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JayL Mar 30, 2013 01:49 PM

Wife had a class this morning at the hospital. When she pulled into the drive I got a phone call to "come help".

???

I got to her open trunk on the car and looked inside. I saw Le Creuset bags. I didn't say a word and just helped her inside with it.

Turns out someone at her work is getting a divorce and has stuff she's never used (they still had tags on them).

She got some pretty eclectic stuff, but she did good!

She got the flipping BIG goose pot...
...a 15" oval skillet...
...the tagine...
...and a cast trivet...

...all for $300

Just looked it all up to help "ease HER mind" (she felt like I was going to be mad that she spent too much $$$). I figured somewhere around $900 if we went and purchased it all.

That goose pot is one big ass dutch oven! LoL

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    Sherri RE: JayL Mar 30, 2013 02:09 PM

    You will likely love the goose pot; I know that I do. There are just two of us in the house but I use it often. Congratulations.

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      dixiegal RE: Sherri Apr 1, 2013 03:22 AM

      Which LC pot is the goose pot? How big is it?

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        JayL RE: dixiegal Apr 1, 2013 06:02 AM

        15.5 quarts

        $575 at Williams-Sonoma

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          dixiegal RE: JayL Apr 1, 2013 07:47 AM

          >15.5 quarts<

          Good gracious! I could give the grandbaby a bath in that pot. LOL. Can't imagine how much that thing would weigh. I would probably be better off just buying another 7.5 quart and cooking two different pots of the same thing. But.....If I ever find one at a good price, I might go for the goose pot anyway.

    2. JayL RE: JayL Mar 30, 2013 02:33 PM

      The $900 value I figured came from the least expensive internet options I could find.

      I just priced everything from normal retailers and it came to over $1,100 total value.

      Not bad for a $300 purchase. She's happy...and that makes me happy.

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        Kris in Beijing RE: JayL Mar 30, 2013 02:44 PM

        Congrats!

        Don't forget to give her a "relaxed" budget for that first goose!!

      2. foodieX2 RE: JayL Mar 30, 2013 02:44 PM

        Congrats!!!

        I use the huge goose pot all the time!!! You will love it, Its great for weekend batch cooking. I make triple batches of chili, soups, stew, etc and stock my freezer. Also great for big casual parties. I love to make serve your self chili and set the counter with bowls of mix ins and toppings.

        1. Chemicalkinetics RE: JayL Mar 30, 2013 07:21 PM

          Good job. Congratulation.

          1. JayL RE: JayL Mar 30, 2013 08:29 PM

            She's been home about 8 hours now.

            She just walked through the kitchen and I swear I heard her say, "That is one big pot."

            LoL

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              happybaker RE: JayL Mar 30, 2013 08:31 PM

              Awesome!

              And she's going to look at and touch everything many times, even before she cooks with it.

              She's gonna have a lot of fun for $300 and you'll have some fab food - a win win!

            2. kaleokahu RE: JayL Apr 1, 2013 02:46 PM

              Hi, Jay:

              Good scores.

              Aloha,
              Kaleo

              1. Mr Taster RE: JayL Apr 1, 2013 02:50 PM

                Good lord, is that pot really 15.5 quart?!

                http://www.williams-sonoma.com/produc...

                I'm sorry to say I'm going to have to rain on this parade a little bit.

                I have the 7.25 qt. round French oven and absolutely love it. I stew, I braise, I bake, I boil with it. I cook for my wife and I and we always have leftovers to freeze. This sized pot could easily feed a family of 4.

                But 15.5 qt... literally double the quantity... I can't imagine what in the world I would do with it! (I guess I would cook a goose...)

                It's certainly a decent score in terms of $ value, but in terms of practicality, she's got several specialized pots with not much versatility among them.

                What I mean is, the tagine is good for, well, tagine (some argue that a French oven does a better overall job anyway, and it's a more practical/useful pot to own), the 15" oval skillet is bigger than you need for most applications (and if it's got a nonstick surface, and is already used, the actual lifespan of the pan is likely minimal at this point-- at best, nonstick skillets perform at their peak only for a couple of years- if it's an enameled regular skillet, then none of that applies), the 15.5 qt goose pot is, as mentioned, absurdly big, not useful unless you're cooking for an army.

