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HAIL FSM!~ Din Tai Fung to open @ Americana

ns1 Apr 24, 2013 11:10 AM

wowowow, no longer having to drive to SGV would be AWESOME....as long as the Americana markup isn't ridiculous.

"Din Tai Fung at Americana, which Caruso declared, "one of the greatest Chinese restaurants in the world," will serve a cadre of noodles, pot stickers, fried rice, soups, and truffle dumplings. At this point, the famous xiao long bao, or mini soup-dumplings, will only be available on the weekends. Debut date for DTF is as early as September 15,"


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    kevin Apr 24, 2013 11:15 AM

    It will probably be about 19 or 20 bucks for an order of dumplings. But hey, it may save some gas for some.

    But from West LA to Glendale or Arcadia ain't much idfferent.

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      kevin Apr 24, 2013 11:16 AM

      What's FSM ?

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      1. re: kevin
        ns1 Apr 24, 2013 11:17 AM

        flying spaghetti monster (see: wikipedia)

        1. re: ns1
          J.L. Apr 24, 2013 12:00 PM

          On the Chowboard, Flying Orrechiette Monster.

          1. re: J.L.
            PeterCC Apr 24, 2013 12:03 PM

            Flying Agnolotti Monster?

          2. re: ns1
            PeterCC Apr 24, 2013 12:02 PM

            The very very appropriate diety for a foodie*. :-)

            *Disclaimer: "foodie" used non-pejoratively. Use of "foodie" may cause wet mouth, weight gain, and unusual food cravings.

            1. re: PeterCC
              J.L. Apr 24, 2013 05:33 PM

              Don't make me quote from the Chowhound manifesto...

              Diety - Hilarious! I like how you misspelled 'deity' on purpose to propagate the irony.

        2. blimpbinge Apr 24, 2013 11:43 AM

          Yesss! Now maybe the lines at arcadia can die down a bit so I can go without ridiculous waits!

          Not understanding the weekend only xlb tho... That's kinda what ppl go for...

          1. Servorg Apr 24, 2013 12:09 PM

            Just good to see that DTF is going to "ROC" the Chinese food scene in the greater LA area a bit...(g).

            I predict that your "Debut date" will become the "Dispute Date" or perhaps the "Debate Date" as well...

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            1. re: Servorg
              PeterCC Apr 24, 2013 12:12 PM

              I'd rather DTF move into ROC's space (not to wish ill upon ROC, just much prefer DTF).

              1. re: PeterCC
                Servorg Apr 24, 2013 12:15 PM

                Well, with this move into the Americana space your wish may come true yet (not in the ROC space, but on the west side somewhere else).

                1. re: Servorg
                  PeterCC Apr 24, 2013 12:22 PM

                  A stepping-stone...

                  1. re: PeterCC
                    kevin Apr 24, 2013 12:33 PM

                    Baby steps. Indeed.

            2. Tripeler Apr 24, 2013 08:21 PM

              So what would make Caruso so knowledgeable about Chinese restaurants?

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              1. re: Tripeler
                J.L. Apr 24, 2013 09:37 PM

                Caruso is actually Chowhound extraordinaire chandavkl !!! Not.

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                  wienermobile Apr 27, 2013 09:35 AM

                  Hey Mr. Caruso...How about one at the Grove?

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                granadafan Apr 24, 2013 08:38 PM

                Yes! It's on my way home from work.

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                1. re: granadafan
                  ipsedixit Apr 24, 2013 08:42 PM

                  Only open on weekends.

                  1. re: ipsedixit
                    granadafan Apr 24, 2013 08:55 PM

                    Well, that will teach me to read the whole post. haha

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                      Porthos Apr 25, 2013 06:06 AM

                      I think they meant the mini XLB were only available on weekends. Same as DTF Arcadia. The ones pictured in yelp photos 101, 156, 170.

                  2. Porthos Apr 25, 2013 05:52 AM

                    At this point, the famous xiao long bao, or mini soup-dumplings, will only be available on the weekends.
                    I wonder if he meant the xiao long TANG bao aka mini soup dumplings (per DTF nomenclature) will only be available on weekends. As opposed to the regular sized soup dumplings aka xiao long bao.

