on KN, and Gordon seemed to do little provoking, which was restrained for him.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: monavano

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Yeah it was restrained for him b/c he had already been 'briefed' by his production team. Notice he just stood by and let the wackoos hang themselves. GR's production team had already worked out that should GR get into the nut jobs faces too much then walked out it would be GR who might get the negative attention for basically sticking a sharp stick in the face of mental people. He stood back and watched like we did.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: Puffin3

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Look, you obviously think opinion is fact (at least you present it that way), and if you have proof, then spill it, otherwise, we agree to disagree in our OPINIONS.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Personally, this is strictly my opinion, so I'm not going to argue a point that's not based in fact, and furthering your retorts by responding. It isn't productive, and frankly, it's just not a big deal to me, so I'm going to move on in this thread.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Best.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                2. No no no... someone who wasn't there and know no one who was in the place says it was staged.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mark-bo...

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: Firegoat

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I disagree and do believe it was real. The waitress who was fired actually did an AMA on reddit last week and explained that more people did send food back than usual, but that was probably to get a chance to be on camera. As much as I would love to believe people cant be this nasty and mistreat others, she confirms that what happened during the show was real.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: JenniferLopez

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Two members of the production team did an AMA as well and said pretty much the same, that it was all the real deal.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      1. re: ennuisans

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Excuse my ignorance, but what is an AMA, and do you have a link?
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Thanks.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          1. re: monavano

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Thank you JerkPork, yes AMA refers to Ask Me Anything, kind of a mass interview opportunity.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Unfortunately the AMA with the production members has been almost entirely removed!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Fortunately it's hard to scrub the Internet completely, so here's a link to the questions and answers that were saved:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            http://www.reddit.com/r/tabled/commen...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      2. re: Firegoat

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        That Mark Boslough post is an embarrassment. What kind of scientist ignores the facts in favor of his pet theory? I have no doubt that what he describes does happen, but in this case there are eyewitness reports (e.g. the Reddit AMA with the food runner) that he apparently hasn’t even bothered to look at.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        EDIT: Sorry, I didn't see JenniferLopez's post until after I had posted mine -- I didn't mean to post redundant thoughts!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: drongo

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Yeah, that column was a setback for the skepticism movement.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      3. A new job interview question. Did you watch Kitchen Nightmares?
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        http://radaronline.com/2013/05/amys-b...

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: Firegoat

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          As predicted by others in this thread: '“Amy and Samy have been in touch with a new PR firm who will help them sort through possible reality show opportunities,” the source said.'

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          1. re: drongo

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Just as I would NOT set foot in their establishment, I wouldn't waste my time watching their version of reality TV. I think our society has reached a new low when it comes to peering into people's lives for entertainment...and the search for ridiculousness goes on...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            1. re: njmarshall55

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              you mean, highly fictionalized versions of their lives.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        2. No live blogging tonight due to the restaurant's "strict media regulations"
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          twitter is okay tho.... that doesn't sound right.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          http://rickyleepotts.com/2013/05/live...

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          1. re: Firegoat

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Ricky Lee Potts's site was hacked -- see https://twitter.com/rickyleepotts

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Stranger and stranger.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          2. This place opened in 2007. How the heck did it stay in business for so long if it was so awful? That's what I'm trying to figure out.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            1. re: Just Visiting

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Samy has been continuously pouring his own money into it, that's why. To keep wifey happy. Doesn't look as if it's working too well...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              1. re: Leonardo

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I thought they were expecting thousands this week? lol

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                "Amy's Baking Co. shut down for about a week after the episode aired. Fewer than a dozen people were waiting when it reopened Tuesday. Four guards blocked the door and turned reporters away.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/region_...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: JerkPork

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Drug distribution, threats, extortion. Banned from France & Germany. What country will take poor old Samy?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: JerkPork

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Well that old fox really IS the Original Gangster, heh.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      See, Amy doesn't lie about EVERYTHING. :)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                1. Super hilarious. Amy's competition chimes in. To quote a FB poster, Arizona pizza restaurant Mr. Scrib's is "taking someone else's lemons and making lemonade."

