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synergy Apr 2, 2013 01:40 PM

I read that Alure opens for the season this Thursday, April 4th. Anyone know if they are doing anything special to open?

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    nofolady Apr 4, 2013 06:39 AM

    There were ads in the local papers yesterday that said they'd have 2 for 1 drinks at the bar from 5 to 7, a $20.13, 3 course prix fixe dinner menu in addition to their regular menu.

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      roxlet Apr 4, 2013 10:15 AM

      Where is Allure?

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        erica Apr 5, 2013 04:38 AM

        Vicinity of Port of Egypt. South side of the main road, east of Southold Village and west of Greenport.

        http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/21/nyr...

    2. Motosport Apr 4, 2013 10:52 AM

      Why did they close? Storm damage?

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        nofolady Apr 4, 2013 12:46 PM

        Clarification of previous post...they are open Thursday - Sunday at 5 for dinner, for now. 2 for 1 drinks at the bar are on Thursday and Friday from 5 - 7. The prix fixe dinner for $20.13 is only on Thursday and Sunday. To answer motorsport, they close for the winter months (as many places out here so), then open for dinner only on weekends until the season gets in full swing, then they are open for dinner except for Monday, if they stick to last year's schedule. They do lunches on the weekends when the season gets going (that usually means after Memorial Day weekend). I can't recall if they serve lunch during the week during high season or not. As for damage from Sandy, I didn't read that they suffered any (and I get the local weekly papers year-round), but they are back a bit from the water, unlike Pepi's just a little east of them...Pepi's was completely destroyed. They had a fantastic location with a deck right on the water. They have no plans to rebuild and their other location, the Red Rooster in Cutchogue, is for sale.

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          Motosport Apr 4, 2013 12:54 PM

          Pepi's is operating out of the Red Rooster location. We haven't been there since the storm. I guess you get two menus.
          I do my best to support the restaurants and other businesses that stay open all year or only close for a month or so.
          Personally owning and operating retail businesses on the North and South Forks and staying open all year long it rubs me the wrong way when a business takes the seasonal gravy and stiffs the locals for the Winter months.
          I'll skip Allure and eat at tRP.
          Just saying!

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            nofolady Apr 5, 2013 04:37 AM

            Yes, I failed to mention that, sorry. We have never been to the Red Rooster and have heard nothing about it. We also try to support the places that stay open and we do have our favorites, Cooperage Inn never fails and the Riverhead Project is always good.. We also love Stonewall's at The woods. They do close for about 6 weeks during the winter but living here full time I fully understand because it gets pretty sparse here on the North Fork, and I personally think it is quieter on the North Fork than the South Fork during the winter (and summer, for that matter, for obvious reasons) We still have family in Southampton who have been there since the 40's so we know the South Fork well and enjoy going there during the winter to places we can't get to in the summer due to traffic. We have a soft spot for Bobby Van's because we went there when we were first dating over 40 years ago - now that sure dates us, hah! But I can certainly understand how it rubs you the wrong way that some places close during the off months. People who visit us here always say how much they love it and how they wish they could live here. I say, "Really? Come visit us in February and see if you feel the same way." But we love it and wouldn't live anywhere else.

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              Motosport Apr 5, 2013 06:55 AM

              The Red Rooster is pretty good. Simple comfort food done well. Pepi and her husband run a nice operation.
              We miss the Farmer Bar that was in the same location.
              I can agree with an East End restaurant closing for 4-6 weeks especially after New Years day but closing for 3-4 months irks me. In essense they are saying "welcome Summer people, locals we don't need you."
              After living in Montauk for many years the North Fork is a Metropolis in the Winter.

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                EricMM Apr 5, 2013 07:31 AM

                Red Rooster is OK, but nothing great. You're right- the Farmers Bar was great and a lot of fun. But our favorite at that location was the Wild Goose...a lot of people disliked that place, but my kids and I loved it, especially Frank, the very eccentric chef who ran it.

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                  Motosport Apr 5, 2013 07:37 AM

                  Heard great things about Wild Goose but never went. It's a tough spot to have a restaurant.
                  We recently discovered Sophie's in Southold but didn't eat there. Have you been? It seems like it's a hidden gem.
                  Lucharito's and Bruce's in Greenport are two of our favorite North Fork spots.

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                    EricMM Apr 6, 2013 09:23 AM

                    Most of the time when I'm in the NF I'm without a car, since my kids have them. Since I'm in Cutchogue, that limits us much of the time to Touch of Venice and Red Rooster. (I'm so glad that T of V opened at the old Fisherman's Rest location...it was always such a great place physically, but its incarnations as a restaurant ranged from "ugh" to "eh"...but T of V is really good.) I'm one of the only people it seems who doesn't like Greenport...its too busy for me. So I haven't been to many restaurants there. Unfortunately, my kids really like Maison Ole (needless to say, I can't stand it)...........While I really want to try NFTI, its priced too far out of my league...maybe I'll go sometime when I'm just with one of my kids.

