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mrsjoujou Apr 8, 2013 12:06 PM

Last time we were in NYC from CA, it was two and half years ago and we dined at Le Bernardin, Keste and Maialino for lunch. Locanda Verde, Breslin and Minetta Tavern for brunch. Modern and Scarpetta for dinner.
I guess the Universe does not want us to dine at EMP, because they were renovating the restaurant, last time we were in NYC and my first option for lunch this time would have been there. I was surprised to see they have changed their dining format and now there is only one menu and too costly for this trip. We rather eat big meals at lunch and lighter meals at night and prefer creative, clean food over traditional or rich food. We prefer Italian, French, Greek and creative Asian. I don’t eat birds with the exception of a little Foie Gras.We are staying at the Andaz Wall St in may( wed- mon) and I need your help with the followings:
Brunch
We might go to LV again since last time we really enjoyed the Uovo Modenese and wood Fired Uovo Al Forno. I have searched and searched for days to find a new creative brunch spot and so far I have only come up with Public, Acme and Marrow. I looked at NoMad, Fat Radish, Good, North end grill, Crown, ABC Kitchen, Edie and the Wolf and Lincoln.
Lunch
We have three lunches to fill. I might consider the Per Se Salon menu depending on what is offered that day. Also might consider Le Bernardine’s city harvest menu.
For Italian I have come up with Lincoln, Ai Fiori, Il Buco Alimentari. We have been to Babbo and not interested in Del Posto. if you had to pick one which one?
For creative French I haven’t come up with anything. Most new restaurants are more classic French.
For Greek the new ones are on the pricy side and Loi is only for dinner. Any ideas?
Creative other cuisine – Since NoMad offers the same menu for L and D would you choose lunch or dinner?
Momo ssäm since I don’t eat birds L or D?
Dinner
Alder for sure, the menu looks great
Peral & Ash (Maybe)
Kin shop (Maybe)
NoMad if we don’t go for lunch
Lauro
French Bakery
I have Dominique Ansel, Bosie tea, Bien Cuit, Mille Feuille and maybe Payard.
I like Payard’s Pain Au Chocolat and almond from the LV store and might check it out. MF didn’t get much positive review on this board and the pictures online look OK for a baker that was working at PH. I am not interested in Kayser. Any other ones I missed?
Chocolate
I have been to Kee’s and LMDC and plan to visit this time also. How is Michel Cluizel? I like their bars.
Gelato
We Have Grom and didn’t like L’arte. Any other ones that is not sugary?
Are General pretzel’s bombs any good?
Bakery for bread
I am looking for whole grain or dark European bread. Last time I tried Amy’s and it was fine.
Thank you for reading and I will appreciate any help.

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    kathryn Apr 8, 2013 01:31 PM

    > Last time we were in NYC from CA, it was two and half years ago and we dined at Le Bernardin, Keste and Maialino for lunch. Locanda Verde, Breslin and Minetta Tavern for brunch. Modern and Scarpetta for dinner.

    I would try Motorino on this trip.

    > I have searched and searched for days to find a new creative brunch spot and so far I have only come up with Public, Acme and Marrow. I looked at NoMad, Fat Radish, Good, North end grill, Crown, ABC Kitchen, Edie and the Wolf and Lincoln.

    NoMad for brunch is great, as is ABC Kitchen... I don't see the Spotted Pig, Prune, Clinton St, Shopsin's on your list. My favorite items at Clinton St Baking Co are the blueberry pancakes with warm maple butter, biscuit sandwich with cheddar, egg, tomato jam, and bacon. At Prune I like the dutch baby, deep fried monte cristo, "prune juice" (lemon, orange, lime, and grapefruit). I also really enjoy Joseph Leonard and the other "Little Wisco" restaurants, as well as Blue Ribbon Bakery for brunch. No reservations at any of these.

    I love Shopsin's but it's a quirky menu, quirky service, and don't go if you're easily offended. No picky eaters/substitutions. They don't take your name down, you wait in line.
    http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/825444

    Other places that have good brunch but do take reservations:
    Balthazar
    Union Sq Cafe
    The Dutch

    Good brunch does not necessarily have to be "creative," so I would try to loosen your restrictions.

    Or do something like Empellon Cocina, Momofuku Ssam Bar (weekend brunch has more than weekday since weekday is all-duck), Red Farm, or the new-ish Blue Ribbon Izakaya buffet brunch.

    For a creative take on classic French, look into Montmartre.

    > Creative other cuisine – Since NoMad offers the same menu for L and D would you choose lunch or dinner?

    Depends on the atmosphere. The Atrium is gorgeous and sun filled during the day. The other rooms like the Fireplace and Parlor rooms are cozy at night.

    > Momo ssäm since I don’t eat birds L or D?