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Mr. Scrib's: "52 years and counting without insulting, bullying, calling the cops on, or eye gouging our customers. Just baking the best pizza for the best customers in AZ, minus the cussing."

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Look at the picture on FB, with the cops/security in the background!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  https://www.facebook.com/MrScribsPizz...

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: TrishUntrapped

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Some funny tweets from a guy that was there (and took the mr scribs photo) Pretty much matches everything else. Restaurant not full, security guards there, and the people going in were friends of Samy.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    https://twitter.com/ramzbergeron
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    And also confirms what several people who went there said... Samy still runs the POS.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: TrishUntrapped

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      So I just spent an hour on this website.... Too funny. I'd go there just for the website alone. Pizza looks good, and I'm not a real pizza person. And I'm in NC.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    2. Knowing absolutely nothing about Arizona liquor laws, I have to wonder how Amy (a convicted felon that did prison time) and her co-owner Samy (did prison time over seas) managed to get a liquor license for their restaurant. I remember in the episode on TV that Samy would not allow any of the servers to use the POS (still doesn't after reopening) and would not let them pour the wines.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      1. re: Firegoat

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Great point, Firegoat. In Oregon, no way could they get a liquor license.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: Firegoat

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I think the issue in his deportation case is that he did not disclose his criminal record outside of USA... so he appears "clean" to the local government.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        2. And yet, there's more......
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          http://eater.com/archives/2013/05/22/...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          and

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Just having a reservation won't get you in the door
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          http://stoopidhousewives.com/2013/05/...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          1. A yelp review from someone who claims they were there. Hopefully it isn't deleted before you see it. Doesn't really bash the food that much, but does say you can see the crazy.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            http://www.yelp.com/biz/amys-baking-c...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            1. Unless somebody gets video of this crazy couple acting like they did on Kitchen Nightmares, I think Amanda and Samy's 15 minutes of fame are pretty much over.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              1. re: John E.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                What about the video from yesterday about the deportation issue.. with Samy giving the international "up yours" salute? That's as good as the KN video.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                1. re: drongo

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I already saw that, but I don't believe it has the impact that the hour long show did or the internet nastyness that followed. Maybe I'm just getting tired of it now and think others might feel the same way.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I don't think the stunt they pulled last night will do anything to redeem them in the eyes of the public.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                1. re: TrishUntrapped

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  that youtube is very funny - i cannot believe that "S-Amy" are real people - complete with stage make-up and kitty (or insert one of their choice insult words) boys too. I always thought that GRamsey was a bit over the top edgy - not in this one show - he comes across like a conservative accountant in this episode.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: Georgia Strait

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I'm guessing the producers came back from their scouting trip wetting their pants about these prospects and told Gordon he could phone this one in. Told him to lay off the Fox Network schtick version and just go with the BBC persona. Amy and Samy will do the rest.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: RC51Mike

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I thought that too. He was so gentle and nice in the beginning and just let the absolutely craziness leak in.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: TrishUntrapped

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      That video is going into the 'all-time funniest videos I've ever seen' folder. Thanks for getting my day off to a great start.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      It ranks right up there with this one: (complete non-secretor)http://www.foxbusiness.com/on-air/imu...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    2. Andy Warhol once suggested that everybody has 15 minutes of fame.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      All I can say is that the goofball owners of this train-wreck of a restaurant have proven beyond any doubt that sometimes, 15 minutes can seem like an eternity. LOL

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      1. Yelp now has some reviews from people who were actually there on the reopening night. Pretty interesting reading.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        http://www.yelp.com/biz/amys-baking-c...

