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What do you put in your chicken soup?

ipsedixit Apr 13, 2013 11:44 AM

We all know how to make chicken soup. So that's not really what I'm asking about.

Rather, I'd like to know what you do, or put into your chicken soup to be precise, to make it your own.

We can all pretty much assume that we all start with some sort of stock (or broth) - be it consommé or (gulp!) bouillon or whatever. But then the possibilities are endless from there, right?

Do you add chicken meat?

What about noodles? Or dumplings? Or gnocchi? Or matzo balls?

Some other starch maybe? Potatoes?

Do you add vegetables? Peas and carrots? Corn?

Do you add a sour component like some of the Eastern Europeans appear to do?

In contributing to the Wiki page on chicken soup, it sort of piqued my curiosity as to what 'Hounds think. So, please, do tell.

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  1. hotoynoodle RE: ipsedixit Apr 13, 2013 11:46 AM

    most recently, wakame seaweed, sambal sauce and eggs.

    1. linguafood RE: ipsedixit Apr 13, 2013 12:06 PM

      I'm a bit of a traditionalist when it comes to chicken soup. I also almost never make it unless one of us is sick :-)

      Then I have it and wonder why I don't make it more often.

      I generally cheat by using chicken broth instead of water, and usually just add chicken thighs (skin removed, b/c I don't cope too well with chicken fat, sadly). The only veggies "allowed" are nice fat carrots, leeks, and celeriac -- the latter mostly for flavoring, as I discard the mushy stuff before eating. When the thighs are fall-off the bone done, I take them out, remove the bones and put the meat back in. I always try to skim off a lot of the surface fat.

      Serve over broad egg noodles & with a good helping of chopped parsley.

      1. foodieX2 RE: ipsedixit Apr 13, 2013 12:21 PM

        Usually a little lemon and fresh ginger root for brightness and some kind if hot pepper or red pepper flakes for some heat.

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          sandylc RE: foodieX2 Apr 14, 2013 12:08 PM

          I do this for people who are sick. The ginger is nice for tummies and noses.

        2. Cheese Boy RE: ipsedixit Apr 13, 2013 12:21 PM

          Ipse, I like adding tofu knots to my soup if I want it to be a very satisfying meal. Also ... meat filled tortellini, mini egg bow tie pasta, stelline pasta, or acini di pepe all pair well with chicken soup.

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            grangie angie RE: Cheese Boy Apr 13, 2013 12:40 PM

            Tofu knots ? what are they ? can't picture little knots? of tofu?

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              Cherylptw RE: grangie angie Apr 13, 2013 03:18 PM

              + 2 on the info please...I'm intriqued...

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                ipsedixit RE: Cherylptw Apr 13, 2013 07:28 PM

                These.

                We usually stir-fry them.

                 
                 
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                  Cheese Boy RE: ipsedixit Apr 13, 2013 08:55 PM

                  Yep, that's them ... http://www.flickr.com/photos/30153954...

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            grangie angie RE: ipsedixit Apr 13, 2013 12:24 PM

            matzo balls made with minced parsley and dill(in the matzo batter before it gets firm)also parsley/dill,carrots and celery in the soup,chunks of chicken depending on how much leftover meat I have.I always make the soup the day after I make a roast chicken.

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              tzurriz RE: ipsedixit Apr 13, 2013 12:54 PM

              I make it three different ways:

              As a first course, with matza balls, carrots, parsnips, celery and onion.

              As a main when we are sick, matza balls or noodles, shredded chicken, carrots, parsnips, celery, onion, and garlic.

              As a main when we are well, shredded chicken, potatoes, carrots, celery, onion, garlic, kale (or some other green), and a squeeze of fresh lime juice right before serving.

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                ItalianNana RE: tzurriz Apr 13, 2013 03:57 PM

                tzurriz,

                Yours sounds lovely and a bit more complex than mine. We're pretty set in our ways now, but I'm open to improvements! :-)

                I mourn the loss of matzo balls from my life since the Celiac diagnosis. I used to make small ones and add them to my standard soup in addition to egg noodles. (Now rice)

              2. chowser RE: ipsedixit Apr 13, 2013 12:57 PM

                Yes, too all the above. I've also sound that adding boiled egg yolk makes it rich and creamy.