                    The mini soup dumplings (little XLB served with a side of soup, weird/silly, I know) is also only available weekends at DTF Arcadia and usually is very limited in supply.

                    Weird that they would open one there instead of SF or down here in OC but far be it from me to question their business model.

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                    1. re: Porthos
                      ipsedixit Apr 25, 2013 07:26 AM

                      Weird that they would open one there instead of SF or down here in OC but far be it from me to question their business model.

                      All hail FSM.

                      Do not anger the spirits.

                      1. re: ipsedixit
                        Johnny L Apr 27, 2013 02:26 AM

                        You got your wish, apparently South Coast Plaza is in the works.

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                          Porthos Apr 27, 2013 08:44 AM

                          Link please :)

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                            PeterCC Apr 27, 2013 09:29 AM


                            Bonus video of Tom Cruise at DTF mothership.

                            Edit: Original article: http://arcadiasbest.com/2013/04/din-t....

                            1. re: PeterCC
                              Porthos Apr 27, 2013 09:46 AM

                              Nice! Thanks for the link.

                              Didn't know it was as easy as asking ;-)

                              Get a SinBala down here and the OC is all set.

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                                JAB Apr 28, 2013 06:37 AM

                                Not so fast, is Sea Harbor confirmed? ;>)

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                                  Johnny L Apr 28, 2013 09:25 AM

                                  Don't get greedy now.

                                  1. re: JAB
                                    Porthos Apr 28, 2013 11:05 AM

                                    SinBala would be more useful since there is nothing like it in OC (specifically the braised pork with bamboo over rice and the pork belly with preserved vegetables) but Sam Woo has the Cantonese seafood part covered.

                                    Greedy would be asking for Shufeng Garden at the same time :-)

                                    1. re: Porthos
                                      blimpbinge Apr 28, 2013 11:43 AM

                                      "braised pork with bamboo over rice and the pork belly"

                                      It. Is. So. Simple. Yet. Good.

                                      1. re: blimpbinge
                                        Porthos Apr 28, 2013 11:47 AM

                                        Definitely top 3 for a last meal kind of request...probably easily #1 the more I think about it.

                                        Is that the RH branch? I think the bamboos at the RH branch are lighter in color vs the Arcadia one. I could easily be wrong.

                                        1. re: Porthos
                                          blimpbinge Apr 28, 2013 11:50 AM

                                          it's the Arcadia one. Will def need to try the RH one, but since I'm closer to this location, I end up here quite often.

                                          Just finished breakfast, but already debating whether or not i should get that for a late lunch hmm

                                          1. re: blimpbinge
                                            ipsedixit Apr 28, 2013 11:53 AM

                                            Meet you there? :-)

                                            Jonesing for some unagi rice.

                                            1. re: ipsedixit
                                              blimpbinge Apr 28, 2013 12:08 PM

                                              Stomach still digesting greasy diner food :x

                                              Where would be a good place to try unagi rice?

                                              1. re: blimpbinge
                                                ipsedixit Apr 28, 2013 12:13 PM

                                                Where would be a good place to try unagi rice?

                                                SinBaLa of course.

                                                They call it "Eel Rice" ... guess it's the bastardized Taiwanese version of Unagi-Don.

                                                But whatever. I *like* it.

                                                1. re: ipsedixit
                                                  blimpbinge Apr 28, 2013 12:23 PM

                                                  okz, new thing to try

                                            2. re: blimpbinge
                                              Porthos Apr 28, 2013 12:42 PM

                                              Oh yeah, always gotta get some to go ;-)

                                              Like when I'm at 101 Noodle House. Always pick up a pack of frozen wild vegetable dumplings to go.

                                          2. re: blimpbinge
                                            ipsedixit Apr 28, 2013 11:50 AM

                                            It is why it is my *favorite* restaurant.

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                                              kevin Apr 28, 2013 06:57 PM

                                              Which one is your favorite.

                                              1. re: kevin
                                                ipsedixit Apr 28, 2013 07:10 PM

                                                What do you mean which one?

                                      2. re: Porthos
                                        TonyC Apr 28, 2013 09:08 PM

                                        But there's already a Class 302. Same shit, different chairs?