                In my opinion, the trivet is the only really useful/practical item of the bunch.

                I'm sure they're all gorgeous though. I just don't know what the heck I would do with them.

                Mr Taster

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                  kaleokahu RE: Mr Taster Apr 1, 2013 07:39 PM

                  Hi, Mr. Taster:

                  Yes, the "goose" and the oval skillet are quite large, especially for stovetop use. The pot is 19" handle-to-handle, which probably means there's about 15" of base length, and the skillet would be about the same. A 12x15 oval perched on a round 8" hob is going to be a problem for preparations that call for even heat. Both would do fine in the oven, though.

                  But Jay is a LC devotee, knows the score, and got quite the bargain, so I'm happy for him (and his chiropractor).

                  Aloha,
                  Kaleo

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                    JayL RE: kaleokahu Apr 1, 2013 08:39 PM

                    Our new range has an 11" hob so the 15" oval will hang over 2" on either side. Not too out of reason...not ideal, but workable.

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                    JayL RE: Mr Taster Apr 1, 2013 08:35 PM

                    We find the 7.25qt not large enough at times. Go figure.

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                      seattle_lee RE: JayL Apr 3, 2013 10:54 AM

                      Double post, sorry.

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                      rasputina RE: Mr Taster May 13, 2013 05:12 AM

                      If I had the goose pot, I'd use it for stock. I can my stock and currently use a 12 quart stock pot.

                    3. law_doc89 RE: JayL Apr 1, 2013 02:55 PM

                      when the goose pot went on sake a few weeks back, I went to the local Le Creuset store to pick up the sucker and see if practical. Yikes! I imagined leaning over with a goose and trimmings over the oven door. Only if one has slaves who do the cooking. (I start my day with 75 pushups)

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                        foodieX2 RE: law_doc89 Apr 1, 2013 03:18 PM

                        WHile I have never made a goos in mine I have made big vats of chili, soups, stews and the like with no issue. My goal when I use it to either feed a crowd or feed the freezer.

                        When feeding a crowd it stays put on the stove. People help them selves from the stove top. Usually there is not much left but even if there is plenty I transfer it to a smaller pot for sticking in the fridge. Granted I have a big extended family and love to have parties so that helps.

                        When feeding the freezer (mostly in winter month) this pot gets used at least once a month. Again the goal is make a large amount with little mess and not a tons of pots and pans. What ever I am cooking is then cooled and transferred to freezer safe containers in family sized portions. This thing has paid for itself many times over.

                        Obviously the OP is is excited and considers the whole lot a steal so whether or not I think its awesome and wildly useful and someone else thinks none of them are versatile and would rot in the cupboard doesn't really matter does it? Jay and the Mrs. are psyched!

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                          law_doc89 RE: foodieX2 Apr 1, 2013 03:26 PM

                          Methinks you missed it.

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                        cutipie721 RE: JayL Apr 1, 2013 05:02 PM

                        Good grieve it's 24 lbs when empty. Get ready to "go help" wifey whenever she uses the pot...

                        It's only a steal if she commits to use it frequently. Otherwise consider selling it.

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                          JayL RE: cutipie721 Apr 1, 2013 08:32 PM

                          We'll both use it.

                          We aren't scared of such things. LoL

                          If you take into consideration the other items she purchase retail for WELL over the $300 she spent, you could consider the goose pot was free. I doubt we'll be selling it. LoL

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                            law_doc89 RE: JayL Apr 2, 2013 05:08 AM

                            LC is fun, but mostly over the top. You can use anything on the stove top, but I think the heavy stuff is made with the old side hinge door oven in mind.

                        2. JayL RE: JayL Apr 1, 2013 08:43 PM

                          To put things in perspective...

                          We are not afraid of the big pot. It won't be used every week or even every month. But rather "maybe" a handful of times per year.

                          I grew up cooking in a 25 GALLON (not quart) cast iron wash pot...so a 15 quart cooking vessel is not very intimidating.

                          LoL

                          1. alarash RE: JayL Apr 2, 2013 12:41 AM

                            Great score!

