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I understand why B&M's hate food trucks now

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ns1 Apr 16, 2013 09:59 AM

wow, I had no idea it was this bad

http://www.yovenice.com/2013/04/15/fo...

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    Jack Flash RE: ns1 Apr 16, 2013 10:22 AM

    I don't get it. I don't see any food trucks taking up parking spaces; I see cars.

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      ns1 RE: Jack Flash Apr 16, 2013 10:28 AM

      1. Park cars on AK at 2am
      2. Receive parking tickets as car takes up meter until 5pm
      3. Replace car with food truck at 5pm
      4. ???
      5. Profit

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        Jack Flash RE: ns1 Apr 16, 2013 10:36 AM

        So, where is the picture of the food trucks replacing "placeholder" cars? There are only two pictures shown, and neither depicts parked food trucks.

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          ns1 RE: Jack Flash Apr 16, 2013 10:56 AM

          I'll just stop replying now. Surely you can figure out what's going on.

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            Jack Flash RE: ns1 Apr 16, 2013 11:49 AM

            In theory, I'm perfectly willing to believe that this goes on. However, the pictures are offered as photographic evidence of the fact, and it simply doesn't hold up. The pictures do not demonstrate that this is going on. The pictures show cars. They do not show food trucks parked on the street, nor do they depict cars vacating spots for arriving food trucks.

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              Dirtywextraolives RE: Jack Flash Apr 16, 2013 12:10 PM

              I only notice about three cars that are the "same" in both pictures. Horrors!

              And I would think, if it's the "same" cars parking there every month for 12+hours the meter maids will eventually put a boot on the car....

              Instead of getting mad at the food truck owners, who are bringing people to AK, who may otherwise not go there on a Friday night for various reasons, they should discuss the lack of viable parking and lots with the city. It is a free country, last I looked.

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                ns1 RE: Dirtywextraolives Apr 16, 2013 12:12 PM

                You can't put a boot on a car that pays it's traffic tickets

                and if you look really carefully, every car that is in the "night" picture is present in the "day" picture.

                if you're taking count, I see a green camry, grey camry, red GMC, purple ram, white van, grey hondaish car, another black truck that looks like a tacoma, and the truck beind the tacoma.

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                  bulavinaka RE: Dirtywextraolives Apr 16, 2013 12:34 PM

                  The dirt lot behind Hal's and Intelligentsia has been considered for a parking structure but the cost issue and who's paying for it has who's paying for it has put that proposal on the back burner.

                  Those photos in the link are now standard on Thursday nights/Friday all day on First Fridays. I work in the neighborhood and have seen this parking spot grab strategy evolve over the years to what it is now.

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                    Dirtywextraolives RE: bulavinaka Apr 16, 2013 01:27 PM

                    All the more reason the business owners should band together and petition the city to make some changes. If the brick and mortars can prove their businesses get hurt during the first Friday food truck events, perhaps one of the city lots can be opened up to the trucks, instead of allowing them street parking.

                    Seems like it would be a win-win to me. I'm sure there are some businesses that actually profit when those trucks are there. But it goes without saying that if there is no where for patrons (of store fronts as well as the food trucks) to park, they will go elsewhere.

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                      bulavinaka RE: Dirtywextraolives Apr 16, 2013 03:45 PM

                      Petitioning the city is pointless. All sides are already aware of the issue. LA's city govt is so ineffective on issues like this. Far too many depts to deal with, all with their own agendas.

                      There's also been proposals to expand the width of the sidewalks and turn Abbot Kinney into a one-way street. But the city seems perfectly content - at least for now - generating revenue via parking tickets.

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                        A5 KOBE RE: bulavinaka Apr 16, 2013 04:04 PM

                        Changing city ordinance to a tow away zone would be the easiest and most cost efficient.

      2. A5 KOBE RE: ns1 Apr 16, 2013 11:57 AM

        Are they are least paying the parking tickets? That is the more important issue. Can can they write it off as a business expense?

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          ns1 RE: A5 KOBE Apr 16, 2013 12:01 PM

          My understanding based on dozens of articles is that they do pay off tickets; tickets are written off as a cost of doing business.

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            blimpbinge RE: ns1 Apr 16, 2013 04:13 PM

            Legal expenses paid can only be deducted if it was for the protection of income (For example: Lawyer fees for a lawsuit against a company/individual that is harming your company in some way), but not if it was paying a fine or penalty for doing something illegal.

            Then again.. the numbers may be small enough to go under the radar..

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              ns1 RE: blimpbinge Apr 16, 2013 04:34 PM

              you call it "Legal expense", I call it "Parking expense".

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          andytseng RE: ns1 Apr 16, 2013 12:51 PM

          This has been quietly spreading into every consistently trafficked area, and is one of the reasons I don't support food trucks. IMHO, they don't really care how their presence affects the community, and if a certain neighborhood became less popular, the truck would just pull up stakes and head to wherever is hotter.

          Also, the food sucks.

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            blimpbinge RE: andytseng Apr 16, 2013 04:15 PM

            I went to the Santa Anita Food Truck Fest awhile back.

            Long lines, mediocre food, uncomfortable (or no) seating, high prices, crap service... I don't see the appeal of the new age fusion food trucks at all, and definitely wouldn't purposely go out to find a particular truck. Especially since you can almost always find something comparable in an actual restaurant that tastes better for less money.

            Though I do occasionally stop at taco trucks because they're all over.

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            jgilbert1000 RE: ns1 Apr 16, 2013 12:57 PM

            What is B&M??????

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              westsidegal RE: jgilbert1000 Apr 16, 2013 01:01 PM

              Bricks and Mortar

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