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SimonSaysWoof Apr 25, 2013 09:42 AM

Recently bought McCormick peppercorn medley. This is the one in the glass jar with the built in grinder. Used it the other night and wasn't very happy with the flavor and decided to just use my regular grinder which was full of straight black peppercorns. Today I just happened to look at the ingredient list on the McCormick bottle. In order, it read:
Black peppercorns
Coriander
White peppercorns
Allspice
Green peppercorns
What the heck is going on? When the bottle reads PEPPERCORN MEDLEY I expect it to be a medley/mix of peppercorns only. No wonder i was not happy with the taste. Glad i noticed it before i ruined a dish. What do you think?

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    wyogal RE: SimonSaysWoof Apr 25, 2013 09:43 AM

    Was it a glass bottle?

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      SimonSaysWoof RE: wyogal Apr 25, 2013 10:06 AM

      In the glass jar, with the built in grinder.

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      youareabunny RE: SimonSaysWoof Apr 25, 2013 10:05 AM

      I googled the product and it is extremely misleading.

      Last time I was misled by a product I emailed the company and they sent me a check for my money back. In this case I had purchased "chocolate covered cherries" which is my favorite candy EVER, but when I bit into it it had a thick layer of confectionary coating which was not at all mentioned on the package, just in the ingredient list. So I picked the coating off every single one, enjoyed my cherries, and got a check for 4.50

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        mpjmph RE: youareabunny Apr 29, 2013 07:32 AM

        That sounds more like you got a box of unripe chocolate covered cherries. Chocolate covered cherries are made by wrapping cherries in fondant, then covering in chocolate. Over time, the fondant turns to cherry flavored liquid. If you eat them before they ripen, you get a mouthful of fondant.

      2. C. Hamster RE: SimonSaysWoof Apr 25, 2013 10:17 AM

        coriander and allspice don't really look like peppercorns ...

        the container was clear glass?

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          SimonSaysWoof RE: C. Hamster Apr 25, 2013 10:34 AM

          Yes it was clear glass. The label on the front did not state anything but " peppercorn medley grinder" it was not obvious that it was anything but a mix of various peppercorns.

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          wyogal RE: SimonSaysWoof Apr 25, 2013 10:22 AM

          I just found out that allspice is also called Jamaican pepper. Not sure about coriander.

          1. C. Hamster RE: SimonSaysWoof Apr 25, 2013 11:06 AM

            Allspice berries are much larger than peppercorns; coriander generally smaller.

            But I agree that they would ruin a pepper blend (even though I like them). I also agree that "peper medley" is misleading

            1. JMF RE: SimonSaysWoof Apr 25, 2013 10:09 PM

              the term medley means a jumbled assortment/mixture...
              http://dictionary.reference.com/brows...

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                sandylc RE: JMF Apr 25, 2013 11:21 PM

                As in an assortment of different types of peppercorns.

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                  small h RE: sandylc Apr 26, 2013 07:51 AM

                  I would have come to the same conclusion as the OP - that various kinds of peppercorns, and only peppercorns, were in that jar. But there is precedent for medley-confusion:

                  http://www.knorr.com/product/detail/2...

                  Peas and carrots and pasta and sauce all fall into the "not rice" category. And yet there they are, in a rice medley.

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                    JMF RE: sandylc Apr 26, 2013 08:30 PM

                    Wrong, the key word in the definition of medley is heterogeneous. Definition: different in kind; unlike; incongruous.

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                      sandylc RE: JMF Apr 26, 2013 08:35 PM

                      As in DIFFERENT KINDS OF PEPPERCORNS.

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                        GH1618 RE: sandylc Apr 26, 2013 08:41 PM

                        But it does have different kinds of peppercorns.

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                          sandylc RE: GH1618 Apr 26, 2013 08:57 PM

                          Yes.

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                        Midlife RE: JMF May 6, 2013 04:12 PM

                        So it seems as if the use of the word 'medley' alongside the single noun 'peppercorns' is, by definition, incorrect usage....... unless the word "peppercorns" includes things beyond what we commonly think of as..... well.... peppercorns. ;o] The Wikipedia entry for "Peppercorn" says "Several plants in the United States are used also as pepper substitutes, such as Lepidium campestre, Lepidium virginicum, shepherd's purse, horseradish,and field Pennycress.".... so perhaps there's some leeway.