                            Cookware is not all about practicality. I'm of the opinion that it's okay to obtain certain items just because you want to have them.

                            And in your case, it sounds like you actually are going to use them pretty often.

                            Post a photo of them in action some time.

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                              MelMM RE: alarash Apr 2, 2013 05:40 AM

                              I'm with you on that. A tagine, for example. Sure, you can make a tagine in a dutch oven just fine. But sometimes aesthetics come into play, and it is more fun to make the tagine in a tagine, which, let's face it, is a lot more cool looking than a dutch oven.

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                              emu48 RE: JayL Apr 2, 2013 12:53 AM

                              Just be careful. I lot some of my enthusiasm for Le Creuset when I baked a deep-dish pizza one time in a LC casserole. People cutting themselves slices gouged the inside enamel. Besides chipping easily, the enamel is brittle enough to fail under knife-blade pressure.

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                                MelMM RE: emu48 Apr 2, 2013 05:38 AM

                                Oh, gosh. I would never cut in any pot or pan. Bad for the knife, bad for the pan.

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                                jhamiltonwa RE: JayL Apr 2, 2013 03:57 AM

                                My golly. That's a pot. How good would it be to bring it to the table at a dinner party and say "Cassoulet anyone?". I mean that's $300 of joy right there.

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                                  Sherri RE: JayL Apr 2, 2013 06:28 PM

                                  I am surprised at some of the comments.
                                  re: the goose pot -- I used it for a Grits Bar, making garlic cheese grits for 65 people. Several other LC Dutch ovens held toppings of choice. I don't know what else would have done the yoeman service in place of the goose pot.

                                  JayL, I hope that you and your wife smile each time you use one of your treasures. Ignore the sour grapes, even a bargain goose pot can't make them palatable.

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                                    law_doc89 RE: Sherri Apr 2, 2013 06:59 PM

                                    You will note, no one say he or she has used it to cook a goose!

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                                      Sherri RE: law_doc89 Apr 3, 2013 12:00 PM

                                      I have braised a goose in the goose pot but figured this was such an odd usage that I didn't mention it before. A hunter friend shot a goose that required long, slow cooking -- this was perfect, even better that I cooked his goose (!) in the goose pot.

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                                        law_doc89 RE: Sherri Apr 3, 2013 04:29 PM

                                        Wow!

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                                      cleobeach RE: Sherri Apr 3, 2013 12:19 PM

                                      I would get busy planning a party specifically to cook something in that pot. What fun!

                                      I fear if I let one more piece into the house, it will open the flood gates!

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                                        Jay F RE: cleobeach Apr 3, 2013 06:37 PM

                                        <I fear if I let one more piece into the house, it will open the flood gates!>

                                        I know what you mean, Cleo. I hit the point of critical mass this week. I have to get rid of some dishes and cookware or there's going to be stuff on the floor. I'm not a hoarder, so I have to deal with extra Le Creuset, other cast iron, non-stick pans, glassware.

                                        I wish we could have a classifieds section on Chowhound.

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                                      Dee S RE: JayL Apr 3, 2013 12:17 PM

                                      So jealous! Have fun with your new toys.

                                      1. c oliver RE: JayL Apr 3, 2013 04:57 PM

                                        Can't remember if anyone has mentioned this, but I've had times when I used that LC cause I had a large, bone-in piece of meat and the shape of it worked better in the huge oval one.

                                        I'd have bought those pieces at that price in a heartbeat. Pea green :) Congrats.

                                        And, hey, heavy lifting is only one of the reasons I've married Bob twice :)

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                                          DuffyH RE: c oliver Apr 5, 2013 06:52 AM

                                          Way back in '74, I won what I think was a complete set of LC on a game show. There were 3 saucepans, 3 fry pans (bare iron on cooking surface), 3 enameled skillets with pour spouts, 3 round dutch ovens, 3-4 oval ovens, a long, narrow rectangular covered pot that I think was for fish, 3-4 shallow open casseroles, plus the little round mushroom saute pans. There may have a few more pieces, but I'm not sure. Total retail value of the whole set - $325. The colors were flame, cobalt and possibly cherry or quince.