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                  sandylc RE: chowser Apr 14, 2013 12:10 PM

                  Oh, I will swirl in beaten egg sometimes, too.

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                    chowser RE: sandylc Apr 14, 2013 05:08 PM

                    That's good, too, I should have said I added hard boiled egg yolk, not just boiled egg yolk. I'm not sure how you'd add boiled egg yolks.

                2. goodhealthgourmet RE: ipsedixit Apr 13, 2013 01:27 PM

                  Chicken meat, carrots, celery, parsnips, leeks, garlic, parsley, dill, pepper, lemon juice, & sometimes a touch of fresh ginger.

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                    pine time RE: ipsedixit Apr 13, 2013 01:55 PM

                    My Mr. "requires" me to add chive dumplings, so in they go. In fact, even when we hiked the Appalachian Trail, I even had a campfire version of chicken soup, complete with dumplings.

                    1. PHREDDY RE: ipsedixit Apr 13, 2013 03:32 PM

                      I make old fashioned Jewish penicillin.
                      I make Ecuadorean soupa de pollo
                      I make LA style chicks soup (for my mom)
                      And I make Phreddy Chicken Soup!
                      Depending on the day, it could be a variety...but it always starts with chicken thighs and legs...the most flavor and of course the most fat, kosher salt, black pepper, a chopped onion, a big pot of NYC water with all the additives ....from there anything goes...

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                        ItalianNana RE: ipsedixit Apr 13, 2013 03:53 PM

                        Ipsey-my-souper-soul-mate,

                        I love your soup posts. Chicken soup in my kitchen starts with a mirepoix but medium dice and lots of it, gently sautéed in a wee bit of oil or butter and some homemade chicken stock from the freezer. On the days I make stock, chicken soup is always on the table later. Chicken is either poached in the stock (and removed promptly as I hate that dried out flavorless chicken that you get with over cooking or, horrors, boiling) or I will use leftover roasted chicken. A little thyme is my preferred herb and I use dried for this soup. Since all the work is in the stock making, excellent soup can be put together in no time. It's just stock, carrots, celery, onion or scallions, thyme, my starch (egg noodles or rice depending on who's eating it, chunks of chicken added last and just heated thru, salt and pepper, minced Italian parsley for garnish.

                        We eat it year round and have consumed gallons of it during cold/flu season.

                        Hey Ipsey, what's your best homemade soup?

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                          ipsedixit RE: ItalianNana Apr 13, 2013 07:29 PM

                          Hey Ipsey, what's your best homemade soup?
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                          Chinese oxtail soup.

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                            ItalianNana RE: ipsedixit Apr 13, 2013 07:41 PM

                            Mmmmmmm

                            Love oxtails. Am planning to use them in making broth for my first real attempt at Pho.

                        2. AntarcticWidow RE: ipsedixit Apr 13, 2013 04:07 PM

                          I only make chicken soup when one of us is under the weather. For a single serving I use one chicken thigh into a one quart pot. Cover with water, add a bay leaf, a couple of black pepper corns, some kosher salt, 1/4 of a whole onion, and one jalapeno slit lengthwise about 3/4 of the way up, and a couple of sprigs of cilantro. Then simmer until the meat is tender. When it's ready, I'll through in a couple spoonfuls of cooked rice into the pot.

                          If I'm feeling better, I might stick a clove into the onion and add a couple of baby carrots, a couple of cloves of garlic, and maybe a small fresh tomato cut into quarters. Instead of rice I'll add alphabet pasta cooked separately.

                          1. hannaone RE: ipsedixit Apr 13, 2013 04:09 PM

                            For cooking:
                            Whole chicken. (May be stuffed with whole garlic cloves OR ginseng and jujubes)
                            Garlic.
                            Broth.
                            When served:
                            Chopped green onions, salt, and pepper in the bowl. Place meat, then broth in the bowl. Serve.
                            Anything else becomes chicken and xxx soup.

