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KaimukiMan Apr 17, 2013 09:51 AM

On at least one of the boards I visit regularly there is one person who has a deep seated need to share his or her insights on every single issue, regardless of his or her personal knowledge or experience. I generally just skip over anything that person has written, was wondering if there was any way I could avoid even having to see the name. Probably not, but thought I would ask the question.

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  1. Jacquilynne RE: KaimukiMan Apr 17, 2013 10:20 AM

    It's not a feature that's available on the site right now.

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    1. re: Jacquilynne
      mcf RE: Jacquilynne Apr 29, 2013 07:41 AM

      Is there any discussion among TPTB about adding it? It sure would cut down on pissing matches and snark and allow moderators and chowhounds to focus on the food related content of posts, not the posters personally.

      Especially as moderation is allowing so much more contentiousness and snark to stay up, it would make the CH boards much easier to enjoy as an adjunct method of personal moderation.

      This is a tool whose time has come. Much more important and useful than the lame "recommend" button.

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        HillJ RE: mcf Apr 29, 2013 08:08 AM

        Now there's a suggestion I gladly endorse. No one has noticed that the Rec button has played a role in fueling contentiousness and snark?

        I'm not fond of settling for long winded bravado about "other people's" manners and shitty behavior over a lack of patience, kindness and acceptance, how about all of YOU?

        So, how backwards does the site need to go? To the point where you can draft a list of people you'd rather ignore?!

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          ipsedixit RE: HillJ Apr 29, 2013 08:14 AM

          How about this?

          Instead of an ignore, why not just go all the way, and allow OP's to block certain posters from replying.

          Yeah, why not ...

          1. re: ipsedixit
            Servorg RE: ipsedixit Apr 29, 2013 08:17 AM

            Let's quit fooling around. We simply need a feature that eradicates all their posts, eliminates their CH account and locks them out of coming back to the site for all eternity! ;-D>

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              HillJ RE: ipsedixit Apr 29, 2013 08:18 AM

              Doesn't CH call that Moderation, ips? The community policing itself while not new seems to be churning up more than ever. Ignoring should be super easy (CH, OP, thread comment) but apparently IT IS NOT.

              The shit is gonna fly sooner than later...and not just a few green M&M's...
              http://jimleff.blogspot.com/2013/04/l...

          2. re: mcf
            linguafood RE: mcf Apr 29, 2013 11:16 AM

            Sorry mcf, but I had to recommend your post :-)

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              mcf RE: linguafood Apr 29, 2013 11:19 AM

              I hate that I use the button, too; does it help to know that I bite the inside of my cheek every time? ;-)

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                linguafood RE: mcf Apr 29, 2013 11:22 AM

                Just don't swallow, even if it's low-carb.

            2. re: mcf
              Jacquilynne RE: mcf Apr 30, 2013 01:41 PM

              It's been discussed and hasn't been definitively shot down, but I wouldn't say it was in the works or on our priority list of features.

              There are some days when I'd like it just so I could put certain posters on each other's ignore lists, but apparently we're not supposed to make product decisions based purely on what makes me cranky.

              1. re: Jacquilynne
                gaffk RE: Jacquilynne Apr 30, 2013 02:21 PM

                There are some days when I'd like it just so I could put certain posters on each other's ignore lists,
                -----------------------------------------------------
                That's a great idea! I think you should make your argument again.

                1. re: Jacquilynne
                  mcf RE: Jacquilynne Apr 30, 2013 02:29 PM

                  Fine, then, make them based upon what makes ME cranky!!

            3. John E. RE: KaimukiMan Apr 17, 2013 11:59 AM

              Whenever I see a thread such as this one, my insecurities rise up and I wonder if I am guilty of the same behavior as that raised in threads such as this one.

              (KaimukiMan, I am not asking for confirmation or denial, in fact, I don't wish to know.)

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                Kris in Beijing RE: John E. Apr 17, 2013 01:25 PM

                I feel the same nervous way, particularly as I have been posting With A Vengeance yet try not to post With Vengeance.

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                  ohmyyum RE: John E. Apr 18, 2013 06:56 PM

                  Me too. Ironically, such individuals would probably believe that this post could never ever apply to him or her.

                  1. re: John E.
                    KaimukiMan RE: John E. Apr 18, 2013 09:45 PM

                    A good point and well taken. I am (mostly) past that point myself, but I acknowledge your statement as I have been seen to be a know-it-all from time to time. I won't comment on your general proclivities per your specific request - but I will say that you were not the person who prompted my comment in the first place.

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                      John E. RE: KaimukiMan Apr 23, 2013 06:26 PM

                      This thread just popped up again and I read your post again. My original reply to you was not implying anything other than wonderng if threads such as these apply to me. I did not intend to suggest anyone else should consider the same possibility.

