Where can I find good pizza in Dallas?

Hi all!
I've just discovered this web site and its for me! I have just moved to Dallas and really miss a good pizza pie. The best I have found so far is in Carrolton, a place called Alfredo's.
I would be particularly interested in a good deep dish style pizza place.
Thanks for your help
-Capn' A

[eqqalized]

Want a good foldable NY style slice...check out market street grocery...they sell slices cheap...foldable...NY style...I was shocked...went to one in. McKinney ....delicious. you won't regret it it.

[earwit]

Deep Dish is not pizza, it's pie

Would you believe the Pizza at Whole Foods is to die for

[wompa164]

I went to the new Mama's Pizza in Keller and it was EXACTLY as I remembered it from my childhood. Definitely one of the best pizzas in Dallas though don't ask me to qualify it...

[J.R.]

ah Mamma's Pizza. Being raised in Carrollton circa 1978....I hear ya. I'm going to have to make the trek to Keller to give it a Nostalgia Spin.

[jessicaclark]

Transplant from Atlanta, any pizza like this, http://shortys-pizza.com/dinner-menu/, in or around Dallas?

[JuanG180]

For years I've always been partial to Gordo's if I was in Dallas. I also like the pizza at Cliff's at Stacey's Furniture in Grapevine. They make NY style pizza, however, they just need to learn how to cut it right. It's now sliced like a pie, but sliced in square's. I like to eat at UNO's in Ft worth. It's Chicago style. The original UNO's in Chicago was created by a guy from Texas. Go figure it.

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Gordo's Restaurant
8220 Westchester Dr Ste C, Dallas, TX 75225

[BellaDonna]

I tried Pizza by Marco (on Preston and Royal) this week and was not impressed. The crust was super thin which I like; however, the sauce reminded me of the smell of vomit (probably due to the high acidity content that you can also taste)

My favorites as of now:
1. Campania (Dallas location is the best, Southlake location too inconsistent)
2. Louie's (hate the environment but pizza is damn tasty)
3. Olivella's (good pizza but too frufru)

Dislikes:
Il Cano Russo (I've had authentic Neopolitan pizza before in NYC and it was light years better than this)
Cavelli's (not impressed with the pizza or the serve yourself environment)
Grimaldi's

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Pizza by Marco
14999 Preston Rd, Dallas, TX 75254

[twinwillow]

Try the new San Antonio based, "Dough" in Preston Forest's north/west strip.
Although personally, I prefer Il Cane Rosso's pizza, Dough offers some dishes no one else does.

[Veggo]

Tough grader! You are critical even of your 3 favorites? I went to Cavalli's in Irving for lunch Friday, on the net favorable recos here, my first pizza in my 6 months in Dallas. I'm from New Haven, land of the Holy Pizza Grail, so I didn't know what to expect, but I give it a high pass. I had the clams casino pie.

[twinwillow]

Cavelli's, although I've not been there yet, enjoys an almost cult like following by it's customers. They must be doing something right.

[Veggo]

Three of us went to Cavalli's (no 'e') early at 11:15. When we left an hour later, there was not an empty table, and a 20 foot line to order. First time ordering was a little confusing. The 13 inch, approx. $12 pizzas seem like more than an individual order, the larger $18 appeared about right for two. We ended up each quickly ordering a $12 one as the queue grew behind us. We each ate our whole pie. The individual pies seemed to be the norm, looking around the room. Salads looked good. Crust was not New Haven standards, but OK. Clams on the pie were of course not fresh, nor did I expect them to be. I'll definitely go back- at shoulder hours. (And I live a mile away!)

[CocoaNut]

Just an FYI - Cavalli's has a location in McKinney with wait staff and wine! By comparison to the Irving location, McK's is hugely upscale - same great pizza!

[gdubfosho]

I made an account specifically to reply to this thread.

I don't understand how Piggie Pie's on lovers/greenville, Extreme Pizza at Preston Center and Serious Pizza in Deep Ellum haven't been talked about.

Since my buddy lives in the village and we hang out over at his place occasionally, Piggie Pie's is a must. Very good go to Pizza. I also work near it so we get it delivered occasionally - I work with a bunch of guys that eat a lot of food and like good food, everyone agrees this is the best go to pizza spot in Dallas. I keep it simple with a Sausage/Pepperoni, they have a small interior restaurant and a good special, 2 slices and a drink for 6 dollars - this should fill you up.

Extreme Pizza has the worst name of all time. Their pizza is REALLY good. They have a thin crust and use obviously quality ingredients. This and Piggie Pies are both really greasy fat boy pizza - no NEO here. Yes it's very greasy, but it's also really good.

I haven't been to serious pizza but apparently it's pretty serious.

Farnatchi is awful - I live next door to it and took my ex there one night, neither of us liked anything about it plus it's in a shopping center - not very romantic - she had the "pizza"

Fireside pies is pretty good, I like their pepperoni.

Urban Crust is okay - if I'm getting pizza in Plano it's Covino's. Covinos is really good, I haven't had it in years though.

Campisis is pretty terrible.

Pizza by marco is also really delicious. Extreme Pizza is the same type of pizza, but far better. (I really hate saying that a place with such a terrible name has such good pizza - trust me).

I grew up on Mama's pizza, their lunch buffet is good, their pizza is above average.

I've never had a deep dish that I liked. Never had a real chicago pizza either - sauce on the top, cheese on the bottom.

If I think of any more pizza spots I'll update. But everyone needs to try Piggie pie's and Extreme Pizza.

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Extreme Pizza
6112 Luther Ln, Dallas, TX 75225

Urban Crust
1006 E 15th St, Plano, TX 75074

[pappy97]

Funny you say you are shocked not see those mentions, I am shocked not to see very many mentions of Cavalli's in Irving and McKinney, especially given they are VERIFIED to have authentic Italian (Naples style) Pizza. It doesn't get any more authentic (or better IMHO) than Cavalli's.

[twinwillow]

Personally, I think Fanatchi's pizza is actually, not bad. I usually get the one with the Turkish spices. Sure, it 's no Cavelli's, Dough, or my personal favorite, Il Cane Rosso but, Farnatchi's pizza is better than a lot of others.

[rdcole]

Rosati Pizza McKinney - One of the few Deep Dish places in the metro area.

[pappy97]

For authentic NY style pizza, I am surprised no one has mentioned Franki's Pizza and Pasta in on Marsh Ln (Marsh and Forest). When my wife really wanted authentic NY style pizza we went on a mission, and once we found this place, she said it was exactly what she was looking for. Anybody else eaten there?