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                              Querencia RE: ipsedixit Apr 13, 2013 04:15 PM

                              A Polish restaurant here in Chicago serves chicken soup that has had potatoes cooked in the broth until they fall apart (or I have replicated this by mixing mashed potato into the chicken broth) then flavoring it generously with dried dill. The broth should have thickened slightly with the potato.

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                                ItalianNana RE: ipsedixit Apr 13, 2013 04:27 PM

                                Quencia,

                                I do this in other soups. Potato is a great thickener.

                                Has anyone else used egg yolk in their soup for added richness? How do you incorporate it? It sounds great.

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                                  Modz9636 RE: ItalianNana Apr 13, 2013 09:28 PM

                                  I make avgolemono soup, a Greek soup with egg and lemon. You need to tempure the beaten yolks by adding a little hot broth at a time while whisking. Then once the mixture is similar to the soup, pour it into the pot. So tasty!

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                                    ItalianNana RE: Modz9636 Apr 13, 2013 09:38 PM

                                    Modz9636,

                                    I make egg drop soup in a similar way, but without tempering, as you want the little ribbons of noodle-like egg. But, are you using whole egg or just yolk. And does it incorporate smoothly? It sounds really good! Thx :-)

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                                      Modz9636 RE: ItalianNana Apr 13, 2013 10:00 PM

                                      I use just the yolks and once the yolks are tempered and mixed back into the soup, I try not to bring it to a high boil. A simmer is good and the yolk is nicely incorporated.

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                                        ipsedixit RE: Modz9636 Apr 13, 2013 10:09 PM

                                        Interesting. That's sort of like spiking your chicken soup with custard.

                                        Keeping it all in the family. Chicken, egg ... Egg, chicken ...

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                                          Modz9636 RE: ipsedixit Apr 13, 2013 10:46 PM

                                          Eggsactly! I don't put too many yolks, just two or so.

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                                            PHREDDY RE: Modz9636 Apr 14, 2013 04:13 AM

                                            Please stop yolking around!

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                                          ItalianNana RE: Modz9636 Apr 14, 2013 02:49 PM

                                          Modz

                                          Thank you :-)

                                          Now y'all stop eggsagerating the low brow humor!!

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                                    ahuva RE: ipsedixit Apr 13, 2013 07:32 PM

                                    Yes to the chicken meat, and I usually put in some beef as well (marrow bones, bone-in short rib meat), sometimes turkey necks. I add thin egg noodles at the very end. No potatoes, yes parsnip and carrots and celery and onion (onion i usually remove before serving, along with the dill and parsley). No peas or corn, and no sour component (although I have made a sweet-and-sour soup, that is not my chicken soup).

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                                      FriedClamFanatic RE: ipsedixit Apr 13, 2013 09:16 PM

                                      once more...(failed before)

                                      chicken meat, onion, carrots, garlic....often a mirepoix base

                                      Rice or pasta if necessary

                                      and.........a TBS or 2 of peanut butter per serving! Gives it a velvety texture and an "OH this is so good........what IS IT you add?" smile to those that have it

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                                        ItalianNana RE: FriedClamFanatic Apr 13, 2013 09:35 PM

                                        FCF

                                        Well knock me over with a feather! Seriously? Peanut butter in chicken soup? I keep hearing my jar of Skippy whispering..."Come on Nana, you know you want to..." I do. Damn it, I DO!

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                                          Cheese Boy RE: FriedClamFanatic Apr 13, 2013 09:46 PM

                                          Yep, I did that here ... http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/8831...

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                                            FriedClamFanatic RE: Cheese Boy Apr 14, 2013 04:13 PM

                                            It also works to help enliven other insipid canned chicken soups. And to those, when forced to use them, I almost always add some more meat.....and maybe some more veg

                                        2. gmm RE: ipsedixit Apr 14, 2013 02:11 AM

                                          I like the usual, carrots, onion, celery, and sometimes I'll also add a can of diced tomatoes and a handful of pastina.

                                          1. boyzoma RE: ipsedixit Apr 14, 2013 03:57 AM

                                            I make chicken soup so many different ways, it just depends on what we are in the mood for or what happens to be in the fridge.