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                      nofolady Apr 7, 2013 02:47 PM

                      I, we, absolutely LOVE Touch of Venice! Can't say enough about it. Not your typical L.I. red sauce Italian. The food is always great, love the bread, pesto and cheese they serve gratis, and the fact that there are always printed specials but also other specials that they tell you about. The regular menu is always there for a fall-back but I always love that there are specials, something most restaurants don't bother with all that often. On Friday I had the special grilled veal chop, served with black rice and grilled spring onions - todiefor. This is a true family operation, father in the kitchen along with at least one son, daughter tends bar and also waits tables, mom runs the front of house. Seems like everyone we have met there is either related or a friend of the family but they are all well qualified. I could go on and on but this is not the place for it, it started out talking about A Lure and wound up talking about other North Fork places, but I would love to see a post about just restaurants on the North Fork, if anyone else is interested. I hear you on Greenport; it can get really crowded on summer weekends but it's nice to walk the streets and visit the galleries and there are sooo many good places to eat now. Maison Ole'? You poor thing, I agree with you there. Maybe you could convince your kids to give the new Lucharito's (sp?) a shot, the buzz is very good but we haven't made it there yet. If you are around for Hampton's Restaurant week (April 7-14), NFTI has a great prix fixe menu posted on their site.

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                        erica Apr 7, 2013 03:47 PM

                        There have been a number of fairly recent posts here on the dining scene in Greenport and around.

                        I am curious as to which places you would count among the "good places to eat" in Greenport this season. I keep hoping to find one or two great spots and while I agree that the dining scene is perhaps better than it has been in the past 15 years or so, I am hard pressed to find any place that would rank up there in the "wonderful" category.

                        Last year, our go-to spot was Grana in Jamesport, but (for us, at least) this is a far drive from the east end.....so hoping that something new will turn up,or perhaps I need to, yet again, take down my expectations another notch.

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                          nofolady Apr 7, 2013 04:41 PM

                          We always enjoy Noah's, have been fans of his since he was the chef at the Seafood Barge before it closed, was renovated, and became A Lure. We also like First and South, which used to be Vine Street; there's a Brooklyn connection there and Brooklyn-ites love Greenport so I'd think there will be more to come of their foodie scene. We enjoyed North Fork Oyster Company, which now will be new under the ownership of Keith Luce, and based on his stint at Luce and Hawkins, it should be good. We had several nice lunches at Blue Canoe last summer but they don't have what I'd call knock-out food, just decent food but a knock-out view from the outside dining deck. For us, having 4 good places to choose from that we enjoy make Greenport a good choice to justify the 40 minute ride east for us, which we enjoy in the warmer months. And, I have to admit, we enjoy going into the main bar at Claudio's, a real treasure of an old NY bar (which was in the movie The Devil's Own) for their house-made pineapple vodka martinis and house made potato chips when we just want to take a drive and have a snack and a drink on a sunny day. BTW, we had a conversation with a woman at Stonewall's the other day who said Grana's (which we love) is now serving steaks, and she said they are the best she's ever had. Guess they're cooking them in their wood-fired oven? Not sure but we plan to check it out soon. We have been in hibernation mode here with just the local year-round places near us but the season is starting, the weather is finally decent, and we are looking forward to it. And I know nothing of the people who owned Dolittle's in the Mattituck Waldbaum's shopping center but they had a long run and they just bought Front Street station, might be worthy of a burger fix.

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                            Motosport Apr 8, 2013 09:32 AM

                            I.M.H.O. Blue Canoe has a very interesting menu and one of the best lobster rolls on Long Island!!
                            You can not beat having an "al fresco" meal duting the nice weather.
                            It is a surprise to us that there are so few "waterview" restaurants on the North Fork.

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                              nofolady Apr 8, 2013 12:40 PM

                              I totally agree 100% on Blue Canoe. Nice staff, too, they also work at the other place the owners have on Shelter Island (forget the name but supposed to be good) and they all take the ferry to work.
                              It is amazing to me that there are so few waterview places on Long Island, period. And I think we may have been to every single one in both Nassau and Suffolk - we sure tried to seek and find them all. We got spoiled living in Florida for many years.
                              We love the deck at the Olde Mill Inn in Mattituck (lots of ducks and swans swimming right next to you and ospreys nest right across the creek, so fun to watch). And we also like Legends in New Suffolk, now they actually do have a waterview; they didn't for years until the last couple of years.
                              I'm sure I am missing something but that's all I can think of right now.