[Veggo]

You guys have been a great resource to this 80 day Dallas newbie - sushi, chile rellenos, cheese shops, jewish delis, La Mansion, Mesa, my 'hood, Lucia, ...now ...pizza, my next quest.

Any chance of finding a pierogi in onions and butter, or am I pushing the envelope?

[twinwillow]

Try the European Market and Deli on Forest Lane just east of Office Depot and just west of Central a few doors east of Chipotle across Forest Lane from Medical City.
It's a small place so, If you blink, you'll miss it.
It's owned by a lovely Polish family and they all work there. All the (best in Dallas) cold cuts are brought in from Chicago. Their stuffed duck salami is unreal. They also have a small restaurant in the market and their pierogi as well as their stuffed cabbage are specialties of the house.

[lizpdfb]

Having grown up in New York and Boston, when I moved here in 1997 I made a religion out of finding good pizza here.

I do not like Louie's, Campisi's, etc because I do not like those cracker thin crusts.

I have searched for good deep dish here, but have never been blown away.

The best New York style pizza I have had are Vito's in Highland Village and Carmine's in Lewisville. I believe they have locations in Dallas, as well. These are your typical, inexpensive pizza joints.

If you don't mind shelling out more money for high end, slicker places, then you cannot beat Campania, Grimaldi's and Olivella's. Coal Vine's is very good, but just a tad below.

For authentic, delicious Neopolitan pizza, Cavalli cannot be beat. There has been a lot of buzz about Il Cane Rosso, but I haven't been, yet.

[twinwillow]

IMHO, Il Cane Rosso has them all beat! Their pizza tastes exactly like the pizza I've eaten in Naples, Italy.
Love the authentic "Regina Margherita" with bufala mozza

[kgentile1010]

Hi,

I haven't seen anyone mention Boston Bar Room Pizza. This is Greek Pizza that's cooked in Pan. It's small about 12 inches with a thin crust, almost no edge and uses a mix of moz/cheddr/monterary Jack cheese.

Anything like that down here?

[dfwtexex]

For traditional NY style pizza, I go with Neo in Victory Park. It's the best I've had in Dallas. For individual, more gourmet style pizzas, it's Nova down on Davis St. Perfect crust. For eating a lot of pizza and drinking beer, it's Eno's. Their crust is cracker thin and you can just keeping eating away without getting pizza full. Plus the toppings are fresh and interesting.

[Goobercat]

Had lunch today at Jay Jerrier's new "brick and mortar" restaurant, Il Cane Rosso. All other pizza joints in Dallas pale in comparison.

[dontwastecalories]

I grew up on Marco's at Preton-Royal and still adore it, but living far from them, I end up at Eno's in Bishop Arts, Campania on McKinney. or Sal's ( when I want just a slice like nyc corner grocers)

[masnole]

Ok - So I'm a native NY'er and new to Dallas....family (mom's side) from Naples and I'm pretty darn picky on pizza - including making pilgrammeges for outstanding pies when I travel (e.g. Pizza Bianco in Phoenix...as one example). .

I agree with all the recs about Grimaldis - had lunch yesterday there in fact. Good Pie.

Found a gem this weekend in McKinney. Place called Cavallis - they try to adhere to the Napoletana pizza authenticity guidelines. Very good. Definitely will go back there.

http://anticapizzeria.net/vpn/

http://www.cavallipizza.com/mckinney

[garfix]

Isabella's on the corner of Marshall and Carrier in Grand Prairie is a dump for atmosphere. It's in a strip mall that looks like it's abandoned, the dough maker is out with the tables and the tables and chairs are not exactly "new". That said, this is the best pizza I've had in the D/FW area in the ten years I've been here. I grew up on the Jersey Shore near Belmar, where we had some of the best pizza in the US...Pete and Elda's, Vic's, Vesuvio's, etc. Isabella's is the kind fo pizza you'd get in a sub and pizza shop in New Jersey and is the closest thing to home we've had yet. Isabella herself only makes the pies on Fridays now, when they're the best. Problem is that they'll be closing soon for good, so get there fast if you can.

Yes, I've tried Campisi's and...."WTF"....someone really considers that good pizza?

[JuanG180]

If you're wanting some good Chicago Pizza try Uno's in Fr. Worth. It's in Sundance Square.

[compcards]

Damn hard to find a good pie in this town...right now my favorite is the deep dish (not the stuffed) at Chicago Street Pizza in Plano (Coit & Hedgecox)..."Try it you'll like it"

[Mike Bledsoe]

Best Pizza in Dallas by The Dallas Observer
http://www.neopizzeria.com/

This place is awesome. Thin Neapolitan style pizza with fresh mozzarella. I would highly reccomend this place.

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Neo Pizza
2340 Victory Park Ln, Dallas, TX 75202

[itsjustme0770]

Not sure how Bryan Street Tavern hasn't been mentioned. Think Louie's but way better.

[DallasDude]

Both Bryan Street and Elbow Room have very good pizzas.

[ronaldpedwards]

Let me preface this by saying I am a misplaced New Yorker (Born in Brooklyn) but when it comes to pizza, I like New York and Chicago style equally.
Jimano's in Plano was very good when we visited. Reviews on Urbanspoon seem mixed but we tried both deep dish as well as Chicago thin crust (and I was with an ex Chicago Cop) and we loved them both. So far, the bext pizza I have had in the metro.
http://www.jimanos.com/locations_Plan...

[CherylA]

Urban Crust in Old Town Plano. Just divine! make sure you get the comp grilled bread strips with chopped olive and tomato toppers. Wood fired, thin, classic. Very tasty.

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Urban Crust
1006 E 15th St, Plano, TX 75074

[luniz]

Yeah I got to try Urban Crust today, I had the Margherita. Very good pizza, great crust, very high quality toppings, not too much, not too little. I look forward to comparing it to Il Cane Rosso.

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Urban Crust
1006 E 15th St, Plano, TX 75074

[CocoaNut]

I ate at Grimaldi's a couple of weeks ago for the first time. I've always admired West Village from watching it's inception though reality while working at City Place. So, I love the "place" called Grimaldi and I thoroughly enjoyed the minimal pizza toppings of my choosing, but the crust....... it was just too stiff and dry - like cardboard? And that from someone who demands that a pizza crust stand up to it's toppings. After all the hoo-ha that I've read, I was most disappointed.