                                            Regular chicken soup with onions, celery, carrots and noodles (which is the usual base for most of my soups except the noodles)
                                            Zippy chicken mushroom that has hot pepper sauce and tarragon, with heavy cream
                                            Tex Mex Chicken soup that has diced tomatoes, zucchini and ground cumin
                                            Chicken Tortilla soup with beans
                                            Chicken corn chowder
                                            Cream of chicken soup
                                            Chicken Pot Pie soup

                                            1. jmcarthur8 RE: ipsedixit Apr 14, 2013 06:55 AM

                                              Nowadays, the (after the roast chicken) stock usually has a good spoonful of dill in it and a couple of bay leaves, then chicken, tortellini and kale added.

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                                                clamchowderrlambchop RE: ipsedixit Apr 14, 2013 11:13 AM

                                                chicken hearts and/or gizzards really gives the soup flavor. I'd rather not make it if I can't find hearts.

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                                                  sparky403 RE: ipsedixit Apr 14, 2013 01:06 PM

                                                  For Chicken Tortilla Soup I had a big can of refried beans to thicken, (along with whole pintos). Lime and Enchilada sauce.

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                                                    boyzoma RE: sparky403 Apr 14, 2013 02:38 PM

                                                    Wow, never thought of adding refried beans. What a great idea. Thank you for that tip.

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                                                    venushakti RE: ipsedixit Apr 14, 2013 05:58 PM

                                                    normally-mirepoix, a little garlic, dark meat, and a bit of rice. Always make sure to add plenty of celery leaf because thats how my Chilean grandma does it.

                                                    today-sauteed my mirepoix in coconut oil, then poached my chicken leg quarters for about an hour. Took the meat off the bone and returned it to the pot along with a big pile of kale. Seasoned with some Sriracha and ate after about 20 minutes of simmering. Simple and tasty.

                                                    1. queenscook RE: ipsedixit Apr 14, 2013 10:19 PM

                                                      I use a whole chicken, cut into eighths. After boiling that, and skimming the foam, I add carrot, zucchini, leek, parsnip, celery, onion, potato, and a bunch of dill and parsley. Later I add lots of freshly ground pepper and kosher salt. Sometimes I make matzah balls to go along with it.

                                                      I'm surprised so few replies here mention dill; if I have chicken soup made by someone else, and it doesn't have dill, it just tastes wrong.

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                                                        vonshu RE: ipsedixit Apr 14, 2013 10:55 PM

                                                        homemade sauerkraut. the saltiness, acidity, and crunch are the perfect attributes to cut through the relative blandness and mushiness of the rest of the soup

                                                        1. Kris in Beijing RE: ipsedixit Apr 14, 2013 11:42 PM

                                                          My quick/simple chicken soup is the carcass and leftovers from a rotisserie chicken, plus the little bag of stuff from the Asian grocer-- either the dried Korean 삼계탕 Sam Gae Tang mix or the very similar mix for Chinese black chicken, 滋补乌鸡汤 zībŭ wūjītāng.

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                                                            jpc8015 RE: ipsedixit Apr 15, 2013 01:59 AM

                                                            I my house we typicall make a stock from leftover roasted chicken carcasses and freeze it for later use. When the yearning for soup comes we then make a large pot and add onions, celery, carrots, and cubed chicken meat. That is the base of the soup.

                                                            From their we will ladle out the amount of soup we want into a seperate pot and add whatever we like for that serving. Most often this is boiled egg noodles or cooked rice. The noodles or rice has to be cooked before going in the pot or they will soak up all the broth.

                                                            If I am feeling adventurous I will add Bisquick dumplings to the pot, cover and boil.

                                                            1. arthurb3 RE: ipsedixit Apr 15, 2013 03:15 AM

                                                              Depending if you want a tart soup- I add a little white wine vinegar or spicy- a little Siracha!