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: Firegoat

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          It is. Also a reminder of why Yelp sucks, if you needed a reminder. One girl gave it a 2 star review because she couldn't get anyone to go with her and never actually ate there? Another guy gave it a 1 star review which seemed to mostly be based on the fact that they wouldn't give him a full refund for undercooked pasta?
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I understand wanting to go and observe the drama, but I'm less understanding of those looking to start the drama.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          1. re: seamunky

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            The producers told GR the couple where mental and GR wouldn't look good if he did his usual 'in your face' episode. So GR just sat back and watched the train wreck for a while then left. You wouldn't want him to go up to a table of mental patients in 'One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest' and start screaming at them demanding why none of them could make a descent aioli.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          2. More from the reopening.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            http://www.scottsmarketplace.com/blog...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            and if you check out yelp you'll find people who showed up for their reservations yesterday and were told it was closed

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            1. re: Firegoat

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Samy is still kicking guests out, oh the sweet irony when the INS kicks him out of the US. lol

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              http://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/bl...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              1. re: JerkPork

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I don't understand how this place hasn't yet been shut down by the health authorities.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                1. re: LindaWhit

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I thought Ramsay said their kitchen was the cleanest restaurant kitchen he has ever seen?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: John E.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Well, if fruit flies are showing up in drinks, that has changed.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: LindaWhit

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      "Well, if fruit flies are showing up in drinks, that has changed."

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Huh?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: LindaWhit

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          i was looking for the story about fruit flies in the drinks.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          1. re: John E.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            It's in JerkPork's post just a bit upthread.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            1. re: LindaWhit

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              According to Ramsay and in interviews with one of the former waitresses, the kitchen and restaurant are spotless. I know exactly what happened with the fruit flies. The drink was ordered with a lemon twist. Amanda and Sami got some locally griwn lemons and at least one of them is infested with fruit flies. They also are not oaying attention when making a simple drink.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            2. From the people who never learn files.... now Amy calls Ramsay a "ginger-headed troll"

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/471481...

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              1. re: Firegoat

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                In regards to the last part of the article I have to wonder why Samy is still in our country.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                1. re: Firegoat

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  http://radaronline.com/exclusives/201...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  She is again claiming she makes the cakes: " .. they can see I make my cakes and they can all shut the F&*^%$@! Up!!”

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  There's a rather mystifying reference to Yelpers as the "Camel Toe Mafia" -- a term I see that she was using as far back as October last year: https://www.facebook.com/amysbakingco...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: drongo

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Amy is repugnant. There are almost no words for such a waste of carbon.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      1. re: monavano

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        She seems like a very tortured, mentally disturbed woman. I feel very sorry for her, and really dislike seeing her publicly crucified like this even though she set herself up for it. I hope she gets the help she needs, and wish her all the best.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: JonParker

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Truly, it must be hell going through life being so defensive and on the attack all time. That said, I just don't have it in my heart to feel any sympathy for a woman who wouldn't spit on her mother if she was on fire.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I wonder if she'll stand by her man once he (hopefully) gets deported.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Anyway, this seems to be fizzling out quickly. There was no come back, no redeeming ending to this sordid tale and fingers crossed, no Amy and Samy reality show.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          They are just all together unremarkable people.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          1. re: JonParker

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Jon, I respect you for having compassion for her. You're a better man than I. I can't manage to muster up any in light of her cruel treatment of customers and staff, not to mention her felony conviction for ID theft.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I expect she'll stand by her man/ATM if he's deported.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            1. re: Leonardo

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I don't want to get into a lot of detail here, but there are mental illnesses that manifest themselves in much the way she was shown -- verbally abusive, paranoid, and feeling everyone is conspiring against you. People like that are difficult to have sympathy for, but it doesn't make them any less deserving of compassion than someone with leukemia.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I think she's a very lonely, tortured woman, and I don't think she experiences much in the way of happiness.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I've actually seen this sort of thing a few times on KN. There have been a couple of episodes where it was obvious to me that the owners were suffering from severe depression, and that a lot of their lack of attention to their business was due to their inability to find interest in anything. They didn't need Ramsey -- they needed a competent psychiatrist. Amy is a bit extreme, and her illness manifests itself in some really antisocial behavior, but she needs treatment, not a beatdown from the internet.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              1. re: JonParker