That said, service was wonderful and friendly and at someone's else's urging I wouldn't hesitate to return. Chatted with the manager who told me they are in the process of securing a location in Grapevine. From what he said, sounds like they may be eyeing the old Tias (Mexican) building - really nice patio!

Let the bashing begin.

[DallasDude]

Visited the Grimaldi's on McKinney in Uptown last evening, and shared a pie with a few buds and had a few (more than) beers. Very good pizza. Thin, coal ovens, and incredible toppings. I didn't really inspect it much till later, but looked to have fresh mozzarella dollops, which I am a fan of.

Check out the fantastic crust. Top 3 places for pizza in Dallas for sure. Chain, but a good one.

a youtube making of the pie at Grimaldi's. Notice how there is not a huge smattering of sauce, and the fresh mozz is really the star of the pizza:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qb8w5K...

[CricketTX]

Louie's in Dallas or Mama's pizza in Fort Worth.

[volleyballgirl]

Louies is my favorite pizza in Dallas, TX. Service is blah but the pie is rocking. Campania off Blackburn is another great place! For bar pizza check out Elbow Room on Gaston...not bad at all!

[candacebossay]

Tradewinds Social Club is a dive bar in North Oak Cliff (Hampton & Davis) that has the best thin crust pizza. The owners have the crust dough custom made from Oak Cliff Pizza using their own recipe. About 15 toppings are available - the pizza is unbelievably cheap, absolutely delicious, out in about 6 minutes (just enough time for 1 shuffleboard game). My friends in the Cliff cannot go more than a week without a fix of their pizza. Warning - if you like wine with your pizza you may want to switch to something else - they are often out of the 1 jug wine they keep behind the bar. If not though you can get a mug (yes, mug) for $3.

[dfwdean]

Friday's after 4pm only, pick up one of four good pizzas at Eatzi's for $10 each.

[DallasDude]

Damn good pizzas made at the bar at Popolos at Preston Royal. They basically make the pie in front of you in a giant coal oven. In the winter its nice to sit near it, summers can be hell. It is completely at the bar and not in the kitchen. Great toppings and sauce. Crispy thin and greatness.

[DallasDude]

Last chance at Popolo's. I was there tonight as the news was handed to them... Saturday is the last day of business. I encourage anyone to go for their delightful pizza. They will make pretty much anything as far as ingredients, even if not on menu. Sad day. I will be there Saturday night to pay respects.

[air]

I've dumped Maestro's from my rotation because they just keep getting worse. I don't know what happened, they used to have great crust, now it's pretty bland and boring. It tastes very plain and watery, the closest comparison I can think of is Italian Cafe in Las Colinas (and I'd only go there if I'm -very- desparate for a pizza). Back I go to Pastazio's in Addison.

I agree with Carmine's for those of you in Richardson and they have a well-priced lunch special, wish I'd known about it while I was still at UTD.

Also I've heard Luigi's is back in business and hopefully ownership has not changed hands.
http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/398436
They're near Love Field on Mockingbird.

[fitterhappier]

A couple that haven't been mentioned in Dallas (East of 75) that we enjoy frequently:

Scalini's - Rectangular, thin crust and cut a la Louie's/Campisi's. Excellent taste and Great Pasta as well.

Cigarz Bona - Round pies with a thicker, chewy crust. Pick-up only but worth the drive!

Greenville Ave Pizza Company - Huge slices, thin crust with light sauce/heavy cheese. Excellent seasoning on the side. These guys deliver (within 3 miles) until 3AM on weekends.

Prego's - Rectangular, pie with generous toppings but with thicker crust than Louie's. Pick-up only. Try dining in as well, all of the food is great. Bring a jacket though .. it can get cold.

Bryan St. Tavern - These guys are quickly making a name for themselves. Great rectangular pie with generous toppings and great beers on tap. Awesome place to watch a football game.

Lover's - Underrated. Especially if you dine-in and get a slice. Very good right out of the oven.

Divino's - If you are looking for the cheapest, dirtiest hangover pizza in the city, this is the place for you. Dripping with cheese and $5 for a large pie, you will be sleeping on the couch in no time.

Louies and Marco's are my favorite pies, rectangular and round respectively, in the city, although we rarely go to Louie's anymore on account of the service. Coal Vines is also very good and is my wife's favorite, on account of the atmosphere. I avoid Campisi's and Fireside Pies if possible.

If you are going to be in North Dallas (North of 635), you can't go wrong with either Sal's or Carmine's. In Addison, Pastazio's is very good but a bit on the doughy side. In Plano, Angelo & Vito's.

[irodguy]

Tried http://ferrarispizzeria.com/ last night for dinner. We had the Pizza by the slice. It's worth trying. Do I think it's best in DFW nope, but it's worth being in my regular rotation top 10 list.

[taldeac]

Thanks for the recommendation. All my favorites are close to downtown so it is nice to have a recommendation further north.

[missbling]

Ok, having just perused all of the aforementioned replies, I am quite astonished at the complete and utter disregard for some of the more excellent pizza choices. Judged solely on the basis of pizza, not considering price, ambience, or other special considerations, the choices are quite clear:

Coal Vines
Mama's Pizza (you must venture into the 817 to obtain this delightful treat)
Grimaldi's Pizza
Brother's Pizza

Respectfully submitted, with all due respect to previous postees,
Miss Bling and Mr. VIP

[dalputter]

I Love Pizza Villa @ 75 and Beltline. Crispy Thin Crust, Great Fresh Toppings and BYOB. They are closed on Sun and Mon though.

[J.R.]

Miss,

I don't disagree, though the Mamma's entry is interesting. Now, I must admit, I'm a product of Mamma's Pizza from my youth. I grew up in Carrollton and had one at the corner of Josey and Beltline and it was the destination for all after sports parties, Jr. high girl chasin, High School slobbishness. How has it held up over the years? It's probly been 15 years or so, since I've had one.

[LewisvilleHounder]

There is a Mama's Pizza in Plano

[DallasDude]

Had lunch at Gordos today, quite tasty. This crust adorned with a flavorful sauce and welkl appointed toppings. I tried a few other items while there, and truly loved the eggplant parm. I noticed a sandwich board for the place next door had seafood crepes as a special, and I jokingly ordered those as well, and they said they would be happy to make them for me. Wow. I didn't take them up on it but nice to know that service of that caliber still exists. We were greeted by the owners and they wished us a delightful weekend and thanked us for our patronage. I will be back.

