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Samalicious May 1, 2013 08:42 AM

Ground Turkey Study Finds More Than Half Of Samples Contaminated With Fecal Bacteria. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04...

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    sedimental May 3, 2013 10:41 AM

    I avoid all ground meats from chain stores. Actually, I avoid all meats at chain stores :) Investing in a good meat grinder is the way to go.

    Grinding your own chicken is easy, but grinding turkey is much more difficult. I have an extra whole turkey in the freezer I might try to grind up.

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      EM23 May 3, 2013 11:13 AM

      It's not just the ground meat. I had forwarded the HuffPo article to friends and one of them sent this link back to me:

      Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine - Fecal Contamination in Retail Chicken Products - http://www.pcrm.org/health/reports/fe...

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        sedimental May 3, 2013 11:21 AM

        Yup. As I posted below, I raise chickens...they crap a lot!

        Fecal matter washes off. The other things manufactures do to make the food "safe" causes more problems than just some surface "crap".

        Ground meat at the processing plant in particular is troublesome. At least if you grind you own, you can make sure the surface area is clean before you grind it all up and distribute bacteria throughout the meat.

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      INDIANRIVERFL May 2, 2013 11:38 AM

      Now some micro managing do gooder is going to remove all the fecal material and my turkey burgers are not going to taste the same. Going to have to adjust all the recipes.

      Had the same problem with dolphin free tuna.

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        Midknight May 3, 2013 06:56 AM

        Mmmmm, damn, I miss those tasty dolphins. lol

      2. Midknight May 2, 2013 06:07 AM

        Most raw meats contain traces of fecal matter. If someone is concerned about that, I suggest switching to vegetarianism. Or no since they using fertilizer on farms, so fruits and veggies will contain fecal matter, as well.

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          catroast May 2, 2013 06:19 AM

          really, what is the point in apologizing for or resigning oneself to, literally, a shitty product. if we were outraged, rather than complacent, maybe these companies would do something about their shady industrial practices.

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            kengk May 2, 2013 06:27 AM

            Have you ever killed and dressed a chicken or turkey? I have, shit happens. Pun intended.

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              sedimental May 3, 2013 10:55 AM

              There is a well known chicken processing plant where I work. I talk to the workers there. Many of them won't eat the product, some eat it after they wash it with soap (not kidding) And every one of them say they just try not to think about it.

              All say it is beyond disgusting and that there is no need for the processing problems there. The problems remain because of laziness, not caring, profits, etc it has nothing to do with the necessity of processing poultry.

              I think if more people would voice their opinion and vote with their feet, things might change. Having an ignorant attitude or complacency certainly won't change anything.

              Consumers changed the industry practice (think pink slime) of secrecy and labeling and allowing producers to decide what we eat for us.

              Maybe the next consumer revolt will be in poultry :)

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                kengk May 3, 2013 11:18 AM

                I can certainly believe that working at a poultry processing plant would turn you against eating it. When I kill a chicken I won't eat it that same day.

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                  sedimental May 3, 2013 11:26 AM

                  Yes, but they are not just talking about that. They tell about some really awful unnecessary things that frequently happen.

                  Things you would never do with your own meat killed and processed at home. Some of those things are about industrial profits and some are about workers (underpaid and "shit upon")taking out their apathy or revenge on the job.

                  I guess my point is...the whole industry is broken from the standpoint of safe, clean food that promotes heathy people and animals. It works for shareholders and folks that don't know much or care much about the quality of their food.

            2. re: catroast
              Midknight May 2, 2013 07:57 AM

              My point was that there are traces of fecal matter everywhere. Fecal matter is primarily decaying food and bacteria. There's some on your toothbrush (which does NOT come from toilet water droplets), it's all in your sink and drains, and your mouth is swimming in it.
              Unless it's a culture that is running rampant, finding TRACES of it, especially in uncooked meat, won't even make you sick.

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                sedimental May 3, 2013 11:04 AM

                This is true.
                I have chickens. When they have crap on their eggs, I know it is time to change the laying box. When there is crap on their feathers, I know it is time to clean the coop, when one has too much crap, it is time to find out what is wrong with her, etc.

                You don't just get out the antibiotics and bleach.

                Informed consumers get mad at the quick fix for the business at the expense of safe, clean food for the people they are selling it to.

                Shit happens, but but it doesn't mean you need to eat it.

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                GH1618 May 2, 2013 09:44 AM

                There are pathogens everywhere. E. coli and enterococci are found in surface water, not merely in animal-based agriculture. We rely on the USDA/FSIS to monitor poultry production to ensure that pathogens are controlled, but a sterile product is impossible. Ultimately, cooking poultry according to FSIS recommendations ensures sacety.

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                GH1618 May 2, 2013 09:45 AM

                In fact, half of food poisoning incidents come from vegetable products:

                http://news.yahoo.com/study-says-leaf...

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                GH1618 May 1, 2013 08:55 AM

                It is not news that poultry can contain pathogens, although the Consumer Reports study provides some details. This is why we should follow the FSIS protocol for safe handling of poultry products.

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