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                        Servorg RE: John E. Apr 23, 2013 06:42 PM

                        Worrying that you might be a little crazy and doing some "soul searching" to check that as best you can just proves you're probably not. Being absolutely cock sure you're the sanest person in the land just means you are definitely as bat-shit crazy as the looniest loon that bat always wanted to be...

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                          John E. RE: Servorg Apr 23, 2013 07:25 PM

                          "Being absolutely cock sure you're the sanest person in the land just means you are definitely as bat-shit crazy as the looniest loon that bat always wanted to be..."

                          Thanks. I will remember your last line.

                          I have been told by family members that I have a 'freakish' memory. I remember stuff, but not necessarily important stuff. (I know all the birthdates of my family, including in-laws, nieces/nephews.) I have had a few 'Cliff Claven' moments so I attempt to keep them to a minimum.

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                            Servorg RE: John E. Apr 23, 2013 07:35 PM

                            I'm used to "freakish" memory stuff as my wife is almost a savant about people she has only seen a time or two in her store, and then after 15 or 20 years they will come in and she'll remember not only their name but other things that hey told her all those years ago. Another thing she does is recall their name just hearing their voice on the phone, after not talking to them for 15 or 20 years, when they call.

                            1. re: Servorg
                              John E. RE: Servorg Apr 23, 2013 07:59 PM

                              Your wife has has me beat, easily. (Sorry if that sounds weird, I wrote it a couple different ways and this version has the least innuendo.)

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                                Jay F RE: Servorg Apr 23, 2013 08:43 PM

                                I'm like that. I remember people from kindergarten, practically all of whom I haven't seen since. I nearly always remember people's names. But my best friend remembers song lyrics and lines from movies and plays. Now that is a talent I wish I had.

                        2. re: KaimukiMan
                          jrvedivici RE: KaimukiMan May 1, 2013 08:06 AM

                          I was the first to post "Is it me", however I guess the Moderator's decided they wanted me to stay in suspense since they removed my original post.

                          (seriously is it me?)

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                            chowser RE: jrvedivici May 1, 2013 08:19 AM

                            You must have missed all the responses to the question... Just kidding. I had the same question--umm, not that it was you but that it might be me.

                            A further question would be, did anyone NOT think, "Is it me?"

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                          Isolda RE: John E. Apr 24, 2013 09:30 AM

                          Yup, I was thinking the same thing: Hope I'm not the guilty party!

                        4. Jay F RE: KaimukiMan Apr 17, 2013 12:05 PM

                          Even on forums where I can push an "ignore" button, I still have to look at the box the "ignored" member's post is in. I just can't see the post. It's almost worse, because the "ignored" post is so different looking the rest, it's hard to ignore.

                          Didn't AOL have a feature where you could become invisible to certain posters? I'd love that, as the only people I'd like to ignore post at me first.

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                            Kris in Beijing RE: Jay F Apr 17, 2013 01:24 PM

                            fB has this feature.
                            You can ignore "Comments about ____" or "All comments from ___ [user]."
                            was helpful during elections.

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                            Bkeats RE: KaimukiMan Apr 18, 2013 03:58 PM

                            If this feature existed, there might be more people I would have filtered than not. I would have added 2 this week.

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                              donovt RE: Bkeats Apr 18, 2013 04:22 PM

                              My version of this site would have about 20 people on it. There would be a lot of blank spaces.

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                                gaffk RE: Bkeats Apr 18, 2013 06:50 PM

                                Agreed. Thanks to two particularly aggressive posters this week I have decided to return to lurker status rather than poster (except this one post, of course ;) I have removed my name, location and e-mail address from my profile as well.

                                I think I'd still have more people I'd read than ignore, but those I wish to ignore are certainly increasing in numbers :(

                                1. re: gaffk
                                  John E. RE: gaffk Apr 18, 2013 08:36 PM

                                  Right now I can't recall specific threads on which you have posted, but I do know you have been posting here for some time and I have read your posts. I don't know what you have been experiencing here lately, but I encourage you to ignore the aggresive posts that have been off putting to you and continue as you were prior to the unpleasantness you seem to have endured this last week. Plus, I like the little cat in your avatar.

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                                    gaffk RE: John E. Apr 19, 2013 02:14 PM

                                    Yeah, things change . . . that cute little kitten is now a big 7 yo monster.

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                                    KathyM RE: gaffk Apr 23, 2013 08:57 PM

                                    The community in general must police the community otherwise things will devolve and the beloved CH site will just be a cherished memory. I would urge you to be a good citizen and shun/admonish annoying posters (in a civilized way of course) to keep CH stay on its course. Scratch that. I've been a lurker for probably 10 years and enjoying the peace :-)

                                    1. re: KathyM
                                      The Chowhound Team RE: KathyM Apr 24, 2013 08:44 AM

                                      Ignoring posters you don't like is encouraged! But please don't admonish them. If you think they're running afoul of the site rules, please use Flag to bring it to our attention.