Good pizza.

[snatex]

Angelo & Vitos Pizzeria
4520 Frankford Rd
Dallas, TX 75287
[phone]

Very good NY pizza and excellent tiramisu and cheesecake.

[air]

Have you been there recently? I've had a bunch of inconsistent experiences there. Sometimes the pizza is good, sometimes it's awful.

[irodguy]

More common awful. We stopped going. It's better to go out of the way to Roma or Gramaldi's. There cheesecake is just okay. For pretty good cheesecake Covino's in Plano does a much better job. Of course on the other hand it's just super easy to make a cheesecake but that's another thread.

[snatex]

We had it last week and really liked it. That was the first time I've had it though. So maybe we just got lucky. We had the Mama Mia, which had some really good toppings. The tiramisu was awesome. The turtle cheesecake was not as good as the tiramisu but solid nonetheless.

[down73]

I can't believe that nobody has mentioned Salvatore's New York Pizza in Irving. Sal makes the best pizza that I have ever had in my entire life. He used to run New York Pizza and Pasta in Valley Ranch and that's when I became addicted. When he left, the pizza there wasnt nearly as good. Luckily, I found his new shop off Walnut Hill in Irving. I have taken everyone I know to Sal so they can see for themselves. Best pizza ever.

One cool Sal story. I was craving anchovies one day and went in and told him just that. He asked if I wanted him to throw some on a few slices and I asked him which of the prepared pizzas he thought that they would be best on. Without hesitating, he asked me if I trusted him. Well of course I do because the guy is a pizza master. So I told him yes and he offered to make me the pizza that he makes for himself when he wants anchovies. That thing was incredible and it looked like a painting. Needless to say, anytime I get a jones for some anchovies, I go see Sal. Actually, that dude has ruined all other pizza places for me. He makes most other places taste like a 99 cent totino's frozen pizza.

[air]

Maestro's recently opened up at Belt Line and Spectrum in Addison (near the Improv).
http://www.maestrospizza.com/

I've been going there a lot since the drive's much closer than going to Luigi's and the menu is bigger. Easily beats out Pastazio's in Addison Circle. I think they use Lisanti cheese, it's quite stringy, but I'll have to verify with the owner for sure. They sell NY style pizza by the slice as well as calzones, pasta, and various desserts like cannoli and tiramisu. If you order by the slice, the pieces are huge since they come from a 22" pizza. They stay open until the wee hours of the morning, even past when the Improv and Pete's closes.

On that note, Maestro's cannoli is good too... think I'll have to start doing some investigating on who's got the best in town.

[Purrkins]

If you don't mind firing up a pizza in your oven at home, I can highly recommend Papa Murphy's. I've been very impressed with the quality and quantity of their ingredients and toppings. Much, much better than any other chain-pie out there, as far as I'm concerned. BTW, you don't NEED a pizza peel, but it makes the cooking a lot easier, and it's handy to have around. Follow their directions for cooking, they've got it right. Great concept - wish I'd thought of it...
=<^..^>=

[DallasDude]

You know guys, the whole Louie's thing just gets me down. Took a nice group of friends there today, and the waitresses just go out of their way to be horrid. I am not sure why. Perhaps it is the whole Food Network ordeal. they are more crowded now than ever. More old ladies giggling about the program.

We went in and were as kind and fast at ordering as possible. We were even the first to arrive today (Sundays they open at 5:30). We ordered as asked when asked. Our food came out staggered. A few of the ordered were one hour late! I just simply don't get it. But i have washed my hands of this place.

We did ask for the hockey game to be put one and were told only the bartender could do that, and she wasn't about to ask. Perhaps we were punished for that?

I must say, and I know there are detractors, Campisi's just does it the best.

Food wise, pizza is a great thin crackery crust,extremely light on toppings, sauce is tasty and home made. Crab claws are greatness. The clams casino were wretched and probably a boxed stuffing in a clam shell. Do they even know what clams casino consists of? It sincerely was a stuffing mix in a clam shell and no sign of a clam or bacon or anything related to the renowned recipe. One ordered a calzone and it was inedible. They shouldn't serve that dry wretch.

On top of all that, we paid in cash like the good patrons they wish us to be, and the waitress ran out after us saying we shorted her. She counted the money three times in the parking lot before realizing she had a half way decent tip and all her tab despite the killer bad service.

I have been to Louie's maybe a dozen times, but today was my last venture.

[Scagnetti]

What an awful experience. This place thrives in spite of themselves.

I've never been a fan of their pizza.

[Brad2]

I wish they would add the ability for posters to make polls!

[LewisvilleHounder]

I would agree with that and would welcome polls

[jindomommy]

Louie's and Campisi styles seem really similar to me. It's like eating a rice cake with marinara and cheese. I'm so hungry afterwards and their pies just don't hit the spot. I don't understand all the hoopla. The dough at both places tastes like they got it from Sysco. I would be surprised if it was homemade. The cheese is just standard and none of the toppings strike me as that great. When I eat at Lombardi's in NYC or Grimaldi's, every ingredient tastes fresh and delicious to me, right down to the pepperoni. Also, for a pizza place to pass muster with me, they have to do a great pepperoni, sausage with fresh mushrooms (canned is a total dealbreaker) with sweet onions. None of this pear of nut stuff on my pizza...not unless I'm eating with Peter Rabbit. And while I thought the pizza in Italy was good, it was very flatbread and thin like...very much like Eno's. I have a hard time putting those types of pizzas in the same category as most pizzas. They are a totally different breed. They say that the Italians invented pizza, but that New Yorkers perfected it. Don't know if that's true, but I like some heft to my pizza. Grimaldi's still gets my vote.

[DallasDude]

Could not disagree more with the Sysco statement as it would pertain to Louie's or Campisi. Where as I am not a huge Louie's fan (more to do with wretched service and general asinine behaviour on the part of the staff than anything), I humbly lay before any willing taster a large sausage and onion from Campisi and compare to the odd, thick and often off-tasting crust that I know Sysco sells (ahh DallasDude has owned restaurants and been to far too many food shows and sampled these first hand). These type of crusts generally go out to hotels and resorts in my estimation. It would not pay a small server to use such an expensive item. It can be found in the Sysco catalog under their own brand name 'Arrezzio'.

