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hungree Apr 11, 2013 02:17 PM

to make them more likely to come eat at oakland more often.

Exclude:

Lukas
Haven
Lungomare
Forge
Commis
Flora
Plum

Thinking:

Duende
Miss Ollies
Ramen Shop

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    MagicMarkR Apr 11, 2013 02:28 PM

    Gather, which is in Berkeley, but as long as they're putting themselves out to come ALL THAT WAY :-)

    1. Cynsa Apr 11, 2013 02:41 PM

      Champa Garden for nam kaow
      http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/895828#7979863
      http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/853518

      1. Ruth Lafler Apr 11, 2013 03:02 PM

        Of that list, Miss Ollie's.

        How about:
        Wood Tavern
        Pizzaiolo/Boot and Shoe Service
        Barlata
        Juhu Beach Club

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          jhinky Apr 11, 2013 03:19 PM

          Places in Oakland that I keep going back to -
          Camino, Vientian Cafe, Miss Ollies', and maybe Mua.

          Why the list of exclusions by the way, specifically Plum?

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            hungree Apr 11, 2013 03:22 PM

            just because relevant parties have been there already -- although I will say I enjoyed Haven much more than Plum and am not really itching to go back to Plum. what's good there?

            1. re: hungree
              Robert Lauriston Apr 11, 2013 03:46 PM

              Have you been to Plum since the new chef, revised menu, and furniture makeover? It's a lot more like Haven than it was. I went with a friend who swore he'd never eat at Plum again and he was happy and wants to go back.

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                jhinky Apr 11, 2013 04:47 PM

                Just wondering, I am not that fond of Plum, but it seems to stand out of the list to me as the one I'd not want to exclude. But if your friends have been then that makes sense.
                Funnily my most memorable dinner at Plum was when Kim Alter did these preview dinners for Haven there.

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              JonDough Apr 11, 2013 03:34 PM

              You have a lot of good suggestions already but A Cote might be worth looking at.

              1. Robert Lauriston Apr 11, 2013 03:54 PM

                The back room at A Cote.

                Wood Tavern.

                If the waits don't put you off Ramen Shop and Miss Ollie's, then Dopo or Comal.

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                  rubadubgdub Apr 12, 2013 09:04 PM

                  wood tavern the other night: still really loud heading into 10p, the pork chop came smothered in gravy, ug. safe food. def not if you're trying to endear them to oakland. it's a neighborhood joint for people who can't be bothered to head downtown or sf. only lovable during the no mans land btw lunch and dinner

                  ramen shop is cute, haven't tried the other thoughts. duende is sexy fr the outside but portions/prices remind me of canales @ oliveto. camino is still my fave in oak. try brunch w cocktails.

                  1. re: rubadubgdub
                    Robert Lauriston Apr 13, 2013 10:30 AM

                    For me Wood Tavern is as much of a destination place as any of the places downtown. I've never had the pork chop, and the way it comes smothered in Marsala cream sauce doesn't make it look all that appetizing to me, but the salads, cold cuts, pastrami sandwich, soups, pastas, and bouillabaisse are reliably great.

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                      rubadubgdub Apr 13, 2013 12:03 PM

                      But would you cross the bay to eat there? There are lots of places in SF doing similar food wout the hassle factor. As a neighbor I can never get in unless I plan it. I can't even drink at the bar bc they use it for dining.

                      Of the orig choices I would say duende but more for location. that area is walkable, bartable, and offers many good options.

                      1. re: rubadubgdub
                        Robert Lauriston Apr 13, 2013 12:44 PM

                        I'd cross the bay for Wood Tavern's pastrami sandwich or bouillabaisse. Or for one of their occasional wine dinners.

                        Otherwise, I imagine SF has a few places that offer a similar combination of comfort food, superior execution, informal tavern atmosphere, and fine-dining level service. Range? Serpentine?

