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  1. Expanding into Paramus. Now that's going out on a limb.

    Also saw that Costco is looking at Teterboro.

    http://www.northjersey.com/news/busin...

    1. Any update on this?
      I wonder where on Route 17 N it will be at. I personally love their frozen custard more than their burgers and fries.

      22 Replies
      1. re: Monica

        Now I'm wondering about the Bistro 55 site...but that's technically not Paramus.

        1. re: Curlz

          According to some news sources, it will be on route 17 N.
          we will see when it opens...though with the long lines, i doubt I will check them out any time soon.

          1. re: Monica

            Thanks. If it's 17 North -- that shoots down the "Hooters" possibility.

            What else is there on 17 North that could be a take-over target?

            1. re: ELA

              Did the Paramus Hooters close?

              1. re: ebchower

                I don't know. I just remember reading, and from all the talk here and on another BB, that SS was "taking over" an existing place. One person on another BB mentioned the Hooters possibility, which is why I mentioned it here.

                I pass by everyday, so later I'll check and see if it's still open.

                1. re: ELA

                  I no longer see Paramus or Hackensack listed on their website. It's the same franchisee. It's common to see a lot of Hooters close at the same time when they have a fallout with a franchisee. That happened on Long Island recently.

                  update: They are both still there if you search by state.

              2. re: ELA

                Hooters was on the southbound side.

                1. re: double0

                  Yes, which is what I pointed out in my original post. That location is not ideal anyway.

              3. re: Monica

                Coming to...Stack's location...Route 17 South...Paramus...

                Anyone?

                1. re: ELA

                  well that was a short life for Stack's if this is true. never went but didn't hear anything great about it...

                  1. re: ELA

                    Announced earlier today....going in the former Stack's location.

                    1. re: fourunder

                      Nice..looks like they are going to open this Fall..I wonder if this will cause extra traffic on saturdays.

                      1. re: Monica

                        When Sonic opened on Route 17 in Hasbrouck Heights a few years ago, it caused all kinds of traffic problems and required full time police patrol.

                        1. re: ebchower

                          I remember that...and I wondered why, LOL. Grand opening and all.

                          I don't know about extra traffic -- I mean, how much extra can there be on a Saturday in Paramus (the shopping mall capital of NJ, LOL). Rt. 17 can be a nightmare on Saturdays. That's the nature of the beast. Between 4, 17, 46, 80, etc. -- there is going to be traffic. Period. LOL.

                          Those "pod" like locations that are situated close-up to Rt. 17 (and the shoulder) are often rough locations -- difficult to see, turn into (at the last minute), visibility, etc. I think the SS is a great place run by a top notch professional organization -- who knows what they are doing and how to run a restaurant -- and I for one hope they are super-successful as I'd like to see another location (perhaps a higher-end, larger, etc. one that serves alcohol)...but this specific location can be a tough one. They have every chance to succeed.

                          1. re: ELA

                            This specific location for Shake Shack was formerly the Paramus Diner, then it was a Pizza Hut for a very long time, that was the top location for sales nationally.

                          2. re: ebchower

                            Sonic? I don't even know what that is...but if that caused a big traffic, Shake and Shack will definitely cause a major traffic...I will have to remember not to go shopping for the first few weeks after they open...too bad because Trader's joe is on the way. darn it!

                            1. re: Monica

                              heaven knows we definitely need another new burger joint in the area..... its not like we already have:

                              steaknshake
                              bucu
                              bobby flays
                              5 guys (2)
                              smashburger (2)
                              boom burger
                              zinburger

                              and im sure im missing a bunch of other ones too. For now I'm sticking with my fav white manna, however I recently tried Steve's Burgers on 46 in Garfield and it was outstanding. I never got to the Shake Shack at Madison Square Park near my office, lines are just too crazy.

                              1. re: yogi70

                                The squirrels in Madison Square park are quite socialized. They approach the Shake Shack tables and beg for food. I threw one a fry and he took it on his way.