For a look at what one of these aberrations would look like, I provided a link for one of their providers: http://www.rizzutofoods.com/

[twinwillow]

Just what is it with the staff at Louie's? They all SUCK!!!!!!!! Is rudeness part of their staff behavior training?

[simply_victoria]

I just had a conversation with a friend last night about Louie's. We both like the pizza. I asked her if she had any issues with the staff. She answered like I would. No. They aren't going to be your best friend. They serve you drinks and pizza.

[theannealator]

Fireside Pies I think is the best, theres one on knox-henderson, one on lemmon, and one in gvine. They are fire cooked pizza aand is awesome. you can pick them up until 12 midnight.

[DallasDude]

To the original post, I have been going to Alfredo's since I was a child, and LOVE their pizza. Overall a nice neighborhood Italian joint, nothing major for the foodie, but good.

As far as Campisi's goes, I am addicted to it. Just has a flavor profile and mouth-feel I enjoy. I can hardly say that it is anywhere to be seen, at least not anymore. I cannot remember the last time I have seen a mile long long out the door for a table. Wait, I do! It was in the 80s and I was shot in the head going back to my car that was parked in front of the Radio Shack. No joke. I was not badly injured but offered free pizza for life. Why do I still pay?? BTW they DO take credit cards.

For a similar pie, the cousins of Campisi's own the i Fratelli. I find that very similar... almost.

Louie's is greatness and you can see the segment from Diners and Drive-ins for a behind the scenes look. http://tr.youtube.com/watch?v=2sr2Pvl...

I have been to the Mama's mentioned and liked that as a child, but haven't been back in recent history. And the Two Guys From Italy makes a nice pizza. But I really like my pie thinner.

I am thankful to hear there is a Brother's left in town... note to self....

[dejacobs]

We tried Farnatchi's Pizza last night (their first night open!) in Addison at Beltline and Marsh. Outstanding... In-house made dough and sauce, premium toppings. New York style. Really big flavor. Calzone was great too!

We ordered our pie's takeout, so that fact that they're still sorting out the lights, decor and signs did bother us. We'll definitely be back again next week.

[dugout19]

Based upon both this feedback and its proximity to my work, I decided to give Farnatchi's a try tonight. I ordered a takeout Margherita pizza.

The time it took to prepare the pizza gave me the chance to chat with the proprietor and I heard the same story as dejacobs that they make their own dough and sauce, ground their own toppings, etc.

However, upon closer inspection they revealed that they get their cheese from the same Roma distributor that services so many average Italian restaurants. Despite the proprietors claim that they tasted many cheeses before settling on their premium cheese blend, I suspected the cheese would not be premium. When you take your ingredients from a mass distributor you will not have quality ingredients. The final product confirmed my suspicions, the cheese was not exceptional, in fact, it was forgettable.

The next danger sign was the "oven". They do not have a pizza oven. Instead, they use what looks like the same toaster oven that the previous occupant, Quiznos might have used. There is a conveyor belt that takes the pizza through what I heard was a 485 degree heat. There is no way that quality pizza is made by passing the product under a glorified heat lamp and the final product proved the point.

While the final product was better than the local mega-chains but it didn't hold up to its claims of being mostly homemade. The crust was uneven, no doubt due to the cooking method. The cheese was mostly tasteless. The sauce, touted as being homemade, made my nine year old comment that it was pasta sauce. It did not have the taste of homemade. The crust was not distinctive. It was relatively thin but it wasn't crisp or notable in any other fashion.

Long story short, Farnatchi's is preferable to Domino's or Papa John's and their ilk but it doesn't hold a candle to Cavali, Campania, Eno's, or even Fireside Pies.

[teegee]

dugout19, that's a nice report - lot of good information. thanks

[frognot]

5th street Pizza in Allen has great St. Louis style pizza. The Mighty Meaty is great.

http://www.5thstreetpizza.net/

[gibber2952]

The best best pizza in Dallas is Olivella's in Snider Plaza (McFarlin) --- In fact, this is better pizza than I have had anywhere

[kingofkings]

Jims off University in McKinney is REALLY good pizza, and Pizza Villa in Richardson of 75 is the BEST Pizza I have eaten in the DFW area.

Try them both! Both are privately owned pizza joints that have been around a while.

[irodguy]

Then you need to eat at goodfellas in Carrollton http://www.goodfellas.com/. Their smoking goodfella is great!

[taldeac]

I also can't help too much with deep dish, there was a place off Knox and 75, Vinny's that had a decent deep dish but they ave closed.

My favorites are Louies, Coalvines, Fireside Pies, Grimaldis, and Campisis probably in that orderwith the first 3 being a ways ahead of the last two but the last two being good in their own right.

I hate Olivella's, we went there on a recommendation and had the worst restaurant experience we have had in the last 5 years. Probably one of those instances where everything that could go wrong did, but I have no desire to ever go back.

There is a new place in Bishop Arts that people say is good and I have also heard many good things abount Campania but have never been.

Louies is my favorite.

[CocoaNut]

Southlake > If you get the smaller lunch size pizza w/salad (M-F) at Campania's it is truly exceptional; thin crust, lightly crisped across the bottom with fresh aromatic toppings. However, ordering one of the larger pizzas has repeatedly been a dissapointment. On multiple visits, the center most part of the pizza is always soggy - even after bringing past experiences to the servers attention at the time of ordering. I've vow not to go back unless the lunch size is available. The same hold true for Coalvines (SL) and Cavallis (Irving). Maybe the soggy middle is just a characteristic of the wood burning ovens.

That said, in all 3 cases, once you get past the soggy middle, the remainder is probably one of the best I've ever eaten in both taste and quality of ingredients.

[David Pearlman]

The soggy middle is one of those things you generally have to live with if you want a large pie. The greatest pizzas I know are in Brooklyn and New Haven, and they all suffer from the same thing. I think it's a byproduct of the high heat that the ovens in the great places use. At the edges, where the ratio of exposed surface area to overall pie is the greatest, things would get burned if you waited long enough for the middle to cook completely. The classic example for me is Totonno's in the Coney Island section of Brooklyn. I used to watch my pie go into the oven and come out again about three and a half minutes later. Lower temperatures get rid of this problem but don't give you the same fantastic outer crust.

[ljblackbird]

Recently moved back to Dallas after 10 years away. Before I left, there was a -wonderful- place on Lower Greenville with probably the best pizza I have ever had. Problem is ... I can't for the life of me remember the name of the place! It was a couple of blocks south of the Whole Foods in that area, on the same side of the street. It was kind of a bar with an Italian-ish menu, but wonderful thick pizzas. I drove over there, but it looks like it may have closed or (hopefully) moved somewhere else. Does anyone remember this place and could give me any hints on it's name?