                                    2. re: gaffk
                                      Veggo RE: gaffk Apr 24, 2013 09:22 AM

                                      Boo hoo don't go away. Kitty people need to stick together.

                                      1. re: Veggo
                                        gaffk RE: Veggo Apr 24, 2013 05:18 PM

                                        Agree on the cat people. Maybe I'll just take a cooling off hiatus (and avoid commenting on the NAF board ;)

                                        Although, as a lurker, I still get to enjoy your posts.

                                        ETA: This thread is my one exception to the rule

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                                    KathyM RE: KaimukiMan Apr 23, 2013 05:01 PM

                                    I just want to know one thing. Do these people have lives? Do they work? How do they find the time to read every single post and reply to them?

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                                    1. re: KathyM
                                      Kris in Beijing RE: KathyM Apr 23, 2013 07:31 PM

                                      As a "blitz poster" myself,
                                      who KNOWS the block request applies to me for some,
                                      it's easy if you don't get behind.
                                      Threads usually pick up 3 -5 comments during the US workday, and then get hit heavily in the evenings.
                                      So it's not that hard if you're there from the inception and don't write kilometer-long replies.

                                      1. re: KathyM
                                        chowser RE: KathyM Apr 30, 2013 12:22 PM

                                        Smart phones, down time between clients, boredom when taking kids to activities, being early (I'm chronically early)... It's something to do when you have a few minutes.

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                                          Servorg RE: chowser Apr 30, 2013 12:28 PM

                                          OCD...

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                                            chowser RE: Servorg Apr 30, 2013 12:30 PM

                                            That, too.

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                                            MGZ RE: chowser Apr 30, 2013 12:32 PM

                                            People who are chronically early are the best people in the world.

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                                              Servorg RE: MGZ Apr 30, 2013 12:34 PM

                                              I'm not sure every party host would agree with that... ;-D>

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                                                MGZ RE: Servorg Apr 30, 2013 12:36 PM

                                                Probably right, but it seems to me that people who are chronically early wait in the car until it's time to go in.

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                                                  chowser RE: MGZ Apr 30, 2013 12:37 PM

                                                  And all the more time to post on CH. A win, win!

                                        2. NonnieMuss RE: KaimukiMan Apr 24, 2013 12:59 PM

                                          Agree. I would also like to put in my request for an "ignore" option. I wonder if we're thinking of the same person?

                                          I see that a topic I'm interested in has new content, click on it, and the new content is this one poster's 14 comments replying to others.

                                          As with the other posters in this thread, I sure hope you're not talking about me!

                                          1. KaimukiMan RE: KaimukiMan Apr 24, 2013 04:53 PM

                                            One thing I am fairly certain of is that if the Poster who prompted the question were to read this, that person would never dream it was about them. As is often the case. It's the guy at the beach wearing speedos who never realizes he has no reason to wear speedos. The woman wearing a lycra tube top at the grocery store who should think twice about venturing out in anything less than a tent, etc. Who knows, maybe I'm posting about myself. I know for a fact that I've written things that the next day I wish I could ignore.

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                                              gaffk RE: KaimukiMan Apr 24, 2013 05:22 PM

                                              C'mon KM, you know it's not you. We've all occasionally posted something we've regretted, but generally when I re-read them they're not *too* bad.

                                              But you're right, these aggressive posters would never recognize themselves.

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                                                KrumTx RE: KaimukiMan Apr 24, 2013 05:28 PM

                                                I completely agree. I've lurked for years and started posting a little over a year ago, but one poster has almost driven me away, and I wonder if she hasn't driven away my old favorites like mamachef. One particular thread will have 300 posts with 100 from one poster. I'm sorry, but that's too much. I agree that she probably has no idea, though. It's sad and annoying at the same time. My question is why have some of my favorites left?

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                                                  ElsieDee RE: KrumTx Apr 28, 2013 01:25 AM

                                                  KrumTx, if you go to mamachef's profile, she has listed her email address if you want to contact her.

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                                                    pikawicca RE: KrumTx Apr 30, 2013 01:52 PM

                                                    I just noticed that katie_nell hasn't posted since last summer. Tried emailing her, to no avail.

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                                                      chowser RE: pikawicca Apr 30, 2013 02:02 PM

                                                      I've noticed a few "missing" CH and thought of starting a thread, but wasn't sure if that would be allowed. Sometimes I start thinking, "I haven't seen xxx in a while" and look for more recent posts. Bushwickgirl, Kelli2006 (I think it's 2006), soupkitten, todao.

                                                      1. re: chowser
                                                        MGZ RE: chowser Apr 30, 2013 02:08 PM

                                                        RGR is another one. She used to drive me nuts, but she was a long time, loyal 'hound (mostly on the local boards NY/NJ).