    Dinner, since you don't eat poultry, or weekend lunch. These will have the most options for you. Also consider Ma Peche as well, though it is more expensive.

    > I have Dominique Ansel, Bosie tea, Bien Cuit, Mille Feuille and maybe Payard.

    Mille Feuille's plain croissants are excellent. Can't speak to the filled ones. The macarons are fine, but not as good as others.

    I think your list is plenty long, and when you are visiting Bosie Tea Parlor, you can also try the salted caramel goat milk soft serve at Victory Garden, some confections from Royce' who just opened up a Bleecker St location, as well as Sugar & Plumm, who also just opened up at Bleecker St location. Bisous Ciao is also just a few doors down.

    Perhaps also Balthazar Bakery? Their croissant is only OK, but try their sticky bun, chocolate bread, fruit foccacia, doughnuts, etc.

    Maybe Laduree uptown as well?

    > I have been to Kee’s and LMDC and plan to visit this time also. How is Michel Cluizel? I like their bars.

    I think Kee's and La Maison du Chocolat are still our best two. You may also wish to visit Jacques Torres, though.

    Best bread:
    http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/892090

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      mrsjoujou Apr 8, 2013 02:44 PM

      Thank you Kathryn. Sine we want to hit the museums on the weekend I prefer not to stand in the line for brunch. How about Italian?

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        kathryn Apr 8, 2013 07:29 PM

        Joseph Leonard, Shopsin's, and Clinton St Baking Co serve on weekdays, and you could then make a reservation for Balthazar, The Dutch, The NoMad, ABC Kitchen, or Union Square Cafe on Saturday and Sunday.

        For Italian, since you've already done Maialino, Locanda Verde, Babbo, and you don't want to do Del Posto, you should also look into Ciano in addition to Ai Fiori, Lincoln, and Il Buco. It depends what kind of experience you want/how much you want to spend. Why don't you want to do Del Posto?

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          mrsjoujou Apr 9, 2013 10:50 AM

          Thanks. I love Del Posto's dessert menu, but the rest of the prix fixe lunch menu is OK.

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        cubicles Apr 9, 2013 10:05 AM

        Brunch
        We might go to LV again since last time we really enjoyed the Uovo Modenese and wood Fired Uovo Al Forno. I have searched and searched for days to find a new creative brunch spot and so far I have only come up with Public, Acme and Marrow. I looked at NoMad, Fat Radish, Good, North end grill, Crown, ABC Kitchen, Edie and the Wolf and Lincoln.
        >>>I would look into L'Artusi or L'Apicio, both owned by gabe thompson. morandi also does a great brunch. Defintiely keep the Nomad (unless you are going for lunch or dinner) and Acme (IMO the most interesting brunch in town)

        Lunch
        We have three lunches to fill. I might consider the Per Se Salon menu depending on what is offered that day. Also might consider Le Bernardine’s city harvest menu.
        For Italian I have come up with Lincoln, Ai Fiori, Il Buco Alimentari. We have been to Babbo and not interested in Del Posto. if you had to pick one which one?
        >>> If you've already been to Le Bernardin, try Per Se. Also, since you're thinking about it for dinner, Kin Shop has a great 3-course prix-fix lunch. Like Kathryn, I must ask why not interested in Del Posto? It's probably one of my 2 favorite lunches in the city (Jean Georges being the other).

        Dinner
        Alder for sure, the menu looks great
        Peral & Ash (Maybe)
        Kin shop (Maybe)
        NoMad if we don’t go for lunch
        Lauro
        >>> Louro is different and excellent so I'd definitely keep that. For your last dinner, maybe do something lighter, such as pizza (motorino is great as kathryn suggested) or a lobster roll from Luke's

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          mrsjoujou Apr 9, 2013 11:01 AM

          Thank you. I have five dinners to cover, but lighter dinners. Del Posto has been around for a while and I was hoping for something new, and the savory part of the lunch is not as creative as the sweet part.

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          Scott_C Apr 9, 2013 11:17 AM

          [For Italian I have come up with Lincoln, Ai Fiori, Il Buco Alimentari. We have been to Babbo and not interested in Del Posto. if you had to pick one which one?]

          - I'd choose Lincoln. The food at Ai Fiori will remind you of Del Posto. Il Buco Alimentari is simple and rustic and a bit hit-or-miss, in my opinion.

          [For creative French I haven’t come up with anything. Most new restaurants are more classic French.]

          - Have you been to Corton or Jean-Georges?

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            mrsjoujou Apr 9, 2013 01:55 PM

            Thank you. I might go with Lincoln for Italian, since I have read some OK reviews for AF. I considered Corton last time we were in town, but I was not crazy about the restaurant's interior look. The menu is great and I probably can ask them to sub the squab for something else, but I was hoping for a lunch menu. I am interested in Lafayette also if they open up next week.

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