                                1. re: yogi70

                                  The key is to run over there when it starts raining! Last time I was in the city and that happened, the line disappeared and I was able to walk right up, order, and get out!

                                  Shake Shake in Paramus will be a SUNDAY trip for me, just like Trader Joe's was until they opened in a few other NJ locations.

                                  1. re: yogi70

                                    I haven't tried any of those burger places mainly because I find most of the restaurants in NJ waste of money and time...but I have tried white manna many times and I too love the place. Between my husband and I, we eat 7...4 for him and 3 for me.
                                    I have never waited more than 10 min for food but I did get to try Shack shack a few times near the museum of natural history. The line wasn't that bad...and their frozen custard is to die for.

                                    1. re: yogi70

                                      The "chain" places to me are different than the White Manna's, Steve's, etc.---and I don't view them as simple chains per se. For me, I want a quick bite, want a burger, I am at the office and want lunch (burger), then I have no problem going to Bobby Flay's. I like the place and I think the burger is very good. Both Bobby Flay's and BuCu are within 5 minutes of my office.

                                      I went to the new ZinBurger in Paramus and I did not like it anywhere near as much as the one in Clifton.

                                      That said, if I want more of a "night out" and I want a drink, I have no problem driving to Clifton to ZinBurger. I like the place very much and every single time I've' been there I've enjoyed it. I used to say the same for Davey's although that's strictly a pub/bar type place. Same goes for the Porter House. I've been to both for lunch and dinner. I am sorry to say I think Davey's has slipped a bit from years ago, but maybe it's me.

                                      PS...I was responding to Yogi's post above.

                                      1. re: ELA

                                        Have not been to Zin yet... looks like I may head over to Clifton instead of the mall when I do get the chance to go.

                    2. went to shake shack over the weekend....ordered 2 burgers, 2 fries, one milk shake, one lemonade and 2 custards for $40. Burgers were good which I knew from my several visits to Shake shack in Manhattan but the new french fries they had were horrible. They are supposely fresh fried but they were overcooked, hard, dry and too crunch and i hate those thin fries so maybe it's me. The dispointing part of the meal was the custard. I remember being really really tasty but maybe my taste bud has changed since then? The one I had here were too gummy and sweet and didn't have that nice creamy milky flavor i remember.
                      I thought it was totally not worth $40 I spent on 2 burger meals. i am going to stick with Manna burgers.

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                      1. re: Monica

                        "New" fries? Have they changed their fries since they opened?

                        One of the big news items for the Paramus location was the fact they were using the hand-cut fries -- a big thing for Shake Shack regulars, LOL. Some of the locations use the frozen "crinkle-cut" type fries, but SS came out with a russet, skin-on, hand-cut, debuting in their UES location, and the initial plan was to have them in all their new locations.

                        These fries were to be prepared the "double-fried" way, which is something like -- hand-cut, soaked to pull out extra starch, and then double fried, in soybean oil I believe (one time at a lower temperature, and the second time at a higher temperature).

                        1. re: ELA

                          I am used to their crinkle cut types. yes...not that I was a big fan of their crinkle type but I didn't like this double fried fries even more.

                          1. re: Monica

                            System wide they are moving from frozen to hand cut fries (not sure if they are twice fried or not.)

                            They are in the process of making this change in Philadelphia and I believe they have made it at some if not all S S outlets in NYC.

                        2. re: Monica

                          Did you consider asking for a new batch of fries?

                          1. re: fourunder

                            I looked at other people's fries and they all looked the same so i assumed that was the way they cook it now.

                            1. re: Monica

                              You should really email them w your feedback on the fries...Danny Meyer and his staff take this stuffs seriously!

                              1. re: Curlz

                                You are right, they do...not that they react/change to every suggestion/feedback they get, but they do listen.