                                                        I know jfood dropped off to pursue his master's bidding with a local publication.

                                                        Foodfuser, sadly, passed away not too long ago.

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                                                          chowser RE: MGZ Apr 30, 2013 02:18 PM

                                                          Good luck to jfood. I'm glad he's off to something good. It seemed he dropped off about the time Sam passed away and I always wondered with them being so close that this was no longer a haven. It's been very sad to lose CH. I also wonder if it's happened and we never hear.

                                                          Oh, someone I highly respected for his bread making--Father Kitchen. It might have been years now.

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                                                            Father Kitchen RE: chowser May 1, 2013 11:32 AM

                                                            Chowser, thanks for thinking of me. One of the other members alerted me. I've always liked your posts, though I don't see them often now. In the summer of 2011 I was sent to Milwaukee and, in an unexpected round of job switches, ended up pastor of two parishes at an age when I should be retiring. (I just turned 69.) Learning the administrative end of this has been a stretch and the hours have been long. I hardly ever get to cook. But I have made fresh pasta, did make jam last summer (favorite: Miche's Apricot Jam from Susan Herman Loomis), and recently began baking in our new ovens. So watch for more from me from time to time. Just not as often.

                                                            1. re: Father Kitchen
                                                              chowser RE: Father Kitchen May 1, 2013 12:39 PM

                                                              What a nice surprise! Thanks for whoever alerted you. You probably don't realize the impact you've had on the board but I think of you whenever I use a technique I've learned from you, eg. kneading wet dough like taffy, different uses of terra cotta for baking. Hope you find time to get back into the kitchen soon--you've got too much knowledge to waste! Look forward to chatting about fresh pasta one day. I've been away from that too long.

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                                                                Father Kitchen RE: chowser May 1, 2013 12:46 PM

                                                                Well, let's see. Last Sunday I was supposed to make Porchetta, but our birthday friar (who hates anything "gourmet") begged for angel hair pasta and Prego traditional sauce. Maybe next time, I'll finally get to make cannelloni alla piedmontese al forno. Maybe toward the end of the month.

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                                                                  chowser RE: Father Kitchen May 1, 2013 02:17 PM

                                                                  Sounds like you're getting in some good cooking for someone who's not getting to cook much! That sounds great.

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                                                                    Father Kitchen RE: chowser May 2, 2013 09:57 AM

                                                                    It amounts to about twice a month, so I try to keep it interesting.

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                                                                Fowler RE: Father Kitchen May 1, 2013 02:15 PM

                                                                I sure hope you will consider posting on the Great Lakes part of the board. There are a number of fine people from MKE that I am sure would love to hear your thoughts.

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                                                                  Father Kitchen RE: Fowler May 2, 2013 09:58 AM

                                                                  Thanks for the suggestion.

                                                          2. re: chowser
                                                            The Chowhound Team RE: chowser Apr 30, 2013 02:16 PM

                                                            We generally prefer to avoid 'where did X go?' threads. Some people have left for personal reasons that they'd prefer not to have discussed, some are banned, etc.

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                                                              chowser RE: The Chowhound Team Apr 30, 2013 02:19 PM

                                                              Thanks--feel free to delete any of this as you see needed.

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                                                                John E. RE: The Chowhound Team Apr 30, 2013 03:01 PM

                                                                How often are people banned?

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                                                                  Servorg RE: John E. Apr 30, 2013 03:05 PM

                                                                  http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/8724...

                                                                  1. re: John E.
                                                                    Jacquilynne RE: John E. May 1, 2013 07:14 AM

                                                                    Very infrequently, if we're just talking about users who have participated enough that people might miss them if they left. We deactivate accounts quite often, but those are a mix of (in approximately descending order) spammers and shills, people who've requested deactivation, sockpuppet accounts belonging to registered users, temporary suspensions, and truly banned users -- the last is a tiny, tiny minority. Because of the volume of other deactivations, though, it's not really possible to give you a good count of real users banned. My rough estimate would be more than one a year, less than one a month.

                                                              2. re: pikawicca
                                                                pikawicca RE: pikawicca May 7, 2013 05:25 PM

                                                                Just heard from her -- she's fine, just busy.

                                                              3. re: KrumTx
                                                                gaffk RE: KrumTx May 13, 2013 06:54 PM

                                                                Mamachef has given me permission to let y'all know she's alive and well.

                                                                We all need a break now and then (that's from me, not MC).

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                                                                hyacinthgirl RE: KaimukiMan Apr 26, 2013 01:28 PM

                                                                Now I think it's me. The only thing convincing me it's not is the lesson I tried to learn back in high school- no one's talking about you as much as you think they should be.

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                                                                  chowser RE: KaimukiMan Apr 30, 2013 12:10 PM

                                                                  "Who knows, maybe I'm posting about myself. I know for a fact that I've written things that the next day I wish I could ignore."