[Jayzee]

Could it have been Gordo's? If so, there still is a location on Lovers. Louie's gets my vote.

[ljblackbird]

Gordo's! That's it! Glad to hear that it's still on Lovers. Will definitely have to be over there to get my fix! My taste buds are watering already!

Thanks so much!

[gavlist]

sorry to say... but they closed a while ago. Strange that their website is still active, but the location on Lover's where they used to be is a bank now.

[twinwillow]

Gordo's is still in business. I just forgot where they moved to. But, I know they are still Park Cities!

[LewisvilleHounder]

Gordo's is now behind Sammy's BBQ in Preston Center....next to Tramontana. I used to work in the Colonial Bank building at 8214 Westchester Dr. So it is right there.

[Scagnetti]

Sammy's has been closed for awhile but you are correct about the location of Gordo's. They even have valet parking! <groan>

[texag99]

If you want to go really north, Mckinney has an outstanding deep dish pizza place. Chicago Pizza off 380. The family moved down from Chicago to open this little dive...the husband cooks, the wife runs the register and their kids are ususally hanging out. The atmosphere is nada...most people just pick it up to go...but, darn it's good. I think they originally opened in Plano, but sold that one and moved to mckinney. Not sure if new ownership has kept it the same.

[belleresa]

Coal Vines ---Bolognese pie--omg! and Stromboli's near SMU. My hubby likes Vinnie's by Knox/Henderson. We miss Cafe Nostra on Greenville Ave--it was lost in the Arcadia Fire.

[brock]

TRy Nonnas on Loma Alto-need reservations
wood fired -thin crust

[RandyC]

Everyone in Dallas Ft Worth Metro should try Mama's Pizza. Here is the website for locations. http://www.mamaspizzas.net/ I tried it in 1981 but was there 7/09/08 and just as good as it was back then. Kind of run down setting, but folks driving up in in expensive vehicles and taking out pizza. We ate there, and enjoyed it. Beer on tap also. Prices reasonable. Best pizza I know of that is still in business. Papa John, take some notes on how to do it right. We dined at the Berry St location in Ft Worth. They are about to open up in Camp Bowie she told me. Last time I went was in Arlington, both good.

[wompa164]

Mama's pizza in Dallas is no longer what it used to be. My family used to order from the Campbell/Preston location and it was probably the best pizza I've ever had in my life. Unfortunately ownership changed hands sometime in 2004 at that location and the quality went downhill immediately. I think it closed sometime in 2006 or 2007 and the only other location is in Plano, but it just doesn't have the same taste or feel at all.

[jinet12]

Chicago Ricks...best deep dish in town

[PWORD9D8]

Not too sure about Dallas but if you are in Plano I suggest Sal's or Brooklyn's

[BradT]

My family loves Al's and Sal's but our favorite pizzas are the thin crust versions at Taverna near Knox and Travis.

[twinwillow]

The pizza at Taverna, rocks!

[al20069]

I love Campania they have the best pizza.

[JohnnyVegas]

Campisi's? Who are you kidding? Talk about a gimmick that has run its course... HORRIBLE so-called pizza. I will walk across the steet to Taco Bell and get one of those flat Taco Pizza thingee's first - better toppings! Campisis = Italian for Yeech!
Vegas

[BunsonBurner]

Chicago St. Pizza in McKinney (75 and 380) has incredible deep dish. The couple moved from Chicago and opened this place...they use really fresh ingrediants, make dough and sauce every day, etc. Most people pick up, it's just a small place with a few tables but family run and they can tell you all about it. Actually, I think they had another location in Plano off of Coit, but sold it to someone else...i think it is supposed to taste the same.

[Niko]

Not a fan of Chicago St. Pizza.

[vktp]

Can't help you with deep dish.

Personal Rankings:

1) Campania (on their good days)
2) Grimaldi's
3) Fireside
4) Coal Vines
5) Olivella's
6) Louie's

15) Campisi's

[jesharris]

Campania, on McKinney Avenue by West Village, has superb thin-crust Neapolitan pizza, the kind of pie you'd actually get in southern Italy -- made by Italians, from Italian ingredients. It's not very expensive, and it's BYOB, which makes the place an even better deal.
http://www.campaniapizza.com/

[pizzaQTpie]

Campania is great and a lot of fun to go to (mainly because of the BYOB), but for all of you who have been to Naples and have had true Neapolitan pizza, this one is close and you will enjoy it. BUT, It is not as good as it was when it first opened, mainly because their little Italian pizza maker went back to Italy and now there are non-Italians working the kitchen/pizza oven AND i never see the owners there anymore. Quality has slipped but like i said it is still good and i will go back.
However, the Best bet for Neapolitan pizza now is Olivella's! Hand down. (But don't go there because it is small and i need my table, thanks.) On a side note, for anyone who like Campisi's, let me know where else you eat so i can avoid those places too - Campisi's is cardboard.

[J.R.]

I would say Olivella's for really good Neopolitan Pizza. Disclaimer( it's pricey and doesn't travel well)

Grimaldi's for NY Pizza hands down.

Both are great additions to the til-then poor Dallas pizza scene!

[BellaDonna]

Campisi's sucks. I was very disappointed.

Fireside Pies combine taste and freshness...I really liked their pizzas.

[irodguy]

I grew up here in Dallas and would whole heartdly agree with you on Campisis's. I personally think that Fireside just has to much "glop" on their pie.

[dalaimama]

If by glop you means huge pools of grease, I agree. Every time I go there, regardless of the type of pie, it always arrives soggy with grease. The third time we told our friends we'd be at Louie's.

[Epicurious Esquire]

I'm shocked that there are nearly 20 replies and NOBODY HAS MENTIONED LOUIE'S on Henderson????????????

Brilliant pizza, super thin, crisp crust - it's my favorite pizza in town. I also love the stiff drinks.

[skedhead2000]

I'm shocked too . . . Louie's on henderson blows away any other pizza in the city. Olivella's is great too - but it's no Louie's. Went to Grimadli's the other night and was disapointed (tomato sauce is sickly sweet). Other good places - but all a distant second to Louie's are Covino's (go to the original location and DON'T order the pasta unless you like overcooked goo), Marco's (the ambience of an Andy Gump but pizza is nice) and that's about it. There are no good places for chicago style pizza in Dallas btw. Oh yeah - Sal's near Wycliff is awful. Not sure why folks love that place.