                                                              1. jpr54_1 RE: ipsedixit Apr 15, 2013 04:43 AM

                                                                Chicken Soup-

                                                                pullet chicken
                                                                dill, parsley,leek,onion,parsley root,celeriac with greens,parsnip,carrots, and 1 small plum tomato

                                                                very little salt/pepper/long pepper

                                                                ppl can and do add more salt to taste

                                                                matzoh balls or goodman's/streits noodles

                                                                1. DoobieWah RE: ipsedixit Apr 16, 2013 03:24 PM

                                                                  Onions, carrots, celery, chicken and spaghetti broken into thirds.

                                                                  That's traditional, right?

                                                                  1. applgrl RE: ipsedixit Apr 17, 2013 06:52 PM

                                                                    A hint of good curry powder. Gives it that je ne sais quoi.

                                                                    1. JMF RE: ipsedixit Apr 18, 2013 09:03 AM

                                                                      I do it several ways. My quick recipe is some store bought chicken broth, and add bite size pieces on skinless, boneless chicken thighs, carrots, celery, and onions. A splash or two of soy sauce for umami, and a squirt of ketchup or tomato paste for more umami. Pepper, sage, rosemary in small amounts. The soy and ketchup usually provide enough salt. I only cook this until the veggies are tender, although my father likes it re-boiled for 20 minutes to make the veggies soft. Some times I throw in frozen peas and corn about two minutes before it's done. I always make this very heavy broth based, lots of liquid to slurp up, the focus is on the broth as much as the meat/veggies. On rare occasions I may add some pre-cooked pasta to the pot a minute before done, but usually the focus is the veggies.

                                                                      I also sometimes make it as above but with small chopped veggies in limited amounts, and make my non-kosher matzo balls. I use regular matzo ball mix and add romano cheese and black pepper to it. Proportions are lots of broth, a little meat/veggies, and a few matzo balls per bowl. Focus is on broth and matzo balls.

                                                                      Then there are the home style chicken soups and stews. Whenever whole chickens or tomahawks (huge leg/thigh quarters) are on sale at my local H-Mart, I buy a ton. I roast them, and cut off the meat, but not all of it. I use the meat for diner, and salads, but save the meat/bones in the freezer. Then when I have 3-4 birds worth, about a packed, gallon zip lock, I roast them until medium/deep brown and make a stock. Tons of water, bring to simmer, and cook 8-10 hours, adding water as needed. No herbs or salt, maybe an onion and some celery to sweeten it up. I let cool, and strain out all the bones and mush. Then I put the stock back in the pot and simmer all day to reduce to a demi-glace. When it is about 95% reduced and is thick enough to coat a spoon I let cool and pour into containers to freeze.

                                                                      I do the same with steak bones, ham bones, duck, turkey, rabbit, etc. Also with the ends of veggies when I prep them for meals. They go in their separate bags in the freezer until a gallon bag is jammed full. So I have a freezer full of containers of different demi-glace. These I use for richer, more full bodied soups and stews, and gravies too.

                                                                      When I make these types of stews and soups, I tend to use some carrot, onion, celery, and then various heavier root vegetables like potato, sweet potato, parsnip, turnip, etc. and they are usually on the thicker, heartier side. Also some times I add rice of some type.

                                                                      1. Servorg RE: ipsedixit Jan 3, 2014 09:46 AM

                                                                        Just made some last night (I peel all my vegetables). Cut up into "bite size" cubes two good sized daikon (Japanese white radish), 3 larger carrots cut diagonally, 3 large stalks celery including the leafy tops, one yellow onion rough chopped and 8 or 9 garlic cloves smashed with the flat edge of my chef's knife. All the vegetables get put into a 2 gal. zip top plastic bag.

                                                                        I mix a cup of sesame oil and a cup of shoyu (soy sauce) with white and black pepper and a generous amount Ajinomoto (Japanese MSG) in another 2 gal. zip top bag and then throw in 6 bone in chicken thighs and let marinade for maybe an hour, turning the bag once or twice.

                                                                        I then transfer the chicken to a large baking pan I line with aluminum foil and pour some of the liquid marinade (not all of the remaining marinade) over the chicken and seal with additional foil and bake at 325 degrees for an hour and 10 minutes.

