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Philly Ray May 7, 2013 07:19 AM

According to this list...

http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/06/travel/...

My favorite line, "and Memphis Taproom, which enjoys a sterling reputation despite an endorsement by Guy Fieri.".

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    DirtyJerzey May 9, 2013 09:16 AM

    As all lists are, this one is up for debate. I'd put Philly #4 ahead of Boston and Denver. Boston has that mystique of an Irish drinking city but that doesn't mean what they are drinking is good. I'll take a Victory, Yards, and Troegs over Sam Adams and Harpoon any day of the week.

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      cwdonald May 9, 2013 09:44 AM

      I think you are missing some pretty amazing brews coming out of Boston area... Pretty Things, Cambridge, Berkshire and Notch come to mind, which excludes anything out of NH and Maine... and for Philadelphia you have to mention Tired Hands, Neshaminy Creek, and Forest and Maine in addition to those three (and to call Troegs a Philadelphia beer is pushing it a bit... ).

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        DirtyJerzey May 9, 2013 01:02 PM

        I knew I was pushing it with Troegs, but Tired Hands and Neshaminy Creek just staple down my argument. If they did throw in Maine Beer Co and The Alchemist (VT), Philly would be forced to tap out. But for now Philly is #4 in my eyes.

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          caganer May 9, 2013 05:42 PM

          As far as I'm concerned, the fact that in Boston one has to search (really search) for a bar with more to offer than mediocre harpoon & sam adam's while in Philly one can stumble into most bars within 2 miles of city call and find a good and thoughtful selection of beers puts us head and shoulders ahead of Boston.

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            barryg May 9, 2013 06:55 PM

            Sam Adams Boston Lager is Terrible. Yuengling lager is nothing great either,but doesn't pretend to be a craft brew. Philadelphians recognize that about both beers. As long as bostonians think sam adams is good beer, they will not be a great beer town. At least the bars that are mailing it in here have dog fish head 60 minute on tap.

            However it's true here that local production is a behind consumption patterns. We don't have many world class breweries. But There are many great beers you can get in Philly but not in NYC or Boston which speaks to the sophistication of the market.

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              Edwardrae May 10, 2013 06:21 AM

              In world wide competition Boston Lager has won acclaim and award. Thus not only Bostonians think Sam Adams is great beer. Personal taste obviously varies greatly evidenced by some quite subjective comments here. While one can certainly argue the ranking of beer towns; the rankings do also represent a more complete sampling than would most individual opinions. All encompassing proclamations of what "Philadelphians recognize" and what "Bostonians think" and the availability of beers in Philadelphia making it a more sophisticated market than New York seem pure conjecture with no basis in substantiated fact and thus mildly absurd.

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                barryg May 10, 2013 06:23 AM

                Only mildly? :) But yes Boston Lager sucks, barely any bars in Philly carry it and there is a reason. I admit that the seasonal and special brews are not bad.

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                Chemicalkinetics May 10, 2013 06:27 AM

                < As long as bostonians think sam adams is good beer, they will not be a great beer town.>

                Ha ha ha. Like people from St. Louis loves Budweiser?

      2. Chemicalkinetics May 9, 2013 06:56 PM

        Awesome. It is nice to know we have good beer here.

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          cwdonald May 10, 2013 05:51 AM

          What is interesting is that unlike a lot of the other places on the list, Philadelphia was on the list for their big beer event, Philadelphia Beer Week rather than their breweries. If you look at states like Virginia and North Carolina, the nano brewing trend has spread like wildfire, whereas you have not seen that same trend in the greater Philadelphia area (though we now have an outer rim of craft breweries, from Prism, Round Guys, Free Will, Tired Hands, Forest and Main, Neshaminy Creek, Doylestown not to mention the plethora of Iron Hills, and one off chains like Rock Bottom and Triumph. ) We really appear to be recognized for our beer culture, rather than simply breweries.

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            Chemicalkinetics May 10, 2013 06:16 AM

            < Philadelphia was on the list for their big beer event, Philadelphia Beer Week rather than their breweries.>

            Insightful. Would it be correct to say that we are recognized as buyers, not makers?

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              cwdonald May 10, 2013 06:50 AM

              Well, I think if you include the restaurants, bars and gastropubs that all serve and cook with good beer it really is culture. We sell good beer, and we like good beer. We have purveyors like Tom Peters who have driven the culture in the area to the point that Philadelphia is a place where people want to launch new beer.

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