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I think you're probably right about some mental illness going on... but I personally can't make myself feel too sorry for someone who bagged a "gangsta" in Vegas to pour $1 million into her pet hobby just so she can treat employees and customers horribly. According to one of the Reddit interviews from the waitresses who were on the episode Samy was even worse and more abusive than Amy.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Sell the thing, drive off in your LandRover and have the hubby buy you a big gourmet kitchen to cook for your friends (or cats) while he gets deported.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                1. re: Firegoat

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I work in IT at a hospital that has an inpatient behavioral health unit. I go there often to fix their computers, printers, and so forth. I've seen a huge variation in the behaviors of the inpatients, and while they're inpatients they're extremely appropriately medicated for their diagnoses, but there are usually a few that refuse medication and act out because they refuse medication, it's the manifestation of their diseases. To the outside world, it makes them look either scary or a pain in the ass to be around, the latter is far more common.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Money is a cushion for people like this couple. Money buys a lot of freedom, but it doesn't mean you aren't crazy, Look at Lindsey Lohan in general and Britney Spears' psychotic break. and they're both unbalanced individuals with varying family support. Britney has some, Lindsey has none.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  But I digress- that couple is so crazy it's only a matter of time before they end up with a class-action suit against them for assault. I think the only reason they haven't been put into an inpatient behavioral health facility because they're SO obviously antisocial, and in a public place. Apparently they're obsessive cleaners, which will give them a pass from a health dept point of view. But somebody's going to get killed one day, or they'll both be committed, one or the other. They're so violent.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                2. re: JonParker

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Like Dr. Phil says, you can't change what you don't acknowledge.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: JonParker

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Delusional, paranoia, explosions, compulsive lying, constant fighting could point to any number of things including but not limited to: Psychotic Disorder NOS, Paranoid Personality Disorder, Borderline Personality Disorder, Narcissistic Personality Disorder, Histrionic Personality Disorder (the most likely diagnosis given her total lack of apparent insight) or some combination thereof.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Agree that some of the KN players are depressed as evidenced by Gordon often saying "You don't care anymore." What most of the restaurants need is a couples/family therapist more than they need Gordon. Some seriously messed-up family systems are portrayed.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: Leonardo

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      that has struck me every time I've sat down and tried to watch an episode (I've never succeeded) -- that the restaurant is but an insignificant symptom of the underlying problems that exist in most of the families that run these restaurants.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      It's never about what it's about.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      1. re: sunshine842

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        You nailed it sunshine. Most of the owners on the show would have the exact same issues no matter if they ran a restaurant or a car dealership or a shoe store. The problems have little to do with the specific business but more to do with their own personal defects/issues.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      2. re: Leonardo

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Ah, why bother with a couples/family therapist when all it usually takes is a stern reprimand from GR to "Stop fighting!. Please"?
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        And all is well.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: Leonardo

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I was thinking BPD, but you're right. It could be any or a combo. My real point was that public internet shaming will likely exacerbate her sense of being persecuted, worsening her illness. I know she set this up, but mentally ill people quite frequently make bad decisions. I would bet that she'd probably rip my head off for insinuating that she needed help.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I know she's acted horribly, but I can't find it within myself to condemn her for it. I seem to be in the minority though.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          1. re: JonParker

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I'm still curious as to just who and or what is the 'Camel Mafia'.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            1. re: Withnail42

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I believe it is the Camel TOE Mafia ... quite a different group

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              1. re: C. Hamster

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                A quick search for camel toe on google images will clear up any remaining confusion.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              2. re: Withnail42

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                A vulgar reference to her female detractors.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                1. re: monavano

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Amusingly they used it on Yelp when responding to someone who gave them a poor review (well before the KN TV show) ... and the person they were responding to was a male.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: monavano

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Odd reference considering Sammy of mid-East decent, is according to his own words and possibly the French and German Authorities as well as the INS is a 'gangster'.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: monavano

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I think the term "Camel Toe Mafia" is tied to their categorization of critics as "Pussies" -- see https://www.facebook.com/amysbakingco...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      1. re: drongo

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        What adds to the quote is the 'Hello Kitty' icon.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  2. re: JonParker