                                                                  Multiple personalities aside, I've always found your posts balanced (I was going to use another term but a network has already grabbed it for its own) and well thought out so I'm surprised you have moments like that, too. I think many of us, definitely I have, would put ourselves in the same boat--of regretting something we posted. Maybe the key is to try to keep it in mind when someone else does the same?

                                                                2. Fowler RE: KaimukiMan Apr 28, 2013 08:11 PM

                                                                  There have been many times over the years where I wished I could have filtered out the comments of certain posters and I suspect there are quite a few contributors that wish they could have blocked out my comments.

                                                                  But just from my experience, I have found that if I actually read more of their comments and gave them a second or third chance, I was glad I did not block them out because they actually turned out to be a nice person and did have value to add in most conversations.

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                                                                    HillJ RE: Fowler Apr 29, 2013 05:30 AM

                                                                    What a polite, positive comment to wake up to. Thank you Fowler.

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                                                                      mcf RE: Fowler Apr 29, 2013 06:40 AM

                                                                      There are people whose posts don't particularly interest me, or who made a bad first impression and some I just don't like, but I don't ignore them for those reasons.

                                                                      There's an occasional poster whose sole contribution with every post seems to be to nit pick, fault find in other poster's comments and to especially, consistently state that the person has absolutely no basis for his/her opinion, but not offer anything but the dismissal/contrariness and personal rating of the poster.

                                                                      I can't WAIT to be able to hit ignore for such posters and I'm sure the same name or two popped into the minds of quite a few readers seeing this thread.

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                                                                        kengk RE: mcf Apr 29, 2013 06:55 AM

                                                                        Indeed.

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                                                                      rasputina RE: KaimukiMan Apr 29, 2013 07:10 AM

                                                                      I'd love to have an ignore feature.

                                                                      1. John E. RE: KaimukiMan Apr 29, 2013 12:38 PM

                                                                        There are a couple of other websites in which I occasionally participate. One of them has a couple of regulars that I ignore. The other site has a an ignore feature but I have not used it. So far the Chowhound website does not have any regular participants who bother me enough to either wish for an ignore feature or to make a personal effort to ignore their posts.

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                                                                          Harters RE: John E. Apr 30, 2013 09:03 AM

                                                                          Another board I use has an "ignore" feature. I find it useful to activate for the occasional person who irritates me beyond belief. The sort of person who, if I posted as I would really wish to post would find me in serious breach of politeness rules.

                                                                          I don't find anyone on Chowhound who irritates me beyond belief. Sure, there are people whose very predictable and regular replies irritate. Same people usually have little interest in having discussions with anyone who holds differing views. Such is life - they're the sort of people who, in real life, you'd avoid like the plague . I just try to avoid engaging with them or, once they are on a roll as they invariably are very quickly, to leave the thread. Life's too short to be overly fussed by tossers like them.

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                                                                            Servorg RE: Harters Apr 30, 2013 09:13 AM

                                                                            I like it. A new (almost military grade) acronym; IBB (Irritated Beyond Belief). I shall now join that with the better known, but much loved, FUBAR, FUBB and SNAFU. Much obliged...and not irritated at all, yet!

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                                                                              mcf RE: Servorg Apr 30, 2013 02:32 PM

                                                                              You left out NFG, one of my faves.

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                                                                                Harters RE: mcf Apr 30, 2013 02:42 PM

                                                                                And one of my favourites - JFDI.

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                                                                                  mcf RE: Harters Apr 30, 2013 04:16 PM

                                                                                  Why doesn't Nike use it?

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                                                                            chowser RE: John E. Apr 30, 2013 12:16 PM

                                                                            The odd thing w/ other boards that have "ignore" functions is that you see the responses to the ignored poster and are left wondering what it's about. While there are posts I would like to ignore, I can't think of many posters that I'd want to ignore 100% of the time. Until CH can predict what I'd want to see or not, I don't think I'd use an ignore function. As Fowler said, I've changed my mind on some posters who've rubbed me wrong in the beginning. If I put that person on ignore, that would never happen.

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                                                                              Harters RE: chowser Apr 30, 2013 12:51 PM

                                                                              Yep, I accept using an "ignore" facility can be difficult. On the other board I mentioned, I "ignored" one guy for years (a classic case of the irritating, pretentious know-all). Then last year, I met him in real life - we were seated next to each other at a dinner - and I discovered he was a thoroughly nice guy. Still pretentious though but I'm no longer irritated by him.

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                                                                                chowser RE: Harters Apr 30, 2013 12:59 PM

                                                                                That's a really nice story! Sometimes a smile and the right tone can make a big difference.