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                                Motosport Apr 8, 2013 01:15 PM

                                We would go to the Olde Mill Inn often mainly for the outside deck dining. The food was decent if you kept it simple.
                                Unfortunately the new owners are so grumpy we gave up on the place.
                                Our three favorite waterfront places are Canal Cafe, Rumba and Cowfish in Hampton bays. Great food and a fabulous al fresco dining experience.
                                We love Legends too!! Back in the day there was a restaurant on the other side of the marina from Legends. It was fun to watch the sailboat races while we ate. It changed names a few times. Can't remember any of them.

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                                  EricMM Apr 8, 2013 02:18 PM

                                  Galley Ho was one of the incarnations. Food was OK, nothing special...but it was a fun place. Haven't been to Legends in years. I like it, but I guess it hasn't motivated me to come back that often. Maybe its because my wife doesn't like it that much.

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                                    nofolady Apr 8, 2013 02:32 PM

                                    Glad my memory still works, I thought Galley ho was one name and just mentioned that. You should give Legends another shot...it's a beautiful place now, the roof collapsed from snow a couple years back and they did a beautiful job to update it. They got slammed with Sandy and had to re-do more. I think their menu veers to the unusual (and good!), including a decent banh mi sandwich that doesn't exist - to my knowledge - anywhere else in NOFO. Ditto pad thai, altho it is a tad Americanized, but still good when you need a Thai fix. We have been for dinner but usually go for lunch so we can enjoy the scenery on the way there and when we eat. But if there is a fish I like on the lunch special menu I am going to order it as I think there is a deft hand in the kitchen when it comes to fish.

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                                      Fred19 Apr 23, 2013 05:40 AM

                                      Galley Ho was also Harpoon Harry's or Harpoon Harriet's.

                                      ~Fred19

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                                        Motosport Apr 23, 2013 10:16 AM

                                        Harpoon Harry's!! That was the name.

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                                          EricMM Apr 23, 2013 02:44 PM

                                          For some reason I just remember the name Harpoon.

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                                      nofolady Apr 8, 2013 02:23 PM

                                      Yes, simple. Very. but we never experienced the grumpy attitude, only pleasantness, how odd. I'd still probably ignore that just to see the ospreys, tho.
                                      Again, agreed! All 3 of those places are great but just a bit of a ride for us since we are as far north as you can get overlooking the Sound, but we do go there - just in the mid week during the season.
                                      Glad to hear it, I think Legends does a great job with fish and their daily specials are delicious and often veer to the unusual, not the boring same old-same old you get most places. I remember that place fondly, in a couple of incarnations, think Galley Ho was one of them. The New Suffolk Community Waterfront something or other took it over and planned to make it a permanent place for displaying local art but it was so badly damaged in Sandy that its future remains uncertain.

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                              EricMM Apr 8, 2013 06:50 AM

                              I've mentioned Lucharito's to them....maybe they'll agree. But I am not a fan of "Mexican" food period. Maybe real, authentic Mexican seafood might entertain me, but not enchiladas, burritos, and tacos. Also, tequila, or at least good tequila, makes me deathly ill with even 1 margarita. So I'll make my occasional compromise with Maison Ole in order to get to NFOC or another good place another time. Haven't tried Noah's yet, but my daughter and oldest son have and liked it. Never tried any of the Frisky Oyster incarnations...just looked too "cool" for me. Turned me off. I was always astounded by the vitriol on these pages for the Seafood Barge. Loved that place- all the kids had their Bar/Bas Mitzvahs there. We were always treated very well. Since some of the staff remained at A'lure, at least last year, it was really fun going back.

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                                Motosport Apr 8, 2013 09:28 AM

                                Is Touch of Venice the place that was in the marina a while back? We went and thought it was awful but that was many years ago. We'll have to give it another try.
                                FYI: It's MESON Ole'. Good reliable Tex Mex but nothing to rave about.
                                Lucharito's is excellent!! Get there before the Summer when they will be packed. It's a small place.
                                Bruce's Cheese Emporium is another breakfast/lunch favorite. Creative cooking. Too bad they don't do dinner.

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                                  nofolady Apr 8, 2013 12:28 PM

                                  I can't really say, we only went there once many years ago while vacationing in Greenport when we still lived in Melville, long before we moved out here full time. I remember it was on the water, which is why we chose it, to get that gotta-be-near-the-water fix we craved. I can tell you that we only went there once so we must not have been impressed. It's still the same family who has owned it since '88 because I read that somewhere. All I know now is that we go there at least once a week and have never had anything other than excellent food and service. Sometimes we just got for a drink at the bar so we can have their veal-ricotta meatballs, served over a bed of fresh baby spinach and topped with a lemon garlic sauce. I think I have had dreams of them, seriously.
                                  Right, duh! Thanks for the correction, French, it isn't, hah! we used to go to the Meson Ole' in Commack and enjoyed it, never tried the one in Greenport. I'm sure you're right about Lucharito's being jammed soon, gotta go check them out ASAP.
                                  Bruce's is on our list, have heard many good things but just haven't gotten around to it yet.