                  2. Chemicalkinetics RE: SimonSaysWoof Apr 25, 2013 10:13 PM

                    I guess McCormick defines "medley" different than you. You were probably thinking about a mixture of different peppercorns, whereas they were thinking about a mixture along with peppercorn (as the main ingredient)

                    I think it is a matter of miscommunication. I don't think anyone is particularly wrong.

                    1. Kris in Beijing RE: SimonSaysWoof Apr 26, 2013 05:20 PM

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                      1. chefj RE: SimonSaysWoof Apr 26, 2013 06:29 PM

                        Read the label

                        1. Kris in Beijing RE: SimonSaysWoof Apr 26, 2013 06:39 PM

                          You can do a customer review on the Medley here:

                          http://bit.ly/Y34LJ0

                          [I don't know if you have to register].

                          or

                          Write them!!
                          http://bit.ly/183NjW5

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                            GH1618 RE: SimonSaysWoof Apr 26, 2013 08:39 PM

                            It isn't misleading, because the ingredients are listed. There are other products like that. I have a jar of "Roasted Bell Peppers" that has garlic in it, for example.

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                              GH1618 RE: SimonSaysWoof Apr 26, 2013 09:02 PM

                              By the way, "Peppercorns Royale" from The Spice House contains Reunion pink peppercorns, which are not the same family as black pepper.

                              1. drongo RE: SimonSaysWoof Apr 28, 2013 09:51 AM

                                McCormick also has a product called "Peppercorn Mélange". I looked at the ingredients for that one, and it lists only black, white, pink, and green peppercorns. Those are not all real peppercorns (i.e. not all dried fruits of genus Piper) but all at least look peppercorn-like.

                                So McCormick is using mélange ("a mixture often of incongruous elements") differently from medley ("a diverse assortment or mixture"). Quoted definitions from: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictio...

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                                  VenusCafe RE: SimonSaysWoof Apr 28, 2013 10:06 AM

                                  READ read read;try TJ's rainbow peppers in a grinder

                                  1. Atomic76 RE: SimonSaysWoof Apr 28, 2013 10:07 AM

                                    Not sure if you noticed, but it's the same thing with Chili Powder. It's not straight powdered chili's, it's blended with garlic, salt and other stuff too.

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                                      hannaone RE: Atomic76 Apr 28, 2013 12:48 PM

                                      That's why when I want chili powder I buy Korean or Mexican branded. The ingredient list is "ground dried chile peppers".

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                                        Rasam RE: Atomic76 Apr 28, 2013 03:26 PM

                                        That is because "chili powder" in the US is the spice mix used to make the dish "chili". Elsewhere in the world, "chili powder" refers to powdered chilis (spelt chiles in the US). This causes endless confusion for people making, e.g., Indian recipes that call for red chili powder (just powdered red chillies) as an ingredient.

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                                          eepi RE: Atomic76 Apr 28, 2013 03:37 PM

                                          I only realized this fact about American "Chili Powder" about a month ago. Chili pepper, "spices," salt, silicon dioxide, and garlic ... - not sure whether that's a "mélange" or a "medley." It is McCormick.

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                                            drongo RE: eepi Apr 28, 2013 04:01 PM

                                            Amongst the McCormick products sold in the U.S., the "Chili" products include cumin, oregano & garlic... whereas their "Chile" products contain only chile peppers (and silicon dioxide, an inert ingredient included to better ensure a free-flowing powder).

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                                            C. Hamster RE: Atomic76 Apr 29, 2013 06:28 AM

                                            Chili = the dish

                                            Chile = the pepper

                                          3. iL Divo RE: SimonSaysWoof May 5, 2013 02:19 PM

                                            if you hate it take it back and exchange for something suitable.

                                            1. jrvedivici RE: SimonSaysWoof May 6, 2013 04:52 PM

                                              After reading this thread I took it upon myself to contact the people at McCormick to see if I could help correct this so nobody is mislead in the future.

                                              Keep an eye out for Peppercorn Ménage A' Trois! Nothing spells out "just three" better than that in my opinion!

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