                                1. re: Curlz

                                  That might be part of the problem. The reason they switched from crinkle cut to fresh was public demand. So they invested a lot of time and money in getting the right potatoes and the right technique to do fresh. It's worked in NY and DC but it sounds like some of the other shops don't have it nailed yet. Problem is, there's a lot about frying that's technique that can't be learned in three hour training session, which is the reason fastfood places switched to frozen to begin with: consistency. Unfortunately, customers don't see this. They just see crinkle cut fries and think they suck and demand fresh fries because they're supposed to be better because they read it somewhere.

                                  whenever I see an eatery boasting about their fresh, handcut fries, nine out of ten times, they're fried once at low temperature and are some combination of burnt on the outside, soggy on the inside. Whenever I get five wings & frozen crinkle cuts at the bulletproof Chinese carryout, they fries are consistently hot, firm, crispy.

                                  1. re: monkeyrotica

                                    Frying is hard..I learned it the hard way by frying some batch of chicken following the highly rated recipe marinating with buttermilk and all...at the end, I learned that it's best to leave the frying to the professionals like Popeyes. After all the mess, my fried chicken was burnt outside and raw inside and I consider myself a decent cook. I had to bake my fried chicken at the end to salvage it.
                                    French fries is one of those things that can be found everywhere but it's so darn hard to find a good one. It also seems like the ones that advertise that make french fries from scratch are the ones that seem to have the quality control issues...
                                    I won't name which restaurant but one of the top restaurants in NYC used to sell the exact same fries as McDonald but everyone raved about their fries.

                                    Anyway, I got Shake shack out of my system so I won't be visiting the Paramus location for awhile.

                                    1. re: Monica

                                      Monica, have you tried Blue Star Burgers in Tenafly yet? I have heard very good things, but have not gotten over to try them as of yet.
                                      I try to patronize the "mom n pop" burger joints as much as possible. These guys are on my list to stop and grab some grub asap.

                                      1. re: yogi70

                                        I live in Tenafly and yes , my husband has tried the burgers from blue star. He said they were surprisingly good but for burger , I think shake shack is better. I should give blue star another try.

                                2. re: Monica

                                  I'm generally not to fussy about any food item...I take them as served....however, I always request well done fries and if they come out not hot, undercooked or cold, I always ask for new fries.

                                  1. re: fourunder

                                    they were well done, alright to the point it was dry and hard but like i said, maybe some people like it this way?
                                    It was very hot though.

                                    1. re: Monica

                                      Let me clarify, I order them well done to my liking....if they come out otherwise, I ask for a different batch. I'm suggesting if they were not to your liking, ask for a different batch.

                                      1. re: fourunder

                                        i didn't order to my liking and i thought the crunchy fries are their new thing. I am not going to stay on line again so i can get another batch of french fries.

                                  2. re: Monica

                                    I've been to SS/Paramus several times -- all for lunch -- and, for my likes/dislikes/etc., the fries have been good; just what I expected. I liked them. They weren't cold and were certainly not overcooked...but, as you pointed out, that's just me.

                                    When fries get overcooked, yes, they are "hard" and virtually inedible. I remember reading something that their twice friend method -- the soaking, then first at a lower temp., then the second time at a higher one -- is supposed to get a really good fry, and prevent overcooking. Great idea, but "overcooking" is simple -- regardless of how you are doing it. So, I am sure it's a simple mistake and overcooking is very possible. Maybe it's a "turn you back, get distracted for a minute, etc." -- but I don't know. Higher temp., second time, maybe it's an easy margin for error.

                                    I agree however, everyone's tastes, likes, dislikes, etc. are different.

                                    1. re: ELA

                                      I was there on the weekend...the fries were hot but too crunchy and hard with lots of burnt spots so maybe they have a different or new cook on the weekends.
                                      If I do go back, I think I am just going to get burgers and that's it.

                                      1. re: ELA

                                        Yes, everyone's likes are different. My wife likes mushy, soggy fries. I like crispy ones. If we both get fries, we trade with each other. :)