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                                                                                  John E. RE: Harters Apr 30, 2013 01:08 PM

                                                                                  Was the other board one of an extreme 'local' focus? I know there are several people on these threads in my vicinity and I recently discovered a fellow Chowhound who shops at the same Aldi store (located about a mile from my house) but I don't know how I would recognize him in person (not that I would even wish to).

                                                                            2. MGZ RE: KaimukiMan Apr 30, 2013 12:34 PM

                                                                              I have no reason to think such a feature is a good idea. I have never found anyone so troublesome or annoying that I could imagine using such a feature.

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                                                                                mcf RE: MGZ Apr 30, 2013 02:34 PM

                                                                                No one would make you use, it, though. Are you against anyone having access to it?

                                                                                1. re: mcf
                                                                                  MGZ RE: mcf Apr 30, 2013 02:49 PM

                                                                                  In a sense, I am. I am either thicker skinned or more ignorant that most other 'hounds, it seems. I try to read what folks post in their voice - and with the best intentions. Even when someone annoys me, I try to just take in stride and, if appropriate, respond in a reasonable, rational manner.

                                                                                  I can't help but think that an "ignore" feature would not only break up the flow of our "conversations", but also lead to a heightened degree of acrimony. This is a solid community. If someone's bein' an ass, then let the Mods know. They do a terrific job of policing this Site with a little help.

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                                                                                    mcf RE: MGZ Apr 30, 2013 04:20 PM

                                                                                    I think the mods do a lot less policing of snark in recent months, and I also exercise self discipline most of the time, but there are some folks who can get under my skin at times (and I'm sure I do that to some as well) that I've never, ever read anything of use or interest from.

                                                                                    I don't think an ignore button ever does anything but reduce acrimony, from vast experience with usenet kill files and facebook and other group's ignore features where mods can insist on a couple of poster's ignoring one another or else.

                                                                                    All it does is prevent friction.

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                                                                                      linus RE: mcf Apr 30, 2013 08:50 PM

                                                                                      a world without friction is one where no one learns anything. if people cant respond (or not respond) to ideas or people that are different than themselves, discussions, and therefore, discussion boards, cease to exist.
                                                                                      one of the sad facts about being a grownup is you occasionally have to act like one. reading something you dont like, and choosing to not respond, or to respond in a calm, mature fashion, is part of being an adult.
                                                                                      its something all people can be better at; an "ignore" button helps no one improve.

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                                                                                        MGZ RE: linus May 1, 2013 05:42 AM

                                                                                        "[A] world without friction is one where no one learns anything."

                                                                                        Well put. The element of the conversations on this Site that benefits the most is the "dialectic" process.

                                                                                        For example, I offer the thesis that the best way to barbecue chicken wings is to apply a rub, let 'em sit for an hour, indirectly grill 'em with cherry wood for forty minutes, sauce, and finish over the still hot coals. Someone else responds, antithetically, that its way better to omit the rub, grill directly over a medium gas flame, adding the sauce in layers towards the end. A third person may use this to realize that their synthesis would be to apply a rub, indirectly grill for twenty minutes and switch to the direct heat with layers of sauce. Others may find their equilibrium in different processes.

                                                                                        Ultimately, food preferences are subjective. In the foregoing example, think about how the thread may have spun into discussing the "right" sauce. Now we're really talkin' about a lot of variables. I might not find someone else's to be "right", but I bet I'd eat it.

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                                                                                          Bkeats RE: MGZ May 1, 2013 06:46 AM

                                                                                          Your example isn't the type of discourse that is a problem. The poster who comes in and says

                                                                                          How in the world can you eat chicken wings? Don't you realize how unhealthy they are for you? Wings are nothing but SKIN AND FAT. No meat at all. They're not worth eating and they charge you more for wings than anything else and there's ALWAYS a shortage during the football season and don't you know they have to kill chickens to take the wings its not like they can be surgically removed without harm to the poor chickens that are raised in cages where they don't even have enough room to flap their poor little wings. If you have to eat chicken wings make sure they come from uncaged pasture raised non-antibiotic organic grain raised heirloom non-GMO heritage speckled Bresse hens. And you know they serve wings at Hooters?? Don't cha?

                                                                                          Names and places have been changed to protect the innocent.

                                                                                          Can I ignore that poster?

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                                                                                            ohmyyum RE: Bkeats May 1, 2013 06:50 AM

                                                                                            I don't like chicken wings but this is too too freakin funny.

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                                                                                              HillJ RE: ohmyyum May 1, 2013 06:52 AM

                                                                                              that's exactly the kind of Rockem Sockem Robots I was talking about! Pass the wings!

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                                                                                                MGZ RE: HillJ May 1, 2013 07:06 AM

                                                                                                Can I be the Blue guy? Pro wing side?

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                                                                                              MGZ RE: Bkeats May 1, 2013 07:03 AM

                                                                                              "Can I ignore that poster?"