                                                                        When the chicken is done take out and place the thighs on a cutting board and remove the meat from the thighs. Pour off extra liquid into the bottom of a Dutch over and bring to a low boil and empty vegetables in on top of the left over marinade and stir. then add chicken meat (I add the skin too for more flavor) and add two large containers of chicken stock (I use the organic kosher stock from Whole Foods) and then add a splash of shoyu and let come to a boil over high heat and then reduce to low/simmer and let cook for an hour.

                                                                        I then put on 3 cups of Japanese (short grain) rice to cook in our rice cooker and chop one bunch of green onions which go in a separate bowl.

                                                                        When soup is cooked (about an hour or 1.5 hours - timing is flexible) I add a fair sized scoop of rice to the bottom of our large Japanese ramen style bowls and then a couple of ladles of chicken + vegetable and maybe some additional broth in on top of the rice.

                                                                        We both like to add a pretty good amount of green onions on top and then put on some cayenne and a last splash of shoyu on top of the cayenne and green onions.

                                                                        (If we have it we like to add some Korean style mochi (dduk) to the soup. But don't add too soon or it will totally melt away. Maybe 20 minutes or so before you plan on serving the soup)

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                                                                          EllieS RE: ipsedixit Jan 3, 2014 10:13 AM

                                                                          I like mine with matzah balls from a mix and kreplach (Jewish wontons)

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                                                                            Mediumgoof RE: ipsedixit Jan 3, 2014 10:14 AM

                                                                            When I make it for Passover, matzoh balls made with chopped dill and sometimes a little parsley and/or scallion, and the carrots (whole or cut in half) that cooked in the soup. Otherwise: sliced carrots, egg noodles (or maybe alphabets or orzo), chicken meat added back in.

                                                                            My mom always made dumplings with beef marrow instead of matzoh meal. I've got to get that recipe from her. The broth is also hers -- it includes lemon peel and cloves (which get stuck in the onions). That little hint of clove makes it special to me.

                                                                            1. Bryan Pepperseed RE: ipsedixit Jan 4, 2014 05:50 AM

                                                                              While I still to a "traditional" with lots of veggies on occassion, this is still my usual go to version:

                                                                              http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/6638...

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                                                                                Puffin3 RE: Bryan Pepperseed Jan 4, 2014 06:46 AM

                                                                                I make my own stock and freeze it in Zip locks.
                                                                                The 'mother stock' is only chicken clear broth. No nothing in it except a bit of salt.
                                                                                I like to make 'Tom Ka Gai' soup. You can goggle some variations of it.

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                                                                                INDIANRIVERFL RE: ipsedixit Jan 4, 2014 07:39 AM

                                                                                Large cubes of hard yellow squash. Picked it up in the Caribbean.

                                                                                Keep adding too many things, and to my mind it is evolving into a stew.

                                                                                So here is the recipe from Guana Cay in the Bahamas.

                                                                                Brown chicken skin side down
                                                                                Add whole pepper, salt, sprig of thyme
                                                                                Add chopped onion and celery
                                                                                Add cubed hard squash
                                                                                When onion becomes clear, add fresh water and cover.

                                                                                Bring to simmer, skim, correct salt.
                                                                                Serve with a wedge of lime and a couple of very hot bird chiles.

                                                                                I will not argue with those who will state this is more like chicken water than a soup. But please remember that you are making this in the tropics, and the last thing you want to do is heat up the house making a meal.

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                                                                                  FriedClamFanatic RE: INDIANRIVERFL Jan 4, 2014 09:31 AM

                                                                                  of course, to properly assess your recipe, I'd need an invite down there to sample it............do I need a swimsuit?(lol)

                                                                                2. Atomic76 RE: ipsedixit Jan 4, 2014 03:45 PM

                                                                                  Escarole, so it's borderline wedding soup - but I'm usually too lazy to make the mini meatballs.

                                                                                  I've added turmeric in the past too, to give it that golden color - especially when making home made broth. But a little goes a long way.

                                                                                  There is a chicken stew I make in my pressure cooker, which is just potatoes, chicken thighs, chopped tomato, onion, and a bay leaf (salt and pepper too of course). I don't even add any liquid - the liquid the ingredients give off while cooking is enough, and it keeps the flavor concentrated.

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