                    2. re: rubadubgdub
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                      sundeck sue Apr 13, 2013 11:42 AM

                      Share issues re pork chop + noise re Wood Tavern. But have also had lots of dishes that I've liked there--and when we're looking to eat out in Oakland/Berkeley, it's always at the top of the my husband's list.

                      And we ate @ Camino last night and had a lovely meal, per usual--brilliant vermouth cocktail--baby artichokes from the wood fire + blood orange made a maybe perfect dish--my husband felt the same re his pork--he started w/ a crab + mushroom + wild nettles soup that (to my mind--he was, as usual, more forgiving) had too much going on--and the asparagus + farro + egg main was very good tho a bit pricey ($22) for the components--service was great--and while it was crowded, it felt relaxed and not too loud.

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                    hungree Apr 13, 2013 12:43 PM

                    Well, none of the options were more enticing than the A's game apparently. Friends ended up bailing on Oakland dinner (unless a hot dog at the coliseum counts) so the misses and I just went to try Juhu Beach Club for our first time (report here: http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/8831...).

                    Hope to put this thread to good use in the future, next time we can coax the SFalites across the bridge.

                    1. Windy Apr 14, 2013 05:27 PM

                      Miss Ollie's is wonderful, and there's nothing in the city like it. Plus they finally got their liquor license, so they're serving rum cocktails.

                      1. felice Apr 16, 2013 11:23 AM

                        I've lived in SF for over 10 years but have been living in Oakland just over 12 months. While I agree that SF does not have a restaurant like Miss Ollie's (delicious), I would pick Pizzaiolo for some head to head competition. SF has restaurants that are similar to Pizzaiolo, and imho Pizzaiolo is better than most if not all of their SF counterparts. And generally a few bucks cheaper.

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                          bbulkow Apr 16, 2013 08:20 PM

                          +1 on pizzaiolo. SFers love the underappreciated neighborhood gem.

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                            Windy Apr 16, 2013 08:47 PM

                            Not this San Franciscan.

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                              rubadubgdub Apr 16, 2013 10:16 PM

                              I wouldn't cross the bay either, not given all the good pizza in sf. Plus I've never had welcoming service there.

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                                bbulkow Apr 17, 2013 12:51 AM

                                Wow, I had great service there. Maybe it's because I used I used to be an east-bay-er. Zero Zero feels like a corporate ripoff wasteland in comparison, for example.

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                                  rubadubgdub Apr 17, 2013 10:02 AM

                                  It's one of the few places where I've eaten where I've distinctly had the thought that the server was indifferent to us at best and/or didn't care if we had a nice time or good meal. Attitude is they'd really rather being doing something else. I've been enough times and experienced it from different people that it may be who they hire or a training issue.

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                              hungree Apr 16, 2013 10:21 PM

                              pizzaiolo isn't even better than boot and shoe. sure it's good but why would you cross the bay for a place that has pretty much a duplicate just a few miles away... plus there's great pizza in SF

                              1. re: hungree
                                Robert Lauriston Apr 17, 2013 08:38 AM

                                Boot & Shoe is essentially Pizzaiolo #2, same chef-owner, same style and menu. The original was quieter after the chef took the loud music with him to Boot & Shoe, which to me was an improvement. Both are pretty much the opposite of underappreciated.

                                I like Pizzaiolo but there are a lot of more or less similar places in SF. It has its own style but you'd have to be really into pizza to justify crossing the bridge, and even then I'd suggest trying Dopo first.

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                            Kirk_T Apr 17, 2013 11:01 AM

                            No Korean recommendations yet? I might have overlooked them, but except for Champa Garden, all of the restaurants recommended seem to be western in nature (or something like Ramen Shop with a high profile western background). Don't get me wrong, I like many of the restaurants recommended, but I'd also like to know where I can get as good a soondubu or short rib soup as Pyeongchang, or the variety and quality of banchan of Oghane in SF.

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                            1. re: Kirk_T
                              Robert Lauriston Apr 17, 2013 11:17 AM

                              Generally I've found Korean food in Oakland better and more diverse than in SF, but:

                              http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/898705

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