                                        DTF is taking over McDonald's, and is set to become the next destination "mall food" in LA. And why not, it has already happened for all the franchisees in Singapore, Indonesia, Thailand, Australia., etc.

                                        1. re: TonyC
                                          ipsedixit Apr 28, 2013 09:17 PM

                                          SinBaLa is a Taiwanese small eats place that has shaved ice/desserts.

                                          Class 302 is a shaved snow/dessert/boba place that happens to have a selection of Taiwanese meal plates.

                                          The housemade sausages alone at SinBaLa separate the 2.

                                          1. re: ipsedixit
                                            J.L. Apr 28, 2013 09:36 PM

                                            Tru 'dat.

                                            1. re: ipsedixit
                                              TonyC Apr 28, 2013 11:26 PM

                                              Spoken as if shaved ice isn't also a Taiwanese point of pride. (Of course it Is, cause Wei says so: http://www.seriouseats.com/2012/08/ta...

                                              Shaved ice @C302 sits on throne next to SBL's Taiwanese sau-su-gees. The lines are a testament to this. Same shit, different day; especially because Quang Tran stuffs a better Taiwanese wiener better than a Taiwanese.

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                                                blimpbinge Apr 28, 2013 11:34 PM

                                                do you know if quang tran does it cantonese style, tw style, or both styles?

                                                the pics I see seem to point towards cantonese style, but I have not had a chance to visit because i tend to buy the ones from the mkts

                                                1. re: TonyC
                                                  Porthos Apr 29, 2013 12:35 AM

                                                  The shaved ice does look pretty impressive but I don't crave that stuff.

                                                  Looked through about 200 yelp photos and haven't come across any pork and bamboo over rice or pork belly and preserved vegetables with rice. Those two things are done pretty well at SinBala and what I crave the most. Does Class 302 have either dish?

                                                  1. re: Porthos
                                                    ipsedixit Apr 29, 2013 07:49 AM


                                                    But they have shabu-shabu.

                                                    And now they have a Cerritos branch. 'Natch.

                                                  2. re: TonyC
                                                    ipsedixit Apr 29, 2013 07:49 AM

                                                    NO one goes to SinBaLa solely for shaved ice, or boba. If you did, it would be like going to Langer's because you craved tuna salad.

                                                    And like I said, the raison d'être for SinBaLa is their sausages, raw and cooked.

                                                    1. re: ipsedixit
                                                      J.L. Apr 29, 2013 11:01 AM


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                                                        kevin Apr 29, 2013 11:04 AM

                                                        I thought Sin Ba La was mainly a place to go for those boba drinks and some small plates dishes as well as dogs, but nothing exactly gastronomically exceptional.

                                                        1. re: kevin
                                                          Servorg Apr 29, 2013 11:08 AM

                                                          Check out this menu photo from Yelp http://www.yelp.com/biz_photos/sinbal...

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                                                            PeterCC Apr 29, 2013 11:15 AM

                                                            I think them may be fightin' words... :-)

                                                            Still haven't made it to SinBaLa but definitely on my to-do list to try their xiang chang.

                                                            1. re: kevin
                                                              TonyC Apr 29, 2013 11:22 AM


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                                                                Porthos Apr 29, 2013 11:34 AM

                                                                but nothing exactly gastronomically exceptional.
                                                                Spoken like someone who has never had the pork and bamboo over rice ;-)

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                                                                  kevin Apr 29, 2013 12:11 PM

                                                                  Ok, ok, ok.

                                                                  I will get there soon. it's basically a half block from Din Tai Fung, right ?

                                                                  1. re: kevin
                                                                    Porthos Apr 29, 2013 12:29 PM

                                                                    It's not unheard of to walk over and grab a bite to eat while waiting for DTF if the line at DTF is more than an hour...

                                                                    1. re: kevin
                                                                      ipsedixit Apr 29, 2013 01:44 PM

                                                                      Half block?

                                                                      More like where you park your car if you are eating at DTF during peak times.

                                                          2. re: TonyC
                                                            J.L. Apr 28, 2013 09:18 PM

                                                            Is DTF publicly traded?