[dalaimama]

Another bonus for Louie's is that you'll spend about half what you would at Olivella's and the Caesar salad at Louie's is faaaaaabulous. Get a small unless you have four or more people or are starving hungry.

Olivella's sauce is too sweet as well and they are really shy with the toppings. I'm not expecting heaps of stuff, but when there isn't enough cheese to lightly cover the crust (instead we had huge three-bite holes of just sauce and crust) and there is one bite of sundried tomato for the whole pie and one bite of pancetta per slice for $15 for a small? I feel a bit ripped off.

Love Marcos as well. It's an old-timer tradition. Although I don't ever get vegetable toppings as the mushrooms used to come from a can - that may have changed. I always just get cheese or pepperoni.

[yumyum palace]

I agree about Sal's. It's okay if you're pressed, but certainly not the best. I still like Grimaldi's. What I found in regards to the sauce was that it needed a little salt. I also like Pistazio's pizza, which is different from Grimaldi's, but good most of the time anyway.

[roro1831]

I was shocked to see Louie's so far down on the list. When I lived in Dallas I was there at least once a week. I think it is better than any pizza I've had in New York

[yumyum palace]

Yeah, that's because you aren't from NY. You like what you're used to. However don't think that a NY style pizza in TX is better than a slice in in NY where NY style pizza isn't a style it's a fact.

Where is it that you live now that TX pizza is the best pizza you've had? Just curious.

[roro1831]

I live in Hoboken, just across the river from New York, so I've sampled quite a few slices over the past three years and can say that I'm honestly not that impressed.
And you are correct, it all depends on what you are used to, I'm from New Orleans and find that most of the food up here pales in comparison to what I am used except for Italian, which i never really went out for in New Orleans.
And I don't think TX pizza is the best I've had, the best I've had is in New Orleans, because that is what I grew up on, places like Pied Piper, but sadly they closed years ago, because most people in NO prefer a roast beef poboy to a pizza.

[redapplegumball]

most authentic italian pizza in dallas is probably
olivella's
3406 McFARLIN
(AT HILLCREST)
UNIVERSITY PARK
get the gorgonzola, pear & walnut
delish

[Thefoodczar]

Two words: Fireside Pies.
I can also second Al's and Campisis.

[OCNC]

Food Czar is right on about Fireside. Best pizza in Dallas. Food Czar e is with the Dallas Observer

While all of you SUBURBANITES are fluttering on about SUBURBAN Dallas pizzarias, where your Navagators can gleem in the hot sun as you genuflect to thin crusts and cheap sodas "on tap," may I remind you the question was "WHERE CAN I FIND GOOD PIZZA IN DALLAS," with Dallas being the key word. There are only two places that fill the bill. Sal's Pizza, 2525 Wycliff, between Cedar Springs Road and Maple Avenue, and AL'S PIZZA, at Northwest Highway and where Lemmon Avenue become Marsh Lane as it crosses Northwest Highway. It's in the big shopping center called the "Villages of Bachman Lake." Both feature appropriately surly service, enough good beers by the bottle to float your Navagator, and the best pizza this side of Chicago OR Brooklyn.

[JohnnyVegas]

Right on both counts - Als and Sals are BOTH populated with surly greaseballs in wifebeaters who, were it not for their excellent pie, would be lynched. "Pizza good enough to stave off a lynchin'!" Now that's a tagline!
Vegas
Carmines is starting to give them a run for the above features...

[jm3245]

The person also said that so far, the best they had found is in Carrollton. This implies that the poster is looking for pizzerias in the Dallas AREA. Also, I don't recall ever seeing a Navigator (learn to spell) in my Carrollton neighborhood. There's not a demarcation line along I-635 where common sense and good taste end, despite what you smug Uptown-types think.

Since Adrian has clearly ventured to Carrollton for pizza, he may want to check out Goodfellas at Old Denton and Frankford. It's not deep dish, but the Pizza alla Vodka is spectacular.

[LewisvilleHounder]

jm3245,

I will have to agree with you on this one. While there are quite a few places popping up all over Dallas and the suburbs I would say Goodfellas ranks up there. I have tried everything from Chicago Style (one in Keller, Flower Mound, two in Plano and one recent addition in McKinney) and NY Style (too many to list) I focus on the quality of the pizza when it arrives and the overall taste. I have been on several occasions to Goodfellas and the pizza is consistent and the sauce not overly sweet or acidic, the cheese to sauce ratio is well balance and the toppings range from common to different (english peas).

I recently tried Grimaldi's in the West Village and thought the pesto pizza to be very good and the original pizza had an imbalance on the sweetness of the sauce. I am sure we all like our pizza one way or another and heck even sometimes I like Chicago Style over NY Style, but to comment in a snarky way about those of us who live in the suburbs is not what this post is about. In fact, I have never owned an SUV and I grew up in Irving (suburbs), commuted to UNT (suburbs) and now commute to Preston Center from Lewisville to work in my Honda Accord.

I have eaten at both Sal's and Al's (neither of which have Chicago Style)before the "authentic" pizza craze came to town and while good I stand behind my recommendation of Goodfellas. I am glad we have variety now and I am glad to have Goodfellas close to me. I live in Lewisville so there really isn't much to choose from but I don't mind the short drive for good food.

Those of us in the suburbs are somewhat envious of those in Uptown for all the pizza that has come your way but I am sure the same can be said for Chinese, Thai and Vietnamese restaurants that reside in the suburbs.

[irodguy]

I have also been to Sal's & Al's and Brothers for that matter and found none of them to be anything special. I find Romas in Plano & Wylie to be better than all of the above. I personally like Gramaldi''s all though my wife doesn't. I would agree that in many cases the best of breed happens to be in the "burbs" The simple fact is that the majority of the population in DFW is not in "D" proper, so it just follows that "D" will not necessarily have the best in all classes of food. My friend here at work has eaten at the Freehold NJ location of Goodfellas and "ate there deliberately" so it sounds very promising.

[irodguy]

After eating at Goodfellas twice after the above recommendation I must say that it's among the best in DFW. It's not particularly close to my office or home, but we have been out their twice from the office. The smokin Goodfella rocks...

[irodguy]

Wow tried goodfellas new Puerto Rico pizza it's really good pizza and may be some of the best latin food also. Those guys are awesome!