                                          I was 20, didn't know how to boil water, there were no interwebs to help me learn how to use them, and no one around me had ever even heard of the stuff. I think that was the year it was new to the US. I ended up donating them after a few years of burned food and impossible to clean messes. My spousal unit did keep the largest oval oven; it made a dandy water bowl for our Irish setters. But eventually it fell by the wayside when he chipped the enamel one day.

                                          I wouldn't mind having those dutch and oval ovens now.

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                                          aasg RE: JayL Apr 5, 2013 07:50 AM

                                          To the Le Creuset users browsing this thread, what is the smallest French oven that could hold a whole chicken?

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                                            Jay F RE: aasg Apr 5, 2013 08:00 AM

                                            I have used a 5.5 qt round. I don't know if the next smaller size, the 4.5, would leave enough room all the way around unless you have a small chicken.

                                            The 6.75 oval French oven works with a 5-pound+ chicken and some vegetables. I've never used the next smaller size oval. If you'll be buying your first LC, though, I think it's better to get a round oven, for more even heating in stovetop cooking.

                                            I use a roasting pan 99% of the time, though.

                                            Hope this helps.

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                                              aasg RE: Jay F Apr 5, 2013 07:51 PM

                                              Yes, thank you! That is very helpful.

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                                                law_doc89 RE: aasg Apr 6, 2013 05:03 AM

                                                And the 3.5 qt works well for spring chickens.

                                                However, if you use a larger one and rest the chicken on vegetables such as carrots and potatoes, you will have a one pot meal and the base for great gravy or soup.

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                                                  foiegras RE: law_doc89 May 12, 2013 09:24 AM

                                                  Even if you are not a spring chicken, it works well.

                                                  Just looking for an LC thread to mention that I was at the San Marcos outlet yesterday, and they had a nice selection of Signature in Aubergine only at 30% off (35% off $300 or more). I got another little sauce pan as I find them so useful. There were grill pan, skillets, oval Dutch ovens, the round soup thingy (not sure what that piece is called). She said they just got the shipment, hadn't had any in quite awhile. They also had a Marseilles Signature oval Dutch to which no discounts applied!!

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                                              Chemicalkinetics RE: aasg May 12, 2013 09:28 AM

                                              I think 4-5 quarts is the smallest size. This of course depends the size of your chicken.

                                            3. JayL RE: JayL May 14, 2013 09:19 AM

                                              My wife cooked a Caribbean rice dish (Pelau for those interested) last week in the goose pot. It was only about 1/2 full, but would have been too much for a 7qt...and wouldn't have been left with decent "stirring room" in a 9qt. The big pot worked perfectly. It cooked well and we were able to stir the pot w/o getting food all over the cooktop.

                                              We made six individual meals off the cook plus put four more in the freezer for later. Perfect.

                                              No regrets.

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                                                kaleokahu RE: JayL May 14, 2013 05:06 PM

                                                Hi, JayL:

                                                And your deadlift numbers at the gym are coming up too, I expect.

                                                Aloha,
                                                Kaleo

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                                                  foiegras RE: kaleokahu May 14, 2013 06:20 PM

                                                  Who needs the gym, when you have a goose pot.

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                                                    law_doc89 RE: foiegras May 14, 2013 07:53 PM

                                                    A cast iron goose pot. Up two three...

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                                                      JayL RE: law_doc89 May 14, 2013 08:31 PM

                                                      LMAO...ya'll are cracking me up! LoL

                                                      It's actually not that heavy...are you wimps?

                                                      The wife had it out, washed, and on the cooktop before I ever got in the kitchen. She isn't exactly Shera. LoL

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                                                        rasputina RE: JayL May 15, 2013 07:09 AM

                                                        I honeslty do not get all the complaints about weight for cast iron. It is heavier than thin aluminum non stick but it's not unbearable and I'm hardly a weight lifter.

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                                                  Sherri RE: JayL May 14, 2013 05:22 PM

                                                  I used mine today to cook 6 very large artichokes. Hope that you continue to find lots of great - non-goose - uses for this wonderful piece of gear.

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                                                    rasputina RE: Sherri May 15, 2013 07:09 AM

                                                    Thanks for posting I never would have thought of that. Probably because I haven't cooked artichokes for years as you can't fit many in one pot.

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