                                                            1. re: J.L.
                                                              ipsedixit Apr 28, 2013 09:21 PM

                                                              FSM says ... chi is not yet full for IPO.

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                                                ns1 Jul 15, 2013 01:52 PM

                                                "under construction" signage is up @ SCP location. They took over the old McDonalds next to Sears. Mind = blown; I ate soooooo many meals at that McDonalds in my childhood. Pretty sure my first McRib was at that McDonalds.

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                                                1. re: ns1
                                                  kevin Jul 15, 2013 01:54 PM

                                                  scp location ?

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                                                    ns1 Jul 15, 2013 01:55 PM

                                                    south coast plaza..

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                                                      A5 KOBE Jul 15, 2013 03:16 PM

                                                      I had my first McDonalds pizza there.

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                                                        kevin Jul 15, 2013 04:50 PM

                                                        McDonald's pizza ????

                                                        Oh, man.

                                                        I wish it were still around again. I'd actually make a return visit.

                                                2. J.L. Oct 1, 2013 11:32 PM

                                                  ... re-bumping.

                                                  It's now October, and DTF is still not open yet at The Americana. The (very friendly; almost too friendly) Americana concierge on the other end of my inquiry call basically had no friggin' idea when it will be...

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                                                  1. re: J.L.
                                                    ns1 Oct 1, 2013 11:40 PM

                                                    ns1 sad.

                                                    1. re: ns1
                                                      jdwdeville Oct 2, 2013 09:45 AM

                                                      and deville hungry.

                                                    2. re: J.L.
                                                      kevin Oct 2, 2013 11:55 AM

                                                      When it opens I will hit it up, so I can do some one-stop shopping.

                                                      1. re: kevin
                                                        jgilbert1000 Oct 2, 2013 01:30 PM

                                                        Do you think there might be an 8 hour line when it opens?

                                                        1. re: jgilbert1000
                                                          kevin Oct 2, 2013 01:34 PM

                                                          Who knows ??? But if you happen to live in West LA or Santa Monica it's not that much closer than Arcadia.

                                                          1. re: kevin
                                                            J.L. Oct 2, 2013 04:39 PM

                                                            FYI: If I recall Americana's website, their famous pork XLBs will ONLY be available on weekends.

                                                            My prediction: It'd probably be faster to get XLBs if you got into your car at the Americana, drove over to Arcadia DTF, found parking, waited in line there, and ordered your XLBs from that location.

                                                            1. re: J.L.
                                                              PeterCC Oct 2, 2013 08:21 PM


                                                              "Weekend guests will enjoy the signature mini soup dumplings."

                                                              Their regular XLB will be available during regular business hours but the mini ones are only available on the weekends while supplies last. Same as the Arcadia store.

                                                              Incidentally, I've never gotten there early enough on a weekend to try the mini ones. Anyone know if they are simply smaller or if they're prepared a different way?

                                                              1. re: PeterCC
                                                                blimpbinge Oct 2, 2013 08:47 PM

                                                                as far as i can tell, they're just mini ones (and for some reason, flipped upside down). it also comes with a soup.

                                                                i don't think it was worth waking up so early and lining up before they even opened (got there at 9:45am and there's already a line..) to be one of the parties to get it. if you miss out, just order one more regular xlb.

                                                                pics: mini vs regular

                                                                1. re: blimpbinge
                                                                  PeterCC Oct 2, 2013 08:59 PM

                                                                  Weird that they're upside down. You mean a separate soup, not the "soup" inside the bao themselves, right? What kind of soup do they come with?

                                                                  1. re: PeterCC
                                                                    blimpbinge Oct 2, 2013 09:17 PM

                                                                    ya separate small soup. It was very very very light, possibly chicken (??) based, not herbal like their other chicken soup. Has slices of egg. Not memorable. I'd rather order their chicken soup.

                                                                    I found a pic on yelp:

                                                                    1. re: PeterCC
                                                                      blimpbinge Oct 2, 2013 09:21 PM

                                                                      I also found a pic of "you tofu" (yong tau foo??) from the yelp:

                                                                      I may need to go back and look for it, didn't see it before!