[irodguy]

Well sad to report that Goodfellas has gone way down hill. The Italian fellow from Staton Island is no longer associated with them. I was wondering what happened last time I was in. Ah well..

If you like Connecticut style brick oven pies, try Corky's in Arlington. The owner used to have a tremendously successful place outside Hartford. He retired to Florida, fell in love with a woman from Arlington, and now he's back in business. Here's a link to Corky's website:

http://www.corkysbrickovenpizza.com/

[JohnnyVegas]

DUDE! I am SOOO on this place! I cannot believe this place exists in NoTex! I am there tomorrow! Thanks for the good call!
A REAL pizza lover!
Vegas

I have not found good deep dish;

Brother's Pizza at Meadow and Central is authentic NY style and excellent.

Lover's Pizza on Lover's near Tollway also very good (owners are related to owners of Brothers I think)

By the way, there are lots of mentions about Campisi's - I agree that Campisi's is nothing to write home about.

I have not found good deep dish;

Brother's Pizza at Meadow and Central is authentic NY style and excellent.

Lover's Pizza on Lover's near Tollway also very good (owners are related to owners of Brothers I think)

By the way, there are lots of mentions about Campisi's - I agree that Campisi's is nothing to write home about.

[twinwillow]

Brother's Pizza (same group) has an outpost on Travis Street at Fitzhugh. Luckily for me, I only live a block away. Great, NY style pizza!

Someone mentioned Alfredos in Carollton and another mentioned Covinos in Plano - both are very good. But best is Sali's on Beltline in Garland. One of the owners used to fly 400 pizzas by hand each day on Broadway in NY. The owner of Alfredos is his cousin.

Like Covino's this is a neighborhood joint- you might get the impression that you are intruding but head on in and chow down. Since its next door to a theatre watch out for the crowds whenever a movie lets out.

Best pizza / coldest beer.

By far the best pizza in Dallas is Marco's on Preston and Royal. No dine in and cash only. Pizza is not deep dish it is very thin but I had to post because no one mentioned it.

[alittlezaftig]

Couldn't agree more. Marco's is my favorite. Never ate a better pizza anywhere. Been eating there for over 40 years!

[Cripcow]

I TOTALLY agree! Marco's is not only the best in Dallas, but Texas as well!

Rosati's
6150 Independence in Plano

Best Chicago-style deep dish that I've found in Dallas

I have a bold proposition for you. Sentimental Dallasites hold out for their Campisi's. Yet the best pizza in Dallas is not in Dallas, but in the outlying suburb of.....McKinney, 30 miles north of downtown.

The place is called Jim's Pizza. (Not the execrable Mr. Jim's. No relation).It is on highway 380, around 3 miles east of 75 central expressway. Jim and Mrs. Jim operate this fine establishment in a long-abandoned Pizza Hut (probably abandoned when Jim drove them out of business some years ago and expanded into their digs from his old spot). Nightly AND lunchtime buffet which with soda will set you back less than $7.00 and includes spaghetti and homemade sauce (and on some nights, Mrs. Jim's own lasagna). Big variety and lots of meats unlike many others featuring a buffet as a substantial part of their revenue mix. A combination pizza that features green and black olives and just the right payload of meats. Great sausage and pepperoni. Cheese like you haven't had since...well, maybe the 60's? A thin yet substantial handmade crust. Not too much sauce. Try the bacon cheeseburger pizza. Or the hamburger/jalapeno. Not fancy, not too inventive, just right. If you don't see what you want on the buffet, just ask and they will make you your favorite and put it on the buffet.

No ambiance. A big crowd of salt-of-the-earth locals and great pizza. RC Cola and Big Red on tap. Even the yuppies in nearby west McKinney have left this gem largely undiscovered. A booming but somewhat laconic delivery. I almost hate to mention this place in fears it will be overrun. But the Jim family deserves your custom. And many will be turned away by the lack of curb appeal, only to miss one of the finer pizzas available in N. TX.

[olif]

okay, whoever wrote this must either have been high or never left the McKinney area!! We went to Jim's yesterday (solely because of this article) and here is our honest opinion:
The positive: everyone was VERY friendly and nice.
The negative: Even Cici's pizza is a better place to eat: The pizza's quality is comparable and Cici's at least has a brownie type dessert which this place does not...
Saying that this is the best pizza place in DFW is like saying that the local Applebees has the best steak! There are hundreds (who knows maybe thousands??) better places for pizza in Dallas. My personal favorite to this point is Nonna in Highland Park.

[joanna.mcmaster]

Oh dear god, I didn't see that someone had rec'ed Jim's. LOLOLOL, I am so sorry that you made a special trip for that! Wow, i concur with the stoned remark, that place has been catering to drunken and baked MHS students for 2 and a half decades. Very sorry for the unfortunate rec.

The best NY style pizza in the Dallas area is Cozzoli's in Allen and Covino's in Plano. I personally think Campisi's pizza isn't very good but that's me.

Check out Pastazios(sp?) in Addison Circle. I'm not a really big fan of NY style pizza but my buddy is and he loves that place.

I recomend Campisi's on Mockingbird, on the east side of I-35.

Cash only. Don't let the "Egyptian Food" sign throw you off.

Campisi's is no longer cash only.. the now accept Credit Cards.

In the 'burbs' for thin crust pizza, the best I have ever had is from I' Fratelli's in Irving, Tx.

Campisi's is just east of I-75, NOT I-35. Or also called Central Expressway. Their pizza is a thin crust & okay. Never really understood why Dallasites rave about Campisi's. It is okay, but nothing outstanding.

[ychromosome]

Because eating is about more than just the food. Campisis has atmosphere that can only come from a shady (but fascinating) past. And the pizza (and lasagna) isn't bad. Not world-rocking, but not bad.

[pgwiz1]

Is that Campisi the same as the one in Plano (on Parker just a bit east of Coit)? Went there this weekend and had their "Cali" Pizza with chicken and artichokes. Delicious! My husband was craving it yesterday again...

[air]

Yeah, they're a local chain:

http://campisis.us/search.php?action=all

[NDHebert]

I just dont understand why people like Campisis pizza. I consider that place more of a 'be seen' establishment, people dont necessarily go there for great quality food. The pizza reminds me of a Totinos frozen pizza.

I recomend Cigarz on Gaston. The sign just says PIZZA, but it has great, all homemade pizzas. The Greek Pizza has been in the papers and D magazine.