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I agree with you (after going through this thread to make sure I was not going to contradict anything I had previously posted.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Both of them have the persecution syndrome. Ramsay made it much worse. They brought him in for validation and it backfired.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: John E.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I don't think it entered into Amy or Samy's pea brains that this could backfire-- they could be-- gasp, wrong! Which is why Amy dove head first into her "yelp bullies" tirade as soon as Gordon choked down his not-homemade dessert.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      After Amy took credit for baking it, several times, of course.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      1. re: monavano

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Have you read an account anywhere that provides specifics on where the desserts come from?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I think most of the interest in this story is based on schadenfreude and I am just as guilty as everyone else.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: John E.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          >>>Have you read an account anywhere that provides specifics on where the desserts come from?<<<

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          http://www.wilmunder.com/ABC/Food_Pho...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          1. re: Fowler

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I saw that. That page is about photos on her website, not about the desserts sold at her restaurant. I'm not attempting to defend her, I'm just interested in who really IS making the desserts.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            1. re: John E.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              It's hard to speak in absolute terms when it comes to Amy, since she appears to be a pathological liar.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          2. re: John E.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            What I believe is that Amy and Samy retaliated online right after their show aired, and Amy admitted to reselling the baked goods, alluding to Walmart doing the same with their electronics etc.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Of course, Amy then claimed that none of the online retorts and ugliness came from her camp and that all of their social network accounts were hacked.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            And Elvis is gonna sing just one more song...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            1. re: monavano

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Yep.. I saw Elvis in a ski shop last December when I was on vacation in Aspen. He lives... and will be singing again soon.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              (You might be thinking that I was hallucinating.... but in the same store I also saw Reggie Jackson, and I know for sure that he's still alive.)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              1. re: monavano

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                When Amanda referred to reselling, I am pretty sure she meant the ravioli.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                1. re: John E.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  From watching the page I am pretty sure she didn't. They were specific about the baked goods and having to repackage them.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  1. re: Firegoat

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    What do you mean by 'watching the page'?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: John E.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Not Firegoat but I suspect he's referring to their Facebook page.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  2. re: John E.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Up-thread you'll find a link to a site that has preserved posts that Amy and Samy have subsequently deleted from their Facebook page. Such posts included:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    “WE DO NOT NEED THIS. YOU STUPID PEOPLE. AMERICA IS ABOUT RESSLING, IT IS NOT A BIG DEAL,” a reply someone pointing out that Amy’s Baking Company re-sells cakes by other bakeries.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    and:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    “THE CAKES WE OFFER ARE EXPENSIVE BECAUSE WE HAVE TO REPACKAGE AND SHIP. DO NOT BLAME US BECAUSE YOU CAN NOT AFFORD QUALITY. THE YELPERS, AND NOW THE REDDITS, NEED TO BACK OFF. YOURE NOT RIGHT JUST BECAUSE OF SOME TV SHOW."

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Cakes were also being sold online which is where ABC had posted all the photos. Presumably they were purchasing them from the bakeries and establishments they had copied the photos from. I note they have now shut down the Online Ordering section of their site and all the photos are gone.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    There's been lots of coverage on the issue of them re-packaging and re-selling other folk's cakes. A quick Google will unearth them if you are interested in reading about it beyond what was already posted as it unfolded much earlier in this thread..

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    1. re: Breadcrumbs

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      My interest and question remains: who made the desserts?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      1. re: John E.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        John as I said above:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        <<Presumably they were purchasing them from the bakeries and establishments they had copied the photos from.>>

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Otherwise, I have no idea. Have you tried asking them?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        1. re: Breadcrumbs

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          <Have you tried asking them?>

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Why didn't I think of that?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          1. re: Breadcrumbs

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I was under the impression that the photos were from bakeries all over the country. Certainly they didn't fly the baked goods in, did they?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            1. re: C. Hamster

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I don't know C.H. Based on what I've seen and read thus far, I'd say anything is possible with these two.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              If they had legitimately outsourced the baking it's unlikely there would be any need for the re-packaging that Amy mentions. Why not just provide your own packaging to your baker then all you need to do is ship.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              That said, I can't imagine how much online business they would have done since the place didn't seem to be particularly well known prior to KN.