                                                                      1. re: blimpbinge
                                                                        PeterCC Oct 2, 2013 09:24 PM

                                                                        I've had that before. It's these things in soup: http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/908356

                                                                  2. re: PeterCC
                                                                    Porthos Oct 2, 2013 09:13 PM

                                                                    The mini ones are a joke. It's mini XLB with a bowl of clear soup (chicken I think but not the nice steamed chicken soup that they serve) on the side. It's a ploy and barely worth getting once only to satisfy one's curiosity.

                                                                    1. re: Porthos
                                                                      PeterCC Oct 2, 2013 09:22 PM

                                                                      Thanks blimpbinge and Porthos. Now I feel like I haven't missed anything...

                                                                      1. re: PeterCC
                                                                        blimpbinge Oct 2, 2013 09:35 PM

                                                                        I heard my friends going to try.. somehow they were always able to get an order.. i just had to get it myself. I don't think my expectations were different on that day, as I also had the normal sized xlb in the same sitting.

                                                                        Like porthos said, once for curiosity. I probably won't order it again haha

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                                                          ns1 Nov 1, 2013 05:08 PM

                                                          Opens 11/4, has truffle dumplings and cocktails


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                                                          1. re: ns1
                                                            PeterCC Nov 1, 2013 05:34 PM

                                                            Chandavkl's got it covered: http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/922449 :-)

                                                            Though it's good that the notification will go to everyone else on this thread.

                                                            1. re: PeterCC
                                                              ns1 Nov 1, 2013 05:35 PM

                                                              The topic title could use some work.

                                                              1. re: ns1
                                                                PeterCC Nov 1, 2013 05:39 PM

                                                                Agreed. Too bad it's not editable past 2 hours.

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                                                            ns1 Dec 19, 2013 12:25 PM

                                                            Tried to stop by today. 12pm, rainy as hell, 1 hour wait. We left.

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                                                              Sgee Dec 19, 2013 11:33 PM

                                                              Nice decor! Good move to spread their wings beyond SgV

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                                                                Xan7hos Dec 23, 2013 07:09 AM

                                                                Had some time to kill between shopping and waiting for the snowfall event @ 7pm at the Americana so I ended up at DTF, and it was definitely a sad experience.

                                                                First of all their waiting system is flawed. I appreciate the fact that they take down your phone # and call when your table is ready give or take ~5-10 min, but it made zero sense to have them call you only to wait another 20-30 minutes or so for them to reset a table. Secondly the line to queue up after being called in is terribly disorganized as it lines people up in a very small space next to the window where they assemble the dumplings. Whats worse is people ignore or is unaware of this line so cutting, unintentional or otherwise, occurs.

                                                                Onto the food. The term "fallen from grace" comes to mind. I've always cherished Arcadia's DTF's xlb for its delicate skin, as it's usually the first and lasting indicator of care and quality of a good xlb. Delicate in my mind because of it's thinner nature compared to other restaurants, delicate because of being made to order as opposed to steamed from frozen. Not a lot of places can do this due to the sheer volume of dumplings DTF serves. Sadly, at this location the skin just had a texture that was just not there, and more so it had a slight gummy blandness to it.

                                                                My party of four ended up with the traditional pork soup dumpling, crab and pork soup dumpling, and shrimp and pork dumplings. While I have no issues with the quality of the soup for all (pork and crab had great crab flavor, etc.), I feel like there is less of it compared to Arcadia. Here, it's a sip instead of a burst. More so I found the meat to be on the dryer more crumbly side..I'm presuming due to a lacking of fat in the mixture.

                                                                We also ordered shanghai rice cake...flavors are there but lacking "wok hay" that I remember Arcadia having. Spicy pork noodles was also underwhelming.

                                                                All things considered I'd skip the pretentiousness and lackluster quality and go for the better deal at many better options in the SGV. This is a Din Tai Fung in poor standing and while it can aspire it lacks the soul of a good DTF.

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                                                                1. re: Xan7hos
                                                                  carter Dec 23, 2013 12:11 PM

                                                                  <All things considered I'd skip the pretentiousness and lackluster quality and go for the better deal at many better options in the SGV. This is a Din Tai Fung in poor standing and while it can aspire it lacks the soul of a good DTF.>

                                                                  You are the 2nd to make this comment to me in the past 24 hours!