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                                    Motosport Apr 8, 2013 01:17 PM

                                    Bruce's has the best bacon I have ever had in all my years. Whatever you get make sure you have a side of bacon.

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                                      nofolady Apr 8, 2013 02:24 PM

                                      Thanks, will do!!!

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                          nofolady Apr 5, 2013 12:30 PM

                          We miss the Farmer Bar, too! Pepi's food was OK but it was the view that drew us there. Having been in the restaurant business for over 20 years with my husband I can understand why they do close....it's different to keep hard goods on the shelf that don't lose value or go bad and another to have to throw food way because there are just not enough customers around to eat it before it spoils. And i know what you mean about Montauk - it shuts down even more than here, for sure. Still love it , tho, especially in the fall, right after Halloween. Are East by Northeast and Harvest still going strong? Love both of them!

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                    nofolady Apr 4, 2013 01:06 PM

                    to roxlet.... A lure is in Southold on the south side of the main road, just before you get to Greenport. You can't miss it. For many years it was the Seafood Barge, if you remember that incarnation. Tom Schaudel and partners did an incredible job of updating the inside and outside and the food is very, very good. Another poster (can't recall who right now) mentioned the musical chairs out here when it comes to chefs (I believe that was in reference to Keith Luce no longer being at Luce and Hawkins at the Jedidiah Hawkins Inn in Jamesport; former chef/owner of Amarelle, Lia Fallon, is now at the helm there). Well, before A lure came to be, the Seafood Barge's chef was Noah Schwatrz, who is now the owner/chef of Noah's in Greenport. Fantastic place, great chef, delicious food. And he bought what had been FOB, the Frisky Oyster Bar, spin-off of the original Frisky Oyster, which was opened by Dennis McDermott, who basically revolutionized the Greenport dining scene...he sold Frisky Oyster (also a fantastic place) to his chef there and went on to do the same thing in downtown Riverhead with The Riverhead Project - he transformed and old Chase bank near the Aquarium that was built in the 60's into an incredible space with movies and wine dinners in the what was the old vault downstairs; upstairs is very mid-century modern with great food, the menu constantly changes with the season. There's more but this is already too long a post, sorry!

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                      roxlet Apr 4, 2013 04:47 PM

                      Oh, yes. I remember The Seafood Barge well -- but not too fondly. That's actually Port of Egypt, isn't it? I loved the original Frisky Oyster, and I'd love to try The Riverhead Project, but I am out east so rarely these days, and never for dinner it seems...

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                        nofolady Apr 5, 2013 04:43 AM

                        Agreed; they were never really good and didn't really even have much of a view either. At least you know where it is. There are so many good places here now, way more than when we first moved here full time in '06. The North Fork Table and Inn is truly astounding, the head chef, Gerry Hayden, has just been nominated for a James Beard award for the 2nd (or 3rd?) time. If you find yourself visiting and want a special meal give it a shot - but be prepared, it is NOT cheap, and you would be wise to make reservations.

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                          roxlet Apr 5, 2013 05:44 AM

                          We always eat at the NF Table and Inn. Claudia Flemming, his wife, is the pastry chef, and my idol

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                            nofolady Apr 5, 2013 12:36 PM

                            And rightly so - I am not a big dessert fan but I ALWAYS save room when we go there! And take a bag of cookies to go home as well! So sad that her husband has ALS, fairly recently diagnosed but he already has had to cut back and has been training a new chef to take over his daily duties....the young chef (sorry, forget his name) was recently on Chopped. He lost but he did very well for someone so young, so there's hope Gerry can pass the baton, oversee things and they can continue to thrive.

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                              roxlet Apr 6, 2013 05:41 AM

                              Yes, I also read about the ALS diagnosis. Terrible. We had a beautiful young woman in our town who got ALS and quickly went downhill and died despite the best treatment money could buy. It's a horrible, horrible disease.

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                                nofolady Apr 7, 2013 02:52 PM

                                I totally agree. My heart goes out to him and his family. At least the local community and those active in the food world are supporting him in this difficult battle. One can only hope and pray for him...

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                      TBN Apr 23, 2013 03:57 AM

                      We've eaten at A'Lure twice since they've reopened....two excellent meals, and both were part of their $20.13 Sunday or Thursday special deal. Three full-sized portions covering a wide range on their menu. I have had the seared salmon and the coconut crusted flounder; my husband liked the cod so much he ordered it a second time. Everything, down to the strawberry shortcakes was really, really good. They have a great bar as well. Do not be so tough on them for not staying open all winter- not economically viable in the dead of winter in a closed marina. Maybe the $20.13 special is their way of giving back to the locals?

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