                                                                                              Yep. With or without a Site redesign. I would. Although, I might suggest that they take my approach and I apply it to legs. I've created a thread on the subject.
                                                                                              http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/829233

                                                                                              There's always an alternative.

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                                                                                              jrvedivici RE: MGZ May 1, 2013 08:28 AM

                                                                                              Chicken! Someone say chicken?

                                                                                              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss8LDB...

                                                                                          2. re: mcf
                                                                                            MGZ RE: mcf May 1, 2013 05:30 AM

                                                                                            "[W]here mods can insist on a couple of poster's ignoring one another or else."

                                                                                            Wow. I don't use facebook and don't think I've even seen a page in more than a few years. I had no idea that an "ignore" feature could be used as policing tool. I'm curious, how should it work in a thread? Are you not able to see what one 'hound posts, but can see all the responses?

                                                                                            As to "snark", I just don't see it havin' increased or bein' more tolerated. I'm not even sure that I'd recognize it much of the time.
                                                                                            It's funny, as you likely know, I have been a proponent, for quite some time, of tryin' to read other 'hounds in their "voice". I've even been posting in a manner that might encourage it for a while now.

                                                                                            The problem with that notion, I spose, is that how our "ears" hear others is psychologicallly related to the experiences we have had leadin' up to the conversation. I guess, for a coupla reasons, I've been lucky enough to not have experienced much disrespect in my life. Consequently, I generally don't perceive it much on this Site.

                                                                                            I can't say that I like the idea of an "ignore" feature that can be forced into use by the Mods. I'm sure I could adapt to some voluntary thing that people who feel intimidated can use to feel better. I'd rather see the former situation dealt with by closing down, for a period of time, the accounts of those who offend one another (call it the "time out" feature).

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                                                                                              Servorg RE: MGZ May 1, 2013 05:53 AM

                                                                                              "I can't say that I like the idea of an "ignore" feature that can be forced into use by the Mods..."

                                                                                              Some folks around these parts accuse the moderators of failing to possess a sense of humor. Now, when they have one on full display, (evidence of which is contained in Jacquilynne's writing above "There are some days when I'd like it just so I could put certain posters on each others ignore lists, but apparently we're not supposed to make product decisions based purely on what makes me cranky.") we see posters taking off on the idea of the mod's enforcing an "ignore" feature (do you suppose that there is some coincidental virtue in the fact that "ignorant" and "ignore" come from the same root word?) on hounds, unbidden if you will. And people say we need more humor? Why, when it is in such great abundance here on CH, I ask you? (g)

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                                                                                                MGZ RE: Servorg May 1, 2013 05:58 AM

                                                                                                Hell, Servorg, you had me at your avatar.

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                                                                                                  Servorg RE: MGZ May 1, 2013 06:02 AM

                                                                                                  And what a long, strange trip it's been...

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                                                                                                  HillJ RE: Servorg May 1, 2013 06:03 AM

                                                                                                  serv, without a dose of your style of humor I wouldn't enjoy
                                                                                                  the site talk board nearly as much as I do.

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                                                                                                    mcf RE: Servorg May 1, 2013 06:16 AM

                                                                                                    I thought the notion of "forced ignore" was more like an overinterpretation of my statement about one of the forums I frequent, where moderators will strongly suggest that two posters who inevitably end up out outside of TOS with snark any time they respond to one another avoid doing so. It's not as if the moderators set that command to "ignore" nor does fb as far as I know.

                                                                                                    Sort of the way some folks have failed to consider the acreage between useful exchange of ideas and friction to nothing but friction and escalating antagonism.

                                                                                                    Avoiding chronic antagonism is not the same as avoiding friction.

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                                                                                                      HillJ RE: mcf May 1, 2013 06:18 AM

                                                                                                      Oh I was hoping for some Rock'em Sock'em Robot kinda thing we could all watch while enjoying our lunch. No?

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                                                                                                        MGZ RE: HillJ May 1, 2013 06:20 AM

                                                                                                        I'm so in.

                                                                                                        Hell, let's expand on the idea and make it like in the olden days where a lady could choose her champion.

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                                                                                                          HillJ RE: MGZ May 1, 2013 06:21 AM

                                                                                                          You sell the tickets and cover the door and I'll make refreshments! Ha!

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                                                                                                            MGZ RE: HillJ May 1, 2013 06:22 AM

                                                                                                            Nah, I wanna be in the arena. I'm sure we can find a trustworthy ticket seller.

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                                                                                                              HillJ RE: MGZ May 1, 2013 06:24 AM

                                                                                                              ...I should have known...duh!

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                                                                                                              jrvedivici RE: HillJ May 1, 2013 08:34 AM

                                                                                                              I've got the door covered, not my first time, probably not my last either.

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                                                                                                          linus RE: mcf May 1, 2013 06:39 AM

                                                                                                          sadly, in myriad aspects of life herein 2013, many confuse disagreement with antagonism.
                                                                                                          this makes communication difficult.