                                                                  1. re: carter
                                                                    kevin Dec 23, 2013 02:47 PM

                                                                    Though they do serve drinks.

                                                                    1. re: carter
                                                                      Fru Jan 3, 2014 03:59 PM

                                                                      In same boat as X. Went to DTF in Glendale because we were already there. Even though DTF is considered the McDonalds of XLB by some, it is reliable. I will not ever purposely go back to the Glendale outpost. Under-seasoned and over-salted. There were 5 of us so I justified ordering the truffle soup dumplings--$22.50 for 5. I am still miffed that I got suckered. We were told when being served to not use any dipping sauce so as to not mask the truffle taste. What truffle taste? It was masked by salt. When I complained to our very sweet, very young, very um, white waitress that they were more salty than anything else, she mused that it must be because of the broth. I just got off the phone with management to tell them of my experience for no other reason than I just wanted to vent. He thanked me and said they would check with the kitchen and we said our goodbyes. So, don't waste $22.50 on the truffle dumplings!

                                                                      1. re: Fru
                                                                        linus Jan 3, 2014 10:50 PM

                                                                        do you think the waitress would have mused differently if she were purple with pink polka dots?

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                                                                          Xan7hos Jan 4, 2014 11:51 PM


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                                                                            linus Jan 5, 2014 07:39 AM

                                                                            that makes me very sad.

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                                                                    mc michael Jan 3, 2014 09:05 PM

                                                                    FSM? What, Free Speech Movement?

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                                                                    1. re: mc michael
                                                                      ns1 Jan 4, 2014 08:21 AM

                                                                      The Flying Spaghetti Monster. My diety of choice.

                                                                      1. re: ns1
                                                                        Servorg Jan 4, 2014 08:34 AM

                                                                        Drop the "y" and suck it up...

                                                                    2. toitoi Mar 1, 2014 12:19 PM

                                                                      Friend at 24hour fitness wanted to eat at DTF, but the long lines annoyed him. So, when I suggested we get there at opening, 11am, he said, "For lunch?" I reminded him that dim sum was a breakfast item, but he did agree to go.

                                                                      We got there at 11:30, seated immediately, a weekday, not too many folks just yet. Overly polite waiter explained the menu and made suggestions. But we both knew what we wanted but listen to him intently.

                                                                      Our order: cucumbers, hot and sour soup, and pork soup dumplings.

                                                                      Cukes arrived first, sleekly covered in oil, sliced about 1/2 inch thick, looking extremely attractive. But no taste.

                                                                      Soup next. Wasn't Hot or Sour (I added lotsa vinegar) It was borderline cold. In the midst of our soup, the dumplings arrived covered with a lid, which the waiter immediately removed, and I couldn't get his attention to bring it back. Soooo, the dumplings sat, their top-knot drying, while we consumed the soup before it got even more cold. The dumping wrapper tops were thick, and the bottoms too thin. A bite into the skin for the soup, even though I held the dumpling in the spoon, spilled into it, and to make matters worse. the pork was tepid and not too tasty.

                                                                      It's apparent that whoever supervises the staff hasn't instructed them on when and how to clear the table. Cuke plate empty, it disappeared - fine. We finished the dumplings, and those plates, including the ginger strips went. Some soup still remained, my friend finished his, and it was swept away. I had my bowl in front of me, with spoon in my mouth, a bit more in the bowl, and a teeny amount left in the serving bowl, but that disappeared. And with the spoon still in my mouth, the unasked-for check was plopped on the table.

                                                                      I'm certain the locals love it, "It's so Chinese." Last time there for me. I'll stick to the SGV.

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                                                                        TheOffalo Mar 1, 2014 12:46 PM

                                                                        That sounds absolutely awful.

                                                                        1. re: toitoi
                                                                          LAgirl2 Mar 1, 2014 01:39 PM

                                                                          wow, really? I was just talking to a friend of mine who went to this location last nite for the first time and she said that the service was a bit odd, but that the food was the same as the SGV location. Bummer. I had heard mixed reviews and was hoping to check this location out since I'm in Glendale every Sat. morning to practice tai chi and this is only a couple blocks up the street :(

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