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                                                                                                            HillJ RE: linus May 1, 2013 06:47 AM

                                                                                                            Frankly, I can be guilty of confusing advice for sarcasm on the boards. Without a voice, I've been wrong as well as perceived incorrectly. So, if I just ignore a post or comment by moving on isn't that far easier than settings just to follow a thread about food?

                                                                                                            If you set a fellow CH on ignore, you do so for every comment they make or just the comments made within a specific thread? I've never done this, I don't know how it works.

                                                                                                            Call me simple minded but, I believe the comment that pedalfaster just wrote makes a whole lot of sense.

                                                                                                            1. re: linus
                                                                                                              Servorg RE: linus May 1, 2013 06:48 AM

                                                                                                              And, after all, where we would be without fire? We have a most excellent fire department here to keep the flames in check. Let's provide the kindling and let friction do it's work. If the forest isn't in danger of going up in flames then we'll all be warmer and better off for it.

                                                                                                              http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1pv...

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                                                                                                                Jay F RE: Servorg May 1, 2013 07:48 AM

                                                                                                                <We have a most excellent fire department here to keep the flames in check.>

                                                                                                                Not really. One of my best chow friends was driven out of here by someone who harassed her frequently. Nothing has been done about removing the harasser, who continues to post its screed on a daily basis.

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                                                                                                                  Servorg RE: Jay F May 1, 2013 07:56 AM

                                                                                                                  Not being privy to the details all I can say is disagreement can, at times, be mistaken for harassment. I encourage posters who feel as your friend did to engage with the moderators in a private email exchange to see if they can either put the situation right, or at least give context to the problem posts that allows one to see them in a different, less problematic light.

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                                                                                                                    MGZ RE: Jay F May 1, 2013 07:57 AM

                                                                                                                    My first Rock'em Sock'em challenge. Or should we convene a tribunal? Should there be a way to figure out if the "harasser" was truly that? Or, should we just let the 'hounds bark and figure out who the Alphas are?

                                                                                                                    At bottom, I agree with Servorg, but, my joking aside, this scenario raises solid questions.

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                                                                                                                      Jay F RE: MGZ May 1, 2013 08:19 AM

                                                                                                                      <Should there be a way to figure out if the "harasser" was truly that?>

                                                                                                                      The harasser has also responded to posts of mine in a manner that was nasty, overly personal, and off-topic. I think anyone would have felt harassed.

                                                                                                                      I never read any of the posts to my friend. I would imagine, though I might be wrong, that they must have been nastier, or perhaps more frequent, than the ones I received, as it didn't occur to me to leave.

                                                                                                                      The posts to me were subsequently deleted, but the poster continued with its commentary afterwards. I have not heard from the poster in a while, other than in one normal, non-invective-filled response to something I wrote.

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                                                                                                                        MGZ RE: Jay F May 1, 2013 08:32 AM

                                                                                                                        As I suggested above, how we “hear” things is dependent upon who we are and what our experiences have been. It seems, to me, Jay, that you would hold your own, or, at least, it is clear that you have not let yourself be driven away – I’m not surprised. Nonetheless, my offer to grab the lance and don the white shield still stands – Bring on the Black Knight!

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                                                                                                                          Jay F RE: MGZ May 1, 2013 01:45 PM

                                                                                                                          You're welcome to don shield and lance, MGZ, -- white, natch -- but I wouldn't mind if chowhound had a utility that would allow us to decide to be ignored by certain posters. It was a popular AOL feature BITD.

                                                                                                                          I'm not much bothered by what anyone has to say unless they're purposely being a nasty bitch to me, and that's only happened in response mode.

                                                                                                                          So, if they didn't know I'd posted...

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                                                                                                  pedalfaster RE: KaimukiMan Apr 30, 2013 03:14 PM

                                                                                                  After 20-something year of using the internets, gotta say the best "ignore" feature I have found is my brain. "Oh thaaat guy..."

                                                                                                  Works like a charm.

                                                                                                  Now if you are being harassed (DMs, email) then you can get a mod involved.

                                                                                                  1. jrvedivici RE: KaimukiMan May 1, 2013 08:37 AM

                                                                                                    If the mod's do decide to entertain such an "ignore" feature I would like to nominate my wife as a consultant, she seems to have the "ignore" feature all worked out.

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                                                                                                      HillJ RE: jrvedivici May 1, 2013 08:54 AM

                                                                                                      ROFL!!!

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                                                                                                        jrvedivici RE: HillJ May 1, 2013 09:01 AM

                                                                                                        HillJ, I love you darling....but that new avatar of yours is just freaking me out.

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                                                                                                          HillJ RE: jrvedivici May 1, 2013 09:02 AM

                                                                                                          Won't last long..

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